Hey Happy Saturday! If you’re reading this, there’s a game in just a couple of hours. If you’re reading this and didn’t surmise that from the title of this preview, I would recommend either pouring yourself another cup of coffee or going to see a neurologist. The Kings are going to be screwing with your weekend schedule both Saturday AND Sunday, so if you’re planning on doing yardwork or spring cleaning today or before the “Avoid the Super Bowl at all costs” noon time game tomorrow, I’d say you’d better get to cracking. Yes, the Kings are going to be playing two games in less than a 24 hour window – today’s contest features the Nuggets, a twice bitten championship contender and then in LA for a battle against the Clippers.
I’m not going to put the cart before the horse here – while the Nuggets have gotten bested by the Kings twice already this season, they’re still one of the very best in the NBA, playing with an MVP frontrunner in Nikola Jokic and being coached by a man who absolutely still has it out for his old team. Can the Kings hit the .500 mark and sweep the Nuggets in one fell swoop? Has anyone asked De’Aaron Fox how that hip is? …. Okay well, I’m not saying one damn positive statement until he says he isn’t hurting and you can’t make me!
Let’s talk Kings Basketball!
When: Saturday, February 6th, 2:00 PM PST
Where: Golden 1 Center, Sacramento, CA
TV: NBCSCA – Mark Jones on the call.
Radio: KHTK Sports 1140 AM
For Your Consideration
The Conditions of Love: There’s this line from a beautiful little movie called “The Last Black Man in San Francisco” that’s been stuck in my head for a while now. In the film, a native of the city is on a bus, listening to two transplants complain about the city and their poor housing situation and tech jobs etc. He stops them mid conversation and tells them “You don’t get to hate San Francisco” – to which he is rebuffed. He follows up by asking them if they love it and when they blow him off he imparts upon them:
“You don’t get to hate it unless you love it.”
I spend the better part of my time here espousing my amateur opinions, trying to make you laugh a little and trying to get enough conversation going that Akis and Greg still see the value in allowing me to rant like a lunatic to you about whatever I please and when I see fit. I have rarely been hopeful about this team’s direction and rarer still have I written about it. I mean, I did once in a 30Q about “What If Vlade’s Right?” and I got clowned on pretty hard. I got a good laugh from people thinking I was on drugs for believing. Then, Dave Joerger threw away the playbook, told everyone to run like hell, and I was… well I was kinda right. That was absolutely the last time and I promise it won’t happen again.
Recently, I’ve had a couple of conversations that brought this quote I was talking about back to the forefront of my mind. One was with a guy I wanted to be just like at 16 and he was talking about how frustrating some of De’Aaron Fox’s finer points can be, specifically when he turns the ball over and just gets sloppy. Fox is someone I know he loves, but he found himself being critical of him to the point where he had to interject “and I love Fox!”. Another conversation was with the owner of a site that couldn’t be any different than ours but who makes the Kings his life and at least some of his livelihood. He asked how upset I, as an unabashed supporter of tanking, would be if the Kings made the playoffs. It was a good question, with an obvious answer. I wouldn’t. Aiming for a playoff spot isn’t what I would do, but I wouldn’t have fired Mike Malone or traded DeMarcus Cousins or had Rajon Rondo anywhere near this team. I still root for this team to win every night, I just want to see them win a lot more for a lot longer period of time and I’m willing to sacrifice that happiness in the short run. It’s a strategy for success, not THE strategy. Lastly, I had a discussion with a colleague, both on Twitter and privately, regarding the principles of trading Harrison Barnes and the variety of implications that has on draft picks, player attitudes, historical precedent. He took his lumps from plenty of people on Twitter and dished out some himself. It’s 2:30 in the morning and judging by the notification on my phone, we’re technically still having this conversation and the thing of it is, no one can even be proven right in this particular discussion.
This team pisses me off sometimes. Historically bad defensive stretches, bad coaching and player mismanagement, player slumps and a million missed opportunities can do that. We argue in the comments with strangers, or on Twitter with radio hosts or Instagram video breakdown specialists, or in long text messages with the guy who got you courtside tickets to the California Classic for free. It doesn’t matter as long as we get to rant about this godforsaken team. Most of the time, it’s one short-term pessimistic take vs. a long-term pessimistic take and it is so, so much effort that is being dragged out of each of us for a team that hasn’t won a damn thing in fourteen season. The glimpses of happiness, like our recent run of success are even dampened by that cloud of “we know what happens when we get hopeful” and we get frustrated that we can’t even enjoy the good stuff without seeing the end of the party coming up quick. Yet, here I am, 2:50 in the morning now, still wanting to talk about this team that makes themselves so hard to love most of the time. And I want to do it with commenters, twitter trolls, haters, Jerry Reynolds and anyone else who wants to talk about the Kings. I love the passion of ever single dummy and secret genius alike – even when tempers get up, or points get misinterpreted or god forbid, someone says something I truly disagree with. I don’t need to sing campfire songs and hold hands. I don’t even need you to acknowledge my points 98% of the time (gold jersey opinions excluded) or apologize if things get gnarly. I get it.
In a million different ways, for a million different reasons, we hate this team sometimes.
But we get to.
Because its painfully obvious from every conversation I have about them with all of you, we also absolutely love them.
Post Malone: Okay I guess we can talk about the game a little bit now. The Nuggets are exactly who you know them to be by now. Nikola Jokic is one of the Top 5 players on the planet right now, the team is scoring the fourth most points in the NBA even though they’re going at the second slowest pace, and like every team the Kings have gone up against recently – they’re dealing with injuries to key players! Jamal Murray is questionable today, as is feisty back-up Facundo Campazzo. To make matters worse for the Nuggets, Gary Harris and PJ Dozier are also both out with various injuries. The Kings will once again have a decent shot at stealing a game here because while the peasants have all be struck hard by the injury bug, the Kings have been ordained on high to be unnaturally healthy this season so far. Jokic without weapons could be left on an island and be forced to shooting in droves and if Holmes can frustrate him and Fox can get him into some early foul trouble, they could come away this afternoon sitting at .500.
Sidenote: Players who signed in the off-season can now officially be traded so I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a Bjelica trade here in the next week.
Prediction
I came within a single point of predicting a perfect score of the Celtics game, so lets see what I’ve got today. Fox goes for 30 today if healthy. Haliburton struggles early in the first half then comes alive and ends up with 17+ by the end of the game.
Kings: 118, Nuggets:113
Early on we had Denver’s number
When they played as if in a slumber.
Of late they’ve been better
We’d be the upsetter
If we can pressure Jokic to lumber!
Such an early start time?

Let’s send these Nuggets home
I think I say boy I hope those Kangz win.
I saw a bit of the twitter back-and-forth late last night and was tempted to chime in, but ultimately thought it was better if I left it to the professionals.
I only wanted to say that I appreciate so much that there are people like you who are so passionate about the same team I’ve been following for decades, inspite of the relatively small amount of franchise success. (wait, excess of suck… = ‘success’?)
As Doc Rivers said (er, I think):
“We keep loving this team, and this team does not get into the playoffs.”
Vlade was right about Michael Porter Jr. who allegedly was given serious consideration at #2. Unfortunately he was not “right enough” that he was compelled to take him over Marvin.
Wasn’t there talk at the time the Kings tried to get a second pick to draft MPJ at the end of the lottery?
Porter Jr is not a guy that I liked pre-draft, I was 100% wrong on him, because the one game he played he could not move, and had gunslinger mentality, but he has adjusted to the NBA about 2-3X smoother than Marvin.
Porter Jr has some resemblance to a young Dirk Nowitski and also Markennen. The guy is legit. Fox, Ty and MPJ would be a perfect fit! MPJ is guaranteed to have a very good career if he stays healthy bc he has the mobility and length to get very clean looks at the rim. He has a 67% TS% ….. WOW!
I could make the case (and maybe I will someday lol) that Michael Porter Jr would have been the better pick than Luka!!! Yeah, you heard me, right, don’t @ me !
Fox would NOT have had the opportunity to develop into the player he has sharing the PG with Luka. Luka is the MOST ball dominant player in the NBA. And Luka’s best position is absolutely PG, thats why the Mavs traded away Dennis Smith Jr, currently in the G League!
I had conversations back in the day debating against fans saying DSJ would be better than Fox, superstar vs G-Leaguer, their paths could not have been more divergent, and it was very apparent before the draft and early into their careers.
But Luka and Fox, I do not think it would work, at least their production would be seriously suppressed. You can disagree, but you have to think about how Luka demands the ball for like 20 out of 24 seconds of the shot clock, I think Fox would probably demand a trade! And if Fox was unhappy, Luka would be unhappy, because Lukas career did not take off until they dumped Smith Jr!
Anyways, MPJ is turning into a more potent scoring threat than Bagley. More comfortable and potent in most areas on the floor. You could add 2-3 assists per game to Fox if he had MPJ over Bagley. I imagine this is one of the regrets that Vlade has while smoking his cigars in Serbia or SAC or wherever he’s collecting his unearned checks.
Luka is playing a little too much like Harden this year, I have to say he’s been a little disappointing. He’s chucking up 3’s, ball dominant, and even tho he gets his assists he also has a lot of careless turnovers. Doesn’t look like he really hit the gym that hard either. And the constant whining is annoying so I think he’s fallen back a bit. Also, his team looks like trash. Watching a guy dribble it the whole shot clock does not motivate you to play D.
Layup line for Denver
Don’t know if this is just my fanhood talking, but Whiteside looks like he is in marginally better shape. Also, Haliburton is soooooooo fun to watch.
Whiteside with 3 blocks, that last one a muscle block facing up the driving would be almost but not quite jammer.
Kings hold Nugs to 38% shooting in first quarter
WHITESIDE!! Get that shit outta here!!!
Is Fox hurt?
I don’t give a damn. I’ll just say it. Harrison Barnes is the MVP…OF THE LEAGUE!!!!
Followed closely by Fox, Holmes, and Hali.
His shot does look INCREDIBLY locked in so far this game.
Hali with yet another steal strip to Holmes for two over Jokic. Excellent.
re: Hali – What were the other 11 teams thinking?
Too much time in the film room watching his shooting mechanics without understanding his heart, mind and drive. Good on The Kings and Monte.
When the season began, I thought if he could one day end up a 15-6-6 player with plus defense that he’d be starter for us for years. But the way he’s playing, he looks like he may be a 20-6-6 player by the end of the season.
I think you are right, maybe higher.
I’m pretty sure the Hornets are satisfied with their pick. The other teams, yup.
Using the eyeball test only for this first half the Kings are every bit as good a team on offense and defense as the Nuggets are. The Kings are playing really good ball, doesn’t mean an automatic win, but the team play is definitely improved.
NBA TV also misses the impact of Harrison Barnes on his team despite a stats sheet sitting right there in their laps during the halftime comments showing Barnes as the leading scorer. Their focus was on the kings guards, but HB is playing really well too.
Can we talk about Mark Jones’ food obsession when things get exciting: jelly, sugar, both instant and regular grits, butter, sauce, fish grease…
His victory phrase tends to make me hungry, which isn’t really desirable for the games that end late at night.
Barnes continues to play great. CoJo and Buddy been useless
I should apologize to Buddy. He’s done well playing the 2 man game with Holmes. CoJo is useless though, as usual
Harrison Barnes is so consistently good. I would be really bummed if we traded him. he’s the essential Jack of all trades that you need on every team.
I’ll be in that position to say, let Barnes finish his contract out. If he continues his aggressive, skilled, and steady play, he deserves to stay SACRAMENTOPROUD.
I love this team.
I hate this team.
I love to hate this team.
I hate to love this team.
GO KINGS!
Where’s the game thread? Our guys keep forgetting to set one up. Buddy can’t buy a bucket today but he’s Richauns personal pg this afternoon. Can’t really complain about that
Jokic is so talented, strong MVP candidate, but I have to say Whiteside is making him alter his normal shots enough to be effective as one can against Jokic.
Awesome 3 by Hali!
if you want to tank this year instead of trying to make the playoffs shame on you. let’s go!!
Whiteside pushes Jokic out of the low post for 2. Frogs flying.
HALIBURTON!
Hali for another beautiful 3
total lack of D
Ok get CoJo off the court. 2 terrible turnovers
Walton calls a timeout to take Joseph out of the lineup. Golly he has been really horrible the last four possessions. Flying frogs crash land.
Don’t care what the haters say, those were really productive minutes from Whiteside.
Hali with +19, MPJ -22
Nuggets making their run here.
HALIBURTON IN THE CLUTCH!
Hali, Hali, Hali
Great assist by Buddy
Buddy and Richaun are playing a great 2 man game today
Indeed.
Great D by Kings and Fox on Jokic.
That wasn’t a foul on Holmes at all…
Mike Malone insisting fox inside three point line. Porter stands at foul line a long time and badly misses the first free throw.
We needed that 2 by Fox
HN with great D on Jokic. Just great.
HB
New career high for Haliburton!
This kid is insane
Doug: Zero on the jersey but number 1 in the hearts of Kings fans.
Best line of the year after the Haliburton 3.
He’s a hero, not a zero!
Ugh you might wanna double him
He’s done it again.
On your earlier note, you are right, and he may be better than we all think in a month or so of experience. What heart.
Reeeeeese!
Haliburton/Fox closing another game
Nice Fox!
Fox threading the needle. Can’t believe Buddy didn’t take that 3. Good for him
Doug’s Sacagawea and Lewis and Clark reference was terrible…lol
Wait….are the Kings good?
Don’t go there. Don’t say anything
Playing very good team ball now, Yes.
Good lord Jokic is unconscious
Thank you Buddy, for not forcing the 3 down the stretch.
Kings sweep the season series with the Nuggets. Who would have thought
All of us here on TKH.
Everyone in here raise your hand if you had fun this Saturday afternoon.
If I had 3 hands I’d raise ’em all
Certainly not Denver
As far as I’m concerned one of Buddy’s best games
Survived a 50 spot! Great win Kings!!!
What a great game
We’re fucking good.
STAMP IT!!!!!!
the Joker is sooo fckin good
A treat to watch him.
The thing about trading Barnes that makes me think twice is that he certainly seems to be playing the way I always imagined the-guy-after-Barnes would play
Agreed…I see people here targeting 2022-23 to be good…What’s the chance the assets return for Barnes is playing at a Barnes level by then? Even if Barnes reduces to 75-80% of what he is right now? Seems slim to me.
If you are for full on tank mode and targeting to be good by after that you are already about 1/2 through Fox’s extension. Is he staying when he hits unrestricted after that 3-4 more losing seasons? He shouldn’t…
Good win. Yes, against a depleted team but this was a team effort. Disciplined, smart basketball.
I hate to say it but perhaps we should give some credit to Walton.
Lord knows he’s not shown mercy on here when things are bad, so Walton should get some now.
Just like what happened in Golden State, anyone could take this incredible, all-star studded roster to the Finals!
Barnes with 28-7-4 and great D.
Four Kings with over 20 points.
What a fun game to watch.
Hali is really emerging. 35 minutes.
Great win over Mike Malone.
NBA TV saying great things about The Kings.
Jokic is a beast. However, I thought Whiteside did as well as a player can against him. Richaun had a great game.
.500! Great win!
What. A. Win.
Fox is looking like a legit franchise player. So stoked on this team right now. If we keep winning, forget the tank. Let’s rise.
So close on that prediction, Will!
Apparently Kings only won because Nuggets were short handed.
Am I doing it right?
Yep.
Two teams with different styles and it was the style of play that won today despite The Nuggets being short. The Nuggets all rightfully revolve around their MVP, Every play goes through him because they would be nuts not to. This was Michael Porter’s night to score and rebound. He didn’t. Doesn’t mean he is not performing. It just means the ball went through Jokic and the opportunities were not there for MJP, some of that due to Harrisons D on him.
The Kings played great team ball on offense moving the ball, for example, Buddy doing the give and go with Richaun all night long when Buddy was hesitant to shoot, HB great on both ends, simply a giant force in the game, Hali passing, disrupting, and raising his cieling every game that he plays.
Team won tonight over MVP.
We played without Kyle Guy.
I’d say the Nuggets had the advantage.
I think we may have also all secondarily witnessed a changing of rotations without the replacement having played a second in the game. For me, it’s time to give Kyle some playing time and take those minutes from CoJo. This was as poorly as he has played all year.
Just imagine if the trade to the Bucks were consummated and not screwed up by those knuckleheads. Divencenzio off the bench instead of CoJo. I have to note that if the trade had been made Hali might not have gotten minutes to play, so that would have been the downside. However, I have to think Hali’s play would have come out in practices and in the fewer minutes he might otherwise have had.
Only thing I’m getting a little worried about is I’d like to see Marvin getting more minutes. He was trending upward and playing some net-positive basketball until he started falling out the lineup since those two bogus tech calls against the Pels. I understand he’s the Kings 6th best player but….shouldn’t the 6th best player get some more opportunity?
Missed the game. What happened to Bagley?
I suspect Walton chose to play Holmes and Whiteside versus Jokic since the Joker worked Bagley over the previous two meetings
Yeah we can’t have Bagley get scored on. So we put Holmes, Whiteside and Barnes on him so he could be shut down (checks box score) for 50 pts, 12assists, and 8 rebounds.
Well…he coulda had 56? No?
Those three are undoubtedly better options to slow him down than Bagley
Probably would’ve given up a 101 pts and had the all time game record scored on him, right?
He didn’t play well on offense either in this game.
No he didn’t. But we’ve already established that it doesn’t matter how he plays, he won’t get any minutes in the 4th. He’s stuck in a lose lose situation. I really wish we could balance developing him with also trying to win. Really had hopes we’d try to develop him with Fox, and Halliburton. I’m becoming more convinced that a change of scenery would be best for both parties…
“I really wish we could balance developing him with also trying to win.”
I’m sure the Kings would love to do that too. So would I. Problem is the reality is that those ideas don’t really fit together right now when it comes to giving Bagley important 4th quarter minutes right now. Sure maybe he can play the early part of the 4th (which he does at times) but when it comes down to last 7-8 minutes of game it would be negligent coaching to have Bagley in. Your closing 5 is literally rated as one of the best in the league.
WTF are you telling the rest of the guys on that team if you aren’t playing your best 5 at this stage of the season? The team is .500 and around the playoff hunt…that’s important too for developing a winning culture.
If we get down to last half of the season and Kings are cooked record wise, I would imagine you will see Bagley getting those minutes then.
I don’t have any issues with the 5 we’re ending the game with. But the 2nd best 5 man lineup we have includes Bagley, so to sit him whole second half of the 3rd and all of the 4th doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me
My early season’s takes about Fox are aging well, good for us. My pre-season’s takes about trading Barnes are garbage right now, also good for us. Hali is special, I love Holmes. And a bery mature game by Hield.
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