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Kings 104, Hawks 121: Who cares?

The Kings have lost the last two games by a combined 70 points. Next stop, playoffs!
By | 136 Comments | Jan 26, 2022

Jan 26, 2022; Atlanta, Georgia, USA; Atlanta Hawks guard Bogdan Bogdanovic (13) drives towards the basket against the Sacramento Kings during the game at State Farm Arena. Mandatory Credit: Dale Zanine-USA TODAY Sports

The Kings are bad, etc. You’ve heard it all before. For some actually-good reading I’ll recommend recent contributions from Omer Khan about how the Kings can actually build a successful basketball team around De’Aaron Fox and Tyrese Haliburton and Bryant West on the difference between tanking and whatever the hell the Kings are doing.

I guess we’ll talk about the game tonight for a few minutes? Feel free to proceed directly to the comment section for venting. There is nothing worthwhile ahead.

The Kings started Davion Mitchell vs. the Atlanta Hawks with Terence Davis joining De’Aaron Fox on the injury report. Davis suffered a right wrist ECU tendon injury in Boston on Tuesday that will require him to miss an indefinite amount of time. 

Mitchell and the Kings looked pretty good in the first quarter. Davion’s strong defense made Trae Young’s life difficult enough, and for the first time in a long time, Mitchell’s offense looked pretty good, too. The Kings won the first quarter 33-21 largely because of Davion, so if you’re looking for some very minor positives in another night of misery, there’s one? Eh, not really.

Unfortunately (or fortunately?) the wheels fell all the way off after that one competent quarter of basketball. The Hawks beat the Kings 46-17 in the 2nd quarter thanks to some comfortably pathetic defense by Your Team to take a 17-point lead into the half, and from there I largely stopped paying attention to mess around with the trade machine instead. Anyway, Kings lose 121-104. Whatever.

The NBA Trade Deadline is Thursday, February 10. Hopefully Monte McNair set an alarm.

 

 

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02kingsfan
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January 26, 2022 7:02 pm

Tony how did you manage to write SIX paragraphs after watching this kangzing performance?

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January 26, 2022 7:51 pm
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That’s like me when I was writing essays in high school to reach the page limit……I would spend time adding so many unnecessary words.

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January 26, 2022 10:29 pm
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Like our announcers do especially… well, all of them.

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January 26, 2022 11:07 pm
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Ha! True!

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January 27, 2022 2:06 am
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Kyle teasing that Joe Montana story was, in fact, the most suspenseful moment of the night.

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January 26, 2022 7:08 pm

I actually wanted to watch this in jest tonight. Still couldn’t do it.

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January 26, 2022 10:25 pm

But it’s so much better without expectations.

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January 26, 2022 7:16 pm

Which team is so mean that they would trade one of their players to the Kings?

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January 26, 2022 7:21 pm
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Umm, the Sixers with Simmons comes to mind.

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January 26, 2022 7:23 pm
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Even them and even him.

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January 26, 2022 7:37 pm
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Yes indeed. After what he’s done to his teammates I definitely want him traded here. Let him rot.

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January 27, 2022 2:08 am
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Seriously. Tonight when Bogdon was going off my only thought was that I was happy he had escaped.

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January 26, 2022 7:22 pm

Okay, we have to look at Haliburton with clear eyes. He’s kinda fun, but he’s also limited. Not a great athlete and probably not a real difference maker. He runs a good pick and roll, but beyond that, he doesn’t command much respect from defenses. And he makes a lot of dumb passes.

He has put up numbers at times, but someone has to put up numbers on an awful team. And he disappears way too often.

I see him as a glue guy and not someone who gets you to the next level. Seems like a lot of teams covet him right now. That may not be the case in a year. (see Fox, Barnes, Buddy)

I’d shop him for all he’s worth right now.

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January 26, 2022 7:31 pm
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His advanced stats have him as the best second year player in the league. That aside, trading a quality young player on their rookie deal is something teams rarely do unless you are swinging for the fences (Ingram and Ball for AD comes to mind). There are rookie deal busts that you move, but Hali is not that. You’d have to be blown away with a deal to move him and his contract. IMO, he’s the last guy you move on this team.

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January 26, 2022 7:35 pm
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I like him, but you can see his limitations. Can he become a star? That’s the question. Because that’s the only thing that wins games in the NBA.

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January 26, 2022 7:43 pm
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I’m not sure he becomes a star, but you have to take his contract in heavy consideration. The dude is costing the team less than Davion Mitchell. You cannot sell low on his contract to value right now. If he was on his second deal and. few years older, we’d be having a far different conversation

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January 26, 2022 7:36 pm
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I totally agree with you on Hali. He doesn’t strike me as a player to build a team around. If a good deal comes around, take it.

Sell high while the going is good, if so many teams covet him.

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January 26, 2022 7:43 pm
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If Hali is more than your 4th best player do not count on playoffs ! However, I think he is a player to fit on a winner but as a limited starter !

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January 26, 2022 8:56 pm
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Napear, you know what they are going to do right? Wait until he isn’t worth much and THEN start shopping him….it’s the kangZ way

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January 26, 2022 9:14 pm
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I’m with you on Hali. He doesn’t strike me as a star, but would be a great role player on a good team. This is why I think we should keep both Fox and hali because they complement each other with their skill sets, but take good deals if they are available for either. No need to trade either right now

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January 27, 2022 2:11 am
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I think he looks a lot like the kind of guy I usually see on championship teams, so I think maybe they keep him.

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January 27, 2022 6:19 am
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Would’ve LOVED to see him share the floor with Bogi. I think those 2 could have built some real chemistry that would’ve been a joy to watch

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January 26, 2022 7:24 pm

I think it’s fair to remember that Atlanta is 12th in their conference.

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January 27, 2022 5:44 am
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Yeah but the Kings have had COVID to deal with, and COVID doesn’t exist in the South.

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January 27, 2022 9:33 am
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Underrated comment.

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January 26, 2022 7:25 pm

I know we kinda say player trade value doesn’t change much over time, but I can’t help but think McNair has put this team in a worse spot with the food coma since he was hired. The team is obviously in desperate need of change and almost all of the players are playing the worst basketball of their careers, which wasn’t (as much) the case a year ago.

I don’t think anyone wants to hear “We did nothing because the assets I devalued by doing nothing have no value.”

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January 26, 2022 7:31 pm
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January 26, 2022 7:37 pm
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Agreed. I feel like Monte is sitting on guys because he can’t get a fair return in his mind’s eye, but really he’s just sitting on some MySpace and Napster contacts when he should have cut bait long ago.

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January 27, 2022 5:46 am
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Yep. He sticks to his numbers, but the numbers he has on his own players are inflated. To think this current group can “push for the playoffs,” you can’t just ignore what your eyes are seeing, you need to gouge them, dig them out with a rusty spoon, and burn them on a pyre.

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January 26, 2022 7:38 pm
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That’s great.

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January 26, 2022 7:39 pm
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High compliments coming from someone who has mastered the art of the KANGZ meme.

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January 26, 2022 7:40 pm
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I’ve lost my mojo this year tho.

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January 27, 2022 9:30 am
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Savage. 😎

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January 26, 2022 7:27 pm

Wish I could quit my job and still get free travel and a pay check.

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January 26, 2022 8:57 pm

You could try out? How much worse can this team get?

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January 26, 2022 10:39 pm
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Good idea. Won’t have to move either. Never trade anyone.

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January 26, 2022 7:28 pm

Being traded to the Kings is a threat. Players shape up quickly.

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January 26, 2022 7:30 pm

Since the kings game is over, I’d recommend checking out this commentator on ESPN, he’s pretty good at calling games, his name is MARK JONES

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January 26, 2022 7:42 pm
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Kangz don’t play actual games. They put cool shirts on stand on an NBA court for 48 minutes.

Nothing for him to call when working for the Kangz.

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January 26, 2022 7:48 pm
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You mean part-time member of leagues worst broadcast ! Every part of this team is a disaster ! Thanks to Vivek and Matina ! 😡

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January 26, 2022 10:31 pm
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Everyone was “playing with their food”. I’d die happy if I never had to hear that line again.

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January 27, 2022 2:15 am
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When I die I want them to put the ashes in my bag.

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January 26, 2022 7:37 pm

Hey all, so tonight’s Operation: M.C.N.A.I.R donations went to the Lupus Foundation of Northern California.

If you feel the need to take your frustrations out on donations, the link is below!

https://www.lfnc.org/

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January 26, 2022 7:46 pm
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This is so awesome. Count my family in.

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January 26, 2022 7:48 pm
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Love it Adamsite! If you post it here or on my thread on Twitter, I’ll be sure to give you a big shoutout!

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January 26, 2022 8:06 pm
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Donation made. No need for a shout out. You have my support. Fantastic idea on your part!

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January 26, 2022 11:06 pm
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Adamsite, thank you SO MUCH!

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January 26, 2022 8:55 pm
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Just donated. No need for a shout out. I’m just glad to jump on a feel good bandwagon. You keep putting them in the comments, and I’ll stay on the bandwagon. Worst, case is what, 320 bucks? I’ll cut extra grass for a couple months.

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January 26, 2022 11:07 pm
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Appreciate the heck out this, Carl!

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January 26, 2022 9:00 pm
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Will, what’s a McNair donation? (Does it involve sitting on your ass?) no really, I have no clue what is this?!?

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January 26, 2022 11:09 pm
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Operation: Money for Charities & Nonprofits As Incompetence Restitution, or Operation M.C.N.A.I.R. for short.

I mentioned it in my preview today but basically I’m donating $10 to a local Sacramento charity every time the Kings lose!

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January 26, 2022 9:52 pm
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Donated! Also no idea what M.C.N.A.I.R. is but it made me feel better about myself wasting time on this terrible team…

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January 26, 2022 11:10 pm
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I appreciate the blind trust! Basically I’m donating $10 everytime the Kings lose to a local charity!

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January 26, 2022 10:04 pm
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Donated to Mustard Seed School Sacramento. Again, great idea Will.

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January 26, 2022 11:11 pm

Appreciate you giving to such a great cause, Jackass! Means the world!

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January 27, 2022 7:25 am
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Omg, haha. I know you were just addressing by his username, but when I read this sentence at first it made me laugh pretty hard!

Appreciate you giving to such a great cause, Jackass!

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January 27, 2022 10:14 am
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Cracks me up, Klam.

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January 26, 2022 11:34 pm
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After stuff like HereWeStay and the billboard I promised my wife not to spend money anymore on a city where I have never been to (YET!), other then my modest TKH contribution.

And I’m a man who keeps at least 50% of his promises, so I can only spend my time promoting this great idea by Will.

So people, spread the word on other Kings sites, Sacramento sites, Facebook, Reddit etc.

Let’s make rooting for Kings losses a positive thing!

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January 27, 2022 4:07 pm
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you’ve never even been to Sac?! You could have picked any NBA team and yet you not only chose the Kangz but also are one of the most loyal and vocal members of TKH….have you considered therapy because this could be a sign of severe mental illness! At least the rest of us have Kings loyalty instilled from living in the River City or we used to live there… (Arden Oaks baby!)

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January 27, 2022 7:33 pm
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Same here. Never been to Sac. It’s a to ic relationship.

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January 27, 2022 10:16 pm
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I know.
It doesn’t stop there; also a Cleveland Browns fan…
Never been to Cleveland either.

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January 27, 2022 5:49 am
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Idea for Operation: M.C.N.A.I.R. donations: Use money to buy Warriors gear for young Kings fans that have already suffered enough.

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January 27, 2022 2:08 pm
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Donated to Mustard Seed. Go whoever-the-kings-are-playing.

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January 27, 2022 2:25 pm
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For the people declining shoutouts, that’s definitely cool that you’re humble or don’t need the applause or whatever you would call it. No sarcasm there.

But it might help Will’s Operation for him to be able to tweet out your contributions. The more people seen doing it, the more people might do it next time.

As a compromise, you could provide anonymous screenshots which Will could shoutout as an anonymous donor.

Just my $0.02

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January 26, 2022 7:40 pm

Only lost by 17 after last night’s game. By my calculations, we’re on pace to win the next game by 25 or so. Go Kangz!

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January 26, 2022 7:45 pm

I don’t follow the Kings,
I follow TKH.

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January 27, 2022 9:31 am
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Preach.

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January 26, 2022 7:56 pm

I said it last summer but trades don’t matter, draft picks don’t matter, a new coach doesn’t matter, a new GM doesn’t matter, none of it matters while Vivek owns the team. It can’t be any more clear at this point. I’m sorry. This is the 7th circle of hell and there is absolutely no way out. The Playoff drought will last exactly as long as he owns the team. Once he eventually sells or dies, we will have a chance.

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January 27, 2022 8:09 am

Vivek is the problem.

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January 27, 2022 11:38 am

But it’s NBA 3.0???

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January 27, 2022 4:09 pm

you misplaced the decimal – NBA 0.3

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January 27, 2022 12:51 pm

This is the extremely depressing reality.

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January 26, 2022 8:48 pm

Good game. Kings absolutely needed this loss with both the Spurs and Pacers losing tonight. Now they can take some time to figure out how to do it again in Philly.

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January 26, 2022 9:02 pm
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Simmons revenge game? After monte gets off his ass and does a trade

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January 26, 2022 9:17 pm

It was nice seeing Bogi play well. Always liked him as a player. Enough to buy a jersey, just before they didn’t re-sign him. Last year I didn’t care if the trade deadline came and went without a deal. This year seems a lot more critical that something/anything gets done. For the players, for the franchise, for the future.

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January 26, 2022 9:58 pm
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Every year is critical. Every year every team is either progressing or getting passed. There are exactly zero reasons for any team with any kind of ambition to sit on their hands.

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January 27, 2022 9:30 am

Maybe Vivek thought he’s been putting out a garbage product for so long that kings fan don’t care and will continue to support the team….well, I think he’s reached the end of the fans patience

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January 26, 2022 10:28 pm

Why is my post pending approval?
Is that normal?

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January 26, 2022 10:50 pm
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Huh? It was visible for a minute and then gone again?!

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January 26, 2022 10:58 pm
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You’ve been traded to the Celtics Courier, sorry you had to find out like this

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January 26, 2022 11:01 pm
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LOL.

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January 27, 2022 2:19 am
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This is why I’m here.

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January 26, 2022 10:32 pm

Tanque por Banchero

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January 26, 2022 10:40 pm

What you dont understand is that there is plenty of time. And they are talented when they go in their bag. You can even get two for a dollar and everything but the basket. Put some jelly on it and bang bang bang. …. kayte jones-draper.

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January 27, 2022 7:06 am
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The only thing worse than the team is the broadcast !

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January 27, 2022 10:56 am
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Don’t forget to steal some cornbread and stack defensive possessions!

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January 27, 2022 11:54 am
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Stop playing with your food.

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January 27, 2022 12:38 pm
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What I don’t understand is what your trying to say, lady. “two for a dollar”??? “Jelly on it…”???

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January 26, 2022 10:41 pm

I swear to NBA Jesus that without this site there would be nothing. Years of miserable sucktitude would be for nought without this place and the prior work on a former one that won’t be mentioned. The Kings organization is on life support and TKH is the Iron Lung. It goes without saying the work you guys do is top notch. Thank you.

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January 27, 2022 5:18 am
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This team is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WOTHOUT ITS FANS so the ownership, front office and the players better start acting accordingly…

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January 27, 2022 7:35 am
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And V*x is nothing without the original team of writers/members!

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January 26, 2022 10:59 pm

SuperTeam, just middle-aged and fat

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January 26, 2022 11:45 pm

Thank you for the recap. Or is it re-crap? Look, I get the anger, frustration, and the overall confusion that most of us feel. However, we have expiring contracts and potentially great draft capital going forward. I get that most would love a major shake up. But maybe Monte should play the long game. Just a thought.

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January 27, 2022 8:16 am
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Yes next year it will be different for sure.

But maybe Monte should play the long game.

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January 27, 2022 9:34 am
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NEXT YEAR IS PLAYOFFS OR BUST! Or was it this year? I can’t keep up with all of the kangZ ambitions

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January 27, 2022 8:34 am
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He was hired 2 years ago. It’s the long game at this point.

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January 27, 2022 1:27 am

The franchise so bad, The Athletic doesn’t even bother paying someone to cover them, they just have Sam Amick take care of it.

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January 27, 2022 2:21 am
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Ladies and gentlemen your Washington Generals.

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January 27, 2022 8:35 am
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Sam must have lost some office politics war with Shams Charania to earn such a fate.

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January 27, 2022 2:22 am

Pretty sure Luke wasn’t the problem.

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January 27, 2022 4:15 am

Pretty sure he wasn’t part of the solution either.

There isn’t just ONE problem; it starts at the top and then trickles down into each level of the organization.

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January 27, 2022 5:02 am

at least Walton did not lose by 50+ / 30+ in consecutive games…

I mean the first 10 games with a lineup of
Fox, Hali, Harkless, Barnes, Holmes, the defense is not that bad…

Once Bagley is in the lineup…the whole team defense collapsed…….

All I wanted to bring out is we need some defensive stopper in the starting 5 !!!!!!!!!!

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January 27, 2022 6:07 am

My only regret is that this team did not lose by even more. Screw these guys, I hope they lose by 50 every night.

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January 27, 2022 7:08 am

Kings getting Viveked every nite !

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January 27, 2022 7:20 am

If only we would have taken the advice of this forum we’d have Nesmith and Romeo for HB right now, who has exceeded his “peak” value from last season, if only the GM would have “sold high” and gotten his hands on marginal rotational players. How the hell would that have helped you?

Peanut Gallery was looking to swap oragnic pistachios for moldy peanuts then try to tell you the latter provided better sustainance and nourishment.

Look at Kuzma, the guy is legit fire. Great rebounder and facilitator out from under the shadow of LeBron. Kuzma, despite the punchable face, is exactly what we need, a big dynamic wing. He has a shaky three ball, but unlike Buddy Yield, the worst rotational player in the NBA, enabled by the worst coach in the NBA, Fluke 2.0, Kuzma does a lot on the floor to help you when the shot is off.

How many pundits were clammering for his acquisition before the runmored trade? McGenius had Kuzma on his radar and that deal was done before the player / GM intervened.

Harrell was inquiring into new homes in the SAC market, thats how far along the trade had come. If that goes down, the whole dynamic and fortunes of the team change.

Unless you were advocating a Buddy for Kuzma swap, settle down get your popcorn and enjoy the show. McGenius about to do work.

If we are going to blow it up we better get a dominant scorer for Fox, one primary scorer for another. The pundits pushing for a Fox for Simmons are clueless and last two games are an indication. Unless Ty is 25 PPG, our offense dries up. Marvin and Buddy are useless scrubs when we need shot creation from them.

Something feels off about the Fox injury. Ankle soreness, huh? When did he twist it, when was he hobbled? Any video of a limp or twist? I didn’t see it.

The most likely trade if you set aside the rhetoric, which is what I do, because I do not do 280 characters or less is Sabonis for Fox. Who knows as to the other components. Of course we would love a Brown for Fox trade, maybe something does come out of nowhere. Just like the draft, the announced rumor is less likely than the unannounced deal before the announcement.

The Pacers could build around Fox, Duarte and Isaiah Jackson. Shooter next to Fox and an elite athlete and floor runner in Jackson. Fox would also put butts in the seats over there. They would probably want to keep Turner to help Fox play better point of attack defense with shot blocker behind him. They would also want to move Brogdon.

From our side, we replace one primary scorer with another. Our core thereby becomes Davion, Ty and Sabonis, and we build out from here. The passing and IQ and the balance of the roster takes a leap forward. The trade should come with assurances of an extension, to lock in Sabonis until he’s 30 years old.

Trading Fox is not a repudiation on him. It is an affirmation of your belief in Davion and Ty, and high regard and eseteem with which you hold a player like Sabonis. And primary comparison is the effeciency and lethality as a scorer, since this is what Fox does best. Sabonis can NOT create his shot like Fox, but he makes an incrdible 64% of his 2s, projects as lethal pick and roll player with Ty, and can give you as many assists as Fox. Fox averages 5.2 assists to Sabonis 4.9 assists. Sabonis has a career defensive rebound rate of 26% compared to Holmes 21%. Holmes becomes expendable in a deal for Sabonis. We would need more size and rim protection and perimeter shooter than Holmes can provide.

Look at the tone Davion set checking Young to start the game. He was doing a spectacular job disrupting him, checking him high, delaying the intiation of the offense. I was saying since BEFORE the season began, Davion should be our starter and last night showed the exact reason why!

This is another case of not really knowing what we have, drawing false conclusion based on incompetent hangover-fueled coaching. Has Davion even played against Trae before? You would expect him to get burned in his first or second outing, instead he played against him like he knew all his tricks and tendencies….beautiful!

Even when Fox “recovers” and presuming NO deal, why would we not start Davion with Fox, slide Ty to the 3 and see what kind of havoc we can create?

Didn’t the Booze Hound say he has tried everything? He hasn’t tried this!

The Old Man has plans to go nowhere because “he’s no quitter”. Someone ought give him permission to quit. If he could see past his self interest and paycheck, he would see he’s been an utter fail, a mirror image of the man who got fired for far less.  This has been our GMs fatal error, his one and only real error in my view.  He replaced a coach who deserved to be fired with a doppleganger, a cosmetic change that exacerbated our problems after the novelty of a new voice wore off.

Did not our Princenton grad and Morey disciple not know the Interim was going to ride and die with Buddy and Marvin, implement a plan that epitmozes insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result?

How come the Old Man is immune from criticism, beyond reproach on these boards? It is a rhetorical question, I know the answer. The Old Man lacks the vitality and mental acuity to be in charge given the reigns at a time when the season still could have been saved.  Doug could have saved the season. Vivek was right, intuition over left brain hive mind FTW.

McGenius knows he made an unforced error, would love to announce a coaching change when he announces our pending personnel change(s). This interim pretender & crowd sourcer is going to lead us to some sort of miraculous finish, even if we do get an infusion of complementary talent in the next couple of weeks?

What is Gentry going to do except write vapid numbers on his chalk board, 36-66, and 116-115, then moan and whine to the sympathetic media after his team fails to rally from a 30 point deficit?

“Hey guys, I have an idea, we need to go down by 30, the old rope-a-dope, then we will win by one at the buzzer! All we need is a four point play with one second left!”

The Old Man cited the Clippers incredible comeback as example of never quitting, never giving up. That is a terrible example because those type of comebacks happen 0.01% of the time and going down by 30 points should never happen. Gentry used an extreme outlier to try to make his point. An unintentional message was received by the team, they did go down by 30 points, they just forgot the comeback part.

Nice coaching, clown, time for another drink.

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January 27, 2022 7:49 am
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Seriously, booze hound?

Surely we as adults can elevate the discourse a bit higher than this.

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January 27, 2022 8:10 am

Yeah, I called him on that b.s. a few days ago. For me, it ruins anything constructive he might have written.

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January 27, 2022 8:20 am
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I’m just getting tired of seeing people treat every discussion like a proving ground for playground insults and general meanness. Just recently I got called out on a different discussion board where someone was loudly complaining of how R-word their kitchen appliances were and I asked, what is this, middle school? Somehow expecting a group of people I can only assume were all older than me discussing pros and cons of kitchen design to maintain a level of discourse higher than 5th grader in the late 90s is just too much, I suppose.

The adults who seem to wonder why younger people are so “messed up” are the same ones who are completely lacking in the self-awareness that their behavior is what’s being modeled back at them.

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January 27, 2022 8:24 am

Agreed 100%

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January 27, 2022 8:40 am

Yep. Crap in, crap out.

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January 27, 2022 10:05 am

You got called out for calling someone out?

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January 27, 2022 12:58 pm

To me, it’s just internet interaction. When I remember, I try to not type anything I wouldn’t say to the person if they were standing three front in front of me. That eliminates a lot of trash comments I feel inclined to make.

A LOT of people on the internet don’t do that. They know the person can’t knock them out if they act the fool.

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January 27, 2022 3:31 pm
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I move that everyone use their real name.

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January 27, 2022 9:41 am

What’s wrong with booze hound? Gentry basically gave himself the label

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January 27, 2022 10:18 am
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I think it’s a gross overreach to take the sarcastic (or honest) comments from a coach of a struggling team who says he needs a shot of whisky after a lousy game to then conflating the statement to say (not suggest) that he has a drinking problem.
The imagery of the “booze hound” is of a lazy drunkard. It’s obviously demeaning and doesn’t add anything constructive to K4ever’s analysis, which I enjoy reading.
In other words, even as a joke, it is just not funny. My analysis.
If K4ever can’t take that criticism, then how can we take him seriously in his criticisms of Gentry or anyone else?
Critique Hield or Bagley or anyone in a 900 word essay any day of the week (and I’ll read it. I don’t mind the length), but adding insults doesn’t help your case. Their performance says it all.
I don’t get why people don’t understand how insults can be a turnoff and really don’t add anything to an argument.
It’s another way of creating “the other,” a sort of subhuman who is worthy of hate.
We get enough of that through the media right now. Hate to see it here.

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January 27, 2022 10:22 am

Well stated.

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January 27, 2022 10:41 am

There actually could be consequences for labeling a public figure that way. I’m surprised it’s still allowed.

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January 27, 2022 1:41 pm
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This is America Marty. Criticizing a public figure will always be allowed without consequence.

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January 27, 2022 8:07 am
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Ok, now I’m really starting think this is parody.

Doug could have saved the season. Vivek was right, intuition over left brain hive mind FTW.

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January 28, 2022 5:42 am
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Lol it’s comically pathetic. 🍿

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January 27, 2022 8:12 am

Ham was on 1320 saying the Fox injury is mysterious and not sure when it happened. I saved myself 3 hours by skipping last night’s game, but was wondering if there was any video of Fox from yesterday or Tuesday showing any sort of limp/discomfort/anything??

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January 27, 2022 8:21 am
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It kind of reminds me of the medical staff/team last year when they said Bagley had a “right foot injury.” but never actually disclosed what it was. Then they just shelved him.

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January 27, 2022 8:26 am
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I don’t see any advantage from hiding an injury. If he’s seriously hurt or wants out, it’s going to come out in trades. It’s already been too long to hold him out for a pending trade. I figure he’s actually hurt, and maybe being a little conservative with it since he’ll likely be elsewhere in a couple weeks, where they’ll expect him to be better than he has been this season.

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January 27, 2022 8:42 am
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Or he has a very minor “injury” that players usually just shrug off and play through (e.g. a bruise), but he’s milking it for all it’s worth because why bother suiting up at this point? If true, it would be an indictment of both the team as a whole and Fox as an individual.

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January 27, 2022 5:14 pm
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It may have happened over the past few months, while he was playing basketball, and having the shit knocked out of him on no-call after no-call.

James Ham is befuddled! It’s a conspiracy far too complex for anyone other than New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison to comprehend!

“Mysterious.” You could fertilize every field in Kansas with that much crap.

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January 27, 2022 10:29 am

I took a peek at Tankathon this morning, first time in quite a while. The Kings, if they continue at this torrid pace, have a legit chance at a top 2 or 3 pick.

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January 27, 2022 10:40 am
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Absent of ping pong ball luck, I don’t see them cracking the bottom four. For example, the Kings have lost 8 of their last 10, but OKC (the 4th worst team) has dropped 9 of their last 10. 5th worst is not out of the question, though.

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January 27, 2022 12:35 pm
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Still, you gotta figure that if the Kings are this bad while trying to win games, maybe they can kick it down a notch by working to lose them.

*watches Kings go on a thirty-game win streak*

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January 27, 2022 5:10 pm
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They will fail at failing.

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January 27, 2022 7:07 pm
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if you ping pong ball into the 5th pick And if you trade Barnes and buddy and Bagley and Holmes Now, you’d have 2-4 future first round picks in your return for those trades to allow yourself the draft capital to move up and get the #1,2,3 pick.

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January 27, 2022 11:52 am

Love the headline, it really gets to the heart of it.

Maybe take the site offline for a couple of days, and have the landing screen say “Closed due to lack of interest, passion, and professional-level basketball. We expect to reopen one day before the 2022 NBA draft.”

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January 27, 2022 3:57 pm

Thread Jack: Last ratings period- ESPN 1320 ratings were twice KHTK’s ratings…

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January 27, 2022 5:23 pm
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Good. KHTK is awful. Where can we see these ratings?

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January 28, 2022 8:54 am

There is a radio industry website: allaccess.com

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January 28, 2022 12:34 am

Went to my first game in ’87 so I have seen the highs (not so many) and the lows (many). It is just mind boggling that a team can remain this inept for this long with a BILLIONAIRE owner. Ranadive is not a sports person, he just wanted a seat at the owners table. Vivek, you cannot run the Kings like your software company, apples and oranges. If you want to own a sports team please only do so because you are a competitor at heart and will do what it takes to win. Treating a professional team as just a bottom line red/black situation is a horrible way to go about it and Sacramento deserves so much better. Please reconsider your philosophy or sell the team to someone who gives a sh1t!

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