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Season Review: Harrison Barnes

Barnes has another solid year for the Kings, but questions about his defense and his long term fit with the roster still remain.
By | 36 Comments | Apr 27, 2022

Mar 2, 2022; New Orleans, Louisiana, USA; Sacramento Kings forward Harrison Barnes (40) reacts to a play during the first quarter against the New Orleans Pelicans at Smoothie King Center. Mandatory Credit: Andrew Wevers-USA TODAY Sports

When the Kings acquired Harrison Barnes in 2019, it was with the hope that he could provide a veteran presence at one of the most important positions, Small Forward.  Barnes had disappointed in Dallas where he was signed to a big deal to be a #1 scoring option, but in Sacramento he could instead focus on being a supporting piece.  

It’s safe to say that after three full seasons with the Kings, the Barnes deal has worked out in terms of value, as he has been one of the team’s best players.  Unfortunately, the wins have not come as a result, and now we are left with some big questions as Barnes is set to enter the final year of his contract with the Kings.

Barnes got off to a hot start in the 2021-22 season.  Through his first 11 games, he was scoring 22.5 points on a very efficient 49.7% from the field and 43.5% from three and he also chipped in 8.7 rebounds, 2.7 assists and 1.1 steals. Unfortunately, that hot start wasn’t here to stay. After scoring over 20 points in 8 of his first 11 games, he would only do so twice over his next 27 games, where his averages dipped to 13.5 points on 42% from the field and 41.5% from three. Part of that was a seeming lack of aggression. After the first game of the season in which Barnes scored 36 points, including 8-11 from three, Coach Luke Walton said that he had told Barnes he wanted him shooting eight threes a night.  He would only end up doing that seven times all season, with three of those times being in those first 11 games.  

One of the areas Barnes improved greatly in last season was in getting to the line. The Kings finished the season 5th in free throw attempt rate (up from 20th the year prior), and Barnes was a big reason why.  He shot a career-high 5.4 free throws a game and hit them at an 82.6% rate.  One of the most reliable ways for Sacramento to score points this season was to give Barnes the ball and have him drive to the hoop, where he would either bully his way to the basket or get to the line for free throws.  Barnes has a crafty array of moves, most notably his euro step, but he can also post up smaller players. 

Offense has never really been a worry with Barnes, at least in his Sacramento-era.  We haven’t seen the issues he had in Dallas with overusing Isos or settling for mid-range jumpers. In fact, he’s basically eliminated the mid-range shot from his game, as only 4.8% of his total shot attempts last season came between 10 feet and the 3-point line according to Basketball-Reference.  It’s defense that’s been a struggle, for both him and the Kings. 

The eye-test unfortunately matches the analytics here, as the Kings were almost 7 points per 100 possession better defensively when Barnes was not on the court, and NBA.com also shows that players shot better than league average when guarded by Barnes in every single category.  Part of that is due to Barnes having to play Power Forward.  He’s not as quick as many of the league’s wings, nor as strong as many of the bigs.  The Kings also don’t tend to have a ton of strong defensive personnel around him to help him out.  Still, it seems unlikely that Barnes will become a plus-defender at this point in his career.

One of the big questions going into next season with Harrison is his fit with Domantas Sabonis.  Offensively, the fit seemed very good in the limited time they got to play with each other.  Considering they had no prior experience playing with one another and limited practices, Barnes had some of his best games of the season when playing next to Sabonis. In the first 11 games after the trade in which Sabonis and Barnes both played, Barnes averaged 19.4 points and shot 55.5% from the field and 52.6 from three. He also got to the line 7.5 times a game.  Unfortunately it’s the other side of the court where the biggest questions lie.  Neither Sabonis or Barnes are plus-defenders, and both are among the worst shot blockers at their position; Barnes had just 14 blocks all season and Sabonis just 27. For comparison on how low that is De’Aaron Fox had 25 and Davion Mitchell had 24.  It doesn’t really matter how good they are on one of the court, if they just give it back and then some on the other end.  Getting lucky in this year’s draft and landing someone like Chet Holmgren or Jabari Smith could do wonders here to add someone to make up for their deficiency but as of now I’m skeptical of the long-term fit.

Barnes has just one year left on his deal and thanks to Ken Catanella’s contract magic setting up a declining deal, it’s only for $18.35 million, which is fair value for what Barnes can provide.  Barnes is one of the better assets the Kings have should they be looking to make some big changes this offseason, and there’s a reason his name has been in trade rumors at the deadline for the past couple of seasons.  It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he’s played his last game as a Sacramento King, but he’s a good enough player that if they do end up trading him, they better get someone of value.

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April 27, 2022 12:07 pm

If Barnes is no higher than your 4th best player, you may be a decent NBA team. If he is your 3rd best player it gets a lot trickier. And given the availability of his teammates during his tenure, Barnes has often times been the best or second best player on the floor for the Kings. He is another in a long line of playoff drought Kings that has been (mis)cast in a role that is larger than his impact.

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April 27, 2022 8:18 pm
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I’d add it depends upon your team. Barnes is a great shooter and can drive. But he’s not a good man defender, he doesn’t have the length to content inside of many SF/PFs, and isn’t a great offensive creator (for others). He’d fit very well on a team like the 76ers taking Harris’ place.

But he simply doesn’t make our team better and I think we would be a better team if we replaced him with a longer, more switchable defender who shot 80% as well. And who could potentially be had for a fraction of the cost.

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April 27, 2022 8:50 pm
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Right – who !

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April 28, 2022 11:00 am
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You’re correct. The previous comment was way too simplistic. With two superstars ahead of him, Barnes as your third best player works. With two players like Fox and Sabonis and even a third player of that quality and Barnes being the 4th best player still doesn’t work. For the Kings at this point, I can’t see how Barnes stays and is part of a playoff competitive roster.

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April 27, 2022 12:07 pm

Barnes is fine; not one of the main causes of our problems nor a significant part of the solution.

My fear is that Monte will hang onto Barnes because the Kings are in win-now mode (a pepetual state for the last decade and a half) and we will lose a decent asset for nothing once his deal is up.

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April 27, 2022 12:21 pm
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“I’ve heard that story before.”

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April 27, 2022 5:02 pm
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Yup, I can totally see Monte hanging onto Barnes past the deadline because the Kangz will be gunning for that play-in spot. Once again they will fall short and Barnes will walk for nothing.

That being said, I do think he will have value next deadline to a contender who needs that extra piece. With Joe Harris and Seth Curry being rather redundant on the Nets, I could see a Barnes for Joe Harris swap.

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April 28, 2022 7:07 am
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I like this idea . . . A lot. How about another one. Barnes for Gordon with Denver. Barnes spaces the floor better and can score inside for them too. Gordon would provide less outside shooting but better Defense for us. We’d probably need to throw in a couple of seconds or something but I think it might work.

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April 28, 2022 8:49 am
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Definitely a BIG no to Gordon………….

His contract is bad and long…………..

We need flexibility………………

We need throw big money to try to sign a Superstar level player, and trading for Gordon is a complete waste of salary cap.

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April 28, 2022 8:51 am

Denver’s not dealing Gordon for Barnes, but I guess my question is who is the superstar that we think the Kings can land on FA market, now or even next year?

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April 28, 2022 8:55 am
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In this case, I would rather give a MAX to D. Ayton, then going to get Gordon………..

And I also think Barnes is a better all-round player than Gordon

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April 28, 2022 10:08 am

The Kings can’t max Ayton unless they give Barnes away for nothing and spend all of their cap space on Ayton. Now, look at the teams that have available cap space and ask yourself, which of these teams would be a more attractive outpost for Ayton, and which ones would Ayton prefer to Sac.? Next, ask yourself which of these teams would prefer to onboard Barnes? Also, how do you see Ayton and Sabonis working together? Last but not least, ask yourself if Ayton would sign a 1 yr. deal and test the market again next year as opposed to coming to Sac.

My guess? DeAndre Ayton ain’t coming through that door for a myriad of reasons.

Who else you got?

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April 28, 2022 3:43 am
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He has to be traded. Period. If not I honestly don’t see how that’s nothing less than a failure by Monte. He can be traded for something / someone equally good at the same or different position. It’s simple really.

question: Barnes + the #7 pick moves you up in the draft how many spots? I think two. If Barnes is used to simply move up and get your guy that works too. It’s bad GMing if he’s on the roster for even 1 game next year. Please Monte, don’t be bad. Please Monte, please be good.

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April 28, 2022 8:24 am
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Trading Barnes to move up in the draft isn’t worth it unless it’s Chet imo. Banchero is great but would be a disaster in the frontcourt defensively with Sabonis. Smith I could understand but think he has a dangerously low floor for a guy I’m trading Mr. Reliable for.

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April 28, 2022 10:03 am
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Agree and you can see it coming. He needs to be moved this offseason. There might be a deal with the Warriors available for Wiggins and Moody. Saves the Warriors from huge luxury tax and we get a young prospect.

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April 28, 2022 10:11 am
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That deal isn’t possible for the Kings. More money would have to be outgoing from Sac’s end to make that deal work.

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April 28, 2022 10:24 am
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It works just fine especially when you couple it with the Sabonis and Fox deals I recommended. The pieces are simply not there to try the win now strategy. Sure you can get a little better now by trading some future draft capital but it won’t be significantly better and it won’t be sustainable. One exception is if we get wildly lucky with the draft balls and draft Jabari Smith which is why I said wait for the draft lottery and then proceed. Of course getting the first pick opens up a bunch of new possibilities.

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April 28, 2022 10:53 am
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It works fine for basketball reasons, there’s just one problem: The NBA won’t approve the goddamn trade in the first place.

But you know, you clearly get what I meant obviously.

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April 28, 2022 11:17 am
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Of course there’s some salary fillers involved but that’s not really the point as you know. The point is moving Barnes for a young prospect. If you want it perfect, throw in Len and Holiday and the Warriors save $17 plus million in luxury tax, and don’t significantly weaken their roster.

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April 28, 2022 11:59 am
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If you’re going to propose a trade, at least show me the entire trade please. Otherwise, I’m going to assume you’re a dumbass who doeesn’t understand any of how this works.

I’m not doing that deal for Wiggins or Moody personally. I don’t think either are worth giving up Barnes for. At best it’s a marginal upgrade, and like I’ve said in this thread, I don’t think giving up a good citizen like Barnes in your scenario is worth it.

I get you don’t like the Kings direction, though, and it will run counter to how you see the team should be built. I just don’t think a true rebuild the way you prefer is even feasible at this point.

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April 28, 2022 12:51 pm
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The point of the discussion is to provide a blueprint going forward and how we might use our assets to build a sustainable winning team. In this case utilizing Barnes to secure some young talent. I don’t think a few minor salary fillers which are almost always acquired in significant trades are relevant to the discussion. I sometimes say salary fillers like I did in the Fox trade but again it goes without saying.

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April 28, 2022 2:22 pm
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I don’t think a few minor salary fillers which are almost always acquired in significant trades are relevant to the discussion.

I’m going to agree to disagree. But, I’ll act accordingly.

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April 27, 2022 4:57 pm

Barnes is more useful for a good team where the marginal value of a win or two is much higher. For a team like the Kings, he has more value as a trade chip, IMO.

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April 28, 2022 7:32 am

Barnes to the Nets for their first round pick makes sense, assuming they have expiring salaries that can match Barnes. I think Barnes is the type of player the Nets need if they want this Kyrie – Durant pairing to work.

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April 28, 2022 7:20 am

Kangz fans should be rooting for the Mavs today, a loss and another flameout for the Jazz equates to Snyder likely being let go. If Snyder is available, he’d be my first choice for HC.
Plus, the Jazz will likely begin shaking things up with the roster and although unlikely, perhaps a Donovan – Fox trade happens. I’d be good with Fox and our first round pick for Donovan. I doubt the Jazz do it and maybe not even the Kings given this FO seems higher on Fox than most Kings fans, but who knows. Seems like both players could use a change of scenery to elevate their respective careers.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2022/4/28/23046037/utah-jazz-rebuild-rumors-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert

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April 28, 2022 8:16 am
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Man, I would think that the odds that (a) Snyder is fired and (b) he comes to the Kings is about 1,000,000-1.

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April 28, 2022 9:21 am
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if I’m the Utah Jazz, and obviously am not, I’d trade Gobert before A) trading Mitchell or B) firing Snyder.

Maybe I’m missing something though.

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April 28, 2022 8:37 am

I think what the Kings do with Barnes this off-season will be very interesting. On one hand, I don’t think you trade for a marginal asset upgrade. Which is of no appeal.

On the other hand, if you can go out and get a John Collins or someone like that that might be available for a reasonable price that Sac can realistically pay, it makes sense keeping Barnes. Especially if you draft a player that can replace him or play next to him.

Not all the value of Harrison Barnes is wrapped up in a trade. A lot of, IMO, is that Barnes, like him, love him, hate him or don’t, is a NBA player. A NBA player that can be expected to do a lot of things. Just not the things the Kings need him to do the most like be a star. There’s value in that even if the consensus deems otherwise.

Whether Barnes gets traded or not is a great litmus to see how the Kings FO sees this roster IMO. And my guess, since they will almost assuredly be going after a playoff spot in light of what the Pelicans have done, for instance, and what the Hawks even did to a far lesser degree, is that trading away players isn’t nearly as beneficial as a lot of people make it out to be. There’s been plenty of instances where teams didn’t trade away vets like Barnes in Barnes position and the end result ended up better than the likely trades and the players/assets the team would have received in return.

The grass is not always greener on the other side folks.

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April 28, 2022 8:46 am
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Yep. This is not an addition by subtraction scenario. If you simply remove Barnes from the equation this team just got worse, losing its 3rd best (and most dependable/durable) player. And even if you could make Barnes and his reasonable contract magically disappear, I’m hard-pressed to see what the Kings could realistically do with the cap space to net-net improve the team.

A Collins for Barnes trade, for example, would likely have to include the Kings ’23 pick, perhaps lottery protected for a year. I think that Collins would work very well next to Sabonis, but you’re still left with filling the 2 and the 3 with guys that can spread the floor, so there would be work to be done and not any real money to invest in it. As we have discussed, it is a very narrow path that the Kings have chosen here.

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April 28, 2022 9:16 am
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A Collins for Barnes trade, for example, would likely have to include the Kings ’23 pick, perhaps lottery protected for a year.

That’s a non starter for me. Collins is good, but he’s not that good and just because Atlanta wants to win the trade on paper doesn’t make that Sac’s problem. I don’t think Monte McNair can afford to do that deal, either. It’s way too tilted in Atl’s favor IMO.

But the bigger issue is this as you say:

you’re still left with filling the 2 and the 3 with guys that can spread the floor, so there would be work to be done and not any real money to invest in it.

I suppose I can see a scenario where Terence Davis ends up in that spot and thriving, but nobody believes that even if you think TD is really talented (and I do think that).

I just don’t see how McNair can afford to move both Barnes and the ’23 pick to get Collins. Collins is hurt too much, he’s not an All Star even if he’s a really good player, and Atl has a roster crunch with Hunter, Okowongu, Capela and Collins. They are going to have to make decisions there, and I think McNair can offer up a Holmes/Holiday/Len or Lyles plus the 23 1st to get that done. Maybe you offer both Len and Lyles if the Hawks choose.

Either way, I don’t think Atlanta is in a great bargaining position and Sacramento almost has to walk away than make a deal like that IMO. But….I could be wrong on that too. You just never know what exactly the market is unless you’re talking to everybody in the league which I’m most certainly not. And I never base market value off rumors, either, so there is that, too.

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April 28, 2022 9:37 am
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Harrison Barnes is an asset for the Kings. The recent TeamUSA Barnes is a solid NBA starter level talent on a team with few to have that assignation. He is also an extremely solid citizen- another Kings rarity. There are many holes on this roster – Harrison Barnes is not one of them. Maybe get a high level SF or PF to play with HB.

When I look at roster changes, I would like to see a Head Coach hire first. You can have an idea of the team you want to build, but the interface between GM and Roster is Coach. And some coaches just gel better with certain players.(Look at Denver’s Malone/Cousins as an example). Maybe your new HC has his sights on someone in particular. All of the coaching candidates know the players they want to coach in this League better than us fans and even the GM. Hire your Coach then alter your talent. And, IMHO, you end up keeping Harrison Barnes.

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April 28, 2022 9:51 am

When I look at roster changes, I would like to see a Head Coach hire first. You can have an idea of the team you want to build, but the interface between GM and Roster is Coach. And some coaches just gel better with certain players.(Look at Denver’s Malone/Cousins as an example). Maybe your new HC has his sights on someone in particular. All of the coaching candidates know the players they want to coach in this League better than us fans and even the GM. Hire your Coach then alter your talent. And, IMHO, you end up keeping Harrison Barnes.

I don’t know about the Malone/Cousins relationship really, but outside of that I agree with everything else in this paragraph 100%.

I think an upcoming head coach, say Darvin Ham or Will Hardy or Charles Lee, would prefer to have veterans that they at least know and understand. Especially given the challenges facing the next coach regardless of age and experience.

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April 28, 2022 8:45 am

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April 28, 2022 9:14 am

Free up whatever cap space we can and make Bobby Portis our #1 FA priority…draft one of the wings with our first round pick and we are definitely in the playoffs barring injury

Fox, Davion
DD/TD or TD/DD
Barnes/first rounder
Portis/Lyles
Sab/Jones

That gets it done with a competent coach in the West

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April 28, 2022 10:12 am
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Gets what done? That would be another disaster. The last thing we need to do AGAIN is to overpay for a second or third tier free agent. That’s been tried and has failed miserably multiple times. Jerry Reynolds suggested Portis a few weeks ago and now he’s the trendy name and it would turn out like the Dedmon signing. Tear it down and rebuild. Barnes to the Warriors for Wiggins and Moody or Kuminga which is unlikely.

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April 28, 2022 9:59 am

My message to management and I will be repeating it as we get closer to the draft. DON’T get sucked into instant gratification. This team is multiple years away from being playoff competitive and giving up future draft picks in a effort to win now is the wrong strategy. Barnes should be moved THIS off-season for whatever we can get before we get nothing for him. We should also move Sabonis and Fox for the right deals. Let’s see where the draft balls fall first but if Portland snatches a top 4 or 5 pick, Sabonis to Portland for that pick, Portland’s 2023 first plus Josh Hart as a salary filler will be a good trade for both teams.

As for Barnes, the Warriors need to dump some salary for sure, how about Barnes for Wiggins and Moody. Try for Kuminga or Wiseman and settle for Moody.

Fox should also be moved for the right deal. Perhaps to Boston for Pritchard, Nesmith, 2023 and 2024 first and salary filler perhaps Horford.

Draft Keegan Murray and Duren with our pick and Portland’s pick. Koloko in second round.

Now you have this young exciting roster and a bunch of good draft picks.

Mitchell, Pritchard
Josh Hart, TD
Nesmith, Moody
Wiggins (move at trade deadline as expiring)
Murray, Horford (move at mid season trade deadline)
Holmes (keep because we can’t move), Duren, Koloko

Look at all these future draft picks

own 2023 first, Portland’s 2023 first, Boston’s 2023 first,
own 2024 first, Boston’s 2024 first

Something like this should be the blueprint moving forward. They will struggle being so young but be very exciting to watch and watch getting better.

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