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Report: Bogdan Bogdanovic trade to Milwaukee “in peril”

Things are getting weird on draft day.

According to Sam Amick of The Athletic, the reported sign-and-trade between the Sacramento Bucks and Miwaukee Bucks, thought to be a surefire transaction, is now "in peril".

Sources tell The Athletic the Bucks-Kings sign-and-trade which was expected to send restricted FA Bogdan Bogdanovic to Milwaukee for Donte DiVincenzo, D.J. Wilson, and Ersan Illyasova is in peril, as there was never an agreement from the 28-year-old small forward to join the Bucks and that element has become a major issue. High-ranking team official says deal has issues and outcome is unclear.

As a reminder, the initial agreement was to sign Bogdanovic to a contract in the $15 - $18 million annual range, and to combine his salary with Justin James in exchange for Donte DiVincenzo, D.J. Wilson, and the expiring contract of Ersan Illyasova. For the Kings and the Bucks not to have consulted with and confirmed Bogdanovic's commitment is almost impossible to imagine, as his long-term deal was the basis for the entire trade. Either one or both of the parties majorly dropped the ball, or there's far more at work here, possibly a last minute ploy to avoid a tampering charge since this trade should have never been announced prior to the start of free agency.

Update: According to Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN, Bogdan Bogdanovic plans to enter restricted free agency and explore other offer sheets and sign-and-trade possibilities. The deal may very well be dead:

This situation is devolving from a mystery into a disaster the further into the night we proceed.

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SierraSpartan
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November 18, 2020 2:32 pm

The players and the management may change, but the Kangz stay the same.

TheGrantNapear
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November 18, 2020 2:36 pm
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This!

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November 18, 2020 3:03 pm
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This is just to work around the fact that the Bucks can’t officially negotiate with Bogdan until the moratorium lifts.

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November 18, 2020 3:31 pm
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I think you’re right.

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November 18, 2020 3:38 pm
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Does anyone know how that lines up with the Giannis Supermax timeline? I am rougher generally on the CBA then in years past and I have heard the date of a deal was friday oor something? have not kept track.

All this is to say is this a team forcing the Bucks to temper to assure the timeframe of the Giannis extension goes as planned, or roadblocking the timeline to hold up the extension

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November 18, 2020 3:11 pm
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Yes they do…..alright alright alright! (I just watched Dazed and Confused for the first time in a long time)

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November 18, 2020 4:05 pm
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There’s never a bad time to watch Dazed and Confused.

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November 18, 2020 3:43 pm
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I don’t think this is a Kangz thing. Why would the Kings be the ones to get ahead of things? They have nothing to gain to leak this deal.

hank_04
November 18, 2020 2:33 pm

Posted this in the draft day thread, but it seems to me the most likely scenario is the Hawks and Bucks reached out to Bogi’s agent before the end of moratorium. Bogi’s agent told the Kings that they could either sign and trade him with Milwaukee, or match a higher offer from Atlanta, as Bogi would take less to play in a better situation, or more to play in a worse. Monte chose the sign and trade route, someone leaked it to the press, and another team reached out indicating interest with a better situation and / or more money for Bogi. All speculation, of course, but what fun is waiting around for certainty?

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November 18, 2020 2:46 pm
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This is what I think too. Someone came at the agent with a massive offer sheet on the way.

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November 18, 2020 2:51 pm
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Said this as well in the draft thread, but I expect its ATL. Expect they read the deal and said they would raise the offer sheet. Considering the Kings already showed their hand, not good news.

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November 18, 2020 3:21 pm

It’s not a great look for Bogi, most likely, but until you have the man’s autograph on a deal…

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November 18, 2020 3:32 pm
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Exactly. Said this on the other thread but more i think on it, this is Bogi’s agent eeking out the dollars knowing the Bucks have to do this trade. I could see a Giannis suitor leaking the trade is in peril. Or ATL calling Bogi’s agent and saying they could beat the assumed number. But I think its Bogi’s team knowing the Bucks cant turn this deal down. They have won the lottery ten times over in retaining Giannis. They cant jeopardize that in any way. Got to pay the facilitator of making that a reality then.

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November 18, 2020 4:09 pm

This smells like Bogi’s agent trying to get more money out of the Bucks. The question is how much Bogi was signing for in the first place.

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November 18, 2020 3:23 pm

Reports are that the Hawks are trying to get Gallinari and maybe Rondo. Would they still go after Bogi? What might the deal include?

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November 18, 2020 3:47 pm
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If this is true then Bogi should fire his agent. How can an agent put the player he’s representing in that situation? It’s not like phones don’t work outside of Milwaukee/Sacramento/Atlanta.

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November 18, 2020 2:33 pm

This is just too fucking funny, I’m sorry. I wonder what the issue is, but it’ll be amusing if Bogi thought he was getting 15-18 million but found out to make the trade work he has to take 10 million.

That would be utterly hilarious.

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November 18, 2020 2:35 pm
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That seems like a likely speed bump

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November 18, 2020 2:36 pm
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This could also be Atlanta getting down & dirty with a big, front-loaded offer.

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November 18, 2020 2:37 pm
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Let’s hope so.

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November 18, 2020 2:38 pm
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Yep, this too. Lotta possibilities. The one I floated is the one I think that pertains most directly to Milwaukee specifically. I’ve seen it mentioned that Bogi’s likely salary was in that higher range but until I’ve seen an actual number I remained skeptical.

This news just furthers that, IMO.

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November 18, 2020 2:45 pm
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Could be, and might be why Amick included the “there was never an agreement from the 28-year-old small forward to join the Bucks” in his tweet. Bogi’s camp doesn’t want him to look like the bad guy here, even though he might be the bad guy (relative to the situation).

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November 18, 2020 2:47 pm
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Something smelled awful funny here from the beginning, starting with not only the timing (as a few people have noted) and the numbers on it’s own.

We’ll see. This stuff has happened before but it doesn’t necessarily kill a deal ultimately. It’s whatever.

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November 18, 2020 2:58 pm
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If ATL jumped in an sandbagged it, that is amazing.

I am all in on the drama of the NBA offseason.

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November 18, 2020 3:02 pm
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Kings could still get a large trade exception out of this which would not be insignificant in pulling a trade off.

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November 18, 2020 3:09 pm
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It could be bad news for the Kings though. ATL now knows the Kings lack of interest in an extension. Then Bogi might be frustrated with the Kings from the fallout of the Bucks deal. And in a match its a likely higher number than previously thought.

That all leads to a bigger Bogi contract with the Kings, a possibly more contentious battle in the Kings matching, a worse sign and trade deal, or us loosing him outright. All those I would argue are worse than the Bucks trade.

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November 18, 2020 2:35 pm

This does not strike me as positive news.

Everyone, to TKH store!

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November 18, 2020 2:37 pm
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I’m kinda disappointed you aren’t wearing pants, honestly.

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November 18, 2020 3:31 pm
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I asked my brother to order me a Kangz sweater for my birthday!

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November 18, 2020 2:36 pm

This is so Kangz!
I hope it doesn’t go through, rather have Bogi than the scrubs Mil is throwing at us.
or find a better deal.

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November 18, 2020 2:37 pm

Or could it be that a new team just got in the mix willing to throw a much larger contract offer? I find it hard to believe that they had no communication with the FA that has the leverage or them trying to upset that FA by no letting him have any input on destination. But considering rumor for this trade was out there a while. It makes no sense.

That seems like something Vlade would do. Are we sure he’s not still hunkered down in the front office, refusing to concede?

Either way, there is definitely tampering. Tampering of the expectations I had for this front office.

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November 18, 2020 2:37 pm

I believe I am now required to go back to thinking DDV was not enough value, right?

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November 18, 2020 2:50 pm
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Until Atlanta offers a deal that the Kings don’t match and we wind up with nothing.

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November 18, 2020 3:51 pm
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Exactly. For the Kings lets hope its Bogi’s team knowing the Bucks have to do this deal at all costs. If thats not the case, thats bad news for the Kings I expect. At this point regardless on how someone felt on the trade its much better it holds up compared to the other options.

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November 18, 2020 4:05 pm

The upside is that if Bogi has got Milwaukee over a barrel (don’t!), and gets a bigger contract, that ups the return the Kings receive. Maybe a pick, or an upgrade from Johnson. Same if he gets a big offer from Atlanta.

It’s possible the Kings benefit from all of this tsuris.

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November 18, 2020 4:06 pm
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I finally agree with you on something. I think the Kings might benefit from this.

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November 18, 2020 4:28 pm
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Thats interesting particularly with the Bucks. Its crafty if the number is higher to try to suss out a little more. That said, I dont think the Kings have much leverage as is. And if it isnt the bucks the money of say an ATL is a semblance of leverage. If I was them I wouldnt trade for the offer sheet. Mcnair has already shown he sees Bogi as expendable, albeit with a return but a deal largely hinging on lowering a future cap. And that was a trade at a lower contract number for bogi, assumingely.

I would call the Kings bluff. And if thats the case I dont think the Kings match. And there is an argument it would be unwise regardless. It doesnt help post trying to be traded, Bogi might not jump at the opportunity to sign a kings match, even if he’s restricted. We know that doesn’t mean all that much in the current league. Point is the Kings are on tepid ground in my estimation.

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November 18, 2020 11:26 pm

Yet the team still has the only real power in determining where Bogdan plays next season. They should totally spite-sign him if things get ugly.

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November 18, 2020 2:40 pm

BACKZ

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November 18, 2020 2:41 pm

I was hopeful for Monte but this feels very Kangz…

BACK TO THE PIT OF MISERY!

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November 18, 2020 2:44 pm

Meanwhile, over in Oklahoma City:

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November 18, 2020 2:51 pm

There will be a future draft where it will just be Presti making all 60 picks.

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November 18, 2020 2:56 pm
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Come on, Rob.

Presti will make 45 selections, at most. David Griffin will get the other 15.

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November 18, 2020 2:44 pm

Are we getting creamed by Cream City? Inconceivable!

Looking very professional, Kangz.

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November 18, 2020 2:46 pm

Breaking: Bucks believed they were receiving BOJAN Bogdanovic. Sources say Kings believed they were trading BOJAN as well and miscommunicated the information at first.

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November 18, 2020 2:46 pm

I just…

…sigh

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November 18, 2020 2:53 pm

Man… did I hype myself up for DiVincenzo for nada?

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November 18, 2020 2:57 pm

Possible predictions…

  1. Trade info got leaked before Bogi and Bucks agreed on a contract.
  2. Agent is trying to up the contract offer
  3. Another offer came in from another team and they want to explore that option
  4. Trying to avoid tampering charges (too late)
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November 18, 2020 4:25 pm
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If that’s the sitch then Bogi’s agent effed up BIG TIME.

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November 18, 2020 2:58 pm

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November 18, 2020 3:02 pm
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I thought that when the trade happened. It is blatant tampering. It might be another team leaking the trade is in peril then. There are fines in a formal complaint, not to mention likely scorn from other GM’s. Still this deal because of its assumed significance in Giannis is a massive trade. Multiple teams have planned around a chance at him. Wouldnt rule out teams pulling any stops to muddy the waters.

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November 18, 2020 3:14 pm

Another good take!

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November 18, 2020 3:13 pm
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I’m 95% certain that you have it exactly right.

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November 18, 2020 3:19 pm
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Why are they pissed? They’ve all been doing this for years.

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November 18, 2020 3:36 pm
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Well yeah but when it’s a player THEY want that somebody else tampered with it’s a huge problem! But when they do it it’s just how business is done. There will always be tampering and if other teams feel like they have proof then there will always be teams complaining about it.

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November 18, 2020 3:44 pm

There’s an entire ocean of proof. This may be too egregious for the league to gloss over. They really do need to start taking draft picks away from teams that engage in this kind of thing.

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November 18, 2020 3:53 pm
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I think the league loves the way stuff like this drums up attention. They might fine teams but I don’t think they would ever take high level draft picks away because I’m not sure they really even care.

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November 18, 2020 4:10 pm

Yeah, I bet they see it as a victimless crime.

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November 18, 2020 2:58 pm

I think all the people that thought the Kings didn’t get enough are gonna be really happy when they don’t match a big offer sheet.

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November 18, 2020 2:58 pm

I guess the optimism is Bucks have to do this trade if it is indeed the insurance in extending a 2 time MVP longterm in Milwaukee. I think Atlanta said a much higher number and Bogi’s team clicked pause. But it could be a leverage deal with the Bucks. The specific cap for them I have not dug threw their numbers, but the fact is you pay anything including luxury payments to assure Giannis’s extension.

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November 18, 2020 3:01 pm

The weirdest thing about all of this, that it took two days and just a few hours before the draft for this to break. Very fishy.

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November 18, 2020 3:02 pm
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I was thinking the same thing. There was plenty of time to discredit the trade.

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November 18, 2020 3:03 pm
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And I ignorantly thought this would be the smoothest Kings draft day in years. Alas

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November 18, 2020 3:01 pm

So do we welcome Bogi back to Sacramento?

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November 18, 2020 3:03 pm

OMG! Just heard a Jerry Reynolds voice-over in the NBATV draft show introduction video clip. Cool!

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November 18, 2020 3:04 pm

Can we please just do what Presti is doing in OKC?

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November 18, 2020 3:39 pm

Exactly. Picking up average players for a good player makes no sense.

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November 18, 2020 4:42 pm

Watch, they’re going to build another playoff team AND acquire future assets. Just like they did last year.

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November 18, 2020 3:06 pm

Whatever happened, Kings must have known the risks when they entered the discussion and never publicly denied the deal when it was reported. Hard to blame it all on MIL or Bogi and his agent.

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November 18, 2020 3:16 pm
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I’m totally fine with Kings saying nothing. Milwaukee are the ones who leaked it. Bogi’s camp sure as shit never denied it. This is embarrassing, but not Kings’ fault, for once.

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November 18, 2020 3:19 pm
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National media isn’t going to look at it that way though. It’ll look like, “Oh, Kangz as usual. Carry on.”

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November 18, 2020 3:22 pm
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That’s the thing that pisses me off. Considering how airtight the McNair front office has already been, it’s hard to believe the leak came from the Kings. But that nuance isn’t going to matter to a wider atmosphere that will just assume it’s more Kangz tomfuckery. And honestly, that nuance doesn’t much matter to me, either, since all I want is to not be embarrassed by my fandom for, like, a few months at a stretch.

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November 18, 2020 3:22 pm
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Yeah, not sure how this is a Kings’ issue on the PR side. Certainly might screw them, if McNair was really hyped to get DiVincenzo.

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November 18, 2020 3:34 pm
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correct. Both DiVincenzo and Wilson seemed like a “certain type” of player. One would assume Monty was pretty hyped on landing DiVincenzo

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November 18, 2020 3:36 pm
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Think this is likely on the Bucks as well. That being said, if you don’t want to be known as the team that inevitably fucks things up in humiliating fashion, don’t spend a decade and a half inevitably fucking things up in a humiliating fashion. Can’t really fault the media for making what is generally a very safe assumption.

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November 18, 2020 4:11 pm
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exactly. Welcome to Sacramento Monty. Good luck at tonights Draft.

gulp

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November 18, 2020 4:29 pm
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Milwaukee BACKZ.

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November 18, 2020 3:42 pm
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Yeah when it comes to who is at fault in this whole saga, I’m going with the franchise that has the long history of complete and utter ineptitude. This trade may get Kangzed.

Oddly reminiscient of Vlade’s first major trade as GM, when he didn’t know about the stretch provision.

Or when they tried to include Papagiannis in a deal without the other team knowing.

I mean that’s at least where my money would be… until it’s proven otherwise. The Kings reputation is well-earned.

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November 18, 2020 4:09 pm
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this is what sucks. Your take is the obvious take. It’s what the automatic reaction is from EVERYONE reading the headlines of this trade being in jeopardy. It’s the automatic assumption and its’s the probable answer if you’re playing the odds.

What doubly sucks is this is Monty’s first move. If this is not his doing/fault in any way and this is all lying at the feet of the Bucks and Bogi then I feel bad for our new GM. If he’s responsible then I feel bad for us. Like really really really bad.

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November 18, 2020 4:18 pm
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The people that matter will know the truth. Monte is well-respected.

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November 18, 2020 4:31 pm
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It’s the automatic reaction because of their history. And yes, it does suck. But like I said, their reputation is well-earned and until they prove otherwise, this perception will continue.

And we’re all just speculating here. I’m just saying if I had to put actual money on who fucked up here, I’d put it on the Kings. But that’s some money I wouldn’t mind losing.

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November 18, 2020 4:48 pm
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100%

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November 18, 2020 4:01 pm
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lol you can’t publicly deny a deal that can’t be publicly agreed upon until the 22nd

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November 18, 2020 4:12 pm
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The Kings didn’t need to leak this Monday. That’s the funny part to me. If anything, it was not in their interest in doing so.

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November 18, 2020 4:14 pm
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Agreed. If anyone leaked it, it was the Bucks in a way to gain favor with Giannis.

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November 18, 2020 4:18 pm
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Seems like a text to his personal phone might have been better than blabbing it to the media.

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November 18, 2020 4:36 pm
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It is even less in the interest of Milwaukee to do this and yet here we are.

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November 18, 2020 4:34 pm
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Why not? It is the easiest thing to do. You send out a press release stating that there is no deal and there obviously cannot be a deal. We are exploring several options with several teams. We will get back to you once we have actual news.

That would be true, and would IMO be much stronger than some apparent whispers to local media, while letting the tampering allegations run rampant.

Even if the Kings did not leak it, they should have been prepared for a leak. Now they look bad.

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November 18, 2020 4:40 pm
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they can’t publicly say anything one way or the other. this is simple NBA free agency 101.

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November 18, 2020 4:45 pm
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If reports are out basically accusing you of tampering you cannot react? i doubt that.

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November 18, 2020 4:48 pm
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What would the Kings gain by leaking the deal? That’s what I’m trying to figure out here.

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November 18, 2020 4:53 pm
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Who said they would have anything to gain by it?

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November 18, 2020 4:54 pm
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So we’re assuming the Kings are sabotaging themselves to maintain their horrible reputation?

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November 18, 2020 4:56 pm
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The wanted to get DiVincenzo-mania started as early as possible!

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November 18, 2020 4:57 pm
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Gotsa cornah the mahket on gingahz!

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November 18, 2020 4:59 pm
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I don’t know who leaked. Might have been Bucks, Kings, agent or other teams.

But many deals get leaked, and it seems we were apparently not prepared well from a damage control perspective.

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November 18, 2020 5:05 pm
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I don’t understand how you prepare to make an argument you are okay with something you couldn’t pull off legally until a few days later (48-72 hours, whenever the moratorium is pulled) as it were.

I don’t understand how the Kings were caught unprepared here. I’m not surprised by this. There’s no fucking way on God’s Green Earth, Satan’s playpen or anywhere in between there including the 12th of never that Monte McNair and Wes Wilcox couldn’t have seen this coming.

Anyone who understood what “agreed in principle” knew that it was not finalized. How does one expect McNair to do anything substantial if he can’t figure this out? There’s nothing that difficult or shocking about this.

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November 18, 2020 5:06 pm
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I guess I’m not really seeing it. The process here is dictated primarily by the player and the team he’s looking to sign with – the player clearly threw the monkey wrench here, and the deal gets torpedoed.

No shame in this from the Kings perspective, IMO.