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30Q: Where are the Small Forwards?

While Monte McNair says the roster is balanced and versatile, his moves have done little to bring in true forward depth.
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Credit: Kyle Terada-USA TODAY Sports

“Can he play small forward?” Unfortunately for the Sacramento Kings roster, the answer for most of the roster is no. Certainly, the Kings will try playing many nontraditional 3s at the 3 spot, and like last year they may find some answers that work. But when Monte McNair spoke to the media last week, he argued the roster had “good balance” – “I look at our roster and I see a lot of versatility, guys that can slide, slide up, slide down, and really give us different looks.” It’s true that the Kings guard lineup looks versatile, and the roster has a ton of big men for Luke Walton to work with. But the lack of traditional small forwards, arguably the most important and versatile position in the modern game, leaves a ton to be desired for a playoff hopeful squad, and limits their ability to truly “slide up and slide down.”

The Kings have starter Harrison Barnes – who spent more time at the 4 spot last year, according to Cleaning the Class – along with veteran Moe Harkless and Louis King. Harkless’ defensive intensity and toughness was a welcome addition last year, and Louis King shined enough potential in Las Vegas to warrant some real optimism headed into training camp (I captain the Lo King bandwagon)… but that’s it for 6’6-6’9 dudes with the speed to guard other traditional forwards. You could argue Robert Woodard II could play the 3 spot, but until Woodard proves that terrible Summer League stint was a fever dream, he doesn’t seem likely to deserve any minutes.

Much could be made about my use of “traditional” when talking about lineups, as the Kings may have plenty of potential with their hopeful three guard lineups. But while it’ll be interesting to see Tyrese Haliburton or Davion Mitchell play up on defense (and less interesting to see Buddy Hield do it again), the hypothetical of that lineup isn’t backed up by the option to do a ton else. Last season, Luke Walton’s closing three-guard lineup of De’Aaron, Tyrese, Hield, Barnes, and Richaun Holmes was celebrated because it put the Kings best five players on the court – and while that lineup was promising, I’d argue it was one born out of necessity, the best of what the Kings roster had to offer. The Kings went all in one three-guard lineups when they drafted Davion Mitchell. And 4 months later, a whole offseason gone by, the only additional forward McNair has brought in is… Emanuel Terry, on a training camp contract?

Indeed, of the 18 players that McNair has drafted or signed (to non-training camp or non-10 day contracts) since taking over this roster last year, only 5 are traditionally sized enough to play the small forward spot – Woodard, Harkless, King (a two-way contract), Glenn Robinson (gone midseason last year), and DaQuan Jeffries (gone midseason).

And while sticking positions may not matter as much anymore, it’s a sad fact that Kings have decently less depth at small forward-sized dudes, or dudes who can guard traditionally sized small forwards, than all but one of the Western Conference playoff teams last year. The Suns had Mikal Bridges, Jae Crowder, and Cam Johnson. Utah had Joe Ingles, Bojan Bogdanovic, and Royce O’Neal. The Lakers’ most used lineup was LeBron, two bigs, and two guards, but LeBron is a cheat code (plus they had Kyle Kuzma, as well as Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, who would absolutely be a small forward in Sacramento). Outside of Paul George and Kawhi Leonard, the Clippers had Nicolas Batum and Marcus Morris. The Mavericks had Luka Doncic, Tim Hardaway, Josh Richardson, and Josh Green. The Nuggets had Michael Porter, Will Barton, and PJ Dozier, and added Aaron Gordon (who, like Barnes, can play either spot) midseason. The Grizzlies had Dillon Brooks, Kyle Anderson, and Justise Winslow. Honestly, the only Western Conference playoff squad with arguably similar forward depth last year was the Trail Blazers, and they had Robert Covington and Derrick Jones Jr. Does a Barnes, Harkless, and King lineup have an advantage against any of those 3-man rotations?

Given the demand for strong forwards across the league, it’s true that adding small forward depth isn’t easy. But as McNair heads into his second full year on the job, the results will have to speak for themselves. At arguable the most important and versatile position in the modern game, the Kings are definitely lacking, and are a Moe Harkless injury – or basketball gods forgive, a Harrison Barnes injury – away from being in real trouble. The versatility of the Kings guards may hint at playoff hopes, and the big man rotation is deep in terms of both bodies and question marks – but the Kings are truly gambling with their lack of forward depth, and they’re leaving it up to Luke Walton to produce a winning hand.

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September 27, 2021 10:31 am

The Kings are thin at the wing, which seems to be something of a tradition now. I do like the potential of King, who I do feel has the talent to be an NBA player, and ought to see a lot of time so that he can be properly evaluated. Harkless can eat minutes, defend very well, and while never a one, two, or three option on offense, certainly doesn’t hurt you on that end.

Hield does have descent size and excellent strength to handle a lot of wings, but unless his defense takes a step forward, he’s not ideal against the more talented wings in the league. I’d guess that Haliburton simply isn’t strong enough at the moment to regularly get SF minutes, but over the course of his career? I think that he’s a good bet to add enough weight to harass opponents, and once you factor in his excellent defensive instincts, he could be serviceable at the three.

Who do you like as possible options at SF, either in trade, or potential free agents next summer? Yes, yes, Simmons would be great, if the cost doesn’t include Fox or Haliburton. With Simmons’ offense, you have to hang onto guys who can score.

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September 27, 2021 11:03 am
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Maybe not a long-term, potential All-Star SF of the future, but I am high on Lonnie Walker IV.

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September 27, 2021 3:09 pm
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So theoretically what does a deal for someone like Lonnie Walker look like? Can’t imagine Spurs are just giving him away. Curious what we think the Kings would have to give up.

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September 27, 2021 3:15 pm
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This isn’t directed at you WiszSox, because maybe that specific deal isn’t realistic, but there’s an element of “McNair can’t do anything, because doing something is too difficult” that doesn’t strike me as a good reason, or even a good excuse.

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September 27, 2021 3:32 pm
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I get that sentiment, because we want action and results, but I think sometimes we just throw ideal names out there and are like “why won’t Monte get a deal done?” Personally I’m encouraged that in the deals that supposedly were on the 1 yard line, Bogi and Buddy, I think the return on those was pretty decent considering circumstances. Personally I’m also happy that Fox and Hali appear off the table in Simmons discussions.

Again that counts for nothing, but it’s at least an indicator for me of where he is at when constructing a larger deal.

It’s not an excuse and at the end of the day or 3 years, we evaluate him on the results. To me it’s still 12 months into his tenure.

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September 28, 2021 8:35 am
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Agree on the Bogi deal, and the Buddy deal seemed to mostly be a salary dump, but I would have taken it, and it was preferable to wasting an asset on Tristan Thompson. But neither got done, likely not due to the actions of the front office.

I see it as we’re two offseasons and a deadline in, and the reality is that the front office has maintained the bad core Vlade Divac assembled. They’re in some space between “being disciplined,” being passive and just getting nothing done, a lot more toward the latter, in my opinion.

My hope comes from moving some these players out in favor of (hopefully) better ones. If the team performs as expected, the heat is going to rise on this front office to (finally) take a chance, and that’s the best hope for this season and the future of the team.

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September 27, 2021 3:52 pm
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It takes 2 to tango. It’s why Simmons is somehow still in Philly

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September 27, 2021 11:19 am
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I’ve been a fan of his since before he was drafted. LWIV is such a unique mix of skills and athleticism, he’s tough to put into a box, but he’d be great to plug in at SF.

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September 27, 2021 12:52 pm
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I think Monte missed his opportunity this past summer to solidify the SF depth. One example is Reggie Bullock, who is a legit 3 and D wing, took the MLE to go to Dallas, while Monte chose to spend 30% of the Kings MLE on Len, after he had made the trade for TT. Just a head scratching move, IMO. Hell, the Mavs even got Sterling Brown into their bi-annual exception while the Kings haven’t even bothered to use theirs.

That’s two 3 and D wings signed just on one team this summer onto deals that the Kings could have offered, but I guess Monte was more focused on centers.

As to a trade this year, I have no clue, Aaron Nesmith? Miles Bridges? Maybe he can find someone who is buried on another team’s bench.

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September 27, 2021 3:18 pm
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So if your Reggie Bullock, would you take the Full MLE to go to Dallas or the Kings?

I could see if he was gotten for less than the MLE, but it seems pretty obvious why the Kings might not have gotten him in this situation.

Until the Kings turn a corner they aren’t getting free agents when offering comparable money very often. Thus you have to over spend for middling FA’s and the last 4-5 years have taught us that lesson I think. I prefer this model to that, even if it’s not sexy.

And yes the in between road (Nesmith/Bridges as mentioned) would be best of all, but that is a tough nut to crack.

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September 27, 2021 11:00 am

Two minutes ahead. 4 v 5. A new kind of balance. Why not fucking just build a team like all good teams to and not pretend you know more than others and try to bullshit the fans with ridiculous rhetoric.

The Kings don’t realize that what they think is smart is actually idiotic. Oh, and keep a terrible coach and don’t tinker with this championship roster. I’m sure it’ll all work out.

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September 27, 2021 11:31 am
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The thing is, they know they can bullshit the fans with impunity.

People keep coming back, and even if not, who cares? The value of the franchise keeps rising, key people keep getting paid whether they improve the team or not. Happy times!

It will be great to hear Kayte tell us what we don’t understand. Always happy to be educated.

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September 27, 2021 3:07 pm
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Definitely a bummer that Sac won’t fight back and Vivek takes advantage.

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September 27, 2021 3:24 pm
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People keep coming back, and even if not, who cares? The value of the franchise keeps rising, key people keep getting paid whether they improve the team or not. Happy times!

In all seriousness, do you think that Vivek/management/coaches have this attitude? They don’t care about winning, the fans and aren’t trying to actively win? Just because someone isn’t successful (TBD with Monte) doesn’t mean that don’t give a shit about the fan base and aren’t doing what they think is best for future success.

Doesn’t guarantee them a job if/when not successful and some may disagree with their current tactics, but it also doesn’t make them inherently callous towards fans.

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September 27, 2021 4:14 pm
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No, sir. They simply must all be evil, singularly, and as a conspiracy. That’s why people choose careers in professional sports; to fuck over their fan bases.

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September 28, 2021 9:02 am
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In all seriousness, do you think that Vivek/management/coaches have this attitude? They don’t care about winning, the fans and aren’t trying to actively win?

I won’t say that they flat out don’t care, but the non-childish answer is that it’s entirely possible that the primary focus is on cash (Hi Luke Walton) and team value, and that may be coming at the expense of winning games. The team has never operated above the cap in the years Vivek has been owner, and it’s been long enough that it’s reasonable to believe that’s not a coincidence.

As to what Rik actually said:

People keep coming back, and even if not, who cares? The value of the franchise keeps rising, key people keep getting paid whether they improve the team or not. Happy times!

Obviously there’s a lot we don’t know, but I don’t see what looks like urgency to win from anyone in the Kings organization above the players and possibly the coaching staff. The subpar head coach is still here, no current or future cap flexibility has been created, and Vlade Divac’s 35 win core from 2018-19 is still in place, plus two draft picks. A bad team with few core changes over time looks like a lack of urgency.

I keep hoping these things change. The good news is we’re approaching the point (this year’s deadline and/or offseason) where the front office, whether they’re “being disciplined,” being passive, stuck in a cash quagmire, or something worse, is going to have to resist an awful lot of pressure and criticism to continue to stand pat.

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September 27, 2021 11:37 am
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Are you reading vivek’s personal journal again??

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September 27, 2021 3:11 pm
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Ha. Yes. He also had a note in there about always hiring a coach before a GM and shaking things up to make it seem like he knows something.

Fire a coach or 2 who are good and keep a coach who is bad, just to keep everyone thinking.

Unfortunately, this team still appears rotten at the core. No foundation. Yourrr Sacramento Sinkholes.

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September 27, 2021 11:11 am

Marvin Bagley (at the 3)

Just kidding, he kinda sucks

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September 27, 2021 11:22 am

guys that can slide, slide up, slide down, and really give us different looks.

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September 27, 2021 11:28 am

Happy Media Day everyone! Season’s just around the corner. Hope that there will be a Media thread here on TKH when it kicks off at 1:00pm. 🙂

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September 27, 2021 11:29 am

But we are loaded at the pivotal plodding backup center position. Stop the complaining

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September 27, 2021 11:46 am

Wow, NBA media day is gonna be “interesting”!

https://twitter.com/RealQuintonMayo/status/1442554939612360711?s=20

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September 27, 2021 11:51 am
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“I would ask the question to those who are supposedly world-class basketball players ‘why can’t your teams get out of the second round?’

-sims

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September 27, 2021 12:34 pm
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I would ask the question to those who wear seatbelts and drive cars with airbags, “Why are you still getting in car accidents?”

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September 27, 2021 12:09 pm
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Okay, if you were to bet on a King who wouldn’t get vaccinated, who would it be?

I’m gonna go Hield.

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September 27, 2021 12:20 pm
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There’s a pretty reliable formula for this sort of thing:

Mentioning Jesus/
interviews, etc. =
scientific illiteracy

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September 27, 2021 12:51 pm
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Fox or Hield.

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September 27, 2021 12:55 pm
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What I want to know is why do the home teams in S.F. and N.Y. have to have their players vaccinated to play, but will let visiting players not be vaccinated? Has that been explained somewhere that I missed?

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September 27, 2021 1:03 pm
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Lol, that pretty defeats the whole point of the mandates in the arenas.

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September 27, 2021 1:07 pm
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Right, so the Nets will let a visiting Wiggins play, but not their own Irving, while the Warriors will let a visiting Irving play but not their own Wiggins!

If they just made things consistent folks might be able to accept it more.

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September 27, 2021 1:48 pm
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September 27, 2021 1:06 pm
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Read Ziller’s take on it from today’s GMIB. Ultimately, it’s on Adam Silver to put his foot down.

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September 27, 2021 1:07 pm
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Thanks, I’ll check it out.

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September 28, 2021 7:26 am
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At what point does the Players Association need to show actual leadership ! They are the problem !

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September 28, 2021 8:11 am
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Scab? Or capitalist?

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September 27, 2021 12:34 pm
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My God.

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September 27, 2021 1:01 pm
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Well, that settles it. Can’t acquire Bradley Beal. Our team has low enough (BB)IQ as it is.

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September 27, 2021 1:27 pm
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QNBA

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September 27, 2021 1:30 pm
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I heard some dudes got enlarged testicles from the shot
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Turn to the left and cough!comment image

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September 27, 2021 9:16 pm
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Daily Labyrinth references should be mandatory…..

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September 27, 2021 1:43 pm
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Meanwhile, WNBA players are making special jerseys promoting vaccination and volunteering at vaccine drives.

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September 27, 2021 3:17 pm
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I would ask, why are people so dumb-lack critical thinking? No one said you won’t get Covid if you are vaccinated Bradley.

And Don’t worry your little head by thinking about pesky little things like hospitalization and death.

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September 27, 2021 5:30 pm
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This is an extremely superficial view, posits a linear relationship and, as such, assumes that a virus vaccine is designed to prevent all infections. No, the vaccine is crafted to reduce serious infection with that virus, manifested by hospitalization or death. and, even this is not always successful. There is a biology at work here: there are no treatments for viruses, only preventive methods, vaccines being the most valuable. Viruses can circumvent prevention methods, not always but sometimes.
The answer Brad is that there are no perfect prevention methods. On the other hand, why are the un-vaccinated getting more infections, worse infections and experience more hospitalizations and deaths.
You are a good free throw shooter- why do you still miss?

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September 27, 2021 7:04 pm
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You are a good free throw shooter- why do you still miss?

Rec’d

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September 28, 2021 8:12 am
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Concur.

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September 27, 2021 12:59 pm

A: Philadelphia

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September 27, 2021 1:30 pm

I am just not seeing the optimism some folks are. I look at the roster, it’s odd make up and all, and see about 35 wins or so.

Also, am I the only one not completely drinking the Mitchell Kool-Aid? I mean, I love the work ethic and all but does not an undersized upper classmen who didn’t learn how to shoot until his senior year of college raise some concerns about how much of his game will translate? Yeah, nice summer league but I see some Justin Jackson type markers here (who I got overly excited about! lol!)

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September 27, 2021 1:37 pm
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Waves.

Hi!

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Serve it up! I’m in!

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Labyrinth AND House Party references in one day? Who are you Gonzo? And how can we get this you to stay?

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September 27, 2021 1:44 pm
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I’m still taking the over on Mitchell. Jackson is an odd comp, except for the NCAA tittle win as a senior, but he didn’t have a signature skill, and didn’t have an NBA body. Jason Kidd didn’t figure out how to shoot until his thirties. I get that we’ve heard the same B.S. before about work ethic and all. The Kings front office is for pathological liars, but I like him in spite of all that.

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September 27, 2021 1:47 pm
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Oh Yeah! 1951 I meant to say I totally understand your reluctance.

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September 27, 2021 1:48 pm
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100% with you. The list of seniors in college who excel in the NBA is very small and shrinking.

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September 27, 2021 1:59 pm
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WARNING: Past performance may not be indicative of future results.

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September 27, 2021 2:11 pm
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True, but I have a degree in History. I find it valuable to learn from.

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September 27, 2021 2:15 pm
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I flunked History in high school and had to take it again.

I guess it’s true what they say about being doomed to repeat it.

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September 27, 2021 2:57 pm
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In high school, I got C’s in chemistry and algebra II when I probably should’ve failed.

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True high school chemistry story:

I was pretty excited about the class, but between my disinclination to do any work, and the math (Moles? 6.02214076×10²³?), I was over my head.

Four of my friends and I sat in a clump toward the back, and two of them had a really good handle on things, so I would sit kind of sideways in my desk/chair during tests, and copy answers on the ones I didn’t know, which I seem to recall, was most of them.

So, the first quarter of class wraps up, the grades come out, and I have an A, and everyone else has a B. I’ll never understand how that happened. Anyway, we cornered the teacher and advocated for the two guys who actually knew the material, and they got bumped up to an A.

So the lesson, I guess, is that if any of you have questions about chemistry, I am here for you.

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I am still doing my own research on history.

Please respect my privacy regarding my browser history.

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September 27, 2021 2:19 pm
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I am just not seeing the optimism some folks are.

Yep, very little optimism for this team to win any more games than the last two (very similar) teams did. I agree that Mitchell’s defense will translate, and I don’t think his offense will, at least not early this season.

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September 27, 2021 2:24 pm
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I think he will have a nice NBA career, but man if you follow local Sacto twitter at all (TKH folks included!), you would expect mini-MJ to stroll out and dominate the world from day one!

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September 27, 2021 3:10 pm
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Yeah, I think Mitchell will be a fine NBA player. I think he’ll pretty quickly be what Cory Joseph was supposed to be. Whether he’s more is going to depend some on his court vision and more on his shot. I don’t think the shot translates right away, and I think he’ll have trouble finishing early on.

I don’t really do the Twitter too much, but I would chalk up the MJ madness to the perpetual motion machine that is Kings fans optimism at the beginning of every season. (Plus, nothing much else has happened to change the team.)

I hang my hat with this team on the players at least being likeable (Haliburton, Holmes, Fox and maybe Mitchell, and no, not you Terence Davis). They’re not better than the Matt Barnes era Kings, but that squad was extremely unlikable (and a case study of how “toughness” does not lead to wins).

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September 27, 2021 4:22 pm
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I’d say that you’re probably right on both fronts. I do think the the roster (as-is) is capable of winning more than thirty-one games in an eighty-two game season, but I don’t know if it gets to forty under the tutelage of Lucas Jackington Walton.

As to Mitchell, he’ll have a sharp learning curve on both sides of the ball. The only way to learn how to defend NBA players is to defend NBA players, so he’ll take some lumps. I don’t have much doubt that he will end up being an elite defender, though. He’s clearly a guy prepared to do what needs to be done.

On offense, fortunately, there won’t be much of a burden on him to get a ton of buckets, so hopefully, he feels no pressure to score whenever he touches the ball. I do think that he’ll become a reliable scorer who can get something like 12 & 7 on a consistent basis. Still, rookie years are hard.

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September 28, 2021 7:59 am
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Yeah I’m with you. People point to him defending Cade in college but it is different defending in the NBA.

idk, like you said, his work ethic, defense and attitude are great but where do you play him? I just don’t know if I believe he can defend bigger guards/wings.

And the roster makeup as a whole? ooo boy it is ugly. I just don’t feel that we are actually a better team than last season. We need a whole lot of internal improvement.

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September 27, 2021 2:24 pm

Not sure if this is a big issue. When the Kings aren’t going with a three guard lineup (with one guard playing small forward) they have Harrison Barnes, arguably in the top half of the NBA starters at this position. Moe Harkness is a veteran back up and Louis King, #3 at the position is thought to have some upside and ceiling. That’s closer to a strength than a weakness. And again, let me bring up the three guard lineup.
If this was typical of all the King’s problems these last few years they wouldn’t have missed the playoffs 15 years in a row.

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September 27, 2021 3:48 pm

Somebody need a SF?

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September 27, 2021 3:53 pm

Wing depth feels a bit thin to me, but not drastically so. I personally am pretty high on Louis King being able to capably fill 15-20 mins a night when needed, or eventually overtake Harkless completely.

You have 3 guys (Barnes, Harkless, King), who can play the 3/4. You have Bagley who is purely a 4 at this point. You have Buddy and Davis who can play up in certain matchups. So I see 6 guys that can fill those 96 mins on any given night and Barnes is taking 35 of them. So 5 guys to chop the remaining 60 minutes. This is disregarding any Fox, Mitchell, Hali trio lineups cutting into that…if that’s deemed playable.

If King can play, I think it’s a mild non issue, at least in terms of Kings on court issues. If not, could be more of one, especially if Barnes goes down.

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September 27, 2021 4:31 pm
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I think the issue is that we tend to want to (or have to) slide players further up the depth chart than they should really be playing, then being disappointed when they can’t actually live up to that level. Harkless, at this point, is a guy you don’t really want to be playing more that 15-ish minutes a night. King is a guy you HOPE might be able to grow into a useful player eventually. But there isn’t much reason to think he’s there now. Throw in guys like Davis, and some extremely high expectations for Mitchell and we see a cycle Kings fans continually go through.

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September 27, 2021 5:16 pm
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I have faith in Louis King…and agree with you that he can fill around 15mins of playing time..plays some defense and hit some 3…

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September 27, 2021 5:36 pm
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Man, wouldn’t it be something if Louis King could become our Khris Middleton.

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September 28, 2021 12:16 am
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That would be awesome…I’ll settle for Cam Johnson 😉

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September 27, 2021 4:09 pm

Does roster construction matter as long as this guy is at the helm?comment image

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September 27, 2021 4:22 pm
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“Alright guys, keep the ball on this side of the sideline.”

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September 27, 2021 4:25 pm
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“Luke Walton is the coach to take the Kings to the playoffs.

“You see, he has a large van with blacked out windows for some reason.”

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September 27, 2021 7:29 pm

Monte talked of versatility.
Bad interpretation: there is no SF and we will have to make do.
Good interpretation: this is an opportunity to embrace the concept of position-less basketball, have thoughtful and engaged coaches who rely on metrics to see and exploit mis-matches and adjust quickly, use a 10 man rotation and stay ahead of the other teams decisions. Similar to the 1974 Warriors.
and surprise the NBA, like this year’s Giants.
Reality- somewhere in between.
There is a lot of hope for Louis King. My goodness ! he is a two way undrafted guy- he will not be the savior. If he plays in the real NBA like he played in LVSL, good but he was the team’s third best player and this was SL.
I am not sure that the head coach can think that fast.
Monte is right though- there is versatility and would be more except for the ill fated TT trade. TT seems redundant and the odd man out. Difficult to see him on the court with Len or Holmes which means he is on the court with Metu, Harkless or Bagley.
I know that Mitchell is redundant but he will play serious defense- not every play but in spurts.
My hope- do what the giants did, my lesser hope- win 41 games . My expectation- around 39-40
Locks- LAL, Utah, Denver, Suns
Questions- LAC, Portland
Hopefuls- duds, Mavs, Memphis and NOP
Spoiler- Kings
Tankathon- Houston, OKC and SAS and Minnesota ( but they don’t know it)
Injuries can play a big role here- there are some teams with no margin for injury.

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September 28, 2021 7:48 am

*Scott Moak Voice*

and starting at Small Forward, out of N/A State University, Number N/A – NaSF!!

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