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Kings Pulse: Chasing after Pascal Siakam w/ Louis Zatzman

A Raptors cover joins the show to talk about Siakam as a player and his current value.

Pascal Siakam has been mocked to the Sacramento Kings a ridiculous amount of times over the past month. For some insight on Siakam from someone who watches him much more than most Kings fans, I brought on Louis Zatzman, who covers the Toronto Raptors for Raptors Republic.

To start, we touched on just how good Pascal Siakam is at basketball at 27 years old. Louis runs down his crucial role on that championship roster that is still just in the recent past. Siakam has the ceiling to be one of the best defensive players in the league with his versatility, something that Sacramento would greatly benefit from.

On offense, however, Louis explained how much Siakam benefits from playing alongside another creator - as seen with Kawhi Leonard. Could De'Aaron Fox be that guy for him?

Everyone knows about the Raptors being forced to play their home games in Tampa Bay, Florida this season, but was what other reasons caused Pascal to have somewhat of a down year? Is there any concerns revolving around the surgery on his torn labrum in his left shoulder that still needs about two months to heal?

De'Aaron Fox, Pascal Siakam, and Richaun Holmes in your primary lineup. We touched on the obvious question: Does that lineup have enough shooting/spacing for optimal Fox & Siakam gameplay?

At the beginning of the season, Pascal Siakam was benched as a  "disciplinary measure", per Shams Charania, because he "exited the floor early after fouling out Thursday in Philadelphia." In the following months, Siakam was fined $50,000 for a locker room interaction with Nick Nurse following the Raptors eight straight loss. I asked Louis if there is any cause for concern with either of these incidents or any others.

The big question we covered is why would the Toronto Raptors would consider trading away a talent 27-year-old, if they are at all? Does it have anything to do with his 4-year $136-million deal?

Does the commonly mocked Buddy Hield, Marvin Bagley, and a handful of first-rounders seem like enough to get it done? What are some of the other potential offers for Siakam around the league?

Let me know in the comments your thoughts on Pascal Siakam, his fit in Sacramento, and what your trade package would look like.

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andy_sims
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August 10, 2021 1:07 pm

I’ve been a huge fan of Siakam’s for awhile now, and think he’d be an excellent fit with the current roster. I’d have to do more research about his labrum injury & surgery, what a typical recovery looks like, and so forth, but if he’s likely to return to full strength, I would give a long think to the deal proposed in the graphic.

You hate to give up so many picks, but Siakam is absolutely a needle-mover, and would hopefully make the picks traded away become much less valuable.

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August 10, 2021 1:15 pm
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The results of arthroscopic labral repair in athletes are excellent, with a high expectation for full recovery.

Once Siakam is fully recovered from surgery, he would be expected to return to his previous level of play. His recovery will likely extend into November or December, but at some point, he would be expected to return back to form.

From here

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August 10, 2021 1:18 pm

Some good info here too

andy_sims
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August 10, 2021 1:28 pm

Thanks, BHE!

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August 10, 2021 1:35 pm
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No problem. I also looked through a couple NIH papers, but the links above give a quick easy synopsis.

If you look for more, just note that basketball players are not considered “overhead athletes” by the definition of sports medicine studies.

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Want2win
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August 10, 2021 3:26 pm

I’ve become an expert at labrum tears in the shoulder. My high school son tore his right labrum during football season his sophomore year, during his junior year tore the left labrum, senior year right before the season tore the right labrum in a different spot. I have also had rotator cuff and a slap tear in my right shoulder. He should Not really have any issues with basketball as long as he doesn’t come back to you soon.

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August 10, 2021 4:38 pm
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Yeesh, my shoulders are a horror show, but it’s more about the bursa, not the labrum. Yes, absolutely, get your son nice and sound, lingering shoulder pain ain’t worth it.

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August 11, 2021 9:34 am
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Bursa is no fun and you are absolutely correct about long term care. I stay on him to continue to do PT exercises daily to keep is strong and stable.. but you know how we were as youngsters.. thinking we are invincible

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August 10, 2021 2:00 pm

3 1sts? 3? Really?

I’d have a hard time accepting that.

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August 10, 2021 2:21 pm
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Me, too. I like him, but there is zero evidence he’s a difference maker without Kawhi and Lowry drawing the better defenders. And if he’s a big pouter in Toronto with Nurse, imagine what he’d be in Sac with Luke.

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August 10, 2021 4:40 pm
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You’re seeing it backward. If Siakam takes issue with Walton (as anyone would), then one of them will be out the door.

If anyone wants to take Siakam in that wager, I’m prepared to go large.

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August 10, 2021 9:13 pm
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Cute. I wish.

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August 10, 2021 2:22 pm
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For me it’s 1 FRP. And that’s if Buddy Hield is included. No FRP if Harrison Barnes is.

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August 10, 2021 7:09 pm
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If the Raptors are serious but don’t find the package of Buddy/Bags/FRP appealing enough, I would consider adding in two pick-swaps.

3 FRPs is too much for am injured guy making $136M over the next 4 yrs and who just had his replacement drafted in the top 5.

If Barnes is as good as I (and evidently the Raptors) think he is, they’d need to move Siakam before next year anyway in order to get Barnes in the starting lineup. They’ll have even less leverage and one year less of control then.

Are the Raptors going to start both, two 4s with no center? Are they going to bench Siakam? Will delay the growth of Barnes by making him stay on the bench?

Siakam is not as good as Simmons on defense, in transition, as a ball-handler, or as a passer so I disagree with his comparison of the two. Siakam is dope, and a better shooter by far and IMO, Simmons would only grade out a little better than Siakam as a whole but I laughed out loud in the store when he said 5 FRPs.

Would rather go after Simmons if that is the price, at least Philly knows what Buddy could do for their offense (Buddy is such a good fit in Philly).

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August 10, 2021 2:24 pm
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Buddy, Bagley and a single protected 1st would be fair in my mind!

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August 10, 2021 8:39 pm
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Yep. Maybe top 5 protected.

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August 10, 2021 8:37 pm
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Me too unless you got two back.

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August 10, 2021 8:34 pm

The talk to trading Barnes (our only legit SF), Bagley, and three firsts for Siakam is insane to me. Buddy, Bagley and one first perhaps.

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August 11, 2021 7:19 am

We’re going to have to be giving up more value for any sort of upgrade than a lot of people on here think. The issue is if the Raptors are giving up Siakam, that means they are going into a rebuild mode and Buddy as a main piece doesn’t help with a rebuild. Bagley is possible but it seems like he isn’t worth much of anything now.

So, knowing those things, you’re talking just picks (or Haliburton, which I certainly don’t want to do). And how many picks does it take to get a near-star? That has to be 3 at the least. Unfortunately I think that Jrue Holiday trade last year hurts us when trying to make a deal like this as it might be what the Raptors would require when you don’t have players they’re interested in to offer.

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August 11, 2021 9:36 am

Could you add a link to the podcast like you do with the Kings Herald show. I’m at work and I can’t access the podcast from the platform sites for some reason (it’s like they want me to work at work or something) but I can access the podcast from a link.

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August 11, 2021 3:51 pm

Buddy and Bagley is likely too little (even with picks). Raptors wanting Fox is too much, that defeats the purpose why the Kings are interested to begin with. Someone would need to budge! Three years left is decent, but 2.5 years after injury, assuming he’s healthy (and the whole first year isn’t worthless). Not thrilled to give up three picks for 2.5 years.

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