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Report: Indiana Pacers showing interest in Bogdan Bogdanovic

A new suitor has entered the market.

According to James Ham of NBCS, after failing to acquire Gordon Hayward from the Boston Celtics, the Indiana Pacers have shown interest in Sacramento Kings restricted free agent Bogdan Bogdanovic:

Unlike a few other teams that have been linked to Bogdanovic, the Pacers do not have any available cap space, meaning a sign-and-trade would have to take place. Because of that complication, a few factors would have to fall into place. First, Bogdan would actually have to hold interest in shifting his career to Indiana, which as we all learned in the failed Milwaukee Bucks trade, his desire to join any team must be completely locked down before any negotiations can take place.

In addition to Bogdanovic wanting to sign with the Pacers, the two teams would need to make the salaries match, which is a bit more complicated in a sign-and-trade transaction in which the receiving team does not hold any cap space. In that case, a concept called Base Year Compensation comes into play. For the Kings, that means Bogdanovic would only account for his previous season's salary or half of his new salary, whichever was greater. If his new deal were to start at $17 million, his outgoing salary for Sacramento would only be $8.5 million (his previous season's salary). For the Pacers, Bogdanovic would account for his full salary, and Indiana would need to ship approximately the same salary back. While that sounds nearly impossible, with a deal of this size, the teams only need incoming and outgoing salaries to fall within $5 million of one another.

Putting that concept into real life numbers, if Myles Turner is the assumed prize, a player who has been rumored to be on the trade block for months, including as the primary piece in the incomplete Hayward deal, the Pacers would be sending out $17.5 million and would be receiving $17 million from the Kings. For Indiana, that works just fine. However, Bogdanovic would only account for $8.5 million for the Kings, making the numbers too far apart (8.5 million outgoing for the Kings, $17.5 million incoming). Sacramento needs to add bout $5 million to their outgoing salary to make the numbers work: enter Richaun Holmes. If the Kings were to add Richaun Holmes to the deal, they would send out $13.5 million and receive $17.5 million, within the $5 million threshold. Indiana would be receiving $22 million and send out $17.5 million, also within the $5 million threshold. The salaries of players like Jabari Parker or Nemanja Bjelica could also be added if one were to slightly change Bogdanovic's salary, which is of course undetermined at this point in time.

While the Indiana Pacers were never a team that was necessarily expected to pursue Bogdanovic, a young asset like Myles Turner, a 24-year old rim protector locked up for several seasons at a reasonable rate, would be an extremely favorable outcome for Monte McNair and the Sacramento Kings. In fact, this would almost certainly be looked as an upgrade to the rumored Milwaukee Bucks compensation.

We'll keep this story updated as new information is released.

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MichaelMack
12 days ago

Getting Turner for Bogi would be terrific, almost ideal. A much better fit than Collins/Capela. I would think the Pacers would prefer Bjelica, with his ability to stretch the floor, than Richuan. I would rather have Richuan backing up Turner anyway.

I think the bigger question is why would Bogi want to go to a roster that is loaded at the wing, with Oladipo, Brogdon, Lamb, Holiday, and Warren, unless he knew that Oladipo was being traded.

Last edited 12 days ago by MichaelMack
12 days ago
Reply to  BabyGiraffe

if that happens id be the happiest king ever!

MichaelMack
12 days ago
Reply to  BabyGiraffe

It would seem Indiana would have to make another move to appeal to Bogi, I doubt he would go to play behind Oladipo.

Kingsguru21
12 days ago
Reply to  MichaelMack

I would not bet the farm on Bogi going to Indy.

Last edited 12 days ago by Kingsguru21
Inthestarz
12 days ago

Unless they are playing a BOgi at three don’t understand the fit

Turner is a bit overrated. Holmes arguably was more impactful last year, and Turner is a poor rebounder with hot/cold motor

still would be a solid trade though I think we’d have to maybe add a bit

SactownShaq
12 days ago
Reply to  Inthestarz

I love Holmes, but turner is one of the few centers I would prefer. He is a great rim protecter and a great shooter for a center. The Ideal stretch 5 for Fox/Bagley. His rebounding numbers are just down since he spacing the floor while playing with another center. In the playoff with no Sabonis he averaged a double double.

RORDOG
12 days ago
Reply to  SactownShaq

My thing is if Turner/Sabonis was a bad fit then why would Turner/Bagley be a good fit?

Yazan13
12 days ago
Reply to  RORDOG

if Bagley doesn’t fit then he’s gotta go, trade him by the deadline or just wait till the offseason.

if he doesn’t fit than he just hasn’t really improved at all, same story since he’s come into the league.

Last edited 12 days ago by Yazan13
ElRonToro
12 days ago

If Bogi does not want to go to the Pacers I would ask them if they would be willing to do a straight trade, Buddy for Turner. If they accept I would then match whatever offer Bogi gets and run with Fox Bogi and Halliburton getting the bulk of the guard minutes.

SactownShaq
12 days ago
Reply to  ElRonToro

Not a bad idea. Bogi might end up getting around that 50 million he turned down or possible less, I wouldn’t mind him at that price. We would always move him later if Halliburton shows he’s ready to start next to Fox.

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
12 days ago
Reply to  ElRonToro

Agree 100%

Gregoryl
12 days ago

Great write up in the nuances of the S&T. That being said, sounds like Bogi is chasing a paycheck and not sure he cares to help out the Kings. The Atlanta deal gets him paid and they don’t have to give anything up. I assume Monte has been testing the waters on a buddy trade just in case the Atlanta offer sheet gets signed.

12 days ago
Reply to  Gregoryl

im somewhat curious as to why this hasnt happened, is it holding out for more or are the Hawks not trying to spend that right now?

Gregoryl
12 days ago
Reply to  itsjabby

Could be so many reasons: Bogi wanting to see what other moves the hawks make first, waiting to see what teams are most desperate after the first FA rush, giving the kings ideas on where he wants to go, etc.

MillersCornrows
12 days ago

Realistically speaking, why does Indiana give up Turner? Who do they start in his place if the Kings don’t send Holmes back?

MillersCornrows
12 days ago
Reply to  BabyGiraffe

I understand the situation in Indy but why would the Pacers move one of their starting F/C’s to add a third guard behind Oladipo and Brogdon? Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see Turner on the Kings, but I don’t see the incentive from the Indy perspective unless the Kings add another asset like a future 1st or something else of value.

12 days ago

Turner’s playin’ in a bit of an odd role in Indy and they need someone who can score with Oladipo not back to his All-Star self after the injury.

MillersCornrows
12 days ago

Brogdon and Warren were beyond solid last season. I don’t see how Indy thinks that Bogi over Turner moves the needle and I like Turner so much that I wouldn’t be upset if the Kings threw something else in to make it happen. I certainly think Indy would demand extra assets.

Last edited 12 days ago by MillersCornrows
richie88
12 days ago

In today’s NBA, increasing a team’s wing depth isn’t a bad thing.

RAP87
12 days ago

Oladipo is certainly gone after this upcoming season or will be traded during the season. Bogdanovic is Oladipo’s replacement.

RORDOG
12 days ago

Perhaps Turner would benefit from a fresh start. If I was McNair I’d be doing my homework on why Turner hasn’t been able to improve over the years.

12 days ago

I’d like that trade much more than Milwaukee’s. We get Turner who’s a defensive and offensive upgrade from Holmes, let Bags play the 4 and have Bjelly come from the bench.

A starting 5 of:
Fox
Haliburton
Barnes
Bagley
Turner

is not too bad IMO.

busybe
12 days ago

Simple, just send Buddy over with Bogi and take back Oladipo with Turner.

I’m sure Victor will resign here when we’re the hottest team in the league next year after dropping Walton for Ime Udoka.

SirPatricio
12 days ago

myles turner in return? yes please

Brown.says.Good.or.Bad

This is bad

richie88
12 days ago

It’s not bad if the Kings get Turner.

richie88
12 days ago

Getting Turner would be much nicer than what the Kings would’ve gotten in the proposed Bucks trade.

Scarface132
12 days ago

I’m curious. Why would the masses prefer to trade Richaun Holmes or Nemanja Bjelica (to the deal) over say Jabari Parker? They all are one year deals and two of them had a better year and are better talents overall.

I think the clearer better fit for the trade is Parker. I get some people may want to tank but I don’t think it’s needed or good asset management either. Both Bjelica and Holmes should have more value for a later deal closer to the trade deadline too if that is the goal.

The West is brutal. If we make a deal with say Parker and Bogi for Miles Turner I would say we still would likely finish well outside of the playoffs.

I personally hate tanking and again I don’t think it is needed or it’s good asset management either. I think we would be deeper with both Bjelica and Holmes instead of say Parker and
Bjelica or Parker and Holmes.

Again you could still trade Holmes or Nemanja near the deadline and probably gain more back too in the form of younger players and or draft picks.

I’m just shocked how many people seem to prefer to trade out the clearer better players personally.

On a side note I would personally love if Turner ended up in Sacramento. It would gain us a younger player at a needed position. He should also fit with Bagley going forward.

Fox/Haliburton/Joseph/Jahmi’us Ramsey/Guy
Buddy/Haliburton/James/Ramsey/Guy
Barnes/Woodard/Jeffries
Bagley/Bjelica/Barnes/Woodard/Jeffries/Bagley
Turner/Holmes/Bagley/Bjelica

Yeah, I’m liking it theoretically. I still think we would need another big and yeah put me down for Alex Len or better yet Nerlens Noel. I would prefer Aron Baynes or Dario Saric but they would both be harder to get. Especially Saric since he is a restricted free agent.

I apologise for the length of this rant/post. I just hate the tanking vibe that many choose to embrace. We are likely to pick early with or without blatant tanking.

ArcoThunder
12 days ago
Reply to  Scarface132

I enjoyed your rant. Agree that Parker should be the additional piece with bogi. good call.

RAP87
12 days ago
Reply to  Scarface132

Noel is heading to NY.

Agree about Len though. Big body who can play a solid 12-15 mins per night and would cost cheaper.

Scarface132
12 days ago
Reply to  RAP87

I missed the signing. I’ve been scrolling through two different sites constantly but neither mentioned it to my knowledge.

jwalker1395
12 days ago

Fox-Tyrese-Bagley-Turner long term core with Woodard, Ramsey, DaQuan, James all given the opportunity to develop into the fifth guy (at least until we draft Cade Cunningham) would be sensational. Monte has been putting together my dream off-season right now. Hope he can make this Turner deal work.

TheGrantNapear
12 days ago
Reply to  jwalker1395

That’s a good four core players to develop. And hope eventually you land that second star somehow.

Hobby916
12 days ago

I like that the Kings rumors of FA signings have been relatively quiet thus far. No overpaying on middle of the road vets to try and chase and 8 seed. Hopefully this will continue for day.

Dr.209
12 days ago
Reply to  Hobby916

So nice that Divac isn’t running our team with his instinct anymore.

Jman1949
12 days ago

According to Jason Anderson:

jwalker1395
12 days ago
Reply to  Jman1949

@Pacers do it, cowards.

TheGrantNapear
12 days ago

The Ringer had an article this week on Turner which sold me on Turner and his potential moving forward.
I think a trade centered around Bogi for Turner would be great. Also, if the Bagley and Turner dynamic doesn’t work, Tur er’s contract and skill set make him very tradeable. Best to get an asset for Bogi if he is leaving. Keep accumulating talent and you can trade down the line. Teams are giving up firsts like they are worthless, I’d say Turner would be worth a first down the line.
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/11/20/21579000/myles-turner-nba-trade-offseason

kings4ever
12 days ago

I think Bogi is overestimating his value and maybe that is why the market for him is tepid:

— he’s closer to a 15M per year player, he wants 20M plus
— he always seems like he has a nagging injury, durability is a skill
— two years ago he shot us out of the playoffs , choked?
— he was not exactly lights out during the Bubble
— 28 years old not 25 years decreases the window of his prime
— never been able to sustain leathal accuracy from deep
— never over 40% from 3 point range ( 39.2 / 36 / 37.2)
— half court player not an uptempo fast break player
— average defensively

So while Bogi is a terrific pick and roll player, he can usually keep his man in front of him, and is the consummate team player, there are these flaws to his game that cannot be dismissed away.

I love Bogi for his work ethic and commitment and crafty nature but frankly the sub 40% on 3s and the chronic nagging injuries is something Buddy Hield has over him in spade.

Buddy never gets hurt and has always been over 40% (41.1% for his career). That gets lost in the conversation.

Dirkula
12 days ago
Reply to  kings4ever

Totally agree.
Bogi has been fine, but clearly not someone I’d expect teams to give 18-20 mil for.

TheGrantNapear
12 days ago
Reply to  Dirkula

After seeing what Buddy and Barnes got I don’t blame him. But he has to realize Vlade ain’t walking through the door.

Dirkula
12 days ago
Reply to  TheGrantNapear

Thankfully! 🙌🏻

kings4ever
12 days ago

Friendly reminder that we could have drafted Myles Turner (when it was obvious he was the more skilled propsect and three years younger) but Vlade went with Willie Stein, who last I checked barely even wants to play in the NBA, and the feeling seems mutual among those in a position to sign him.

TheGrantNapear
12 days ago
Reply to  kings4ever

Another horrible draft pick by Vlade. Not to mention Booker went a few picks later, guess he wasn’t Kentucky enough

Kingsguru21
12 days ago

Good job on making a proposed trade work Tim. I wasn’t sure think there was any combination that could really work for a team like Indy with Bogi’s BYC factoring in but you at least came up with one so well done.

OTOH, as always, I’ll believe any deal when I see it really announced.

RORDOG
12 days ago

If the Kings can’t swing a trade for Turner, then I propose they sign former Pacers big man Kyle O’Quinn.

Dirkula
12 days ago

There goes HG3

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MichaelMack
12 days ago
Reply to  Dirkula

Good for Harry. Dame is a genuine leader, that team always seems close knit, and I think with some health this year, they have an opportunity to be a top seed in the west. Could be a good way for him to see how a real competitive organization runs. Best of luck to him.

RikSmits
12 days ago
Reply to  Dirkula

Portland; not a bad destination. Good luck, Harry!

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
12 days ago
Reply to  Dirkula

Portland is killing it in free agency.

TheGrantNapear
12 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Portland has always been Kings north for me, always had love for them given they’re also a small market on the west coast.
That’s a deep squad indeed.

Dr.209
12 days ago

I still have a feeling that ATL is gonna send Bogi a huge deal at 459pm and we won’t match and he’ll leave without compensation. Regardless, this FA feels different – nice to not be throwing money at a bunch of sub-average vets in order to “fill holes” or “build culture”.

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
12 days ago

I expect something from Bogi pretty soon.

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
12 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Well, that was fast.

Dirkula
12 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Damn, he’s gonna leave and we’re not gonna have anything to show for it 😕

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
12 days ago
Reply to  Dirkula

Looks like they let him walk or match. It all comes down to the numbers now. ATL has been sitting on this and waited until 12 EST to do this. This was plotted and likely means the Kings won’t match, IMO

Dirkula
11 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Yeah, I agree, especially since he will have the no trade clause if they match

TheGrantNapear
11 days ago
Reply to  Dirkula

I’d match, can’t lose an asset for nothing. You can always trade him at a later time. We are talent deprived, can’t be losing good players for nothing.

Dirkula
11 days ago
Reply to  TheGrantNapear

Looks like 4 years at 72 million 👀

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
11 days ago
Reply to  Dirkula

Yikes. $18M per year is likely just beyond reach for Bogi to stay a King. I was thinking it would be around $16-$17M and they would match.

Last edited 11 days ago by Adamsite
MichaelMack
11 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Maybe McNair has a contingency for this, it can’t be unexpected.

RobHessing
11 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

If it’s a flat 4/$72m and I can’t get a decent prospect or pick out of Atl., I match. I’d probably take Bogi at 4/$72m over Capela at 3/$51m given the demand for the respective positions. But as I alluded to above, I would be shocked if there is not a poison pill trade kicker provision in the offer that makes matching pretty much a foregone conclusion that you’re wearing Bogi for the next four years.

Dirkula
11 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

Yeah, a kicker valuing him at $28 million at 28 years old already isn’t worth the gamble IMO

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
11 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

But if the offers sheet has been signed by Bogi there is no S&T possible. It’s either match or walk.

RobHessing
11 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Then I match, absent of some insane trade kicker provision.

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
11 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

Agreed. It all comes down to the structure of the deal, but I’d bet the Hawks have made it unpalatable for the Kings to match.

RORDOG
11 days ago
Reply to  TheGrantNapear

The only thing worse than losing an asset for nothing is retaining a negative asset. We should probably wait to hear more about the contract details on this.

RobHessing
11 days ago
Reply to  TheGrantNapear

The question will be if the offer has some sort of 25% trade kicker attached to it. If that’s the case and the contract has standard pay acceleration to it, his expiring year trade price could be the equivalent of roughly $28m or more.

CastlePeak
11 days ago
Reply to  RobHessing

Pending contract details, it’s time for the Kings to call Atl and indicate they will match once Bogie signs. See if Atl calls Kings bluff or becomes willing to do a sign and trade.

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
11 days ago

Bazemore gone.

Dirkula
11 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

The hits keep coming!

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
11 days ago
Reply to  Dirkula

Yeah, not a good Sunday for the Kings.

bjax1
11 days ago
Reply to  Adamsite

I know it’s early but tell me how Monte is any different from previous GMs. Kings MO is not to resign their own free agents, do nothing when free agency opens, then pick through the bargain bin and claim they got good value. Sure looks like the same way of going about as it always is.

bjax1
11 days ago
Reply to  bjax1

I’ll give him props for “trying” with the Bogi / Milwaukee deal but once again, Kangz and its gets screwed up. Mark my words, we’ll let Bogi walk, claim Haliburton is his replacement, and sign Whiteside for something nuts like 3-45M. I’m rather salty now if you couldn’t tell.

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