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Around the Realm: Free Agency Day 1 Roundup

The league looks very different after a wild first day of free agency.

Welcome to Around the Realm, where we look at the top news stories from around the league. If I missed any notable stories, feel free to discuss in the comments!

New Orleans trades for Steven Adams

As part a complex, 4-team deal the Oklahoma City Thunder sent Steven Adams to the New Orleans Pelicans. Oklahoma City got back picks and players.

The trade has so many moving parts that Woj is still sorting it all out Saturday morning, but the big takeaway is that the Pelicans added a really good player. Between Adams and Zion Williamson, the Pelicans have the tools to run some devastating pick and roll sets.

What the heck is Detroit doing?

The question of the day is what in the world is happening with the Detroit Pistons. They've been active in signing players, but the players they've added have everyone scratching their heads.

So the Pistons traded for Dedmon and McGruder, stretched them both to create a $3.5 million cap hit over the next 5 years. But wait, there's more.

And the biggest addition for the Pistons was still to come, as they added Jerami Grant for 3 years, $60 million.

It's crazy that Grant took the exact same money to leave a title contender just so he could take more shots on a lousy Detroit team for three years.

Denver fills the Grant void

But the Nuggets didn't waste any time replacing Grant, adding JaMychal Green. Green should fit nicely into the role Grant played for the Nuggets, and at a lower cost.

Christian Wood is a Houston Rocket

One of the more interesting names in the market was Christian Wood. Part of what makes Detroit's spending spree so strange is that they spent so much money but still let Wood leave.

In a destination nobody saw coming, Wood will join the Rockets via sign and trade.

The Wood addition puts Houston back into the luxury tax, at least until they trade Harden and/or Westbrook.

Shooters got paid

The two biggest shooters on the market were Joe Harris and Davis Bertans. Both of them earned big paydays to stay with their current teams.

The Bertans deal seems like a good value to me. The Harris deal seems like an overpay even though I like Harris as a player. Of course, Harris' deal is about $20 million less over the 4 years than what Buddy Hield is getting for the next four years.

The Lakers added depth

The Lakers added Montrezl Harrell and Wes Matthews to bolster their attempt at a title repeat.

A lot of people were shocked at how little Harrell got paid, but I think we'll see more notable names sign for the MLE over the coming days. The Knicks and Hawks are the only teams with notable cap space, and they can't sign everyone. Any big names that want to join contenders are likely to be on the MLE.

Where will Gordon Hayward land?

Right now the smart money seems to be some sort of sign and trade where Hayward ends up in Indiana, but there's still plenty of time for Danny Ainge to overplay his hand, ask for too much, and end up with nothing. The Knicks continue to be in the hunt.

The Hawks sign Gallo

The Hawks are looking for two or three big signings, and their first one is Danilo Gallinari.

The Hawks have also been reported as interested in Rajon Rondo and Bogdan Bogdanovic.

The Clippers spent big on Marcus Morris

The Clippers lost Montrezl Harrell for the MLE, but spent big to keep Marcus Morris.

John Wall wants a trade, but does anyone want John Wall?

In an absolutely wild move, John Wall has asked for a trade.

As Tom Haberstroh notes, this is an astounding request given Wall's contract and injuries.

Day 2 story lines

As we enter Day 2, Bogdan Bogdanovic remains one of the bigger names on the market. It bodes well for the Kings that he didn't immediately sign an offer sheet. Once an offer sheet is signed, the Kings will only have the option to match or let him walk. The best case for the Kings is to work out a sign and trade to get something in return.

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HongKongKingsFan
13 days ago

Said it in the free agency thread, and say is again here.

Dedmon being waive-and-stretch just shown how bad his contract is, and how bad this sign is, and how the money is being wasted, by Divac……..

p.s. I hope we should target some UFA like Alen Len, Bazemore and Kris Dunn…….

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago

Kings definitely need a legit C. I’m just worried about what it is going to cost when someone like Plumlee gets $9M.

Dirkula
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Would’ve loved to get Steven Adams. He’s only 27 and I e always been a Stan for him

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago
Reply to  Dirkula

I’m kind of hoping for Nerlens Noel on the cheap right now.

HongKongKingsFan
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

we got Holmes, why should we try to grab Noel…..

we need some BIGBODY

SirPatricio
12 days ago

you mean tristan? nah

Dirkula
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

That would be sweet, he would fit in nicely

Dirkula
12 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Nerlans just signed with the Knicks. Shit

RobHessing
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Inexpensive bench big. You’ve got Bagley and Holmes to pair with Bjelica and Barnes. The roster as currently constructed is one to play smaller. An Alex Len type would fit the bill, but for me the most important component is to keep the rate low and the term lower.

Dirkula
13 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

I was pleasantly surprised by Alex’s play and fit last year. Would be great to retain him, but I haven’t read anything about the teams interest to retain him. I love that McNair keeps things close to the vest

HongKongKingsFan
13 days ago
Reply to  Dirkula

McNair keeps things close to the vest, then who leaks the rumors that the FO is interested in Whiteside ?

RobHessing
13 days ago

Whiteside’s agent?

SirPatricio
13 days ago

please not whiteside. dude’s only about himself, he will only present problems in the locker room. i’d rather have len

12 days ago

Hassan Blackside, Whiteside’s evil twin with a goatee from another dimension.

RAP87
13 days ago
Reply to  Dirkula

Wouldn’t be surprised if we re-signed Len to the minimum. Much better option than targeting Whiteside IMO.

kings4ever
12 days ago
Reply to  Dirkula

Yes I liked what Alex Len brought to our team. He set high picks that really helped our guards and provided nice rim protection and rebounding.

Kosta
13 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

I’ll play center for $100 for the whole season.

RobHessing
13 days ago
Reply to  Kosta

Don’t do it – Walton will ruin your value.

MauricePWhippoorwill
13 days ago

Willie on a vet minimum!

Dirkula
13 days ago

Ooph!

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02kingsfan
13 days ago

I wonder how Dedmon turned into a deadman after signing with the kings. I remembered we all loved that deal when it first came out then it totally clasped since

ArcoThunder
12 days ago
Reply to  02kingsfan

Dedmon is a weird one. Went from a great player in Atlanta that litterally any team would love to have in their rotation to basically out of the league in 12 months. Super weird.

cloudyeyes
12 days ago
Reply to  02kingsfan

He played hard his contract year, got paid and went on vacation.

ajonez81
12 days ago
Reply to  cloudyeyes

Playing well on a bad team means very little sometimes…

jwalker1395
12 days ago

My feeling is to match pretty much any offer for Bogi because he’s better than Buddy and will have a cheaper price tag and more demand in the market. Him working with Fox and Hali is a really terrific set of guards. Versatility which gives you options on the floor and in the FO if you wanna trade Bogi later. But honestly – just trade Buddy. He doesn’t want to be here, and he’s only gonna take minutes from younger guys who have a chance of becoming better players if given the time. Long term you have to think Fox and Hali are the 1-2. That leaves the question of the frontcourt. Forwards is probably our weak spot but Barnes is probs not going anywhere and I don’t mind that as he’s a steady force on the floor and locker room as well as a terrific guy. Which means you need to decide if Bagley is gonna be the 4 or 5 long-term. Either way, you need to find him a frontcourt partner who will provide rim protection and spacing. Enter Myles Turner, whom I think we should flip Holmes, Buddy and picks for. They are the only assets who are not long-term high-production guys at their positions and will only take minutes away from whoever may one day potentially fill that role. Seeing Holmes go would hurt, but it’s a strong offer for the Pacers. Bagley-Turner complement each other really well, where Bagley can fall back into backup 5 if he flops. You end up with a final roster like in the image below. Giving lots of young guys on cheap contracts with upside the ability to develop while giving more clarity on the long-term expectation of the roster with a talented, inexpensive young core of Fox-Hali-Bagley-Turner. Only really leaves the 3 (and maybe 4) spot left to be figured out and will have Barnes there until we do. I’d love watching a team like this run.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago

I hate to say it, but the Lakers are absolutely killing it this offseason. They replaced Rondo, Green and Pope with Harrell, Schroder and Mathews.

Dirkula
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Agreed, and I’m really concerned they’re gonna get Bogi too

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago
Reply to  Dirkula

I don’t think they can now with the addition of Harrell and Mathews.

Dirkula
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

I’ve read they’re exploring a S&T for either KCP or Kuzma… Have to admit, I don’t know much about either of them as I purposefully choose to ignore anything and everything Laker related

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago
Reply to  Dirkula

KCP opted out of his deal. The only thing I see is Kuzma and McGee, but I don’t think that even works anymore.

Timmy_13
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Oh God no.

King4life
13 days ago

I’m really disappointed in the decisions made by Detroit. I was hoping Troy Weaver would help bring them back to relevance but my first impression of him isn’t filled with hope.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago

Dunn is now gone. I actually don’t think the Kings need a backup PG anymore with Hali now in the fold. Unless they move Joseph what is the point?

HongKongKingsFan
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

It is a definite steal by Hawks……

After the sign by the Hawks, in case they don’t have cap left, I hope we can work out a “sign and trade” 
and try to get Cam Reddish from the Hawks

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago

They more they fill up their cap space, the more likely a sign and trade can happen for assets in return. Kings just need to sit tight and let things play out.

RobHessing
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Question: The Hawks decide that Capela and his salary do not fit their plans moving forward. The Hawks offer a take it or leave it S&T for Bogi. Do you take it, or match on Bogi (for grins let’s say Bogi’s offer is 4/$76m, a 16, 18, 20, 22 contract)?

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

Capela is a tough one for me. He is a bit redundant with Holmes. If you have a trade for Holmes for a ball handling wing (doubtful) I’d say sure.

ScottyPop
13 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

I like Capela, so I’d do it.

RAP87
13 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

I would love if the Kings get Capela but I agree is a bit redundant with Holmes in the lineup. Not sure if the money works but if they can expand the trade to something like Bogi + Holmes for Capela and Huerter I’ll take that deal without question.

Last edited 13 days ago by RAP87
SirPatricio
13 days ago
Reply to  RAP87

capela, huerter, and hunter

MichaelMack
12 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

I think taking Capela for Bogi would be an obvious move. Holmes has only one more year on his contract, and is two years older, and in his best season last year was still not quite as good as Capela. Unless McNair has another target that he is waiting on, this seems like a great move. Capela is an excellent rebounder, a humongous weakness for the Kings. The Kings could use Holmes as an excellent back up and injury insurance this year, and likely have an easy time flipping him before the trade deadline to whatever team needs a big man for the post season or playoff push. What do you think Rob?

Kingsguru21
12 days ago
Reply to  MichaelMack

I prefer John Collins to Capela personally. But I think getting back a talented player in a Bogi S&T is an absolute must for MM & Co.

RobHessing
12 days ago
Reply to  MichaelMack

I don’t love the idea of taking on any contract right now. For me it would come down to the Bogi offer. I match three year up to $54m, but I would only match a four year at $64m or less, as I would prefer Capela and his 3/$51m at that point. As we have previously discussed, it’s all about the better value asset.

12 days ago
Reply to  MichaelMack

If that happens then we’re going to have a lineup of:

Fox
Haliburton
Barnes
Bjelica
Capela

Chef
12 days ago

Where is Buddy?

9sac8
12 days ago

Cam AND Huerter!!!

RobHessing
13 days ago

Wall asking for a trade is the ultimate in hubris. Dude has made somewhere in the neighborhood of $75m while not logging a minute on the floor and now wants out. The Wiz gave him the monster contract based on potential, not results up to that point, and this is their reward. A cautionary tale.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

Wall for Westbrook = double nut punch. Just make it happen.

MichaelMack
12 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

I do think a Westbrook to Detroit, Griffin to Washington, Ball to Houston three way trade would be delightful if for nothing other than the drama.

Kosta
12 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

Whoever is getting Wall better hope they can get Mexico to pay for it.

Last edited 12 days ago by Kosta
12 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

I see Wall staying and Beal leaving.

TheBufferZone
13 days ago

Disagree. I think the best case in terms of Bogdanovic is to match an offer for Bogi & then trade Buddy.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago
Reply to  TheBufferZone

I’m in that boat as well. Just match Bogi’s offer not matter what it is. He is going to be cheaper than Buddy. Keep the asset and figure things out later. If people are paying a high price for shooters like Harris and Bertans, there is going to be a nice market for Buddy.

RobHessing
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

My big concern there is handing Walton Bogi, Hield & Reese, and then watching him stunt Reese’s growth and/or Hield’s remaining value.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

Agreed, that is why I’d look to move Buddy ASAP. I’d prefer to roll with Fox, Hali, and Bogi. I’d even like to see all three of them on the court at the same time for parts of the game.

RobHessing
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Yeah, I think that Hield has the harder skill to replace (absolute elite volume deep shooting), but Walton’s system is just so wrong for him. Not sure what kind of deal can be had, but if I could swing Hield for Capela and one of their young wings while retaining Bogi, I’d sure consider it.

RAP87
13 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

It might change now with Gentry on board. I expect him to be the offensive coordinator and would definitely use Hield’s skillset correctly just like how Joerger used him a couple of seasons ago.

But I agree if we can somehow flip Buddy instead of Bogi then I’m all for it. Buddy might be the better shooter but Bogi impacts the game more than just 3 point shooting. I hope that is what Mcnair is trying to do and is canvassing the league for a Buddy trade. Might be the reason why Bogi hasn’t signed any offer sheet yet even with the reports that he would sign with the Hawks the moment free agency starts. Could be he is giving Mcnair more time to find a trade partner for Buddy and Bogi re-signs with the Kings.

SMF-PDXConnection
13 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

I think we’re on the same page, but it’s ridiculous to me that anything should be done based on Walton’s “system.” Talent is a lot harder to come by than coaching.

RobHessing
13 days ago

Amen, brother. The money saved by not firing Walton is more than flushed via Hield’s diminished value.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

Yup, I’d have no problem hanging onto Buddy if Walton was booted. Maybe that is McNair’s plan come deadline. Just ride out Walton for a bit then promote Gentry. Keep Buddy and have Gentry use him correctly.

richie88
12 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

I assume that Gentry will run the offense for the entire season.

ForKingsandCountry
12 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

My biggest fear is that Walton’s system is wrong for every human who plays basketball. Seriously the ridiculous drop off in efficiency for players across two teams now that he has coached is incredible. Now, I think he probably gets fired either during the season or at the end of the season when he’s successfully guided the tank off a cliff but I do worry about him doing any lasting damage to Fox and Haliburton. I just think he’s a terrible coach.

Kosta
12 days ago

I read that Haliburton makes everyone around him better.

….which might offset the fact that Walton makes everyone around him worse.

ForKingsandCountry
12 days ago
Reply to  Kosta

Fingers crossed.

12 days ago

I heard the ladies love Walton’s system.

MichaelMack
12 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

With Tyrese on board, I do think that changes the calculation of who is more value to the Kings. Buddy is a much better shooter than Bogi, as well as more durable,, and with Tyrese to handle back up point guard and a secondary ball handler, I think he usurps a great deal of Bogi’s utility. I think frustration with how Heild has played under Walton has inflated Bogi’s contribution a bit. He is still a bit inconsistent, and in my mind, has a fair share of moments of over dribbling and forcing plays.

Kingsguru21
12 days ago
Reply to  MichaelMack

So much this. I couldn’t think of the right way to say it.

CoreyBrewersD
12 days ago
Reply to  MichaelMack

You make some good points, but I think the combination of Bogis smaller contract, and his court awareness , more than makes up for Buddy’s shooting edge. I cannot speak to injuries.

12 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

We had a better coach two seasons ago.

AmateurNerd
12 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

Walton’s “system.” Quotation marks are necessary here.

That said, I totally agree. Bogi > Buddy.

SirPatricio
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

yes. if only things are okay with bogi and the team, a lineup featuring him, hali, and fox will be so fun to watch. and yeah add giles to that welp not going to happen now but, the playmaking between those four guys will remind everyone of the early 00’s kings

RAP87
13 days ago
Reply to  SirPatricio

Fox, Hali, Bogi, Bjelly and Giles.. sheesh! Imagine the ball movement, cutting and playmaking with those 5 on the court.

Kosta
12 days ago
Reply to  RAP87

Nemenja, too!

-EDIT– d’OH! I see you wrote Bjelly. My bad!

Last edited 12 days ago by Kosta
Ialmostmissthemaloofs
12 days ago
Reply to  RAP87

Giles is gone per Carmichael Dave.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago

Good run down of who is left, posted last night. Obviously Dunn, AD, and Harkless are off the table.

Last edited 13 days ago by Adamsite
RobHessing
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Bring Back Bismack…and Beno!

Kosta
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

They left off:

shhh!
Harry Giles

Maybe no other teams will notice??

kings4ever
12 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Wow not much left.

SirPatricio
13 days ago

bringing bazemore back, s and t bogi with the hawks, and trading buddy. bogi and james for capela, huerter, and a 21 first. is that too much?

kings4ever
12 days ago
Reply to  SirPatricio

Bazemore is 35-40% FG shooter. And he thinks he’s a star level offensive player. You cannot win with guys like that. I dont care that he is high energy and good on defense, which he is.

Jefferies is the better player who does not take as many bad shots. I would much rather have Jefferies than Baze and looks like our new GM feels the same.

SirPatricio
12 days ago
Reply to  kings4ever

yes baze does have that tendency of seeing himself as a star but with the rise of talented big wings in the nba (lbj, luka, kawhi, freak) it’s a nice insurance to have hard nosed wing defenders.

with baze, jeffries, woodard, barnes, brewer we have guys who are willing and can actually play defense on those stars.

FoxForceFive
13 days ago

Would the best outcome for the Kings be that Bogi is unable to find the deal he wants, so he signs the QO, and then Sacramento can trade him sometime during the season for a better return than they might have to take in a S&T?

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago
Reply to  FoxForceFive

That’s a possibility. I think his QO is around $10M, but then he is a UFA next summer. You might be able to flip him to a contender later in the season.

RobHessing
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Could happen, but is so rare for a guy to reject $50m & take a one year deal. Noel did it. Can’t think of anyone else at the moment.

Bogi could get Bonzi’d.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

More money next summer, but also more talent in the free agency pool. It would definitely be a risk. Bogi’s QO is also quite high. I think Noel’s was only around $3-4M.

RobHessing
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

The injury risk factor, too. Bogi’s not young for an NBA player.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

Very true. He’d be leaving a lot on the table.

nonstripedzebra
13 days ago
Reply to  FoxForceFive

Possible but as far as the Bucks debacle the main culprit I can suss out is Bogi’s agent both on precedent and for the amount to gain. If thats the case, It leads me to think he must have some assurance of an offer sheet considerably higher than what the Bucks were suggesting. If thats the case the QO would look horrible considering the previous rejection and renege of the MIL trade. Dont see that likely, I suspect he is aware of suitors.

Last edited 13 days ago by nonstripedzebra
RAP87
13 days ago
Reply to  FoxForceFive

Correct me if I’m wrong but if Bogi signs the QO then that means we can’t trade him. So basically that means he would definitely walk at the end of the year and we get nothing in return.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago
Reply to  RAP87

I believe he can be traded, but I could be wrong. Maybe you are thinking about if the Kings match his offer from another team? If they do that, he has a no-trade clause for one year.

FoxForceFive
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

From what I can find online, if he signs the QO, then he can veto trades during the year. But if the writing is on the wall, and the player has one foot out of the door, you’d think he’d be open to being traded (so long as it provided the playing time and competitiveness, I suppose).

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago
Reply to  FoxForceFive

FWIW, I think there is a very small chance he takes the QO.

Kingsguru21
12 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Just to the both of you: If Bogi signs a QO OR the Kings match an offer sheet, Bogi can veto deals for the next season in its entirety. The exact date of that ending I don’t know as I don’t know when the season ends yet.

But Bogi, if he remains on the Kings, will certainly have veto power over deals.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago

Interesting.

RobHessing
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

I think that teams don’t want to be in 72 hr. limbo while the UFAs dry up. They are going after the UFAs first (or trading), and the RFAs will be left dealing with the teams with remaining cap space or plausible S&Ts…or re-signing with their teams.

nonstripedzebra
13 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

Exactly my view. And the real threats for restricted assets most notably ATL still have competitive room, or can get it, while filling holes that they circled needed addressing.

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Kingsguru21
12 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

Sounds exactly right, Yogi.

RORDOG
13 days ago

I’m curious to see how/if the Kings use the MLE. There’s not really a ton of guys out there worth signing for more than some lessor exceptions at their disposal.

Saric/Whiteside, are the two I see in this list that should probably make more than the bi-annual that might have interest in coming here. Saric would be interesting I guess. He and Parker would at least give the bench a decent amount of scoring and playmaking.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago
Reply to  RORDOG

Aaron Baynes, maybe?

RORDOG
12 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

I just don’t see the point. If he were to sign for the minimum, then that would be fine. Otherwise, it just seems kind of unnecessary from a long-term perspective.

nonstripedzebra
13 days ago

Real rough look, but with Gallinari and Dunn, Hawks still have enough for the rumored around 18 per for Bogdan I think. I understand the signings help in thinking they might sign and trade but I still think they have the room upon quick glance. And having addressed the other needs prior to having to be cap locked while the Kings deliberate, there is arguably even less incentive to sign and trade as they have made signings to help prior to waiting on the Kings verdict.

I just hope McNair is able to find something workable for Buddy, but nothing is remotely being rumored. I think its going to be very hard to find a deal. And that leads to tough choices for our new GM upon what think is a likely offer sheet over sign and trade

aplumley
12 days ago

Now that Rajon has signed with Atl. That means they have about $11M. No way the Kings don’t match that.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago

That seems like a steep price for DJ.

ForKingsandCountry
12 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Every time I DJ signs a deal I feel like it’s steep but then I watch him eviscerate some higher seeded Eastern conference team in the game one of the playoffs and I’m left thinking, is this what this dude looks like all the time in Orlando?

02kingsfan
13 days ago

Has Gallinari played any meaningful minutes for any teams he has played for so far in his career? Feel like this dude is always hurt and never contribute when his teams needed him the most

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago
Reply to  02kingsfan

He just had a great year in OKC, and one in LA before that.

MichaelMack
12 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

He is a really effective player, its sad he has lost so much time due to injury. I just have a tough time figuring out how he guards wings for ATL. He has lost some mobility, and at his age, seems like on the precipice of a steeper decline defensively. Seems more suited to a stretch 4, especially with ATL having two defensive minded centers with Capela and their draft pick.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago

That’s big.

nonstripedzebra
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Players just generally are getting bigger deals than I expected. I guess details might elaborate on contingencies etc, and make agreements actually more reasonable than what appears on first glance. Still, worse players than Bogi are getting handsome deals. VanVleet is not one of those but still. Teams are acting eager or that they are a signing or two away from a jump. I expect many to be sorely disappointed.

RobHessing
13 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

I am envious of Toronto’s FO. Losing Kawhi would cripple most teams.

Kosta
13 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

They hired Masai around the same time we hired…(Sigh).

And now look where both teams are.

FoxForceFive
12 days ago
Reply to  Kosta

It just reminds me that the last game played at G1C was against the Raptors.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
13 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

True, but I think their window is closed. Gasol and Ibaka are likely gone and Lowry is getting long in the tooth.

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Nostradumbass 14
12 days ago

WTF? Did not see that one coming.

Tunel_21
12 days ago