Marvin Bagley made a recent appearance on the Halfway Decent Podcast to discuss a variety of topics, including the incident a couple weeks ago when Marvin liked a tweet saying he needed out of Sacramento. Our own Brenden Nunes isolated the clip in question:
“I [liked the tweet] after watching Trae go for 50 in the playoffs, and they winning. As a competitor, it just made me want to get to that…”
– Marvin Bagley on his liked tweet pic.twitter.com/hxuJWHmwyP
— Brenden Nunes (@BrendenNunesNBA) July 6, 2021
Bagley begins his defense by arguing that “it’s my twitter” and “I can like whatever I choose or please”.
Ok Marvin, that’s perfectly fine. Nobody is arguing otherwise. But as a public figure, people are going to notice what you say or what you like and they will react to it. “It’s my twitter I can do what I want” is the lame argument people use when they think the First Amendment shields them from getting fired. You can say whatever you’d like, you can like whatever tweets you like, but people are going to react accordingly.
Bagley then goes on to say he liked it because he had just finished watching Trae Young drop 50 in the playoffs and Marvin is such a competitor that he just has to get there himself. This ignores the fact that Marvin Bagley was drafted second overall in a stacked draft class because the Kings wanted Marvin to help them get there! Bagley has had bad luck with injuries, but even when he’s been on the floor he’s failed to live up to his draft position. Liking a tweet saying you need out of Sacramento and then saying you only did it because you desperately want to make the playoffs means that Marvin has completely missed the point that he is a big reason why the Kings aren’t in the playoffs.
It’s not particularly hard for a player to spin this type of situation, especially when it’s been nearly two weeks since it happened. Accept responsibility for your actions, or just don’t say anything at all. The worst thing Bagley could have done is this interview. There was no sense in reigniting a discussion that was already done. There was no benefit to opening your mouth only to reinsert your foot.
At the end of the day, Bagley made a bad decision to try to defend himself and shirk any responsibility, and he did it poorly.
Unless there is a significant trade in which Marvin MUST be a part of, make him play off the bench where he belongs and provides something!
Or just trade him straight for Bamba… I’m so broken that I don’t care…
I’d be stoked for a Bamba Bagley trade
Plenty of guys that need a change of scenery options, best of which is Mamba.
Knox is another one.
Knox needs a change of league.
yes he does. How does G sound?
There have been guys who averaged 15 a game as a rookie and went on to star but not our Marvin. is it worth another try?
Put him on the bench and use him situationally. The situation being no defense required and soft players defending him.
Every time he does something stupid, waste a time out to stop the game and invite him to sit back on the bench.
Not only is Marvin bad at playing defense in a basketball court, but he’s also bad at defending himself off the court! Sheesh! I guess Bagley is just bad at defense in general.
Is it though? I’m not convinced.
He’s doing everything he can except outright demanding a trade. He’s intentionally keeping this BS in the headlines. He needs to be gone draft night.
Injury report: Marvin Bagley, foot in mouth, day to day.
https://www.cdc.gov/hand-foot-mouth/index.html
Right hand fail
“Let’s get this podcast started!
Would you like to hear my latest track? My style is bubble rap.”
So….who’s feeling more left out these days? 😉
Thanks Vlade.
Luka and Booker shoulder be pictured instead in purple.
Actual documentation of one the rare moments Bagley is in a uniform and ready to play.
Like finding proof of aliens on earth.
I just can’t get excited about a zoomer liking a tweet. It’s not a medium that inspires rational thought.
Marvin you have to be healthy, contribute, and play better, if you “want to be there” otherwise you are holding back your team from “being there”, not the other way around.
We would’ve been better off if we didn’t luck into the second pick. Would’ve had a better player right now if Vlade had to choose someone that would’ve been in that range.
we are going to be getting peanuts ultimately for this number 2 overall pick.
I’m pretty sure somewhere in the old STR archives I said if we were going to do something stupid like pass on Doncic at 2 we might as well just snag JJJ or Mikal Bridges at 2. I LOVED Bridges going into the draft and I wanted the Kings to take him if we’d stayed at 7. Looks like he might get to win a title this year so things certainly worked out for him.
The Suns were a lottery team in 2018 with a worse record than the Kings and now they might win an NBA championship while we’re still stuck in never-ending quicksand.
JJJ was the only acceptable alternative to me. I liked him a lot. I thought there were a lot of prospects that were better than Bagley (who I ranked #9), but I thought Luka & JJJ were the only prospects that’d be an acceptable pick.
There’s not much difference to this point between the 2. I think JJJ has played about 8 more games than Bagley and has about the same stats, so what’s the appeal? #genuinelycurious
I wouldn’t agree with “about the same stats.” Literally, the only stat Bagley has an advantage in is rebounding. Jackson is a significantly better shooter, defender, and has shown more playmaking ability. I’d say the appeal is that JJJ has a modern game and has shown more of an ability to have a positive impact on the floor. Further, by stretching the floor and protecting the rim, he does things that make the game easier for his teammates. His injuries have definitely dimmed his star a bit, but he’s still among the top 7 or so guys in their draft class. Meanwhile, Bagley would probably have a tough time cracking the top 20 in a redraft.
If that’s the case, I’d be fine with letting him walk and using the money on Richaun Holmes.
The sad reality of it is, Bagley could have very well still been there at #7 and we’d be in the same place as we are today.
Hey, at least peanuts have nutritional value. Don’t knock peanuts.
5 bucks says if the Kings stayed put, they would have take Michael Porter Jr
The guy we should have picked is dragging his fairly weak team to the playoffs, and not whining about wanting to ride someone else’s coat tails. If you want some of that, stop being so uncoachable and play better.
I don’t blame anyone for wanting to leave the Kings. And say whatever you want, but free speech is not speech without consequences. The only thing worse than Bagley’s sense of responsibility is his
passing defense right handpassing.Fun(?) fact: Luka Doncic has earned $112k per regular season game played in his career. Marvin Bagley? $210k.
Could’ve had Trae instead, also!
Could have had about 10 different guys who be waaay better than Bags.
I don’t hold it against Bags, though he does need to take personal responsibility for his game/attitude etc. But I’d want out too.
Piece of shit Owner and organization drafted a shit prospect in today’s NBA when anyone could see he wouldn’t be worth it. Then Sac doesn’t trade him/holds on trying to convince us/themselves that Marvin is the greatest and/or will become great.
Give me a Fucking break. I could see he was useless the moment he stepped on the court for summer league. Too many issues, and we didn’t even know about his injury problems and difficulty fitting into this team.
Get rid of him for a bagley if chips. And make Vivek leave too.
No editing by me
Should say 10 guys who were way better than Bagley
and-A Bagely of Chips
If Bags took responsibility for his game/attitude he wouldn’t want out, he’d want to be a better player.
Now do dollars per pass!
I’m guessing it’d be like:
Luka: $100 per pass
Bagley: $8,000,000 per pass
Marvin Bagley: Hard pass.
MB3 scored close to 15 ppg in his rookie year- Many players have used that as a springboard to improve and, by year 3, to become a significant contributer and force in the NBA. However, MB3 has regressed or plateaued. Injuries are a part of it but there does not seem to be visual progress. JJJ drafted at 4 has improved.
I really want him to do well. Give him another year? or is this foolish?
Right now his league value is so low.
It does seem like one of the salaries has to get moved to re-sign Holmes.
Another note- draft- last year Grizz traded 2 future seconds for #30 with Celts. Turned into Desmond Bane. A few teams have a couple of low first round picks.
In second round I like Vrenz Bliegenbergh but Thunder with picks 16, 18,34 and 36 all pick before Kings at 39. Goodbye Vrenz.
This is a good reminder that when talking about future potential and development, HOW the prospect scores is just as, if not more, important than HOW MUCH they score.
Nah…….This Bagley guy just never get it……..
He still think he is the best player of the world…better than Young and Doncic…..he still think if he was given enough touches, and more field goal attempt…then he can carry this team to playoff……..
He may still thinking he is a MVP candidate….
This guy is a complete toxic to this team……..
just trade this cancer away even selling low…….
Biggest failure on the kings part in the last ten years wasn’t drafting Bagley in my opinion.
It was not keeping Jabari Parker around longer to mentor Bagley.
Jason Thompson is only 34 years old. Bring him back as a veteran mentor!
Wow.
Old World.
Biggest failure on the Kings part was being saddled with a terrible owner.
I agree but Bagley clearly hasn’t been taught how to behave as a bust. Jabari was sent by god for that purpose and we sent him away.
I’d like to hear the arguments for Vivek as a good owner from the downvotes. Head in sand anyone?
Whoever had the downvote know I respect it just please tell me you can tell chasm when you see it.
Sarcasm
Yeah that’s what I said.
I am no expert on basketball skills but sure don’t like this attitude one bit. Though this behavior could be from bad parenting too-having your father who unconditionally praises you and put you on this fragile pedestal that solely focuses on sports your entire life with no regards to self and social awareness. I hope 4 years and 35+ millions not-so-hard-earned $$ later he can finally take some personal responsibility for once in his life.
Marvin Bagley is bad.
Do we really need any more articles about him? Unless of course the article is confirming his being traded away
This conversation is another example why basketball IQ and human IQ are meaningful contributors toward a successful basketball career.
Yep. This is why teams with high draft picks should not draft prospects who are “raw” and “need to learn the game” but have a lot of athleticism. There’s a risk they’re just weak thinkers who can jump high. Do NBA teams ever give prospects a Wonderlic-style test, or put them through some form of cognitive evaluation?
Yeah, we all watched Trae Young drop 50 and wish things were different, too.
I am not inclined to listen to the pod but the natural followup to his response he “wanted to get to where Trae was” would be: “Understandably so and how much responsibility do you take that your team has not gotten there, nowhere close to the conference finals or the playoffs?” “What accountability do you personally take, Marvin, for the collective failure of the team?”
But as I have said, who cares. Even if Marvin apologized or said he loved SAC, loved his teammates and coaches and fans, I would not want him on the team. Not even coming off the bench. It is not personal, it is business, he is not a good player. How much his attitude or immaturity played into this performance is debatable, but that does not matter when the performance level is unacceptable.
Why do fans want him coming off the bench? So he can destroy the chemistry and cohesion that group was trying to build like he did with the starters?
A good gauge for a quality bench player is someone who can spot start in event of an injury or finish games in event of the starter fouling and the team barely misses a beat over short duration. Marvin has not played well enough at any point of his career to indicate he could be spot starter or be trusted in crunch time.
Slow read, slow defensive rotations, easily beat on the perimeter, poor closeouts, no go-to post move. He resorts to shooting the 3 because he has no face up moves, no crossover, no right hand, no counters when the defense takes away his left. His spin move works 1 every 4 times. He has a decent half hook but does a poor job sealing and holding space to get many clean looks.
Because he is so vanilla as a scorer, relying on athleticism and quickness, he does not garner enough attention or gravity or doubles to be a decoy to set up teammates. And when passing angles do present themselves he misses them. And just because his coach allows him to shoot the 3 does not mean 29 other teams are happy to allow him to shoot it as well.
There, I wrote a quick synopsis on his game that has nothing to do with his personality or attitude. So even if he had the best personality and attitude he still sucks.
The problem is by telegraphing his preference it makes harder for the GM to accomodate his wishes. That is the real stupidity on his part. All he had to do was shutup until the trade was announced. And there is no reason to imply we are “holding him hostage” when we already tried to get rid of him for Sediq Bey.
Trying to do “damage or spin control” saying he just wants to get to the playoffs is better than placing the blame to the team for his failure though because if he continued to play the victim it would give any potential acquiring team one more reason to be tentative. This is one time that honesty is not the best policy.
The reason there was zero follow-up was b/c he only has addressed this on his own podcast. Whoever the guy is that hosts it, is employed by MBIII. Thus, zero follow-up.
As a competitior’
Lol.
Nothing he said in that two minute clip matches what he’s done in three years as a King. Simple as that.
Freaking Bagley, what a joke. You can only laugh at the clown and his apologists. He’s a loser and typical of his generation. A true Alibi Ike, never takes accountability for his actions or incredibly stupid comments. Sit and spin to the biggest bust since Pervis Ellison.
And all this time I thought it was his bbiq that was low…
Why is this news? You all had a weekend off and not a single word about Rachel Nichols. Get your priorities straight people!!
Okay, I know it’s just the regular season, but Marvin dropped 59! in 2019-2020.
Oh points, not games? NM.
Bagley’s self-awareness might be lower than his BBIQ. Which is a pretty damn impressive accomplishment.
If he’s still on the roster come opening night, boos will be cascading down the G1C (provided he’s healthy enough to actually play).
I am just curious how many % of Kings fans still support this guy after all those drama ?
I hope we will not see him in Opening night as a Kings player, otherwise, pls help me to boo him.
Marvin can’t fathom that people might react to what is said or liked on Twitter?
He does realize his team had a different play-by-play guy when he was drafted, right?
Nothing he says or does is worth clicking to find out what it is.
I feel like a major context point is missing here. Its his own goddamn podcast. He dictates what the topics are and he chose this. Part of his new entertainment venture. This dude needs a conservatorship
Stupid is as stupid does. The fact is that Bagley, based on all the evidence we have available, just isn’t very smart. His basketball IQ correlates with the rest of his IQ.
Britney’s dad available?
Everything about Marvin Bagley that we’ve seen up to this point….
…suggests he lacks self-awareness, self-discipline, powers of reflection, critical thinking skills, planning skills, foresight, and (basketball) IQ. These latest tone-deaf, boneheaded comments are completely in character for him. This is who he is.
Hopefully there is at least one team in the league that doesn’t realize it and is willing to trade a bag of chips for him.
But he said he’s a competitor didn’t he?!
Clown….
The sad thing is he actually sat and thought about this for a week, then decided to bring it up on his own podcast, and thought he actually had a good explanation. It’s like he was looking at his foot for over a week, then pointed a gun at it and pulled the trigger thinking it was empty but never actually checking the chamber.
I doubt he actually thought about it for a week¦.he started that comment on the podcast by blaming his lame a*s situation on the kings/fan base/everyone on tweeter/medical staff/golden 1 center’s shining new floor but then decided to walk back that comment by mentioning it was his competitor spirit that got him so fire up.
I am so fed up with this clownish and childish behavior. For all the dumb things this team has done, the kings has not been late paying his salary, get him medical treatment, etc. And in return to a faithful and dutiful employer, this irresponsible employee just trash talk his entire workplace and not once talk about his own contribution
I too am fed up. I’ve tried to be a fan of his. My wife is a casual fan who watches about half the games and decided to buy his jersey his rookie season. She has never turned on a single player in her life, not Willie, not Buddy, nobody. But we have both had enough of is entitled and privileged attitude. His jersey is currently on top of a heap of clothes at our local Goodwill.
It just shows how dumb he is as a person. Doesn’t change my opinion of him in any way. As I’ve stated for months, I’d buy him out if he would accept.
If he is going to go full stupid why not also try to explain his daddy’s Twitter drama?
You have to think that even what he’s shown to date Bagley is a easily a better player at the end of his third year than previous King’s draft picks: Jimmer Fredette, Thomas Robinson, Nick Stauskis, Georgios Papagiannis, Spencer Hawes, Quincy Douby and on a par with or better than: Ben McLemore, Jason Thompson, Willy Cauley-Stein and Francisco Garcia. That leaves DeMarcus Cousins, De Aaron Fox, Tyreke Evans and, from the second round Isiah Thomas as clearly better at the end of their third years (Tyrese Haliburton only has one year in). I’m fine with giving MBIII another year with the Kings. Tyreke Evans was ROY in 2010, but of that draft class, Blake Griffin, James Hardin, Ricky Rubio, Stephan Curry and Jru Holliday all played in the playoffs (or play-in) this year and DeMar DeRozan was close.
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