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Richaun Holmes is still likely to stay in Sacramento, per report

The latest chatter suggest the Kings may keep their starting center.

NBA free agency begins today at 3 PM PT. Deal won't be made official until August 6th, but we're sure to see a flurry of agreements over the next couple of days. For the Sacramento Kings, all eyes have been on the market for Richaun Holmes. Now, according to The Athletic's Jason Jones, the current chatter suggests Holmes is likely to stay in Sacramento.

A league source said the chatter among league executives is that Holmes is likely staying in Sacramento, but as last week’s failed trade with the Lakers showed, things can change quickly in the NBA. If another team offers Holmes something north of four years and $60 million, that might be enough to get him out of Sacramento, especially if the Kings cannot shed more salary and create space to offer Holmes a bigger deal.

If this sounds familiar, it's because we heard a similar report just a few days ago. But considering how quickly things can change in the free agency landscape, it's still worth noting that the news is staying consistent.

Barring some cap-clearing trades, the Kings main mechanism to retain Holmes is to re-sign him using his Early Bird Rights. Our Tim Maxwell previously broke down those numbers here.

Retaining Holmes is important to the Kings' playoff hopes for next season. If the Kings lose Holmes, they've been reported as having interest in Nerlens Noel as a replacement, but Noel would be a downgrade over what Holmes has brought to the Kings.

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RobHessing
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August 2, 2021 8:54 am

If the market dries up for Holmes (and Dragic to Toronto could eliminate a prime destination for him), he could take the early bird deal or sacrifice a million-plus and security to take a 1 year MLE and hit free agency again next year (my guess is that he would take the former over the latter).

I like watching Holmes play, and his parents seem to be the only adults in the room on Twitter. At the price that the Kings can pay, Holmes would be a very nice deal.

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August 2, 2021 8:57 am
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I actually believe Holmes when he says he loves Sacramento and really wants to stay here. 99.9% of the time, it is stupid to bank on an athlete’s loyalty outweighing the desire for financial gain (and who can blame them?). In Holmes’ case, the 0.1% might actually be correct.

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August 2, 2021 9:12 am
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Part of me wonders if the possible acquisition of Tristan Thompson may give Holmes second thoughts about staying. TT will likely eat into Holmes’ minutes, especially if Metu and Jones are retained. Could Holmes possibly be thinking, “they are already trying to replace me.”

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August 2, 2021 9:15 am
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If you saw Thompson play last year, you would have no worries about TT getting Holmes’ minutes. Only an idiot would give Thompson floor time over Holmes.comment image
Er…um…never mind.

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August 2, 2021 9:17 am
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I also think only an idiot would trade for TT and his contract, yet here we are.

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August 2, 2021 9:19 am
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Well, the ink is not dry yet on that deal. Maybe he backs out or gets something better???????

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August 2, 2021 9:30 am
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Nothing like dodging a bullet despite the best/worst effort of our FO. Hope springs eternal.

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August 2, 2021 1:20 pm
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So if Holmes re-signs, it’s in spite of the front office?

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August 2, 2021 1:22 pm
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Am I talking about Holmes? I am talking about TT.

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August 2, 2021 11:30 am
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Maybe TT does not want to come here, and Monte has to rework this deal…we can only hope.

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August 2, 2021 12:14 pm
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I’ve been trying to stay patient but I must say the more time that goes by the more I suspect McNair is another dud. Not ready to pass a final judgement, he’ll get at least another year out of me to show his stuff, but I haven’t felt very inspired the past two offseasons or at the trade deadline.

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August 2, 2021 9:31 am
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I think there is zero percent chance this is in his consideration about signing with Kings. There’s a million other reasons to be concerned about tying yourself to the Kings for 4 years.

If Holmes is actually worried about losing minutes to Tristan Thompson, then he is free to go.

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August 2, 2021 12:09 pm
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If Holmes is losing minutes to Tristan Thompson, he isn’t worth a minimum deal let alone a deal around 4/48. (Assuming the new deal starts around 10.7 million, Holmes will make about 60 K under 48 million. 47,936,000 to be exact. I calculated this using 8% raises as teams with EBR’s are allowed to do Tim, and yes, I’ve been doing this longer than you boyo. I know what I’m doing.)

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August 2, 2021 10:56 am
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I believe him, but I believe if there was a larger deal out there, he’d still take it. Sounds like that may not be the case.

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August 2, 2021 9:38 am
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How many years before Sacramento has his full bird rights?

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August 2, 2021 9:44 am
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One. They can do a contract with a player option the 2nd year and then have full Bird rights.

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August 2, 2021 12:35 pm
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Can’t do that. The contract has to be at least 2 years in length specifically to avoid teams using the EBR’s to avoid the scenario you presented.

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August 2, 2021 1:17 pm
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Could do a 1+1 however, with a player option, different route but you get to the same place (with a tad more security than a plain old one year deal.)

Thats sort of what I expect to happen if in fact he stays (1+1, player option)

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August 2, 2021 1:45 pm
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You can’t do that unless you already have a guy like LeBron on a max deal and you aren’t renouncing his Bird Rights.

If you renounce Holmes to get him to a bigger contract number to get him on this 1 + 1 scenario, that player has to have a large contract already to work. That’s why it worked for LeBron. If you are signing a large enough deal, there’s not much difference in having non-Bird, early-Bird or full-Bird rights. The max is the max is the max. It’s why Kawhi Leonard signed a 2 year deal. The max is the max is the max.

Also, if you renounce Holmes EBR’s, you reset his Bird clock to 3 years down the line. I just don’t see any way that scenario works unless I’m missing something (which I might be).

I suppose it’s possible your scenario comes into play using the MLE but that starts at a lower salary and with less security and Holmes would have to be betting on himself to get a better payday in 2022 than he is this summer. I doubt that happens.

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August 2, 2021 8:54 am

I will stay pessimistic because every time I get my hopes up about this team, they come crashing down. when the ink is dry, I will decide how I want to feel about it.

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August 2, 2021 8:58 am
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Same.

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August 2, 2021 1:47 pm
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From your lips to God’s ears.

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August 2, 2021 8:55 am

Fingers crossed some desperate team doesn’t throw a huge overpay at Holmes, which, ironically, is what the Kangz would probably do if they were looking for a center.

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August 2, 2021 8:59 am
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August 2, 2021 1:37 pm
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Pictured: Delon Wrong. 🙁

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August 2, 2021 8:57 am

Words.

We shall see.

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August 2, 2021 8:57 am

If we can hold onto Richaun for 2 to 4 years this FA, you know what I’ll be saying?

“We won! We won! We won we won we won!”

Looking forward to (hopefully) securing Mr. Holmes for many years to come!

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August 2, 2021 9:02 am

Getting Holmes on the Early Bird Deal would be a great coup for Monte. Whether a stroke of blind luck or not, it would be a big win for him and the FO.

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August 2, 2021 9:11 am

So, if we keep Holmes but also end up keeping Buddy and Bagley, how many “Kings insiders” and local folks will be declaring victory?

HC – Luke Walton

Fox/Mitchell
Hali/Buddy
Barnes/Moe
Bagley/Metu
Holmes/(TT)Jones
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August 2, 2021 9:12 am
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12th seed here we come!!!

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August 2, 2021 9:20 am
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“We need to see this play out for another year. Last year we did a couple of really nice things, taking the BPA in the draft and locking up Holmes. Those are good things and we need another year to evaluate those important moves and see what Luke can do with them.”

– A bunch of media folks on April 14, 2022

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August 2, 2021 9:24 am
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Yikes

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August 2, 2021 9:35 am
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It takes time to build as a team, as players, as a coach, as a GM, but with us sticking together like we said, if you cut those nine-game losing streaks into 3-6, or hell, even 2-7, you know we’re in an entirely different position and that’s already being built upon from where we were last year to where we are this year.

– A franchise player in May 2020.

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August 2, 2021 9:52 am
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Ugh. I’m surprised how open I am to trading Fox for Ben Simmons, and this quote (and the mentality it implies) are a significant reason why. We need more insanely competitive, steaming-angry-when-losing players on this team. I’m glad we drafted Davion Mitchell for this reason alone.

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August 2, 2021 10:02 am
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Current team makeup is soft, more than happy to “cashing them checks”

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August 2, 2021 11:07 am
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I posted this 2 days ago on another thread. The more the draft shock wears away, the more I am open to a Fox for Simmons trade. Hell, then target Miles Turner with Buddy and Barnes and a pick?

Davion
Hali
Simmon
Turner
Barnes

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August 2, 2021 11:09 am
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Didn’t you just trade Barnes away?

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August 2, 2021 11:59 am

He probably means Holmes.

Very rough spacing in that squad lol

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August 2, 2021 12:29 pm
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I think fox is trying not to lose his mind as the kangz franchise player. He can’t carry the team so he probably just doesn’t want to hate his job. Simmons would be good, but if you’re looking for someone who is less complacent I don’t know if he’s the guy either
I really wish fox didn’t advocate so strongly for Luke though. That was a bit disappointing

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August 2, 2021 1:22 pm
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This shit again.

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August 2, 2021 4:22 pm
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I wouldn’t stay married to someone if I had no respect for them, and they were having a negative effect on my mental health, and my life in general. If you feel that you deserve better, I encourage you to make that happen. You aren’t so objectionable that you don’t deserve to be happy.

You aren’t happy here. For a lot of people, you’ll never be happy here.

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August 2, 2021 4:57 pm
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Context, shmontext.

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August 2, 2021 9:56 am
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Moe? Did we resign Harkless?

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August 2, 2021 9:57 am
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Yup. Like I said, we were big FA winners in this scenario!

😉

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August 2, 2021 10:05 am
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Thank god I’m like the Al Bundy of sport’s fanning and can just live on the memories of 99-2004. Otherwise I would just continue to be miserable

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August 2, 2021 9:54 am

Which member has been saying this? Hmm …

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August 2, 2021 10:02 am
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Could the holdup of the TT deal hinge on a possible 76ers deal? Buddy, TT and filler for Tobias?

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August 2, 2021 10:07 am
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Can filler=Bagley please?

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August 2, 2021 10:59 am
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I was actually for a Buddy/Delon package for Tobias. I think Delon makes sense for what Philly needs too.

Buddy, Delon, Bagley for Tobias/filler would be a great add.

I just want HB and Tobias together as our wings.

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August 2, 2021 11:15 am
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Delon could be a great piece to any package for better talent, which is why it is so maddening that he would be traded straight up for TT.

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August 2, 2021 11:25 am
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Agreed, I thought Delon could have netted Lonzo in a S&T or someone who provides an upgrade like Tobias Harris.

I sure hope McNair isnt being pushed around in negotiations. I am speculating, but maybe McNair is asking for more for Delon now.

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August 2, 2021 12:25 pm
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Buddy + Delon also works in a trade for Tobias Harris as well, FWIW.

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August 2, 2021 1:35 pm
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So does Buddy & Thompson.

It’s kind of funny seeing so much recent praise for beloved franchise fixture Delon Wright, now that he can’t be sent to Philly to get Harris. I guess I don’t understand why suddenly, the monkey wrench in getting Tobias Harris is because Wright has already been traded. Not because Harris is one of the best at his position, but because not getting back Delon Wright is a deal-breaker for Philadelphia.

I like Wright’s game, and liked having him on the roster, but I didn’t notice much discussion about his being the linchpin in deals to acquire vastly superior players. Until now.

No idea how this is going to shake out, but feel confident that whatever happens, it won’t have much to do with the disposition of Delon Wright.

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August 2, 2021 1:38 pm
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You should ask those specific individuals who you feel are being hypocritical on the subject.

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August 2, 2021 1:48 pm
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Technically Sims, Wright hasn’t been traded yet. So, if that’s the case, there’s a possibility that Wright could be included in that deal and the Kings end up with Tristan Thompson anyway.

That’s why I’m waiting to see what the roster ultimately looks like before commenting.

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August 2, 2021 12:24 pm
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Keep in mind Harris is making 35.995 million this season. You would need Buddy + Bagley just to get in the range of being able to legally make that deal. Or, you would also need to include a larger contract like a Tristan Thompson but the tricky part about that is if the Kings are over the cap when they trade for TT (assuming that’s still happening), they can’t trade him for 60 days with another player UNLESS they are under the cap in which case that wouldn’t apply.

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August 2, 2021 12:58 pm
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Unless the TT deal with ATL and Boston is expanded as part of a 4 team deal that includes Philly.

Delon goes to ATL and TT is routed to Philly along with Buddy and Bagley.

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August 2, 2021 1:40 pm
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That’s the other scenario in play, as well, Adam.

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August 2, 2021 4:24 pm
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I know Harris catches a lot of grief, but I would much, much prefer this deal over getting TT for no one knows why.

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TT is routed to Philly along with Buddy and Bagley

Can you make this happen? I’ll even buy you a beer!

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August 2, 2021 10:07 am
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They take Buddy and Bagley and we get Tobias and their 2022 first round pick? I would take that… otherwise I don’t think salaries work as buddy is like 22 mill and Harris is 32 mill

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August 2, 2021 10:08 am
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Um, why are we getting their 1st in that scenario?

I’d be ecstatic just to get Harris for Buddy/Bagley and we might need to give up future considerations to get it done!

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August 2, 2021 10:26 am
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Very much this 😂

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August 2, 2021 11:21 am
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Because I want to be greedy and feel like we need something of value for Bagley, besides salary filler. I’d be happy with just getting Harris for Buddy and Bagley. We desperately need another player tht can play the 3/4 role tht Barnes plays

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August 2, 2021 10:12 am
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I don’t think the 76ers include any kind of pick.

I’d like to see Buddy, Bagley and TT for Harris and Seth Curry. It works numbers wise.

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August 2, 2021 10:57 am
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Personally, I think Tobias is a bit overrated (after being underrated the vast majority of his career) and his contract is ugly (I’m just generally not a huge fan of paying max dollars to a player that isn’t a high level ball handler and/or a elite defender), BUT this does give the Kings an upgrade as Harris is basically the better version of Barnes and frees up Barnes a bit for use as a trade asset.

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August 2, 2021 11:05 am

It’s a massive overpay for sure. I just think there are only so many ways that the Kings can upgrade the talent on the roster before the season.

Fox/Mitchell
Hali/Delon or TD
Barnes
Harris/Metu
Holmes/Jones

I see that as a talent upgrade that actually puts them in a position to overcome Luke Walton and compete for the playoffs.

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August 2, 2021 11:17 am
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I’m realizing that I’m getting to the point where my standards are dropping. I don’t think Harris is a great player and he’s WAY overpaid IMO, but at this point I really just want to see some kind of substantive move towards some kind of coherent vision. It doesn’t have to be my personal favorite vision. Just something that gives evidence that there’s a viable plan in place. Then maybe a move or three that acknowledges that the current team isn’t good enough and some relatively significant changes are needed to find success.

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August 2, 2021 11:21 am

Same. A year ago I would have taken a hard pass on Tobias. Now, I just want some kind of evidence that proves to me that the front office acknowledges that the current construct of the team is pathetic and drastic changes need to be made.

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August 2, 2021 11:05 am

Plus his contract would come off the books if and when Hali would need to be extended. For me he doesn’t really hurt the Kings cap future, especially with the cap likely to go up and teams handing out $50M a year extensions.

I have to say a Fox, Hali, Barnes, Harris, Holmes lineup may the best we’ve seen since the glory years.

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August 2, 2021 1:52 pm
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No way in hell they are including Seth Curry in a deal to us.

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August 2, 2021 4:26 pm
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100% agreed.

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August 2, 2021 5:00 pm
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They’d need him to back up Hield, or as a third guard in a small-ball offense alongside Buddy.

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August 2, 2021 9:58 am

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August 2, 2021 10:00 am

Maybe Monte could pull a Pelinka and pull out of the trade at the last minute.

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August 2, 2021 1:05 pm
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August 2, 2021 10:12 am

hashtag not my money

I am totally cool with 4/$50m. $12.5 per works for me!

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August 2, 2021 10:20 am
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That would be a great value contract, but I have to think Holmes could make more than that elsewhere.

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August 2, 2021 10:23 am
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So what you’re saying is Holmes will find a new Holme?

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August 2, 2021 11:58 am
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Excellent.

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August 2, 2021 12:00 pm
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He’s on the move. #MobileHolmes

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August 2, 2021 1:03 pm
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Holmeward Bound
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August 2, 2021 1:20 pm
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People keep saying we need more dogs on the team.

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August 2, 2021 1:41 pm

WOOF.

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August 2, 2021 2:10 pm

I thought we needed more G.O.A.T.s?

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August 2, 2021 1:06 pm
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It’s going to suck being Holme-less.

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August 2, 2021 1:20 pm
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Oh he’s got multiple options, it’s definitely Holmes.

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August 2, 2021 10:25 am
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I think there is a lot of speculation on the market for him but I doubt anyone really knows how robust it will be.

We shall see.

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August 2, 2021 10:26 am
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It all depends. He is not a first tier FA, and the teams with $ will be making moves for better players. He could wind up being a plan B for a team like NY, SA or Dal.

The “nice” thing about the early bird rights is that it basically forces the Kings into offering a fair value deal, roughly $47m (give or take) over four years. If anyone can beat that, my guess is that Holmes is gone, and the Kings avoid a massive overpay to retain him.

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August 2, 2021 10:52 am
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Think your right. Market feels really shallow for him right now. Dallas would seem out based on centers already on roster, unless they magically move Zinger. San Antonio has Poeltl for couple more years at a good number. He’s a decent starter. Doesn’t feel like lots more value getting Holmes. Possible though. Spurs have to spend money on something just to get to salary floor.

New York seems like most realistic place left, they have Mitchell Robinson already for one year and his free agency coming up. Wouldn’t feel like guaranteed starter there. They could do a 4-60, but they will be likely spending their time on targeting other players the first couple days of free agency. Does Richaun want to wait?

Richaun could wait and see if any of those develop after a few days and those teams whiff. I would guess Kings offer will always be there even if he is left with them as only option. If he wants to start for sure and play 30 mins a night, while getting decent money seems like his most likely destination.

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My thoughts as well. That said one of these guard chasing teams could zag with their space. I think we will have a good estimation by the end of today. As offer sheets tie up books and or deals are announced, and quick if not already agreed to back up plans become signed. After the new car price barrage this afternoon I think it will be clear who will be his market.

I second Rob’s previous point. The Kings are in a relatively good position. They have a fair offer tabled that everyone can live with. If its beat it might not be wise business for us and we make do.

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