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Sacramento’s second-half struggles allowed one ridiculous no-call to be the difference

The late-game officiating was an issue, but there was more to the game than a lack of calls.

Down three points against the defending NBA Champions on their home court with 1.3 seconds remaining in regulation, De'Aaron Fox inbounded the ball to Kevin Huerter. His game-tying triple missed short and left. It missed because he was fouled by Klay Thompson.

Immediately after the shot went up Huerter, Fox, Malik Monk, and Domantas Sabonis all began pleading their case to the official. Thompson hit Huerter's shooting elbow prior to the release and made contact with his wrist/hand soon after.

Fox tweeted about it. Monk did the same. Kevin Huerter liked a tweet about the Kings getting screwed over by officials and added his thoughts on Twitter as well. Head Coach Mike Brown shared his frustration postgame.

"I feel bad for our guys. It’s tough being a Sacramento King, I think, because Kevin got fouled. I know there are missed calls through the course of the game, missed calls on us, missed calls on our opponent. I just want, at the end of the game, somebody to step up and make the right call. A guy gets hit on the arm shooting a three, that’s a foul," Coach Brown said. "A guy takes six steps, or three, four steps, it’s a travel. We just want an opportunity to win in overtime, but just like in the Miami game, I asked the ref if it was a foul, he said no. It’s clearly a foul. Again, like I said, I feel bad because our guys fought and they didn’t get an opportunity in overtime. It’s part of it, you know, but to have two games like that on the road where the whistle is swallowed and then there’s a missed call. That’s tough, man."

Four days prior to Monday night's game in Golden State, Sacramento lost another heartbreaker in Miami where Tyler Herro traveled on the game-winning shot. Both losses during the Kings' four-game road trip featured crucial missed calls in the closing moments in favor of their opposition.

"It’s a marathon and our guys are getting better. But, like I said, maybe we could have done better record-wise," Coach Brown said postgame. "After a loss like this, it stings, especially when you feel like you at least should have gotten an opportunity to try to send it into overtime."

The referees missed that call, no doubt, but there were 47 minutes prior to that moment that allowed one final possession to be the difference.

Sacramento led 67-59 at the half behind Fox, Sabonis, and Monk's combined 49 points which included 18/19 from the free-throw line. Golden State, meanwhile, was 5/16 from beyond the arc with all but one made triple coming from Stephen Curry.

The Warriors' bench had been absolutely horrific to start the season and Sacramento took advantage of that while making some rotational changes at the backup five that Coach Brown hinted at prior to tipoff.

"It's a long season. [Holmes] is gonna stick with it. At the end of the day, we're gonna try to get wins collectively as a group and that's why this is a team and sometimes it may mean that we play 13 guys, or we change up this guy or change up that guy," Coach Brown said. "We're gonna try to get a win in any way, shape, or form that we can and Richaun is gonna be a big part of what we're doing this year as time moves on."

 

Chimezie Metu functioned as the backup five and allowed the Kings to switch everything on the defensive end of the floor. Davion Mitchell played a substantial amount of minutes alongside Fox, which had been a rare sight coming into the night.

Their energy and defensive efforts were crucial to Sacramento's halftime lead, but others struggled heavily as the game went on.

Harrison Barnes felt non-existent on both ends and ended the game with zero points for just the second time in his Sacramento career.

Keegan Murray looked lost on defense when paired against Golden State's starting unit, which is to be expected when you're talking about a rookie going against the defending champions but didn't help the final outcome.

Kevin Huerter gave up multiple backdoor cuts and transition layups before being repeatedly targeted by Curry in isolation down the stretch.

Stephen Curry scored 17 in the fourth quarter, en route to a 47-point showing on 17/24 from the field along with eight assists and zero turnovers. Wiggins added 13 of this own in the final quarter as Sacramento's defense honed in on the two-time MVP.

"You gotta be about perfect when you’re guarding him and you gotta hope also and pray that he misses a couple of shots," Coach Brown said postgame. "We gotta get up the floor a little bit, find him in transition. We gotta keep making sure that he shoots twos instead of threes. Those things. But, like I said, I take my hat off to him and the rest of the Warriors cuz they turned it up a notch in the second half and we tried to respond but it was great for us to go through on the road.”

The no-call on the final possession of the game was egregious, but Sacramento had their opportunities to not let the game get to that point in the first place.

Their lack of physicality and wavering engagement in the second half allowed that call to drop their season record to 3-6, but the Kings have given themselves a chance to win almost every game they've been a part of and showed signs of promise along the way.

"We’re trending upwards," Coach Brown said. "We just gotta keep getting better. We can’t take as many possessions off as we did in the second half. Like I said, overall, throw the record out the window, I'm pleased with the progress we’ve made in these nine games."

Last season, it was difficult to define a true strength but Sacramento's list of weaknesses was extensive. This year, there seems to be a remaining optimism that if they can clean up the defensive side of the floor things will be just fine.

"(Coach Brown) has been in a lot of situations with a lot of winnings teams, so we just gotta trust him. We just gotta trust the work. It’s still early. We close, man. We’re super close," Monk said. "...It’s all on the defensive end. The offense is always going to come to us, man. We just got a lot of weapons on that end. So, if we just buy into the little things, we’ll get it going. We’ll turn it around."

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murraytant
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November 8, 2022 12:56 pm

I am totally over losing is winning. And over “bright side” and “competitive” etc. Kings lost the game. They did some good things but more bad things and lost.
I must be in the bargaining stages of death and dying since I want to posit that if Davion, Barnes and Holmes all played like last year, Kings would be a lot better.

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November 8, 2022 1:21 pm
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I’m close to totally over the “if X or Y would have played better” takes.

It doesn’t work like that. In most games some players on a team have better games than usual, other worse games and some are around their average.

If Barnes would be hot, we’d be lamenting the lack of impact from Murray, or if Davion would have good game we’d wonder why Monk barely scored etc. There’s a stronger than butterfly effect to those things.

And it often seems to be a very one-sided argument. If Fox would have played… ignoring the absence of Butler.
If Barnes would have played well… ignoring bad games from Klay or whomever.

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November 8, 2022 6:11 pm
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Exactly this. Somehow winning teams figure out how to eliminate this gray area and push it solidly into the win column.

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November 8, 2022 4:01 pm
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Yeah can we just get straight to the winning and skip being competitive? Not sure that’s how it works…

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November 8, 2022 4:02 pm
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Agreed here. Different year, same result. Getting closer but still the team is 3-7 when the game is over.

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November 8, 2022 10:04 pm
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still the team is 3-7

Not feeling too confident about that Cleveland game, huh? Can’t say I blame you!

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November 9, 2022 10:04 am
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I am totally over losing is winning. And over “bright side” and “competitive” etc. Kings lost the game.

They did some good things but more bad things and lost.

There are 2 parts to this. The first I agree with. While I don’t think the ‘doomers’ as they have been called around here are accurate about this team, the record is what it is 3-6. Some stretches are tough, some less so.

Did the Kings do things that ultimately cost them the game against the Dubs? Yeah. But it’s to like the Dubs kicked their ass and severely outplayed them either. It was a tight game that the Kings simply didn’t execute quite as well because, hey, they didn’t have Steph Curry or Andrew Wiggins. Those guys combined for 30 of the 37 points for the Warriors in the 4th Monday night. It’s not like the almighty championship Warriors showed out.

More bad things? Vehemently disagree. They didn’t do enough good things ,but the Warriors did not, again, A) outplay the KIngs or B) clearly dominate the game as some thought before the game started might happen. The Kings simply are at the beginning stages of a season and an era where they’ve been largely uncompetitive. This is competitive NBA basketball. It’s a challenging stretch. But more bad things? Not a chance in HE double hockey sticks I can agree with you on that one.

That said, I’m interested to see how the Cleveland game goes. It’s a great measuring stick, and I think the Kings glasses (or the doomer glasses more accurately) are tainting the early part of this season for some. I know I’m among the optimists around here, but that isnt’ saying anything. This place is 75% doom and gloom. I think this is a 45 win team, and will continue to maintain that. Losses to the Warriors, or the loss to the Heat for that matter, do not dissaude me. If anything, it’s telling me that when the schedule eases up and perhaps there is better familiarity and so forth you might win some of these tight games. You might even close a game out properly.

I’m not making excuses. I’m just offering reasons for why I’m still optimistic. Sure, this team is 3-6, but I think realistically you can probably say they are 4-5 or at best 5-4 if a few breaks go their way. Does that mean the Kings beat Cleveland? No. Does it mean they win 45 games on the season? No. Does that mean that things can’t go wrong or whatever? No.

But I feel like this team is different, and I’ve gotten the impression that things are on the rise. It’s a gut feeling, but it’s also based on little things. The Kings are #2 in DRB%, they are 7th in offensive eFG%. Sure the Kings are also 28th in defensive eFG%. The Sacramento Kings are not a painting by Michalangelo. Or Donatello. Or Leonardo. And especially not by Raphael. But I digress. I see reasons to be optimistic. We haven’t seen the best of Domas, De’Aaron Fox is playing at an All Star level, Murray has his best games in front of him, Barnes can find himself again would be huge, Huerter and Monk continue to play at their levels this year, and Mike Brown seems to be a real catalyst for change. Do I expect anyone to change their minds based on 9 games? No. But I think it’s a little early to say which way things will go yet.

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November 8, 2022 1:17 pm

We need some practice for out-of-bounds ball Dive-Save
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November 8, 2022 1:26 pm

The Kings are clearly trying harder this year, and the games have been entertaining.

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November 8, 2022 1:44 pm
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You’re Sacramento Kings. At least they are trying this year.

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November 8, 2022 2:02 pm
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Let’s be real: they are absolutely trying every year.

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November 8, 2022 2:03 pm
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That’s the sad part

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November 8, 2022 2:40 pm
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Then why watch?

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November 8, 2022 2:48 pm
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Because Hobby’s a Kings fan?

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November 8, 2022 3:26 pm
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Fair enough. Sometimes, it sounds like a hostage situation.

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November 8, 2022 3:30 pm
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The precise definition of being a Kings fan. We call it Stockton Syndrome, though you may prefer SuckHome Syndrome.

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November 8, 2022 4:45 pm
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Fandom is not a bandwagon thing for me. The teams hasn’t been very good in my 40 years of life, but they are my hometown team and I just don’t jump ship because they have sucked for a while.

So I complain when they suck because I want them to be good so badly, the cynical nature comes out. They might not make the playoffs again in my lifetime and I will still pull for them.

If that means criticize them because of complete ineptitude for decades, then that’s what I will do. And I will get excited when they show some semblance of doing smart things.

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November 8, 2022 4:43 pm
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I do notice (eye test) that this group is better than previous years, again no stats to back this up. Next up is to get decent returns for Barnes and Holmes. Kool-Kat-Keegan will be back, I think just first time NBA road trip jitters.

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November 8, 2022 4:46 pm
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The Kings are clearly trying harder this year? I’ll give you Fox for sure, but I’m not sure who is trying harder on the roster then they did last year.

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November 8, 2022 5:21 pm
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Luke Walton maybe?

I mean, he couldn’t try any less!

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November 9, 2022 6:52 pm
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Yes, Fox is trying harder, and wouldn’t that be enough? How often does he have the ball in his hands? We have a better coaching staff that imo is doing a better job at motivating its players. The absence of Buddy Hield. The general feeling that if you screw up, a time out is going to get called and you might sit the rest of the game. I think our additions are better than what we had, in every way.

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November 8, 2022 1:47 pm

Corner-camping Murray
Barnes bad form shooting trey
And No Lyles?
Buts/Whats/whys?
Parts of why we lost I say

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November 8, 2022 5:36 pm
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No Lyles. I didn’t understand it last night nor do I understand it this night. Particularly vis a vis Wiggins, who, credit where it is due, was a difference maker for his team when it mattered most on this back to back 3’s.

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November 8, 2022 2:19 pm

As someone said in an earlier thread, it was a one-possession game for the Warriors, too. No one considers it a kind of team character flaw, because they won.

The issue remains that the refs cost the Kings a chance to fairly compete for the win. Absolute bottom line. If Huerter had made only two of three free throws, then that’s how it goes, but he was denied the opportunity because of terrible officiating. There is no recourse for calls that weren’t made, and it’s putting gaping holes in the league’s credibility.

There’s only so much shit that a team should be forced to eat.

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November 8, 2022 4:22 pm
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I could be wrong, but I don’t think anyone is arguing that it is a character flaw for either team. Yes, the refs blew the call at the end of the game, and yes, there was plenty of room for improvement in the Kings play to not have been in that situation in the first place.

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November 8, 2022 4:59 pm
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You could apply that logic to any game where a team loses by one possession.

Sure, it would be nice if the Kings had maintained their lead until the end. The point, and the bottom line, is that Sacramento had an opportunity to tie the game, but couldn’t because Klay Thompson smacked Huerter while the latter was shooting, and the ref staring directly at both of them declined to call the game according to the rules.

There are a lot of calls in any game that may butterfly effect the outcome of a game, but it’s not very hard to swat away the idea that a blown call in the second quarter determines the ultimate outcome. This is one play, the last of the game, where the official’s actions slammed shut the door on the opportunity for Sacramento.

The Kings may have ended up losing in overtime, but that’s beside the point. One man decided that the game was over, and the overwhelming consensus based on evidence screams that it should not have been.

If the NBA wants teams and fans to stop talking about bias, then they need to stop letting it happen. Is there any doubt that had Huerter fouled Thompson, the walk to the free throw line would have been immediate?

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November 8, 2022 4:40 pm
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I would hope the league uses reviews like this to pick their refs for the playoffs and finals, because I’d imagine a missed call like that in a crucial playoff game would be all over social media and the press. We’d be hearing Stephan A. Smith yell about it for a week.

If that were Curry who was fouled by Devin Booker in game 6 of the Western Conference Finals, the league would be scrambling to address/remedy the situation.

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November 8, 2022 5:02 pm
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I stand by my idea that the NBA should have 50% more referees than actually needed, and when these guys completely fuck the dog on calls, they get rotated out.

Wanna earn that game money? Then do better.

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November 8, 2022 5:17 pm
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I agree to an extent. I don’t see why they can’t have a 4th ref sitting sideline watching the replay as it comes in real time. If the crowd and tv audience can see the replay before the next play even happens, then so can the 4th ref.

GIve him a veto button that then gives the other 3 refs a chance to review. Even if it’s just the last 5 minutes of the game, then so be it. That’s when those types of calls matter most. Give the coaches the chance to challenge in the first 43 minutes of the game, and a 4th ref the last 5.

We live in a marvelous time of technology, so why not use it?

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November 8, 2022 5:25 pm
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Screw it. I’m petitioning for VOTE-IN REFEREEING!

Folks at home:

FOUL OR NO FOUL?

Text 1 for FOUL
Text 2 for NO FOUL
Text 3 to switch to GEICO car insurance.

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November 9, 2022 12:23 pm
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Delightfully simple solution, and absolutely workable.

The only issue is with no-call plays like the ones that have cost Sacramento wins. For end-of-games, a delay in getting the call right isn’t going to mess with the flow of the game, but despite the endless claims that these are the best officials on earth, it doesn’t come within miles of passing the smell test. These guys miss a ton of calls, and I’m not sure how to keep the stoppages reasonable.

Maybe give the coaches two challenges per game, and if they win, the keep the challenge. Already this season, we’ve seen Brown win challenges to correct blown calls, only to be left at the mercy of subsequent incompetence from the official, with no recourse.

Something has to be done.

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November 8, 2022 6:22 pm
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Who decides who fucked the dog? The other refs?

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November 9, 2022 12:23 pm

You’re the expert, chief.

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November 9, 2022 7:44 pm
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Asking you. Your idea is not anything new but it has not been done.

The hard part is who decides what is good or bad?

How do you keep an additional 50% when you are also sitting the supposed bad ones?

Quickly get down to the few good refs.

Like your idea but how does it work?

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November 8, 2022 6:18 pm
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Both teams had the same refs. The Warrior fans were shouting at the refs the entire game because of course they also thought the refs sucked ass.

Don’t give up a lead and allow the refs to decode the game.

Explain the character flaw you mention? Team? Refs?

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November 8, 2022 2:47 pm

There was never a momi in this game where I thought the Kings would win. Fox and Sabonis are not killers, this team doesn’t change much. I do have more confidence in them being able to fight and stay in games for the whole game but the ending is always predictable. This is a 12 seed, that’s it.

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November 8, 2022 6:39 pm
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Wow I had the exact opposite take and thought the Kings were clearly the better team.

There was never a momi in this game where I thought the Kings would win

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November 8, 2022 8:10 pm
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Not sure if facetious, and I didn’t see the game, but I feared that if we didn’t build a sizable lead and it was a close game toward the end, the Dubs would win just based on being a veteran team.

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November 8, 2022 8:06 pm
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They could be a 9-10 seed. But that is really the ceiling for this team.

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November 8, 2022 3:39 pm

The referees missed that call, no doubt, but there were 47 minutes prior to that moment that allowed one final possession to be the difference.

This is kind of where I’m at with respect to these end-of-game missed calls.

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November 8, 2022 4:55 pm
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Me too. The whole not fouling at end until 1.3. Etc. Dumb

Overall, I see the Kings improving but yet to execute their offense down the stretch consistently. It turns into dribble dribble 1-1. The hope is they are learning O and will get it, along with execution late.

Same with lack of focus on defense every possession or as close as possible. Hope they get better but have improved.

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November 8, 2022 3:45 pm

2 bad no calls. 2 minute report confirmed that Curry committed a 5 sec violation. Should have been Kings ball down 1 with 1.3 seconds left.

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November 8, 2022 3:56 pm
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The report actually finds that Metu’s foul occurred before any 5 sec violation:

Comment:The foul is called on Metu (SAC) prior to a potential five second violation being committed by Curry (GSW).

There is a second incorrect no-call identified on a Curry traveling violation at the beginning of a sequence that ends with him ultimately sinking two free throws to put the Dubs up by 3 pts:

Q400:16.6Turnover: TravelingStephen CurryKingsINCVideo 

Comment:Curry (GSW) splits his feet at the start of his dribble.

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November 8, 2022 4:11 pm
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Yep. You’re correct. I missread.

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November 8, 2022 5:26 pm
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2 minute report:

“GFunkClassic was incorrect and missread!”

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November 8, 2022 4:12 pm
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5 second (away from rim) violation is not a rule in NBA. It is in college (and other) basketball.

NBA only have 5 second violations on inboudning and dribbling back to basket, the “Charles Barkley rule.”

They did determine that there was an uncalled Curry travel at :17
Link to report: https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0022200156

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November 8, 2022 4:44 pm
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I don’t know. It specifically says in the 2 minute report that the foul came right before the 5 sec violation. I think the distinction is that it has to be below the free throw line whereas high school and college you could force a 5 sec call anywhere in the half court

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November 8, 2022 4:44 pm

it was a delight watching Davion pick up Curry full court. more of that please.

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November 8, 2022 6:24 pm
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Effort.

Same thing that got Curry 47 and the Warriors win.

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November 9, 2022 12:28 pm
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Agreed, Davion did an admirable job of covering Curry when he had the chance.

But to speak to Steph’s greatness, Mitchell is a top-level defender, and there were a couple of times where he found himself several feet away from Curry after some trickery that had been performed. If you can cross the wires of Davion Mitchell, I’m not sure that anyone can stay in front of you over the course of a game. Curry is an all-time great, full stop.

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November 9, 2022 12:42 pm
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If I were a Warriors fan, at this point, I’m hoping they can flip a switch because right now they look a long ways away from being a championship team. It took an all time performance from Curry, and a great performance from Wiggins as his sidekick to beat the Kings. There are worse things than like that IMO.

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November 9, 2022 7:54 pm
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Davion can play D but the entire league knows he cannot stay in a game because he eventually becomes a liability to a team trying to win. Scoring matters too.

Have not heard anyone outside Sacramento state that Davion is a top level defender.

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November 8, 2022 8:05 pm

Close? I do agree Fox has elevated his game this year. Huerter has looked great up until a few games ago. When teams finally have the film on him. Not particularly athletic, not really a creator, and has trouble fighting through screens and can be taken out of his comfort zone. A big reason Atlanta was willing to let him walk. He’s a good player. But some fans were thinking he’s a 20ppg a night scorer. Sabonis and His numbers are back to the mean. But I don’t know how much his numbers correlate with winning. I also think teams with good aggressive defenders can rough him up. Keegan has fallen off a little. Creation is not his forte and that’s why his numbers have declined. He’s not super athletic. But I have seen him play some good defense on occasion. Brown needs to call more plays for him to get involved in the offense. Even if it’s just as a shooter. Team Defense is no better than last year. Holmes and Barnes are going to be difficult to unload. Barnes will probably net the kings a prospect or late first rounder. But you’re not getting a starter for him. Kings are screwed with Holmes 3 years at 12. No one is picking that up. Overall, I see a few more wins than last year. 38-40 sounds about right. I don’t understand fans that complain about the schedule. The Kings have played a total of 3 +.500 teams: Blazers, Suns, and Grizz. they lost all 3. No ref influence.

Sure, the games have all been close. But moral victories after 17 years don’t hold much water at this point. You have to start beating good teams. If you consider this team has really improved. Losing by 2 or 20, is still a loss.

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November 9, 2022 7:59 am
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Huerter has looked great up until a few games ago. When teams finally have the film on him. Not particularly athletic, not really a creator, and has trouble fighting through screens and can be taken out of his comfort zone. A big reason Atlanta was willing to let him walk. He’s a good player. But some fans were thinking he’s a 20ppg a night scorer. 

Who were these fans claiming Huerter was a 20 PPG guy? Atlanta gave up Huerter because they couldn’t move Bogdan Bogdanovich, not because they gave up on Huerter. Atlanta was trying to get under the luxury tax, that’s why they ended up trading Mo Harkless to OKC. Huerter is a valuable role player and is taking a whole FGA more this season than he did in Atlanta generally speaking. He’s mostly taking more 3’s.

Huerter is basically a 11, 3 ast, 3 reb 1 steal guy in 4 years in Atlanta. He’s basically a 17, 3, 3 and a bit under a steal a game in Sacramento. The biggest difference is his 3pt shooting. But that 17 wont hold up, and I would suspect 14PPG is what Huerter avg’s over the course of the season along with the 3, 3 and 1 that he has avg’d in Atlanta.

The Kings have played a total of 3 +.500 teams: Blazers, Suns, and Grizz. they lost all 3. No ref influence.

Umm, huh? The Kings haven’t played the Suns yet. I don’t see what record of your opponent matters much this early in the season. But if that’s your jam, go forth I suppose.

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November 9, 2022 8:35 am
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My bad Suns were in the preseason. But Atlanta still went over the luxury tax. Now 34 million over. How did you think they brought in Murray? Murray is an All Star, dynamic 3 way player. That’s the real reason Huerter is no longer there. He became expendable. They signed Holiday and Culver to back up Tray/Murray. And they already have Bogdan. Spurs got 3 first round picks and a pick swap.

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November 9, 2022 9:01 am
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Atlanta isn’t over the tax.

Murray is an All Star, dynamic 3 way player. That’s the real reason Huerter is no longer there. 

I won’t argue that Huerter probably lost his spot the same way Holmes lost his in that Atlanta acquired a better player in Murray. And I’m going to assume you mean a 2 way player and that was a typo. If not, I’d like to see what a 3 player looks like.

They signed Holiday and Culver to back up Tray/Murray. And they already have Bogdan.

They signed Aaron, traded for Justin — in exchange for Huerter — and yes they had Bogdan. But Huerter is a healthier similar value player to Bogdanovic and cheaper. Also younger. Plus Huerter was signed to his extension with Bogdanovic already in tow. It’s not like Atlanta absolutely planned to trade Huerter when they signed Huerter to the extension they did in the 2021 off-season.

I guess it comes down to opportunities, and what’s important. The Hawks are holding onto John Collins, which makes sense since I doubt they stop star hunting (for a player better than Trae Young) anytime soon. That’s the name of the game.

I think the reality of why Huerter was traded was simple: He was a casualty of the Hawks not wanting to pay luxury tax.

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November 9, 2022 7:56 pm
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Why is it always assumed that teams do anything to avoid a luxury tax?

Plenty of teams willingly pay the luxury tax and win.

It is a tax not a hard cap. Pay to play.

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November 9, 2022 9:07 am
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Huerter has been playing well. his two-man game with Sabonis is special. next to Fox, he is mostly being utilized as a deep range sniper like Buddy Hield was, and, wait a second … his 3-point shooting percentage is 50% for the year? is that a typo?

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November 9, 2022 9:54 am
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November 8, 2022 10:34 pm

Too many bad calls
Teardrop hits thirsty hardwood
Purple illusion

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November 9, 2022 9:29 am

I would love to know what is going on behind the scenes with Okpala? The team is down to the wire in so many recent games, Brown has a guy that he says has DPOY potential, and KZ can’t get off the bench.

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