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Season Review: Terence Davis

Davis' on court production is muddled by his off court concerns.

The Sacramento Kings acquired Terence Davis from the Toronto Raptors at the trade deadline for nothing more than a second round pick. In Sacramento, Davis averaged 11.1 points, 3.3 rebounds, 1.7 assists, and 1 steal per game. When Davis entered games he brought energy and hustle and excitement. For a 23-year-old shooting guard, for a player so instantly productive, a second round pick seems like a pittance. So why haven't we written a single article dedicated to Terence Davis in the time he's been with the Sacramento Kings?

Because it was no secret that Davis was a talented basketball player. The reason Monte McNair was able to acquire a young player with Davis' talent has nothing to do with his on court abilities and everything to do with his off court question marks.

In October of 2020, Davis was brought up on seven different charges related to domestic violence accusations. Davis allegedly slapped his girlfriend, broke her phone, and in the process of the scuffle allegedly knocked over her son.

In February Davis reached an agreement in which 5 of the seven charges were dropped, with the remaining two charges set to drop if Davis paid a fine and remained out of trouble for a year.

We obviously will never know the full truth of what happened between Davis and the alleged victim and her child. But these events cast a cloud over Davis.

Davis also faced scrutiny from the Raptors and the NBA for arriving to a game wearing a mask with a hole cut in it. Davis publicly questioned the legitimacy of Covid-19, which as of this writing has killed 592,000 Americans and 3.7 million people worldwide.

Terence Davis is a very talented basketball player. But there's a reason the Toronto Raptors were willing to give up on a talented young player for so little. I can't count the number of times this season I watched him play and thought "wow, I wish Davis didn't have so many off court reasons for me not to like him", because if it wasn't for those off court issues Davis would be a true fan favorite.  I know some fans won't care about domestic violence accusations, or will dismiss them as something that he was never convicted of, and I know some fans won't care if Davis took Covid seriously. But I and many others do.

Davis enters free agency this summer as a restricted free agent, assuming the Kings tender a $1.87 million qualifying offer. The Kings will likely tender that offer, allowing them the right to match any contract Davis is offered. That doesn't necessarily mean Davis will return to Sacramento, as the Kings could decline to match an offer, or they could end up rescinding the QO if they no longer wanted to retain Davis' rights. Extending the initial QO is likely a formality, regardless of Davis' off-court concerns.

For what it's worth, Davis stayed out of trouble and out of the spotlight in Sacramento. Perhaps he's reformed and learned lessons from his past mistakes. I have no idea.

I truly, truly wish I could simply gush over Davis' on-court production, because he was a very fun player to watch. Davis can score from all over the floor, has athletic finishes, seemed engaged on defense, and was a productive player in a variety of ways. But I could never bring myself to fully set aside those other issues, and they clouded any enjoyment I could have found from his play.

Normally I'd implore the front office to retain a talented young player in restricted free agency, but with Davis I will feel no sense of loss if the Kings choose not to match or retain him. If the Kings do keep Davis beyond this season, I'll continue to have reservations about rooting for him, but will be hoping that he's moved beyond the mistakes of his past.

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TheLoKey1
June 4, 2021 1:32 pm

Kings definitely need to resign him. He is a fantastic SG sub with a nice all around game (seriously, he looked like one of the better defenders on the team In addition to scoring from all over the floor) who would allow the Kings to move on from Buddy Hield.

andy_sims
June 4, 2021 1:45 pm

The charges are hardly unimportant, but a season review (basketball, presumably) that is 95% not about basketball doesn’t really belong in the series that includes other Kings players. A separate essay? Absolutely. It’s important to talk about these things.

As for the off-court stuff, if the justice system is satisfied with what Terence Davis has done since the incident, then that’s the limit of it for me from a basketball standpoint. I’m hopeful that he’s taken some classes & counseling, and has learned from it.

RobHessing
June 4, 2021 1:47 pm
Reply to  andy_sims

Meh. It’s the elephant in the room and a huge contributing factor to why he was available in the first place. I thought that Greg handled it evenly and fairly.

andy_sims
June 4, 2021 1:54 pm
Reply to  RobHessing

If I implied that I felt it was unfair in any way, then I apologize. My main idea was that in the context of a season review, the essay was beside the point. If the charges were what made Davis available, then that’s basketball-related information, and under the context of a season review, I’d like to have seen more of it.

Otis
June 4, 2021 2:00 pm
Reply to  andy_sims

if the justice system is satisfied with what Terence Davis has done since the incident

What the what? Assuming a man may have “learned his lesson” based on a justice system that gives just about zero fucks to domestic violence is asinine. He may only have learned that he needs to make sure he’s more discrete about it in the future.

Same as Luke Walton.

andy_sims
June 4, 2021 2:54 pm
Reply to  Otis

If you’re going to quote me, could you do the part where I said that I had assumed anything about it?

andy_sims
June 4, 2021 5:46 pm
Reply to  Otis

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Otis
June 5, 2021 9:13 am
Reply to  andy_sims

Ah, you were expecting me to engage in your usual “legal minutiae” back and forth. I decided to drink some wine instead.

andy_sims
June 5, 2021 2:10 pm
Reply to  Otis

I don’t think that using my own words to suggest that I said something when I hadn’t hardly qualifies as minutiae. It’s simply a lie, which you know, or you’d have quoted the part where I said it. But I didn’t.

Provable facts as “legal minutiae.” Hell of a standard you’re setting.

Otis
June 7, 2021 9:47 am
Reply to  andy_sims

It’s weird how you’re a common denominator around here for these types of complaints. Probably just coincidence.

andy_sims
June 7, 2021 12:24 pm
Reply to  Otis

If preferring accuracy sets me apart (which I don’t believe that it does), then your beef is with people who blithely accept anything that gets posted.

And more to the point, with the ones who barf it into the discussion.

Kayte_Hunter_Fan_club
June 5, 2021 4:20 pm
Reply to  Otis

Of course you’re a perfect person and this guy is scum and Kobe Bryant is a saint.

Otis
June 7, 2021 9:46 am

Oh, we’re creating arguments out of wholecloth are we?

Yes, I am a perfect person when it comes to domestic violence or menacing women and small children. As in, zero times. Honestly, I don’t even remember ever having to try hard at it, or worry about being “falsely accused”.

I didn’t say this guy is scum. And I was no Kobe Bryant fan, even when his behavior was glossed over after he passed.

Three swings and misses, you’re out.

EastCoastKingsFan
June 7, 2021 10:10 am
Reply to  Otis

Mr. Perfect over here

Otis
June 7, 2021 10:58 am

Man, you’re too good at this – I’ll bow out now.

SmallBallReject
June 4, 2021 1:46 pm

Fair take. You cannot ignore ether aspect. Can one give the QO with contract conditions about keeping out of trouble?

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
June 4, 2021 1:59 pm

His off the court issues are a definite concern and one that I worry about. Frankly, cutting a hole in his mask is enough to make me question his judgement. That being said, if McNair gave up a second rounder for him and doesn’t tender his QO, than why the hell did he trade for him? Like Greg said, it seems like a formality that they would.

Now, if TD gets a good offer from another team, will Monte match to retain him? Seems like a pretty boneheaded move to let yet another RFA walk for nothing, especially one that cost a 2nd rounder.

The logical person in me hopes McNair had the foresight and has a plan to match any offer TD may get, otherwise I fear we may be flying blind.

Otis
June 4, 2021 2:04 pm

Dunno, I wasn’t nearly as impressed with him during his stint as some others around here. The guy rated about 50th in RPM among PGs and around 70th among SGs. RAPTOR has him in Marvin Bagley territory.

With the DV baggage, I’d be just fine letting him move on.

Mark_Madsen_Stan_Account
June 4, 2021 2:34 pm

Same people who give TD a pass are the same people who go to restaurants owned by Kevin Johnson. We keep telling woman we don’t care about them every time one of these monsters face no consequences.

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Carl
June 4, 2021 2:41 pm

Which restaurants are owned by Johnson? I appreciate what he did for the Kings, but I don’t have any desire to give that guy any money.

andy_sims
June 4, 2021 2:56 pm
Reply to  Carl

I believe Fixins in Oak Park is one of them.

BeTheBall
June 5, 2021 3:24 pm

Meanwhile, we’re rooting for a team that Johnson, an alleged serial child molester, played a significant part in keeping in town, at an arena he helped get built, in a city that elected him mayor, despite it all being public knowledge. So, we’ve got that going for us…

Carl
June 4, 2021 2:47 pm

My larger concern is that the current front office, like the last one, may think a domestic violence accusation is a way to value shop for players. McNair waved the question away in defending the acquisition in a way that seemed wholly perfunctory to me.

It’s interesting – it seems like there’s a lot less tolerance for DV in the NFL, as opposed to the Kings, who keep picking these guys up and no one really says much.

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
June 4, 2021 2:56 pm
Reply to  Carl

It’s weird, right? The front office seems perfectly keyed in on other hot button issues and seem to take the lead to speak up about other social justice problems, but when it comes to DV they are silent. Strange.

andy_sims
June 4, 2021 2:58 pm
Reply to  Carl

Your thoughts as to McNair’s mindset in bargain shopping in the manner described make for a fascinating premise in a world where a single example constitutes a pattern.

RobHessing
June 4, 2021 3:13 pm
Reply to  andy_sims

Perhaps as it pertains to McNair, but we have seen this organization under Ranadive’s ownership bring in Ty Lawson, bring back Matt Barnes, and hire Luke Walton with little-to-no due diligence. So perhaps less of a pattern in the micro under McNair, but a less than glowing performance under Vivek’s tenure.

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
June 4, 2021 3:26 pm
Reply to  RobHessing

This, the pattern has been established for years, regardless of who sits in the GM’s chair.

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Carl
June 4, 2021 7:21 pm
Reply to  andy_sims

You’re either misinterpreting what I said or just flat out making stuff up. I said nothing about a pattern. I expressed a concern about something that may be happening. I’m not the problem here.

AnybodyButBagley
June 4, 2021 3:16 pm

He is a legitimate NBA player. The Kings have a poor record of signing non NBA caliber players.

Simply pursuing him and signing him based on his basketball abilities is progress for this organization.

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
June 4, 2021 3:29 pm

He hasn’t been signed yet, just traded for a second round pick. This summer will tell us McNair’s true intentions for TD.

Retaining him on the cheap or matching RFA offers tells me TD is part of McNair’s plan, which I can behind.

Letting him walk for nothing or not matching RFA offers tells me McNair doesn’t know what he is doing.

Yes, it’s that black and white for me.

AnybodyButBagley
June 4, 2021 10:24 pm
Reply to  Adamsite

We agree…pursuing him and signing him based on his basketball abilities is progress for this organization.

eddie41
June 4, 2021 3:25 pm

Broke a telephone?! Don’t tell me it was an iPhone. No wait, I bet it was a Samsung. Actually, maybe it’s best we don’t know, because if I learn that it was one of those beloved old Nokia cheapies, or, worse yet, a flip phone. Tell me no more!

RobHessing
June 4, 2021 3:28 pm
Reply to  eddie41

Now sub in your wife or daughter for the woman assailed by Davis, all 6-4, 200 lbs. of him. Is this still humorous to you?

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
June 4, 2021 3:31 pm
Reply to  RobHessing

Seriously. If some bigger and stronger dude assaulted my daughter, I just might be on the cover of the Bee tomorrow for all the wrong reasons.

eddie41
June 4, 2021 4:11 pm
Reply to  RobHessing

I honestly have no information about the incident other than what this article says. Apparently it has been resolved and TD has probably suffered a lot through it all, and he even got a bit teary eyed when thanking Sacramento for accepting him and helping him move on from whatever happened in the past.

However, out of nowhere, this article has resurrected a fact which had been overlooked. Something concerning a broken cell phone. It’s not a laughing matter at all because the crime sabotage against cell phones has no statute of limitations. Moreover, as a Kings fan, I have extra empathy for the little guys like Nokia. Now please don’t get me wrong. That’s not to say I have ill will against the market leaders, and I was even happy for the Lakers when they won the championship last year, even though they are Kings rivals. Therefore if it was an iPhone… well … I’d rather not know.

AmateurNerd
June 5, 2021 8:01 am
Reply to  eddie41

You’re a bad person.

Kayte_Hunter_Fan_club
June 5, 2021 4:24 pm
Reply to  RobHessing

Some how you seem to have facts that no one else has. When will Kobe Bryant’s banner comes down. The double standards are amazing.

RobHessing
June 6, 2021 8:42 am

Agreed as it pertains to Bryant. The excuses that are made to justify or accept or minimize the demeaning of women is an absolute travesty.

And I have the exact same information as everyone else around here. If you feel that Davis deserves a pass for his actions, more power to you. I don’t.

Otis
June 7, 2021 9:48 am

This is some grade school-level debate nonsense.

andy_sims
June 4, 2021 3:42 pm
Reply to  eddie41

It’s interesting that my comments have been taken in the same spirit as Eddie’s, although they have no commonality.

Please read them again if you think that they are intended in the same spirit as this trash.

KingOfTheMonsters
June 4, 2021 3:54 pm

I don’t think she is an “alleged victim.” I think she is a victim, as is her kid. Domestic violence in front of a kid is traumatizing (and a crime); you don’t even need to knock the kid over.
Since they seemed to have had court hearings and reached a plea deal, I’m betting he had to acknowledge his role in the incident. (I hope he has.) I have not read the court documents, so maybe he hasn’t.
I’m not criticizing the writer. I am just clarifying. Maybe you are giving him the benefit of the doubt, but I think you could delete “alleged.”

As for COVID-19, the messaging on that has been warped because it was so politicized. Don’t buy mask; buy a mask. Masks protect you; no, they only protect others from you if you have the virus. All masks are good; no, only certain types. The lab leak idea is a whacko conspiracy theory; no, it’s the most likely reality. People have been punished for saying stuff that is now proven true. I’ve been in states where they thought I was a freak for wearing a mask. I’ve seen people damn near stoned to death for not wearing a mask. I was not impressed by the behavior of any of these people. I’m so fucking sick of it all (especially the sanctified ones), I don’t blame anyone for rebelling against the rules.

As for his play, he looked good when I watched, which was rarely. He brought a lot of energy. Maybe it is all just selfish numbers. Maybe he’s easily replaceable?

As for his character, I’m not thrilled. The domestic violence charges do not sit well with me. I’m sick of bad character dudes. Despite Boogie’s abilities, he was a cancer that held back the team and the development of his fellow teammates. I sick of that shit.

I follow other teams much more than the Kings these days, and when I see the good chemistry between teammates show itself on the court, you can tell it propels the team. I wouldn’t even want Lebron on this team because he’s a total ass and a thug.

Good character is good for a team.

Last note: In the discussions about domestic violence how it taints a team, I agree. But I have to ask myself, if that’s the case, why the hell am I even watching the NBA. The way the league and marquee players suck up to China is unforgiveable. If you don’t want go to Kevin Johnson’s restaurant because you don’t want to support him, how can you justify supporting the NBA? I don’t want to say this from a high horse. I ask myself the same question almost every time I watch a game.

Otis
June 4, 2021 4:10 pm

If sucking up to China is a deal breaker for doing business with a company, you’d spend most of your time trying to figure out who’s left to buy stuff from.

I think keeping a DV offender on your roster is a much easier situation to rectify.

KingOfTheMonsters
June 8, 2021 2:28 pm
Reply to  Otis

I see where starting at a DV case and ending in Beijing could be viewed as a big jump.
Ultimately we are talking about bad behavior. Beijing towers over the Kings’ 6’4″ guard in that regard.
The NBA has tied itself to China for the bottom line.
Why turn a blind eye to what most would agree is evil, especially today, when calls for justice are ringing in our ears?
For the past year, there’s been a lot of talk about atoning for the nation’s sins of the past. There is debate on why people of today must make up for crimes committed before their ancestors set foot on this continent.
Right now, we are, whether we admit it or not, participating in some grisly crimes ourselves.
China does not condone democracy or free debate and has prisons teeming with political prisoners.
China makes money off of slave labor. China harvests organs from its Uighur population to sell on a global market.
There’s not a century of distance between us and these crimes, and we are complicit. Why not face up to something that is happening today? Why not take responsibility and put a stop to it?
I don’t see that as ridiculous.
What is ridiculous?
When Daryl Morey criticizes the treatment of Hong Kong protestors, Lebron James, the face of the NBA, a self-proclaimed hero for justice, stands up for … China? Lebron knows who pays the bills.

True, China’s tentacles are everywhere. We’ve been sending essential industries over there for decades.
But just because that is the case now doesn’t mean we should accept the status quo as acceptable an unchangeable.
Slavery was acceptable by many in the 1860s, and I’m sure someone probably argued, “but if we free the slaves, the cost of clothing is going to skyrocket.”
I’d hate to die on that hill.

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
June 4, 2021 4:35 pm

Spinning a DV issue of a single player into a league wide guilt in dealing with China is quite the whataboutism.

Oh, and regards to this:

I don’t blame anyone for rebelling against the rules.

You cool if I drive impaired?

I’d like to finish, I lost someone to COVID, so I’m salty when we go there.

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EastCoastKingsFan
June 7, 2021 10:16 am
Reply to  Adamsite

Boo freaking hoo

KingOfTheMonsters
June 8, 2021 1:59 pm
Reply to  Adamsite

I’m sorry for your loss.

I do not equate my statement with driving impaired, an overt act that puts people at risk.
I think there has been plenty of distortion and uncertainty on best courses of action in this pandemic. We can’t be sure if the mask he was wearing could have offered protection if he had worn it correctly. There has been mixed messages from the beginning, and now we find there was evidence early on as to the questionable effectiveness of masks. Plus, the downsides of mask were always downplayed.
Masks, to me, are a red herring when labelling someone a villain.
In the past year, people have been unfairly demonized and have been censored and forced in to destitution in some cases. The situation has been unnecessarily politicized by our media. Lockdowns and isolation have caused their share of damage, especially to children who could have returned to many schools months earlier than they did. All this is still ignored.
This is why some rebellious behavior doesn’t bug me.

However, I bet we agree on more than we disagree.
In retrospect, I think Davis’ antics were less rebellion than him just being an elitist ass.
Considering his position in society and wealth, a position of privilege, he could have opted to stay home, ignore the team’s standards, not wear a mask to his delight, and he’d be just fine.
I’m betting you and I didn’t have such privilege. This bugs me more than anything.
I wonder if that factored in to his DV case? He’s an athlete in an elite league. Many of his colleagues get away with horrible behavior. Why not him?
That’s why I agree, as you do, that character should matter.
In the end, COVID should be one more reason to be pissed at China.

BeTheBall
June 5, 2021 3:43 pm

You might feel he did it, but it hasn’t been proven & all charges were either dropped or dismissed. Removing alleged could get them into some shit.

Minja25
June 6, 2021 11:47 am

I’m just watching from the peanut gallery but I’m finding it amusing how all the sudden people’s moral convictions changed on a dime once you brought up China.

BeTheBall
June 6, 2021 6:09 pm
Reply to  Minja25

Meh, us criticizing China is a textbook case of the pot calling the kettle black. It’s a bit comical to watch, really.

Minja25
June 6, 2021 7:20 pm
Reply to  BeTheBall

Why is it comical? We, as in the people having this discussion, are not the ones committing genocide. It goes back to the Lebron James argument. The man has very strong social justice convictions except for when it comes to the people that line his pockets. In that instance, genocide is apparently not important enough to speak out about.

I say call a spade a spade, no matter what it’s about. People can bring up “whataboutism” all they want but it’s just a way to deflect from hypocrisy.

BeTheBall
June 7, 2021 7:45 am
Reply to  Minja25

Yes, hypocrisy. Like condemning China’s human rights abuses while telling people to just relax when it comes to setting up concentration camps at the border, then selling the children, and forcefully sterilizing women in those camps.

Or were you using “hypocrisy” in an ironic way?

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Minja25
June 7, 2021 7:28 pm
Reply to  BeTheBall

If the US was selling children and forcefully steriilzing women, I would condemn that too. I’m not sure if that’s true or not and neither do you but bad things are bad and should be condemned…like I already said.

I’m not really what this angle is that you’re coming at with me but it’s certainly got nothing to do with my statements. It’s as if you have a bone to pick with the American government and you’re pretending like I’m the American government.

My point is it’s pretty silly to have a moral conviction about domestic abuse and then sweep things like China’s genocide under the rug or minimize it because you can think of other bad things in this world. It’s a large part of the NBA. A lot larger than Terence Davis, that’s for sure.

BeTheBall
June 8, 2021 2:01 pm
Reply to  Minja25

LOL. You probably could have made your point a bit more quickly about having displeasure in athletes (like LeBron) taking up specific causes by just using the “shut up and dribble” trope.

KingOfTheMonsters
June 8, 2021 2:40 pm
Reply to  BeTheBall

Because I did tell people to relax on the “concentration camps” didn’t I?
Didn’t I?
Didn’t I?

KingOfTheMonsters
June 8, 2021 3:07 pm
Reply to  BeTheBall

So what are you studying at Evergreen University?

KingOfTheMonsters
June 8, 2021 2:38 pm
Reply to  BeTheBall

Wow, bruh, stuck in Binaryland, are we? You should get out more.
Criticizing China = Supporting U.S. authoritarianism, colonialism, hegemony, etc., etc.
Am I forgetting anything?
These things, of course, are mutually exclusive.
Oh, wait, I just remembered another: criticizing the Chinese government = hating Chinese Americans.
You know me so well.

“I was looking at the black and white world.
It seemed so exciting.”

KingOfTheMonsters
June 8, 2021 2:31 pm
Reply to  Minja25

Surprised me too. Didn’t realize I was poking a bear.
I guess some people really dig Xi Jinping.

Mephariel
June 7, 2021 10:24 pm

The mask critique is one of the dumbest I seen. Situation changes and policies evolved over time. That is what science is about. N95s are the best, but they are in short supply so cloth masks are recommended. No one said leaking from a lab is likely reality. Just speculations from a bunch of people. If you rebelled against the rules because of evolving policy, you are pretty dumb in the first place.

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KingOfTheMonsters
June 8, 2021 2:47 pm
Reply to  Mephariel

The efficacy of cloth masks has been in doubt for quite some time (Fauci’s own words).
There was a high probability of a lab leak early on (Fauci’s own words) but it was “debunked” to preserve funding and keep the heat off of those who funded the research, as well as for political reasons.
This is quite apparent now.
The negative effects of lockdowns and isolation has been and is still overlooked.
The elite did not suffer like the majority.
People have plenty of reasons to be upset.
To blindly follow is dumb.

Rosevillain
June 4, 2021 8:24 pm

Please, Vivek, just let Monte call Stotts’ agent tonight. Let us have a real coach next year.

andy_sims
June 7, 2021 12:29 pm
Reply to  Rosevillain

There are going to be a lot of pretty good coaches available before the start of next season, and it won’t matter because VD had friends who were otherwise unemployable.

MidtownMike
June 4, 2021 8:25 pm

Stotts fired… Good thing we already committed to Walton…

bjax1
June 4, 2021 9:54 pm

Interesting article and good discussion, it’s a slippery slope deciding just how much and what type of a bad character incident is too much for a good player. Sadly, it’s also dependent on ability. The better you are the more benefit of the doubt you get. Kobe was charged with Rape. Ray Lewis with covering up a murder, Mike Tyson was convicted of Rape. The Morris twins charged with Felony assault, and the list goes on. I tend to give everyone at least one mistake and assume they learned their lesson. However I don’t blame anyone for having a different opinion.

RikSmits
June 5, 2021 7:00 am

As outspoken and engaged as Vivek is about some off-court social matters, he apparently doesn’t give a shit about others.

There’s now a track record under his watch with DV-related issues that is hard to dismiss.

AmateurNerd
June 5, 2021 8:05 am
Reply to  RikSmits

There’s a whole lot of self-serving going on in Vivek-land. It really does make it seem like the Kings’ public positioning around racism, policing, and other social-justice matters is just posturing for the sake of appeasing a vocal segment of the Kings’ fanbase. It’s all business. Anybody who thinks Vivek wouldn’t fly a Thin Blue Line flag outside G1C if he thought it would help his team’s bottom line is delusional.

Reddingtyguy
June 5, 2021 12:31 pm

I’m much more concerned about the DV than the mask thing. Too often, it’s been brushed off in professional sports and even our franchise. Not even considering the lifelong effects that it has both on the victim and the children involved. Until players are held accountable for their actions and not just receive slaps on the wrist, nothing will change. The mask thing should be a minor footnote, not a major reason to dislike the guy. Putting the two incidents on the same level is not only demeaning to women, but waters down the prevalent issue of domestic violence in our society. Especially since the guy gets tested every single day for crying out loud. He could go maskless for all I care, since he’s more closely monitored than the ICU nurses in COVID units. I certainly hope the hole in a mask is not as detestable in your eyes as domestic violence. As far as him as a player on the court, I feel like he provided good shooting and an energy that was lacking before he joined. Are his skill replaceable? For sure. But you better find someone who can match that energy.

Kayte_Hunter_Fan_club
June 5, 2021 4:17 pm

I presume you also can’t gush over Kobe Bryant’s career.

RobHessing
June 6, 2021 8:43 am

Never have. Never will.

Kayte_Hunter_Fan_club
June 6, 2021 3:48 pm
Reply to  RobHessing

My comment was directed to the author of the article not you.

RobHessing
June 6, 2021 3:51 pm

Ah. A general comment in the community thread is often viewed as open for general response. If it was meant specifically for Greg, perhaps note that it is specifically for Greg?

Kayte_Hunter_Fan_club
June 7, 2021 7:15 am
Reply to  RobHessing

Yes it’s open to general response, I just said it was directed to the author of the article. When a comment is made that is not in response to someone else’s comment it is presumed to be made in response to the authors article.

Kayte_Hunter_Fan_club
June 7, 2021 7:23 am
Reply to  Greg

I would be very careful about making judgments on unsubstantiated media reports. As you should know, much of the media is far too willing to get out a good story regardless of the facts. Take a look at the Duke Lacrosse story sometime. Often when these stories come out, it becomes a great opportunity for many in the media to act sanctimonious. Politicians and the media are perhaps the two least credible professions we have.

Otis
June 7, 2021 9:56 am
Reply to  Greg

There are court documents in Kobe’s case, as well.

Otis
June 7, 2021 9:55 am

So you don’t really think we should be critical of Kobe Bryant, am I understanding correctly? Or we should be equally critical of Kobe as Mr. Davis?

It seems to be a debate crutch for you but hard to tell which side you’re on.

By the way, there is plenty of information available through public record on Kobe’s rape “allegation” in Colorado. No politicians or media necessary.

You’re an apologist for domestic violence. And one false allegation is anecdote, not data.

Kayte_Hunter_Fan_club
June 7, 2021 11:50 am
Reply to  Otis

I’m criticizing the way these things are litigated in the court of public opinion and in the media. I think I’m one of the few women on this site and I’m far from an apologist for domestic violence. I’m so sick of hearing in the media what great people Kobe Bryant and Ray Lewis are while those same media people use the low profile athlete to take their grand stand against domestic violence. Also, quite often when these things come out, the media doesn’t have the facts straight like in the Duke Lacrosse case. So overall, the media in general has as pretty poor record reporting these things.

Kayte_Hunter_Fan_club
June 7, 2021 7:52 pm
Reply to  Greg

There are many examples. Here’s a couple more high profile ones and I can cite many more.
Jesse Smollett
Nick Sandmann

Otis
June 7, 2021 3:08 pm

You’re apologizing for it on this very page. Male or female, your arguments strike me as someone who actually knows very little about domestic violence in this country but tries to come off as an expert.

The media isn’t the main problem here, but it’s a great whipping horse for the ignorant.

Kayte_Hunter_Fan_club
June 7, 2021 8:40 pm
Reply to  Otis

HA ha ha. You of all people accusing someone professing to be an expert at something. This coming from someone who lives on a dumbbell blog and talks like he knows something about everything. A guy who praises some blog nut Joel who among others things claims to be a French revolutionary, says violence is a means to an end, states freedom is overrated, claims to kill capitalist boys. You a guy who thinks he’s an expert at basketball but can’t even dribble a ball twice without stopping. Now you’re an expert at domestic violence. You’ve got quite a blog resume. Go outside and get some fresh air, it’s good treatment for an anonymous habitual blogger. Nobody is apologizing for domestic violence you nut job.

Otis
June 8, 2021 6:25 am

1. LOL, that whole verbal diarrhea in the middle sounds drug induced. Who the hell are you talking about?

2. Did you just put me on blast for being an “anonymous habitual blogger” while posting from a handle with someone else’s name in it?

3. You’re back to the “dribbling a basketball” crutch. You’re going to have to find a third act, kid.

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Kayte_Hunter_Fan_club
June 8, 2021 8:51 am
Reply to  Otis

When you’re amnesia clears up say hi to Joel you Swellhead.

EastCoastKingsFan
June 7, 2021 10:05 am

You Californian liberals kill me

Otis
June 7, 2021 10:09 am

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RobHessing
June 7, 2021 10:33 am

Being anti-DV is a liberal thing? I guess that makes me a liberal. Who knew? I learn something new every day around here.

Jman1949
June 7, 2021 11:04 am

Meanwhile East Coasters are no laughing matter

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