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Is this a make-or-break deadline for the Kings?

If the Kings fail to make a substantial move, how much longer will Kings fans wait?

The Sacramento Kings have been the subject of a multitude of trade rumors. After weeks of Harrison Barnes rumors, Nemanja Bjelica speculation, Buddy Hield trade machine ideas, Richaun Holmes hold 'em or fold 'em debates, and half dozen reports of good players the Kings pursued but didn't get, Kings fans are understandably anxious.

All this begs the question, is this a make-or-break trade deadline for the Sacramento Kings?

This may seem premature. After all, McNair has only been on the job since September. It feels a lot longer, but it's only been six months. McNair had an abbreviated offseason, but during that offseason he allowed Bogdan Bogdanovic, Alex Len, Harry Giles, and Kent Bazemore to leave for nothing.

McNair replaced those departing players with Hassan Whiteside, Glenn Robinson III, Chimezie Metu, and rookies Tyrese Haliburon, Robert Woodard II, and Jahmi'us Ramsey. Of those additions, Haliburton has been very good, and Metu has been a nice surprise for a player on a two-way deal. Whiteside has been predictably disappointing, even for a player on a minimum contract. Glenn Robinson III was waived. Woodard and Ramsey have been limited to garbage time minutes.

In other words, the offseason gave the Kings Haliburton and not much else.

We know from a variety of reports that the Kings weren't anxious to turn things around immediately. This was the "gap year". But it's still reasonable for Kings fans to expect progress, or at the very least some sign of the plan that is being executed.

What's funny is that Kings fans can't even come to a consensus as to whether the Kings should be tearing this team down or trying to build it back up, and yet pretty much everyone is anxious to see the team do something.

It's highly unlikely (though with Vivek, nothing is impossible) that McNair's job would actually be in jeopardy if he fails to make a significant trade. But this may be a make or break for some Kings fans. After so many years of being told to remain patient, another lost season could be too much, especially if it's accompanied by a lot of talk about deals that almost happened.

Personally, I'm not at that point yet. I'll be disappointed if this is the Kings team I have to watch for the remainder of the year, but it wouldn't be the worst Kings team I've watched. Heck, I don't think it cracks the bottom five.  But I'm also not worried because there's been so much talk about the Kings being in trade discussions that I truly think we might get some fireworks by Thursday's deadline.

In the meantime, I guess we continue to wait. We practice the most dreaded word in Sacramento: patience.

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MidtownMike
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March 23, 2021 1:47 pm

Kings fans will wait indefinitely, that’s what we do and why the ownership has been allowed to behave the way they have

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March 23, 2021 1:57 pm
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Ain’t that the truth.

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March 23, 2021 2:43 pm
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I think that this is largely true. That said, they have done a pretty good job of taking the goodwill that they earned in 2013 and burning it beyond recognition.comment image

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March 23, 2021 2:50 pm
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So glad we stayed 2013, so glad for G1C 2016. But the dismissive little chap is an NBA joke. How do we get out of Basketball Hell?

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March 24, 2021 12:20 am
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You can’t. Being a Kings fan means being part of Basketball Hell.
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March 23, 2021 3:49 pm
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Unfortunately…Mike has hit the nail on the head. It hurts that it’s the only show in town and the Sac community is beholden to a professional sports monopoly.

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March 23, 2021 1:50 pm

I mean, what’s another 30 years until success, right?
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March 23, 2021 1:51 pm

Hey Greg, thanks for taking my call.

I was wondering if you could dedicate a song for me? This one goes out to someone I lost touch with long ago…like almost 15 years ago. I know, right?

Her name is “KINGS IN THE PLAYOFFS”.

Thank you, yes. The song I’d like to dedicate is by Richard Marx. You know the one…
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Oceans apart day after day
And I slowly go insane
I hear your voice on the line
But it doesn’t stop the pain

If I see you next to never
How can we say forever

Wherever you go
Whatever you do
I will be right here waiting for you
Whatever it takes
Or how my heart breaks
I will be right here waiting for you

I took for granted, all the times
That I thought would last somehow
I hear the laughter, I taste the tears
But I can’t get near you now

Oh, can’t you see it baby
You’ve got me going crazy

Wherever you go
Whatever you do
I will be right here waiting for you
Whatever it takes
Or how my heart breaks
I will be right here waiting for you

I wonder how we can survive
This romance
But in the end if I’m with you
I’ll take the chance

Oh, can’t you see it baby
You’ve got me going crazy

Wherever you go
Whatever you do
I will be right here waiting for you
Whatever it takes
Or how my heart breaks
I will fucking be right here waiting for you
Waiting for you
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March 23, 2021 2:05 pm
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Automatic downvote for parody song lyrics. I don’t have many standards, but this one is in stone.

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March 23, 2021 2:06 pm
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You’re a tough cookie with tough standards, and I respect that, Andy.

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March 23, 2021 2:15 pm
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Thank you. As you may have guessed, a good number of them are somewhat low.

Why else would I be a Kings fan?

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March 23, 2021 2:44 pm
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EXHIBIT G in da house!

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March 23, 2021 3:04 pm
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I’m sorry. If you aren’t Weird Al, you need to put down that pen and walk away.

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March 23, 2021 3:29 pm
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That guy has a solid batting average.

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March 24, 2021 9:42 pm
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And you knew nothing then.

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March 23, 2021 3:42 pm
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I thought the same thing until I realized they’re not parody lyrics, but instead the actual song lyrics. So I’ll upvote him to counteract your downvote

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March 23, 2021 4:12 pm
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Automatic downvote for parody song lyrics. I don’t have many standards, but this one is in stone.

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March 23, 2021 1:52 pm

lmao at a 15-year “gap year”

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March 23, 2021 1:58 pm

Unfortunately I will wait for forever.

That said, it is totally a make it or break it trade deadline. If Belly, and Joseph get traded that would be enough to satisfy me for now and trust that Monte has a plan that will see some big shifts this off season. Maybe waiting to move guys like Buddy and Bagley would be better 6 months from now? If that’s the case then Monty should wait and I am ok wit that.

So I think I re answered the question for myself. Some trades need to happen now. Others later. REALLY BIG CHANGES need to happen before next season or Kings fans will be even more depressed and even more depleted. It’s not a good look if your’e trying to make money. Just sayin Vivek/Monte

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March 23, 2021 2:00 pm

I’m not sure McNair should get a pass on the short tenure – no doubt he has the lay of the land, and understands the value of the players on his roster and the challenges of the team’s assets and cap situation.

Where we may have a problem is in his relationships around the league. But that’s the drawback of hiring a guy with no experience in the head chair.

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March 23, 2021 2:01 pm
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As Jerry said on the latest podcast, (paraphrasing):

“If you have a “5-year plan”, that means you don’t have a plan. …except a plan to try to keep your job.”

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March 23, 2021 2:02 pm
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I think any GM should get a 3 year window unless the moves are absolutely horrendous and obvious.

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March 23, 2021 2:19 pm
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I had the urge to throw GM Vlade out the window for 3 straight years.

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March 23, 2021 2:07 pm
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Supposing that McNair has shitty relationships around the league, I’ll take that any day of the week over a GM that wants to be everybody’s friend so that no one speaks ill of him.

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March 23, 2021 3:02 pm
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I wouldn’t think he has shitty relationships, I just don’t know how connected he is. Maybe he’s thoroughly connected, based on his prior FO work. Hard to know, since he’s really mostly a mystery.

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March 23, 2021 3:06 pm
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I can’t conceive any possible way that you get so far up in an organization if you haven’t had conversations with a lot of different people.

I mean, unless your were a key part of the best third-place team in NBA history.

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March 23, 2021 3:28 pm
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What I’d read of McNair’s tenure in Houston is that he was chiefly an analytics guy and focused as the liaison between the FO and the coaching staff.

But he could have done much more there.

I suppose we can assume one way or another, I’m just saying I don’t know.

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March 23, 2021 3:41 pm
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Being Morey’s no 3 guy for all but one season may not translate much to actual meaningful relations with top guys ! Morey was rumored to be a control freak !

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March 23, 2021 2:21 pm
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I can’t imagine relationships are a limiting issue. McNair, Wilcox and Catanella have all been in the league long enough to establish relationships with various counterparts.

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March 23, 2021 2:01 pm

“Whiteside has been predictably disappointing”

The hate for him is so silly. Dude is averaging 8/6/1.5 blk on just under 15 min a game for vet min…sounds like a great get.

Of the guys getting more than 10 min a game he has the 3rd highest DefRtg.

The Kings w/l record is significantly better when he gets decent minutes.

I don’t get it, but it’s not like it matters much…

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March 23, 2021 2:08 pm
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He’s an easy punching bag, that’s all. You’d think he was on a max deal with three years left.

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March 23, 2021 2:21 pm
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I don’t get it either. But I guess whatever works for us to tank rest of season

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March 23, 2021 9:27 pm
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Just in the w/l column.

Hey Greg, 15 up votes to 1 down. Get better material

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March 23, 2021 3:01 pm
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I suspect the W/L thing is coincidental, considering the team has been worse (based on Net Rating) when he’s been on the floor. He’s the 69th rated center in the league in RPM.

I wouldn’t say he’s been super disappointing, he’s just been Hassan Whiteside. Competent at times, lazy at others.

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March 23, 2021 3:07 pm
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nice

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March 23, 2021 3:43 pm
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Rather have Alex Len !

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March 23, 2021 4:04 pm
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Whenever I watch him play, he’s fumbling the ball, missing layups, turning it over, and jogging. He gets his numbers though because his usage rate (second only to Fox on the Kings for players with at least 30 total minutes logged) is so high.

Sure, he gets boards and blocks–if he were to stick to that role instead of trying to score all the time, and if he hustled a bit more, perhaps it wouldn’t be a problem.

Also, the guards need to stop passing it to him near the basket unless it’s a breakaway.

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March 23, 2021 9:07 pm
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Indeed, most Whiteside haters are probably Bagley lovers, meaning they qualify as Double Ass Hats.

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March 23, 2021 2:01 pm

I’m already, at best, a passive fan. Through their own actions over the last seven years, they have set the expectations so low that any sign of coherence and competence will be pleasing, while no amount of chaos, dysfunction, and general stubborn stupidity will be shocking.

Am I interested to see what happens with the deadline? Sure. But do I actually care? Not really, no, and why would I? I don’t live in Sacramento right now, and even if I did, I couldn’t see a game, and even if I wanted to, I can’t. Outside of Burton and, unfortunately, to a lesser extent, Fox, there just isn’t anything that I feel good about this team.

It’s not like I’m some fairweather, whatever fan. I went to Seattle and stood on top of the Space Needle decked in Kings gear weeks after the relocation saga started. I flew home for special games with my parents in college. This organization’s incompetence just finally beat it out of me, a hometown kid who last saw a Kings playoff game before their 13th birthday and won’t be seeing one for their 28th.

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March 23, 2021 2:04 pm

You will be missed on this forum.

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March 23, 2021 2:07 pm
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Oh no, this sad sack of misers, muckrakers, and madmen will always be like home. I’ll be right here with you all Thursday wondering WTF is happening.

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March 23, 2021 2:10 pm

This site is the only reason I keep up with this sorry franchise.

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March 23, 2021 3:54 pm
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Exactly…Kings basketball product may be shit, but TKH content keeps me around!

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March 23, 2021 4:19 pm
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Same. If not for this site and community I probably wouldn’t have be paying much attention to the Kings a long time ago.

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March 23, 2021 2:09 pm

Same, except for only being 28.

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March 23, 2021 2:03 pm

If the Kings fail to make a substantial move, how much longer will Kings fans wait?

Until the offseason, as per usual.

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March 23, 2021 2:11 pm
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I need some reason for optimism. I can’t keep this up.

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March 23, 2021 2:21 pm
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March 23, 2021 2:33 pm
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One of my favorites.

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March 23, 2021 2:09 pm

I think some reasonable “small” trades will be made, but there is always laws of supply-and-demand.
— Stay put – No big trade happen: Boo McNair sucks
–Sell low – Big trades happen but we get fleeced – Boo McNair sucks

Of course best case we made “big” trades and get good value, but that could take a couple years to work out. McNair has only been here 6 months, to fix the last 15 years.

I’m with the Patience camp – yes yet for another year.

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March 23, 2021 2:15 pm

In one of his last interviews Charles Schulz said he would not allow himself to draw a strip in which Charlie Brown would kick the football. It would change the mystique of CB being CB.



The thing we love about CB is that he never does get to kick the ball but optimistically he never gives up trying no matter how many times Lucy pulls it out from under him.

https://alt.comics.peanuts.narkive.com/pvvZBy7f/did-charlie-brown-ever-get-to-kick-the-football

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March 23, 2021 2:46 pm
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Man, I sure could go for some cheap psychiatric help right about now.

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March 24, 2021 9:52 pm
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Well Andy, there you go. If I figure it out I’ll give you a heads up. If I can figure out what CB meant I’d suggest that you ignore my response entirely.

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March 23, 2021 2:18 pm

Nope, not for me anyway. I’ll follow the Kings regardless of any specific move – they are literally my home team. Now whether I’ll spend money at the Kings store or tickets is another thing altogether. As others have mentioned, this site certainly makes the experience much better.

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March 23, 2021 2:18 pm

I will be sorely disappointed if this is the team I have to watch the rest of the year: Too good to crack the top 5 in the draft and too bad to be anything more than a play-in team. This mid-level mediocrity is what the Vivek Ranadive tenure has been built on. I want this year’s team to SUCK! If Monte had a decent offer for Barnes or Buddy a month ago, he should have pounced. Instead, we’re winning meaningless games against the Rockets, Cavs, Wizards, etc. as those same teams fly right past us on the draft board and increase their chances of grabbing a star. Picking between 7-13 for the foreseeable future is Basketball Hell.

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March 23, 2021 3:52 pm
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Ironically, Utah built dynasty like that ! Malone at 14 and Stockton at 13 ! Now, seemingly have done it again with Gobert at 27 and Mitchell at 13 !

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March 23, 2021 4:12 pm
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Also the Warriors with Steph (7), Klay (10), Dray (35)
Also the Nuggets with Murray (7), MPJ (14), Jokic (41)
Also the Bucks with Giannis (15), Middleton (39)
Also the Heat and Clippers are both led by two all stars picked outside the top 7.

Only Kings fans think picking 7-13 is a death sentence, because somehow in consecutive years we picked in that range: Jimmer, Thomas Robinson, McLemore, Stauskas, WCS, Papagiannis

When we could’ve had: Kemba, Klay, Kawhi, Vucevic, Dame, CJ, Giannis, Lavine, Booker, Sabonis, etc.

I hope we get a top 5 pick, but picking outside of that range is no excuse for wasting a draft pick, as we’ve seen with Haliburton.

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March 23, 2021 8:09 pm
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For what it’s worth, Detroit drafted Middleton.

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March 23, 2021 8:31 pm
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This is true. I counted it because he only played his rookie year in Detroit, putting in just 475 minutes and was demoted to the G-League. So Milwaukee is the team that developed him from 2nd rounder to all star in my eyes.

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March 23, 2021 8:35 pm
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Fair enough.

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March 23, 2021 9:11 pm
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Luka at 2 would have been preferable.

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March 25, 2021 12:17 am
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As far as the dubs go I believe that the most incredible pick in that draft was Klay Thompson whose selection at 11 was genius based on the Logo’s, Jerry West’s, input. Tom Izzo was telling anybody who would listen not to overlook Draymond Green in the draft. KAHN fucked up the draft and Steph probably shouldn’t have gone lower than 5th.

If you look at the Kings recent draft history (say from the point they drafted Cuz to the most recent draft where Hali incredibly fell to us at 12 we have blown almost every pick. The draft is such an incredible value and crapshoot it’s hard to be critical of blown picks because all teams make poor selections at one time or another.

Every time I’ve ever watched, either Jerry’s or Doug’s keys to the game they always mention valuing the ball/limiting turnovers. If the draft keys to success are don’t waste draft picks then the Kings despite bad draft bad luck have not valued their draft picks I’ll just just throw up Papagianis and Stauskis or Jimmer where there was value to be had, sufficient enough to alter the teams future where they just fucked up the pick.

I’ll accept Monte’s trades tomorrow pretty much without criticism because I won’t be able to tell if this it long time move or if we have to wait for the other shoe to drop.

What is not acceptable to me and I’ll bet to the most of you who believe that if they pick a player who just doesn’t have NBA quality game and never will is more than a wasted pick. It’s just the franchise’s future, that’s all and as fans it’s the reason we watch the games and care far more than we should. I want a sign from the trade deadline and the draft that they are finally taking all this seriously.

If they rented a team of monkeys who were trained to throw darts for draft night night and the trade deadline they could not based on recent history, have done worse. I say quit fucking with the monkeys vivek. Just pick the player (s) trade or a draft pick…………………that your monkeys have selected and quit thinking about it. It’s a proven fact that thinking about the Sacramento Kings doesn’t work. Let the consultants you hired go about their work.

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March 23, 2021 9:10 pm
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We just got our best player at 12, and picked Bagley at 2.

The draft is irrelevant for us, because we suck at it.

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March 23, 2021 2:26 pm

Not make or break for this fan.
I’ll be disappointed, since there have been plenty of Kings trade rumors.

But I’ll see how the team looks at the start of next season before I begin the revolt 😂

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March 23, 2021 2:29 pm

I’ll say this, IF Monty doesnt make any real trades involving Buddy, Barnes, Holmes or BAGLEY by Thursday then the Kings just wasted more money. Like what was the point of firing a GM with 3 years left on his contract and then signing a new one if the roster was going to stay the same until the 2021/2022 season?

Literally anyone could have done the Job Monte has done so far. That’s not being negative towards Monte, just stating the facts. The dude hasn’t done much at all accept be accused of tampering and picking the guy that fell the furthest during the draft.

I’d like our new GM to actually do something to help make the team better for the future. Am I crazy?

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March 23, 2021 2:48 pm
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It still surprises me that there are adults who don’t understand that when you have unsatisfactory choices, that the smart move may be to simply do nothing.

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March 23, 2021 2:56 pm
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But you’re assuming all he has had are unsatisfactory choices. In essence, you’re working from the POV that McNair is competent at this job. You may well be right, but I don’t think we can say either way. There were probably many of us that felt that way about Pete D at the six month mark.

This isn’t the old NBA – teams improve much more quickly now. I don’t think you can be a passive GM and expect to turn around a franchise like Sacramento’s.

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There’s a huge difference between passivity and deciding not to make a stupid choice.

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March 23, 2021 3:25 pm
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There is a difference. And we don’t know which defines McNair (at least, I don’t).

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March 23, 2021 2:53 pm
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That’s the dirty little secret here – that he hasn’t really done anything (yet) that Vlade probably wouldn’t have done (or any other warm body).

I still have optimism that McNair will be better at this job, but there’s no proof of it either way to this point.

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March 23, 2021 3:00 pm
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Blind guess: Re-signs Bogi to a deal larger than what was ultimately offered to him by the Hawks, drafts Poku or Achiuwa.

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March 23, 2021 3:31 pm
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Come on, Rob. You’re just basing that on all of the entirely stupid moves that he made.

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March 23, 2021 3:39 pm
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The league is littered with GMs who have made terrible decisions. Maybe there aren’t too many as bad as Vlade, but they are plentiful.

I think the difference between you and me is you’re assuming McNair is good at this job. I hope he is, and I’m sure he’s more qualified than Vlade, but there’s a huge gulf between that level of ability and competence.

McNair could be anywhere in that gulf.

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March 23, 2021 5:26 pm
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Yeah I think anybody assuming he would have drafted Haliburton must have missed literally everything else Vlade did while he was here. I do not think that was a foregone conclusion at all.

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March 23, 2021 2:58 pm
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I’m in wait and see mode and generally think Monte has a clue, but who knows. I will counter in that not everyone would have made an obvious draft choice in Hali, see 5 GMs or so who passed and our own intrepid previous GM when an obvious choice presented itself…so yay Monte? Not making egregious mistakes thus far is a skill this organization has been lacking.

We wait and see…

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March 23, 2021 3:04 pm
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Maybe, but about two-thirds of the people here who understand college basketball nearly stroked out when Haliburton fell to Sacramento.

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March 23, 2021 3:08 pm
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Yeah, that was a no-brainer. It would have been far more telling of Monte’s talents had he passed on Hali.

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You’d think based on VD’s tenure, people around here would see the benefit in making the obvious choice. Apparently, it’s harder than we thought.

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March 23, 2021 3:25 pm
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Vlade drafted Fox and Bagley. Vlade signed Barnes and Holmes. These are all guys that you ostensibly seem to like.

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March 23, 2021 3:33 pm
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Liking or not liking them as players doesn’t mean I’d have made the same moves.

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Fox !

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March 23, 2021 4:41 pm
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Yeah…and the pick was made. A laundry list of GM’s in front of him wish they could have their pick back from last year. Monte is not one of them. He does get credit for that even if we feel it was an obvious choice. If Vlade had made the obvious choice he would still be GM of the playoff bound Kings.

I’m not saying he has done anything great, just that he also hasn’t done anything spectacularly stupid…which around here deserves a bit of praise, low bar as it is.

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March 23, 2021 3:57 pm
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Problem is Arco, we had previous GMs who wouldn’t pick the guy that fell furthest during the draft….so that’s a step in the right direction even if he didn’t make Hali fall. He gets credit for picking him.

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March 23, 2021 9:15 pm
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You are 100 percent correct, Vlonty McDvac has actually been really bad so far.

Remember, in addition to what you already mentioned, he also picked up Pervis’ option, which will likely end up with us losing Holmes.

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March 23, 2021 9:38 pm
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One major difference for sure is vlade would have matched that disaster of a bogi contact

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March 23, 2021 2:31 pm

Not gonna lie, if the Kings sit on their hands this deadline I’m gonna be quite upset. The thought of possibly losing Holmes for nothing in the offseason, getting another middling lottery pick and going into the offseason with little room for improvement is just so mind numbing. Buddy and Barens aren’t going to get any better or more tradeable by summer so the Kins would likely be rolling out the same core rotation with some vet minimum deals. How is that any different than this year or the previous season?

Tim had this really depressing tweet this morning:

This actually really upset me. It made me realize that the Kings ownership are essentially lining their pockets while the team remains shitty. I mean, seriously…$11M in cash considerations since Vivek took over.

We know they have never sent cash out so answer me this…how much salary have the Kings taken on in trades since Vivek took over? I’m took miffed to find the answer by I’m guessing it nowhere approaches $11M in cash withdrawals.

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March 23, 2021 2:47 pm
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The Kings could very well have money issues, but the cash considerations stuff doesn’t really mean much IMO. Bogi straight up told us that Vivek said he wanted to bring him back. The first year of Bogi’s contract dwarfs the total amount of cash the Kings have received in the various trades mentioned above.

With the Clippers trade specifically, I’m not 100% sure Tim’s number is even accurate. Why would the Clippers give the Kings $2.8 million instead of just waiving him? He’s an unrestricted free agent this season, and that’s more than his entire salary for all 72 games this season.

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March 23, 2021 2:51 pm
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Doesn’t the fact they didn’t match on Bogi undercut your argument? I mean, Vivek could have just been b.s.’ing Bogi.

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March 23, 2021 3:07 pm
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from what I understand there were two factions: Dumars/Vivek wanted to match the offer, and McNair wanted to trade him (or at least not match). That’s based on Bogi’s interview and Amick’s contemporaneous tweets during the 3 day period in which the Kings had to decide whether or not to match.

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March 23, 2021 2:54 pm
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It saved the Clippers a tax hit. Kings basically pocket $2M for paying the remaining salary of MK.

The trade article was updated with this info from Marks
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