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Buddy Hield and Luke Walton aren’t talking, as the Kings explore new depths of childishness

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Buddy ignore Luke's call at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

Oh my god, did you guys hear the news? According to the Athletic's Jason Jones, Buddy Hield is ignoring calls from Luke Walton! And Buddy liked some posts on Instagram about the 76ers!

From Jones:

According to league sources, Hield has soured on Walton to the point he will not answer his coach’s phone calls.

I'd suggest subscribing to the Athletic to get the rest of the story, but...that's the entire story. Everything else is just rehashing what we already know.

Is it news that Buddy Hield is unhappy? Absolutely not. Is it news that Luke Walton has lost this team? Nope. And yet this news is going to make the aggregation rounds because there's nothing else happening except for a boring Finals series where the Lakers are playing an injury-depleted Heat team that was already an underdog.

I didn't feel like writing about this earlier today because it felt like such a stupid story. Now I feel compelled to write about it because it is such a stupid story.

Luke Walton misused Buddy Hield on both ends of the floor last season. Buddy also thinks he's better than he actually is. Luke Walton can't communicate well with his team, and Buddy has now clashed with both Walton and Dave Joerger in consecutive seasons. It's all just pathetic.

Walton isn't a very good coach. Buddy is a pain in the ass. Both of them probably just need to suck it up and act like professionals. The story is getting old.

Stay tuned for next week's update in which we examine and interpret the emojis Buddy Hield uses in an off-the-cut tweet.

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TheBufferZone
2 months ago

I’m so over this. Fire Walton & Trade Buddy. Gimme Becky Hammon & a young player/pick.

2 months ago
Reply to  TheBufferZone

We’d probably get Stan Van Gundy and the Raptor’s pick.

TheGrantNapear
2 months ago
Reply to  TheBufferZone

I’m sure this disfunctional franchise is the ideal franchise for the first female head coach in NBA history. What could possibly go wrong?

BabalooMagoo
2 months ago
Reply to  TheGrantNapear

I can see it now. Vivek standing on a ladder looking over his/her shoulder.

Last edited 2 months ago by BabalooMagoo
TheBufferZone
2 months ago
Reply to  TheGrantNapear

You can’t expect to change the culture doing the exact same thing over & over again.

Vivek cleaned house & replaced with people who aren’t previously from the Warriors or Kings, & built success in other franchises…except for one last spot.

Get rid of Walton & bring in Becky Hammon. She’s coming from the most consistently successful coach & franchise. Her being a woman only enhances the perspective that this is a whole new era for Sacramento.

RORDOG
2 months ago

I don’t really like the angle here. Jason Jones reported that Buddy isn’t returning Luke’s calls. I understand that others sites will aggregate the news, but we have a local reporter who has provided new information about a relevant topic through direct sourcing. It’s not a game of telephone.

RORDOG
2 months ago
Reply to  Greg

i mean how can you think “player refuses to speak to his coach” is not important? If this was Justin James, then yeah I agree. Buddy is being paid the equivalent of the gdp of South Dakota (slight exaggeration). This is obviously a harbinger of a public trade request unless something changes. That’s news, not gossip.

RORDOG
2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

the Player being paid ~$95 million doesn’t want to be here. Heres a reminder of his past quotes:

  • He mildly insulted the city of Sacramento and said no one wants to play here: “Name one big free agent that came to Sacramento,”
  • has gone on record indicating he is unhappy with his role while in the bubble stating “Y’all know me … Y’all can read me well so I’ll let y’all answer that for yourselves,”

we can all discuss the truthfulness of his statements. But we should also have some pride in our city. If he doesn’t want to be here, then we should help show him the door. You can’t claim to be the best fans in the world if your not willing to ensure players put some respect on the name.

cbrody
2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

I see what you’re saying but I don’t take it as a slap to the city as much as to this shit franchise. In the early 2000’s I remember Sac was the preferred destination of collegiate players. Or so I have some weird memory of such a thing being said.

I think a lot of the chatter about us being a shitty destination would go away if you had competency in the front office.

I was more pissed that he was out playing in the skinz tourney in Oklahoma after the NBA shut down. A franchise just committed 100 mill to you and you’re screwing around during a pandemic? Maybe I’m reading too much into it but that pissed me off.

If I was Buddy I’d be pissed at Walton but maybe he should look in the mirror. Or learn to dribble. Or play defense. Or pay attention.

RORDOG
2 months ago
Reply to  cbrody

Yeah the whole situation with Buddy just bothers me. He shoots the ball at an elite level, but he’s either average or below average at everything else. He is simply not the caliber of player that gets to openly ridicule a team and refuse to take calls from his coach.

He’s almost 30. If he has an problem, then he should handle it like an adult. It’s not childish for Luke to call Buddy to smooth things over. That’s what a boss should do! It’s childish to ignore the call. It’s childish to comment about potential trades on social media. It’s childish to play pickup games in an open gym during a freaking pandemic. It’s childish to not look in the mirror, and take responsibility for your own shortcomings. The situation is childish because Buddy decided to act like a child.

anan1234
2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

Luke is bad managing players. The way he mismanaged Dedmon in the beginning of the season sucked cause I thought Dedmon could have given us something but for some reason he was the only one in the dog house even though the whole team was playing like shit at the time. Killed that man’s confidence and desire to play for Luke.

The way he tries to turn Buddy an elite shooter who is most effective in that Duncan Robinson type of role and tries to make him a facilitator and when he predictably doesn’t flourish he benches him. It just seems like he puts players in positions to fail and blames them for failing and then wants to be the good guy in the end saying let’s work things out. I kind of understand why Buddy is thinking F off.

Last edited 2 months ago by anan1234
RORDOG
2 months ago
Reply to  anan1234

I don’t think Buddy is upset because the coach didn’t make him a catch and shoot guy. That’s the disconnect here. We think Buddy should have a very defined role. Buddy thinks he’s a star. The fans are upset with Luke, and Buddy is also upset at Luke, but that doesn’t mean Buddy and the fans are upset for the same reasons.

anan1234
2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

I think he’s upset with Luke because he benched him and at times would barely play him at the end of games as the season progressed. I saw that in the bubble as well. Luke would say look at his play and you would see why I benched him. Now why I think has Buddy regressed is due to Luke mismanagement of him.

RORDOG
2 months ago
Reply to  anan1234

i don’t like to compare NBA teams to the real world, but I think we can at least compare in the abstract. If an employee is upset about how they are treated, then isn’t an open dialogue the correct way to attempt to remedy the situation? Buddy has every right to be upset. I’m just not a big fan of absolving him of any criticism. He’s a diva. That’s the biggest impediment here. They can adjust his role, and continue to aid in his development, but if he doesn’t change his attitude, then none of that matters.

Otis
2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

Yeah, Buddy’s personality has been a bit of a revelation the last 18 months. I suspect he’s simply trying to force his way out of town.

RobHessing
2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

Name one big free agent that came to Sacramento”

You have to go back to the 1990s for Divac, right?

We love for our athletes to be honest, right up to the point where we don’t like what they say with their honesty. Holding this statement against Hield seems like messenger shooting 101 to me.

I think Hield needs to go, but certainly not for that mild statement. Feigning civic pride indignation seems a little weird to me.

RORDOG
2 months ago
Reply to  RobHessing

Feigning civic pride? As in, to intentionally give a false impression of having pride in one’s city?

RobHessing
2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

I think you’re making a mountain out of a mole hill. The statement is factually correct, and no secret. Your mileage may vary.

RORDOG
2 months ago
Reply to  RobHessing

You said basically the same thing when Buddy originally made the comment. Now Buddy is expressing his desire to get traded and not answering his coach’s calls. At what elevation can we officially declare a mole hill has reached mountain status?

(also I’ve been to the world’s highest hill in Poteau, Oklahoma, so I’m what some would call an “expert” on the subject)

RobHessing
2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

I’m saying that as a native Sacramentan, I take zero offense to Hield’s free agent comment. No more, no less.

RORDOG
2 months ago
Reply to  RobHessing

ok that’s fine. that doesn’t mean other fans are making a mountain out of mole hill for having a different opinion. I can be upset with Buddy’s behavior, and you can be okay with it. I just feel Buddy breached the pettiness threshold a long time ago. He has every right to be upset. That doesn’t mean we should condone his childishness, or say “both sides are at fault here” every time he’s insubordinate.

RobHessing
2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

Honesty =/= insubordination.

My point is that Hield’s FA comment is not germane to the conversation, in my opinion. It is a statement of fact that casts no aspersions on or at Walton.

I’ve commented on the other aspects of this kerfuffle. Both Walton & Hield need to go. I’m not holding my breath.

RORDOG
2 months ago
Reply to  RobHessing

Refusing to answer your boss’s call = insubordination. Maybe you were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt when he was just stating the obvious that no one wants to play here, but at some point shouldn’t we say “ok at this point it’s safe to assume Buddy is just an asshole?”

RobHessing
2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

You’re conflating here. My comment was very specific to the free agent comment. Period.

You seem to be very emotional about this and you’re reading/talking right past my comments. Life’s short. Moving on.

RORDOG
2 months ago
Reply to  RobHessing

The lifecycle of engaging with rob:

  • here’s my opinion
  • your opinion is wrong
  • well that’s just your opinion right?
  • actually your wrong, but your mileage may vary
  • no I’m saying two people can have different opinions
  • ok obviously you aren’t arguing in good faith so I’m tapping out
  • rinse repeat
Jman1949
2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

Yikes! This is so typical of the year 2020 when two of my favorite posters here can’t even agree to disagree without leaving a pile of snark for each other.

RORDOG
2 months ago
Reply to  Jman1949

Lol it’s like King Dong versus Godzilla

RORDOG
2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

It’s like if I told someone “to be honest your wife is ugly.” Technically, I might be right. That doesn’t mean people are righteous for defending my right to call someone’s wife ugly. I don’t think it’s a bad thing for fans to be protective of their teams. Sometimes that means saying “you’re not wrong Walter, you’re just an asshole.”

Jmc220
1 month ago
Reply to  RobHessing

This is a bad take. Sorry, you don’t dump on the town you play for. Especially when the town is one of the most supportive in the league. And this isn’t messenger shooting. He is the moron that said it. I’m a lurker and I generally enjoy your comments but you might want this one back

Jmc220
1 month ago
Reply to  Jmc220

And I’m sorry, I confused you with someone else. I actually don’t enjoy your takes usually. I was not intentionally being a jerk but I felt the need to correct myself

9sac8
2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

” If he doesn’t want to be here, then we should help show him the door.”

AND 1!!!!!!!!

OutofServicePervis
2 months ago

Nothing else happening? Ahem…

02kingsfan
2 months ago

Few thoughts here:
a. Thought Lose Alton is the “players” coach
b. Has Alton tried texting Hield if he’s not picking up the phone?
c. What needs to be done for Alton to resign while the kangz aren’t paying the remainder of his stupid salary? Maybe a settlement so everyone can be happy?

2 months ago

“league sources”

So it appears Kings coaches or management leaked this to slam their player.

Dear Mr. McNair,
This shit is old. You want to get rid of the Mickey Mouse label on this franchise, start here.

RORDOG
2 months ago
Reply to  Marty

jason Jones has relationships with players. This has been obvious for years now. He literally says that management won’t even speak with him because he presents the players’ viewpoint.

2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

Jones also has had a direct line to the FO for years. He’s always been a source for Vlade.

This story makes Buddy seem like a knucklehead, so at least in my mind it seems like a management source.

BeTheBall
2 months ago
Reply to  Marty

I mean, Buddy is a knucklehead. I can just as easily see him thinking that this is a “statement”, as I could the team thinking this is a nice little slam.

02kingsfan
2 months ago
Reply to  BeTheBall

The same way he plays defense unfortunately

RORDOG
2 months ago
Reply to  Marty

wait what? Buddy has openly said things that make him seem like a knucklehead for over a year now. Why would he care about his appearance now if the goal is to get traded? Like I don’t even understand how anyone can even think that Jones’ source is anyone other than Buddy (or his people). I’m literally dumbfounded that anyone could ever think otherwise.

This story is an attempt by Buddy (or his team) to get out of Sac. how do you not see that?

Otis
2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

Yeah, this feels more like a Buddy thing.

RikSmits
2 months ago
Reply to  Marty

What? Why? Opposing teams will offer less for him assuming that he wants out. Why would management leak such a story?

It is in the interest of both parties to come together while saying everything is fine, while offering each to accommodate a trade that will please both parties.

Buddy has a big ego and is dumb.

markdog333
2 months ago
Reply to  RikSmits

Hmmm…

  • Marty is from Philly
  • the 76ers want Buddy, but do not have much to offer
  • a story is leaked which lowers Buddy’s value
  • Marty tries to pin this story on the King’s front office

I feel like there is more to this but I cannot quite piece it all together.

Otis
2 months ago
Reply to  Marty

I could see Buddy’s people leaking this, if they want to expedite a trip out of town.

And as little as I care for guys like Jason Jones, I think most of these newspaper guys follow basic journalistic principals so they aren’t simply being led by the nose by one side.

ImJoeKing
1 month ago
Reply to  Marty

Looking at incentives:

Kings/McNair would benefit from things looking happy and shutting this story down, because it would increase Buddy’s value and allow any potential trade to happen on their terms.

Buddy, since it seems he wants out, would benefit from sowing discord and creating chaos because it would force the Kings to consider a trade sooner.

It’s strange to conclude that this came from the Kings because of “league sources” which seems to imply anyone related to the league in some way.

Kingsguru21
2 months ago

You are correct Greg.

anan1234
2 months ago

Interested to see what McNair does with this.

Buddy or Joerger I would have picked Joerger. Buddy or Luke I’m going with Buddy.

RikSmits
2 months ago
Reply to  anan1234

Why not neither?

They can both bugger off, for all I care.

Just clean ship, tank hard, bring in an exorcist and attack Matina with garlic and a stake.

HongKongKingsFan
2 months ago
Reply to  RikSmits

Agree…fire Walton, and trade Hield away (get another pick)

Draft Aaron Nesmith & P. Williams…….& Tyrese Maxey

SmallBallReject
2 months ago

Yep, I am starting to come around to this line of thinking …

Yazan13
2 months ago

If we are trading Hield I would want a first round pick in a stacked 2021 draft if I was Mcnair, forget this year.

L-Train3.1
2 months ago
Reply to  RikSmits

You assume that will be enough. Matina is eternal, Matina is forever.

Hobby916
2 months ago

Brings me back to a time with snakes…grass…something like that. Anyway, be professional. That is all.

billoddity
2 months ago

Sucks having a Laker for a coach who can’t coach and a “star” player who is incredibly overrated acting like a disruptive bedwetter. Hield is a 6th man at best. He has the dribbling skills of a 7th grader, he can’t create his own shot, he’s an inept defender, he doesn’t do assists, rebounds, or anything else that winning teams rely upon. He’s also a turnover machine and dumb as a box of rocks. Regardless of Walton being a joke, shipping Hield out of here is the first thing McNair should do. Make him go stand in the corner for Embid and Simmons and take anything you can get. Addition by subtraction. Gimme Furkan Korkmaz (that’s a real person right?) or anyone. Tobias Harris isn’t exciting but would be highway robbery at this point.

Last edited 2 months ago by billoddity
HongKongKingsFan
2 months ago
Reply to  billoddity

Absolutely no way………
We are not selling low……..

We should know what our strategy is for this off-season and next year…

Off-season
1) Grab as many assets as possible (2020 / 2021 draft picks)

Next season
1) Tank, and get 1st pick….

We all know who Hield was…and GM should NOT do what the players want……
If 76ers give me a fair trade, then do it…but front office should not just sell Hield low….

If Hield plays well next season…his value is up again..and GM can trade him in mid-season (if he wants)

If Hield plays poorly, our record will reflect it, which would helps our positioning….no harm at all.

Last edited 2 months ago by HongKongKingsFan
CheekMagnet
2 months ago

Yep, and his contract is extremely attractive as it declines every year.

Bbmuteman
2 months ago
Reply to  billoddity

For a 2 guard, buddy rebounds pretty well from what I’ve seen. If he went to the sixers and just ran the same dribble hand off cuts that reddick did, he’d be cooking in the east. I don’t think the kings need to sell low on buddy.

eddie41
2 months ago
Reply to  Bbmuteman

to Philly? Not for Horford. Maybe for Embiid.

9sac8
2 months ago
Reply to  eddie41

Agreed. HELL NO to Horford. HEEEEEEEELLLLLLLL NO.

NorCalKingsFan
2 months ago
Reply to  eddie41

It so ridiculous to see all these trade scenarios where we dump Buddy for nothing but the chance to get rid of him, as if he carries no value.

Most of the ones I have seen have us swapping Hield for Horford with the Kings throwing in extra!

Why, because the Kings were rumored to want Horford after he left Celtics (but before he showed that he was just a shadow of his former self).

Any trade with Philly should start with Matisse Thybulle with Philly having to add assets if we take on any additional long-term salary. Otherwise, wait until next offseason.

Wonderchild
1 month ago
Reply to  NorCalKingsFan

I’d prefer a 3rd team involved with Philly and taking one of their picks. I don’t know how much I want a couple of mid 20s picks from Philly for Hield just to take Horford off their hands.

I doubt Thybulle will be available. He’s a very good value to Philly with their cap situation.

richie88
2 months ago
Reply to  billoddity

Buddy has a lot of flaws, but I’m pretty sure he’s a good rebounder for a G. He should be traded if there’s a good deal available, but trading him for Tobias Harris would be awful.

eddie41
2 months ago

buddy is tradeable but he is not a toxic asset that we have to dump in a bad trade. Bobby Jackson always wanted to start but that didn’t stop him from playing hard.

RikSmits
2 months ago
Reply to  eddie41

Bobby Jackson ever did not return hid coach’s phone calls and complained about coming off the bench?

The team has levearge, but Buddy can make the situation so unworkable that he will become a toxic asset. And he seems to have no qualms about going that direction.

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
2 months ago
Reply to  RikSmits

…A toxic asset that can really hurt his trade value. Once he requests the trade demand his value immediately drops. Other teams will hold the leverage in negotiations.

RikSmits
2 months ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Yup.

eddie41
2 months ago
Reply to  RikSmits

just rumors. Maybe he was in a bad spot and would return the call later. I’d rather not make a big deal of it.

TheGrantNapear
2 months ago

Buddy went from completely loveable, favorite King to absolutely annoying within a year’s time. His various quotes from the past year speak for themselves.

Through all this Buddy-Walton drama, one has to wonder what Vivek’s relationship with Buddy is, afterall, Vivek is the one that had a hard one for him and saw him as KlaySteph in one.

ZillersCat
2 months ago

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Sarunis
2 months ago

Three of the biggest mistakes of Divac. #1-Firing Joerger- He had the team moving in the right direction and I believe he wanted to take Luka. #2- Not taking Luka – obviously. #3- Signing a good pro player, Buddy Hield, to a superstar contract. Hield forced this extension, but he never would have been able to if they had Luka on the roster.

I would hire Gentry- I think he is a better coach than Walton. If I had the opportunity to trade Hield for a good young-ish player and a draft pick, I would do it.

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
2 months ago
Reply to  Sarunis

I’m not understanding the thoughts of Gentry as head coach. Color me confused but I don’t think he is that great. In 17 years as a head coach he’s made the playoffs 3 times. He’s got a career .462% winning percentage. The Pels that he just coached were one of the worst defensive teams in the league.

IMO, Gentry would be better as lead assistant who can specialize in the offense, but I really don’t want him running the whole team.

BestHyperboleEver
2 months ago
Reply to  Adamsite

The Pels were a terrible defensive team with a lot of good defensive players, no less. .

Wonderchild
1 month ago
Reply to  Adamsite

Agree. He’s going to be a great asset to Philly’s new coaching staff. Maybe he unlocks Simmons offensively.

BestHyperboleEver
2 months ago
Reply to  Sarunis

Amazing that he has enough missteps that the Sixers trade doesn’t even make the top 3. That alone is good argument for firing him.

RobHessing
2 months ago

One cannot take something seriously if it refuses to take itself seriously. – Long Suffering Kangz Fan

The GM has changed. He has a long road to hoe to change the culture.

Both Walton & Hield need to go, but that is unlikely to occur in the near-term. Meanwhile, the Kings organization once again devalues an asset, arguably their best (when you factor in durability) player over these past few years.

Last edited 2 months ago by RobHessing
richie88
2 months ago
Reply to  RobHessing

Fox is a better player than Buddy. Otherwise I agree.

RobHessing
2 months ago
Reply to  richie88

Fox is the franchise cornerstone, and the team is at it best when he plays. He is the current future for the Kings & their most important player/asset. But when you factor in his availability vs. Hield’s, the argument can be made that Hield has been the best player over the time that both have been here.

L-Train3.1
2 months ago
Reply to  RobHessing

Fox’s ankles are a concern. He needs a Curry style program to keep injuries at bay.

richie88
2 months ago
Reply to  RobHessing

IIRC, Fox missed roughly 20 games last season, but not many games in his 1st 2 seasons. I don’t think that’s enough games missed for Buddy to surpass Fox.

Last edited 2 months ago by richie88
RobHessing
2 months ago
Reply to  richie88

Hield was significantly better than Fox in Fox’s 1st season, and for as much as Fox improved in his next season, so did Hield. He was better than Fox in Fox’s 2nd year, though they both exceeded expectations of the time.

Hield played in 100% of the games this year. Fox 71%. That is my reasoning for why Hield was the better overall player this year when taking the entire season into account. Better health for Fox this year would have clearly made him the better player.

markdog333
2 months ago
Reply to  RobHessing

arguably their best (when you factor in durability) player over these past few years.

…the next three replies argue against this statement.

Fact Check: I deem this statement mostly true

jjdski
2 months ago

Trade him, he is the highest paid player on the team and is cry baby. He has been making comments on social media that are negative and he lacks professionalism. He has put the city and franchise down, he needs to go. I’m going to hope that McNair can get decent value in return but Buddy hasn’t done much to raise his stock lately.

RORDOG
2 months ago

LOL

eddie41
2 months ago

How would you all feel about trading Buddy for Joel Embiid? Philly has a mess with their books and roster construction. Embiid and Horford don’t fit well and no one wants Horford. There are rumors that Simmons and Embiid don’t get along. A lot of people in Philly are convinced that one of them has to be traded. Plus Embiid requires load management, playing only 60-65 games per year. Let me know.

RORDOG
2 months ago
Reply to  eddie41

are you proposing an Embiid/Buddy trade without any other assets/contracts involved?

eddie41
2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

Pretty much. To make salaries match we could throw in Jabari Parker.

BestHyperboleEver
2 months ago
Reply to  eddie41

Including Fox and a couple 1sts might get you in the door. Maybe.

eddie41
2 months ago

Then let’s keep Hield and let him score the ball. Everyone says he could fit well next to a playmaking small forward? How about Naji Marshall?

Inthestarz
2 months ago

WTH?

Joel Embiid is one step away. He is 40 pounds overweight with bad structural issues.

Hes becoming less effective by the year

Im not even a big Fox guy but he wouldnt be included. You wouldnt trade for him

BestHyperboleEver
2 months ago
Reply to  Inthestarz

You’re right, I wouldn’t trade for him. But if the Sixers do decide to move him it’s going to cost some franchise A LOT more than a Buddy Hield level asset.

cbrody
2 months ago
Reply to  eddie41

Did Embiid break a leg or something? No way the 6ers would trade him for Buddy. I don’t think any assets on our team would convince them to trade Embiid.

if McNair pulls that off he’d be up for GM of the year.

Inthestarz
2 months ago
Reply to  cbrody

No. Hes becoming less effective by the year and is one step away, you wouldnt trade for him

L-Train3.1
2 months ago
Reply to  Inthestarz

One step away from what?

Inthestarz
2 months ago
Reply to  L-Train3.1

from what happened to Cousins

Thats overweight/bad conditioning on bad structure

L-Train3.1
2 months ago
Reply to  Inthestarz

Which reminds me, it is time to for Dearest DeMarcus to return.
#BoogieBacktoSac

BestHyperboleEver
2 months ago
Reply to  Inthestarz

His injuries are concerning, but he hasn’t been getting less effectively. In fact, when he’s been on the floor he’s been remarkably consistent and arguably improving year over year.

eddie41
2 months ago
Reply to  cbrody

nothing else really interests me on the Philly roster apart from Simmons who should be untouchable. And i would even have some hesitation dealing for Embiid because of the health risk. Hield has waaaaay more mileage left in him than Embiid. A real motor. Runs more than anyone else in the nba.

02kingsfan
2 months ago
Reply to  eddie41

If the 76er’s GM is Vlade I am sure this would be on the table haha

GFunkClassic
2 months ago

This is not good. Along with everything else that’s come from Buddy over the past year. His energy is going to be toxic to a team that’s that trying to find any resemblance of a winning culture. We should amicably part ways in the next year with the best trade on the table. The value of that goes down with every Buddy postgame talk next year.

RORDOG
2 months ago
Reply to  GFunkClassic

McNair will have his hands full trying to negotiate a trade. Buddy has now butted heads with multiple coaches, and proved there’s a ceiling on his productivity. That limits the total number of teams that would be willing to trade for him.

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

I’m thinking a salary dump by a contender. Buddy for Horford and assets package is looking more and more likely.

Also, lookout for Houston. They are going to be desperate to cut salary.

Wonderchild
1 month ago
Reply to  Adamsite

But who would want Eric Gordon’s salary? That’s arguably worse than Horford…

L-Train3.1
2 months ago

Say what you will about DeMarcus Cousins, he never probably would not have done that.

RORDOG
2 months ago
Reply to  L-Train3.1

Boogie at least got mad about the fact that they wanted to trade him! All else being equal, I prefer the guy who wants to stay versus the guy that wants to go.

L-Train3.1
2 months ago
Reply to  RORDOG

Agreed, I also think that we won’t get much for Buddy from the 76ers. They have nothing we want except Thybulle and I don’t think that is enough.

NorCalKingsFan
2 months ago
Reply to  L-Train3.1

I’d still do that trade with Philly though (with the caveat that we try to get Turner from the Pacers 1st and if that doesn’t work, go after Thybulle) because you’d be turning a malcontent on an expensive contract for a defensive stud at the wing who can’t still improve his offense being only 23 and brings value to the team in more ways than one.

Inthestarz
2 months ago
Reply to  L-Train3.1

Id take their pick this year. The draft is deep to their pick this year

richie88
2 months ago
Reply to  Inthestarz

This year’s draft is supposedly weak. Getting a good prospect is far from guaranteed where the Kings pick is & the Philly pick isn’t likely to land a good prospect. It’s the next 2 drafts that are supposedly strong (however, the 2013 draft was supposedly weak & the 2014 draft was supposedly strong, but the 2013 draft was stronger than the 2014 draft).

RAP87
2 months ago
Reply to  L-Train3.1

Richardson, Thybulle and the 21st pick for Hield, Bjelica and a 2nd round pick.

9sac8
1 month ago
Reply to  RAP87

Buddy and Barnes for Harris, Richardson, and their 21st. Move Bagley in a separate deal. Resign Bogi. Just one of many trades we can make.

Inthestarz
1 month ago
Reply to  L-Train3.1

The draft is deep. You can find talent at their first round pick this year

BeTheBall
1 month ago
Reply to  RORDOG

Though Cousins did make a couple of trade requests during his time here.

Kings_Life_Sentence_86
2 months ago

Wowww. I really don’t see what the big deal is. All Luke needs to do is hop on Buddy’s Instagram Live. Problem solved.

Milkman
2 months ago

Walton –> Ime Udoka
Hield –> Devin Vassell

SelecaoKOJ
2 months ago

I don’t understand some of the posts> Trading Buddy for players like Turner(Very Mediocre, Poor Rebounder and essentially a bench player masquerading as a starter, Like a Harrison Barnes 2.0 playing the 4) or taking on Shuffleboard/Pickle Ball Horford and his ridiculous contract. Hield has a lot more talent than either of those guys at this point. They’re a number of teams that could actually coach to Hield’s strength’s. I I am the first one out of the gate to criticize Hield. But, he’s an Elite shooter in this league. They’re a commodity. They’re are at least a dozen teams that can use Buddy and he will ball out 20 a night. Those trades proposed sounds like Vlade’s Ghost is still running the ship. We have a new sheriff in town. Mcnair. If he has to trade Hield, He will maximize the ROI.

RikSmits
2 months ago
Reply to  SelecaoKOJ

You lost me at Turner being a bench player masquerading as a starter.

BestHyperboleEver
2 months ago
Reply to  RikSmits

Yeah, the guy that’s been a full-time starter since midway through his rookie season for a perpetual playoff team and has yet to miss the playoffs in his career is masquerading as a starter. And apparently has a lot less talented than the guy who’s 3 years older and hasn’t locked down a starting role on the team shooting for the longest playoff drought in NBA history.

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BestHyperboleEver
2 months ago
Reply to  SelecaoKOJ

Turner is as good a rim-protector as Hield is as a shooter. Both play key NBA roles. Both have holes in their game. I’d say which one a team would rather have would have everything to do with fit.

cloudyeyes
2 months ago

Buddy for the 2nd overall pick?

BestHyperboleEver
2 months ago
Reply to  cloudyeyes
  1. Buddy isn’t worth #2, even in this draft.
  2. Why would the Warriors give up a high level asset to acquire someone who’s one skill is the thing they probably need least?
  3. The only real way to do that deal would be to have Wiggins come back the other way.
RAP87
1 month ago

Would you do that deal? Wiggins and their 2nd pick for Barnes and the 12th pick?

BestHyperboleEver
1 month ago
Reply to  RAP87

No. I don’t think anyone of the guys at the top of this draft are worth taking on Wiggins deal. MAAAYYYBBEEE for that 2021 MIN 1st they have. But even then I doubt it.

RAP87
1 month ago

I would do it tbh and trade it to Boston for their 14th, 27th and 30th pick. Its a lot of moving parts though and I’m not sure if Boston would obliged.. But if they do, I’ll do that Wiggins and their 2nd pick.

cloudyeyes
1 month ago

Buddy isn’t worth #2, even in this draft.

This draft is full of talent who have potential in certain areas and flawed in others. Buddy is elite at the 3 and flawed in other aspects of his game / disgruntled. He is worth a #2 pick in this draft.

Why would the Warriors give up a high level asset to acquire someone who’s one skill is the thing they probably need least?

There’s a thing called a multi-team trade if Warriors don’t like it. Plenty of interest around the league.

The only real way to do that deal would be to have Wiggins come back the other way.

Not really.

Inthestarz
1 month ago