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Report: Marvin Bagley refused to enter Monday’s game vs the Suns

It was a fun couple games between Bagley drama incidents.

Marvin Bagley refused to enter the second half of Monday's game against the Phoenix Suns, according to a new report this evening from Sean Cunningham. Sean's tweet also includes video of Bagley returning to the bench after not entering.

Cunningham asked Walton about the issue, but Walton would not confirm that Bagley had refused, saying that any issues would remain in-house.

This is obviously the smart way to handle things from Walton and the Kings' perspective. It's assumed Marvin has no future with the organization and will be traded at the first reasonable opportunity. Confirming a report like this would not have any benefit to Bagley's trade value.

As a Kings fan, it's hard not to be mad at this. Before the first game of the season Marvin Bagley's agent, Jeff Schwartz, publicly complained that Bagley was not in the Kings rotation for that night. Bagley simply can't have it both ways. You can be mad at not playing or you can choose not to play when given the chance, but you don't get to do both.

This incident would certainly answer the lingering question of why Walton played Chimezie Metu and Damian Jones on Monday against the Suns. It was seen as odd at the time that they played instead of Bagley.

It's worth noting that Metu and Jones have also had minimal roles in the rotation this year, but when given the opportunity they played well and helped the team return from a deficit. Walton rewarded them by leaving both in even in the final minutes when the Kings had brought the game within 2 points with seconds remaining. They made the most of their opportunity.

But I'm sure Marvin's approach is good too.

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RobHessing
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November 10, 2021 4:26 pm

Injured yet again. This time he’s butt hurt.

Send him home. He’s a sunk cost at this point. Bring up Lou King.

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November 10, 2021 4:54 pm
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DNP-FH

Feelings Hurt

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November 10, 2021 9:00 pm
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Good thing they didn’t trade him after year 1 or 2. It wasn’t like one could tell how crappy Bags was almost immediately.

Make a horrible draft decision and compound it with stubborn ego. Kangz

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November 10, 2021 4:28 pm

If this is true, then fuck that guy. Send him home until he can be traded. If no one wants him, cut him at after the deadline. At best the Kings can offer him the chance to play in Stockton and salvage what little of a career he has left.

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November 10, 2021 4:34 pm
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He deserves no more chances or opportunity from this organization in any capacity . NONE.

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November 10, 2021 5:13 pm
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Kings can’t afford to expose this guy as an asshole. He is a trade chip/salary filler/lottery ticket for a potential trade partner. Not sure why Lose would have offered, maybe to let Marvin show he is an NBA player? I think he was asked if he wanted to play, not get in there…NOPE. More like Marv you want some
game time? Nah I’m good.

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November 10, 2021 5:33 pm
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Unfortunately, I think that it is too late.

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November 10, 2021 9:25 pm
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Henry Turner made a great point on the radio pre-game show this evening: If Marvin had entered the game and played well, and been part of the big comeback vs Phoenix, he could have changed the entire narrative about him in 10 minutes. Instead, he chose to sit down and confirm everybody’s worst impression of him. Marvin Bagley is an idiot.

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November 10, 2021 8:36 pm
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I say keep him around so you can trade him to either a really shitty team where he can be entrapped in a losing culture or to a really good, but not championship, team and get no playing time.

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November 11, 2021 5:11 am
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I say keep him around as an example to other young guys of how NOT to be a successful NBA player. “See Marv over there, don’t be like Marv.”

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November 11, 2021 8:49 am
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That’s actually how foraging peoples—who share food—use freeloaders who don’t at least try to help. They are moral examples of how not to be.

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November 10, 2021 4:33 pm

start withholding his checks. This dude just collecting millions while refusing to do his job. Unprofessional, and undeserving of the money he’s being given. Disperse his salary among families who need it.
What an entitled ASSHOLE if true.

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November 10, 2021 4:40 pm

He will have made over $36M by the end of this season (virtue of his rookie salary scale). Has there ever been an NBA player to make more having done so little? Even #1 pick Anthony Bennett didn’t make as much because folks were right not to extend him on his rookie scale deal.

Just to be clear, Monte did exercise the team option on Bagley less than a year ago to guarantee him for this year.

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November 10, 2021 8:47 pm
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Just to be clear, Monte did exercise the team option on Bagley less than a year ago to guarantee him for this year.

Was the choice to not pick up the option? You wanted a repeat of the Harry Giles situation?

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November 11, 2021 9:33 am
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When he’s played, he has put up some empty stats. He gets numbers, but he has a low ceiling and refuses to improve or be a good teammate. His awful defense overshadows the scoring and rebounding he does produce. He’s a less charming Michael Beasley.

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November 10, 2021 4:33 pm

Luka Doncic was taken AFTER this guy

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November 10, 2021 5:14 pm

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…I’m ok…. I’m ok……….

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November 10, 2021 5:22 pm
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My god, what is that from?

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November 10, 2021 5:24 pm
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Possession.

It’s a CRAZY film starring one of the greatest actors ever, Isabelle Adjani (the woman in the gifs)

….I seriously almost want to tear my hair out if I think about everything that’s happened since the 2018 draft night.

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November 10, 2021 7:53 pm
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Did she take possession out of Fox’s hands?

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November 10, 2021 10:21 pm
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Ha! She did more than that!

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November 11, 2021 9:14 am
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What is the movie?

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November 11, 2021 2:03 pm
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Possession

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November 10, 2021 9:12 pm
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Whoa! I broke down and paid way, way too much for a copy of this a few days ago and am impatiently waiting for it to arrive. It’s so beautiful and so…slimy.

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November 10, 2021 10:20 pm

I happened to watch it for the first time at the Laemmle theater in Glendale a few days before Halloween.

You’ve seen it before, eh?

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November 10, 2021 9:04 pm

So we’re about 10 other players significantly better than Bags. Players actually contributing to the team. And participating.

i guess Bags really is ego driver, outta touch and entitled

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November 11, 2021 9:35 am

And Trae Young. And Jaren Jackson Jr. And Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. And…..just f*ck.

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November 11, 2021 10:20 am

Gary Trent jr. was taken waaaaay after this guy.

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November 11, 2021 12:58 pm

It is because “Better player, better fit.”

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November 10, 2021 4:33 pm

You’re not Ben Simmons, Marvin.

Trade this toddler for a bag of chips, and throw in his dad for a Take 5 bar.

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November 10, 2021 9:05 pm
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A Bagley of chips

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November 10, 2021 4:39 pm

Marvin Bagley: The face of a franchise that has been set back ten years. Welcome to Mt. Bustmore, Marvin. Right next to Pervis, Thomas Robinson and Jimmer Fredette.

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November 10, 2021 4:41 pm
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Nik Stauskas: “Hold my beer.”

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November 10, 2021 4:44 pm
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I considered Nik, and Ben McLemore. My monument is based partly on where they went in the draft and partly on what the other options were. There were a treasure trove of players at 7 in the Jimmer draft, and the Kings of course passed on Dame to draft T-Rob. Pervis was the #1 pick. And we’ve gone over the disaster that was/is the Bagley pick. Nik and Benny Mac just don’t quite make it onto my mountain side.

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November 10, 2021 4:53 pm
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I totally get it, I just felt the need to point out that lists of busts over the past 15 years is painfully long.

I think I’d put money on Vivek being the #1 owner of players drafted that were busts and washed out of the league during his tenure. Vlade has to be #1 GM, and Vivek is only being held above water with the recent picks by McNair.

If Bagley washes out, Vlade will only have Fox and WCS. That’s it. Every other pick has dropped out of the league.

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November 10, 2021 4:57 pm
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Underrated in awfulness is the total lack of yield that he got with the #10 pick in ’17. Look at the players that went after #10. Look at the players that he could have taken at #15 & #20. Truly awful.

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November 10, 2021 5:04 pm
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For sure. So many misses with that #10 trade back. Vlade could have thrown darts at a board with that pick instead of trading back.

In order: Kenard, Mitchell, Bam, Collins, Allen, OG. Kuzma, White, Hart. That’s 9 out of the last 20 players picked in the first round after Vlade pulled his trigger.

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November 10, 2021 4:58 pm
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What a depressing stat that is.

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November 11, 2021 1:03 pm
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Vivek just had to wait until the absolute catastrophe of a climax to do anything about it, in Vlade picking Bagley over Doncic or anyone else ,like Trae or Jaren Jackson Jr, who would have been better.

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November 11, 2021 10:22 am
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McLemore keeps making NBA rosters.

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November 12, 2021 9:35 am
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From the looks of the last couple seasons, Portland’s may be his last.

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November 11, 2021 1:01 pm
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Passed on Rubio and Curry for Tyreke, who was considered a reach at the time. Sure, he had probably a better rookie season with that whole “20-5-5 stat line” and now stands among the greats in his rookie season with those stats or whatever.

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November 10, 2021 5:31 pm
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You’re gonna need a bigger mountain.

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November 10, 2021 8:16 pm
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I read it in Roy Scheider’s voice and legit lol’d.

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November 11, 2021 2:06 pm
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Roy Scheider was in All That Jazz….I see the Vivek connection
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November 10, 2021 7:40 pm
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I wasn’t around for Pervis, but TRob & Jimmer didn’t infuriate me as much as Bustley has.

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November 10, 2021 9:20 pm
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I have a feeling that, sometime in 2022 or so, a Jimmer-to-Bagley alley-oop will be a thing that gets 20,000 Shanghainese fans on their feet.

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November 10, 2021 9:34 pm

Be amazing to see. Hopefully it happens.

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November 10, 2021 9:28 pm
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At least Jimmer had some sense of humility, went to China, and turned into a legend there. Bagley would refuse to play in China because he’s too good for it.

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November 10, 2021 4:44 pm

As a Kings fan, it’s hard not to be mad at this.

Hats off to those who still get angry over any dysfunction coming from one of the worst franchises in the history of professional sports.

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November 10, 2021 4:46 pm
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I keed, I keed!!!

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November 10, 2021 5:41 pm
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double dookie: not only is Bagley crap for sitting out, he’s not a good player.

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November 10, 2021 5:25 pm
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Right?

I just chuckled.

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November 10, 2021 9:09 pm
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I feel like a [email protected]$ Vivek needs to be here. Can’t be horrible without atrocious ownership.

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November 10, 2021 4:52 pm

I hate to defend this guy, but the Kings have completely mishandled the situation. Cut him or trade him, but don’t completely banish him from the floor. They gave this guy major minutes the last few years and now they’re basically saying you’re worthless. He might be (I doubt it), but what does the current situation accomplish.

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November 10, 2021 4:54 pm
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Uhhh, they didn’t banish him. He refused to go in the last game. He’s the one acting like a toddler.

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November 10, 2021 4:55 pm
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Maybe they didn’t say please?

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November 10, 2021 8:45 pm
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Marvin should be the one saying please.

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November 10, 2021 5:08 pm
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Uh, he has played in ONE game. It’s obvious they are trying to send a message. The Kings management just has no clue what that message is supposed to be.

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November 10, 2021 5:11 pm
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I feel like the message was “You’re currently not good enough to crack the rotation so keep working and stay ready because you may be given the opportunity to prove yourself.”

Bagley basically responded with folding his arms and pouting in the corner.

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November 10, 2021 8:50 pm
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I agree with this but in addition I think the message was if you’re a bad defender you’re not going to get playing time so if you want to get on the floor work on your defense. The closest I’ve heard Marvin talk about working on defense is when he talked about working with DC and even that was pretty weak testimony.

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November 10, 2021 5:35 pm
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Maybe, like “you need to earn your minutes like everyone else”?

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November 10, 2021 6:17 pm
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So wait, are we saying that he didn’t deserve any minutes over the past three years? Because the team was was either really incredibly dumb or they thought he had some degree of talent.

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November 10, 2021 6:54 pm
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Read what you just wrote.

“incredibly dumb or they thought he had some degree of talent.”

Great description of the whole situation.

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November 10, 2021 7:43 pm
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Bjelly deserved to start last season, not Bustley.

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November 10, 2021 9:24 pm
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Amen.

rec.

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November 10, 2021 9:29 pm
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It was both.

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November 11, 2021 1:03 pm
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Not nearly as many as he got. He got minutes for a long time because he was a No. 2 pick, and the hope was that he would develop and understand how to play in the NBA. But when it became obvious that wasn’t happening, he still got minutes, and Walton kept talking him up in post game press conferences.

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November 10, 2021 9:03 pm
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There’s a financial incentive if he doesn’t play a certain amount. That’s probably worth more value in a trade than his actual skills. But his QO is much lower by not meeting a minutes played threshold this year.

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November 10, 2021 5:17 pm
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This needs to stay quiet no selling at the now lower bottom. He is a guy some other team will take as filler thinking”well it’s the Kings, Dude is probably an All-Star” we will trade a serviceable guy for a shot at glory.

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November 10, 2021 5:22 pm
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You think that there is a GM in this league that is unaware of this situation? And before you answer, remember, Vlade is “retired.”

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November 10, 2021 6:18 pm
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Teams get ahead of this crap. They know when to cut bait. Kings are now sitting on a totally worthless No. 2 pick in the NBA draft.

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November 10, 2021 9:10 pm
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And they are paying him pretty good money.

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November 10, 2021 5:17 pm
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Remember that the FO had tried to trade him for S. Bey, it’s just the Piston refused.

He got no value now.(other than expiring contract)

we have to just wait until trade deadline.
right now, just DNP-CD him is the best.

Best for the team.

p.s. I wish to know what D. Christie thought, maybe he wa ms thinking :”what the Fxxk of going on with this guy”

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November 10, 2021 5:19 pm

It’s unprofessional to not go into a game that you’re called to go in for.

I can’t imagine Doug Christie would be ok with that.

I’m sure as hell Jerry Reynolds is not ok with that, and will say something about it on the next podcast.

This dude is getting paid to ….. to pull this shit?

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November 10, 2021 8:53 pm
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Kenny Thomas made this exact point in the pregame show and compared it to his tenure with the Kings.

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November 10, 2021 10:26 pm
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Ah, glad to hear that!

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November 10, 2021 5:31 pm
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Bagley should have gone into the game, at least to keep the negative spotlight off of himself. Bagley refusing seems no different from what’s going on with Ben Simmons, which I guess you could argue is OK because Simmons is a better player, but it seems the same to me.

Regardless, Bagley’s agent said the Kings passed on deals (plural) for him, and now they’ve anchored him to the bench in a contract year. From Bagley’s perspective, it looks like the Kings are intentionally trying to ruin his next contract by refusing to play or trade him. That may not be what’s happening, and I think Bagley’s team is filled with idiots, but I’m sure that’s exactly what they’re thinking.

Bagley is wrong *and* this whole situation is being stupidly mismanaged by the Kings. This has been festering for years at this point, and it was obvious it was going to get worse. There’s zero reason for Bagley to be here at this point (or two months ago, or six months ago). This isn’t complicated. Just trade the guy already. Dealing him for slightly less expiring salary is fine, saves the team some cash, and removes a problem. What are they waiting for?

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November 10, 2021 5:39 pm
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“From Bagley’s perspective, it looks like the Kings are intentionally trying to ruin his next contract by refusing to play or trade him.”

Possibly true, but the Kings wouldn’t play him if he could positively contribute?

Also, a trade requires a partner on the other side. Another team would have to decide that it would prefer Bagley over others on the roster, and others it could obtain through trade. I’m not sure that there is a team that would trade for Bagley and take on more salary than what it sends out.

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November 10, 2021 9:00 pm
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I’ve said this before but a “good deal” in the eyes of his agent is not necessarily a good deal (and I’d be willing to argue was not a good deal) for the Kings. If the Kings got an offer for Marvin that was good for the organization do you seriously believe they would have passed on it? I don’t. I think Marvin’s agent was being disingenuous here.

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November 10, 2021 4:56 pm

More minutes for Metu and Damian Jones.

And yeah, please bring up Louis King.

I think Bagley is in for a rude awakening after he eventually leaves Sacramento, if he believes his career will blossom elsewhere.

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November 10, 2021 5:03 pm
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Maybe it’ll blossom overseas…

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November 10, 2021 5:08 pm
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Blossom?

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November 10, 2021 6:12 pm
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I hear China is beautiful this time of year.

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November 11, 2021 1:10 pm
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Bagley’s nickname should be “Delicate little flower”

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November 11, 2021 1:09 pm
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if he believes his career will blossom elsewhere.

Well he has been training since the start for his rap music career.

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November 10, 2021 5:00 pm

I do have to thank Marvin for prudent management of my money. Had the Kings drafted Doncic I’d have season tickets right now. Thanks Marvin!!!

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November 10, 2021 5:06 pm
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Just imagine how much Vivek would’ve made just off jersey sales alone had they drafted Luka. Tremendous amount of could’ve-had revenue.

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November 10, 2021 5:08 pm
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I do get a chuckle out of that because I know the Maloofs would have insisted on Luka, if only for that reason.

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November 10, 2021 5:34 pm
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I’m not saying you’re wrong, because I know nothing about anything that’s not green and grows out of the ground, but it’s hard to believe Petrie picked Jimmer Fredette on his own.

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November 10, 2021 5:30 pm
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You are damn right.

Doncic’s jersey is so popular not only in US, but also worldwide.

Lots of people are wearing Doncic’s jersey in HK, even I got one Doncic’s jersey.

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November 12, 2021 9:41 am
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I can’t think of a single instance of a Bagley jersey being spotted at G1C, unless it was on the Kings bench for roughly 25-40 games a season.

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November 10, 2021 5:28 pm
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Seriously.

I’d be broke because I’d be going to games all the time and happily paying for $13 beers.

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November 10, 2021 5:13 pm

🙁

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