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What can we take away from the Kings end of the season?

The Sacramento Kings have three games left this season, and sit 2.5 games behind the San Antonio Spurs in the race for the play-in. The Pelicans and the Spurs each have a path to ruin the Kings chances to make the postseason play-in, but if the Kings win out and both other teams slip, the Kings could find themselves celebrating the accomplishment of making the 10th seed in a 15 team conference.

As a long-jaded Kings fan, I struggle to get excited about any of this. The Kings have won 9 of their last 13 games, 6 of their last 7. There's a glimmer of hope for a play-in game that could lead to another play-in game which could lead to a playoff appearance. Everything is breaking right for the Kings as they enter the easiest part of their schedule, and everything is breaking against their opponents (Zion Williamson is out for the Pelicans, the Spurs will likely face a just-back-from-injury James Harden, the Kings will face the Jazz without Donovan Mitchell). I should be excited about all of this, right?

But I'm not. The Kings have done this to me too many times before. "Oh, if everything goes right, we've got this! The stars have aligned! Oh, we didn't do everything exactly right. Sorry you got your hopes up."

The Kings have back to back games tomorrow and Friday against the Memphis Grizzlies, followed by a final game against the Jazz. None of those can be penciled in as easy wins, especially for the Kings who will be without Tyrese Haliburton, and could still be without De'Aaron Fox and Harrison Barnes. Marvin Bagley missed yesterday's game. Buddy Hield has a bum ankle that has him riding a bike on the sidelines when he's not in the game. The Kings are held together right now by duct tape and a prayer.

Don't get me wrong, if you want to get excited about this, I support you. And if you want to keep being excited, you should stop reading the rest of the way.

Because the context of this run matters, and the context isn't great. The Kings have won 6 of their last 7, but 3 of those wins were against the Oklahoma City Thunder who are actively hunting a higher draft pick. One of those wins was against a floundering Pacers team. The wins over the Mavericks and Lakers, I'm fine with anyone who wants to count those as good wins.

I worry that this mirage is going to convince the Kings brass that all is well in Sacramento. That they'll convince themselves that this run was impressive, and "oh if we'd had Fox and Haliburton we definitely would have made it!" That this run will somehow be used to gloss over a historically bad defense, and two separate 9-game losing streaks. That this run will be used to justify keeping Luke Walton another year and keeping essentially the same roster again next season.

The greatest trick the NBA ever pulled was convincing people that the 10th seed was an accomplishment. Consider, if you will, Dave Joerger's final season. The Kings were 39-43, the 9th seed in the West. This year, the Kings would be finishing 10th in the West, with a 34-38 record as a best case scenario. If you adjust that to a pace for 82 games, it would be 39 wins.

I'm tired of celebrating sub-.500 teams that almost make it. If the Kings somehow end up in the play-in, which I still think is pretty unlikely, we shouldn't treat it as a great accomplishment. If the Kings won their play-in games and got the 8th seed, I would celebrate that. Anything short of that, though, is simply more of the same old Kings.

 

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PhutureKings
May 12, 2021 10:31 am

Agree. This stretch of “wins” against teams that are weak and in the midst of mostly meaningless games is fool’s gold. If the Kings were even decent they would’ve beat the Spurs the other night.

If we had any other coach in the league, we don’t have historically bad defense and we likely at least make the play-in, which even the merits of that is a debate for another time, given the best longterm solution would’ve been to tank away.

But, if they make it (they won’t), it’ll be cool for the team to play in some meaningful games.

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May 12, 2021 10:33 am

“Maybe they’re finally turning the corner.”

You ever get deja vu?
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Amonk81
May 12, 2021 11:37 am
Reply to  Klam

Exactly what I posted in last article/thread. There is nothing good about this team getting the 10. It will allow Vivek etc to continue thinking this organization is anything but terrible.

Continuing doing the same idiotic things over and over and buying into this organization going anywhere is silly.

Luke isn’t good. Vivek isn’t good. The Kings aren’t turning into a playoff club as constituted. Bags isn’t going to be a star. It ain’t happening because everything about this organization is shit.

Time to blow it all up or stay in shutsville with The Lions etc

1951
May 12, 2021 11:48 am
Reply to  Klam

Good tweet about that:

Otis
May 12, 2021 11:50 am
Reply to  Klam

By the way, Charlie Brown played 13 minutes last night for the Thunder. CHARLIE BROWN!

Kosta
May 12, 2021 12:15 pm
Reply to  Otis

This Franchise is Charlie Brown
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arbexfernando
May 12, 2021 12:44 pm
Reply to  Otis

To support your point, Charlie Brown Jr. is a famous rock band in Brazil. It has ended since the singer killed himself

andy_sims
May 12, 2021 1:15 pm
Reply to  arbexfernando

good grief

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May 12, 2021 1:48 pm
Reply to  andy_sims

It’s as if before the band was created, the singer knew that he would eventually kill himself. Then he named his new band.

andy_sims
May 12, 2021 2:58 pm
Reply to  Yakshi

rats

BeTheBall
May 12, 2021 10:33 pm
Reply to  Klam

According to the pregame: “the Kings have really been showing what an excellent defensive team they are”.

I almost spit out my drink.

RobHessing
May 12, 2021 10:37 am

The macro is that this is a sub-.500 team that will finish 11th-12th in West and around 20th in the league. Draft odds put them at the #11 pick being 63% likely, with a 17% chance of 1-4 and a 20% chance of 12-13. There is not a lot of room under the cap – even re-signing Holmes could prove challenging. Meanwhile, Hou, OKC, GS and perhaps NO will pick ahead of the Kings.

I get it. This permutation of the Kings front office, under the Ranadive ownership, has determined that blowing it all up is not an option and that a “re-tool” is the best path forward. And they may wind up being right, though the road to prosperity via “re-tooling” appears quite narrow*. I’ll hope for the best next season, but if someone is asking me to bet on it, based on this roster and coaching staff and based on NBA geography, I’d bet on a 16th straight season of not being among the eight WC teams to advance to the playoffs in ’21-’22.

*The road would get at least slightly wider under a better head coach, imho.

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May 12, 2021 10:45 am
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In all of the time that Vivek has been owner of this team, the only instances where I actually felt that the team was a turning a corner was the start of the 2014-15 season and after the end of the 2018-19 season, both of which resulted in those coaches at the time being fired for not being “good enough to take this team to the next level.”

But I’m sure Malone and Joerger enjoyed the Kings giving them a paid vacation…

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Henry
May 12, 2021 12:20 pm
Reply to  Klam

In that case, you feel like they’re turning a corner now, right? I mean 6 of the last 7 and 9 of the last 13? They’ve gotta be turning a corner, RIGHT?

C’mon man, work your magic.

Kosta
May 12, 2021 12:28 pm
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Klam
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May 12, 2021 12:45 pm
Reply to  Henry

Well if it means Luke Walton will get canned, sure!

BestHyperboleEver
May 12, 2021 2:01 pm
Reply to  Henry

The Kings are so good they turn corners 4-at-a-time.

ajonez81
May 12, 2021 10:04 pm
Reply to  Henry

9-4 is turning a corner huh, that’s sad if that’s such a huge upgrade for franchise.

Henry
May 12, 2021 10:54 pm
Reply to  ajonez81

Haha, read through again, maybe you’ll get what I meant.

RORDOG
May 12, 2021 11:06 am
Reply to  RobHessing

I’d also bet against the Kings making the playoffs next season (unless I got decent enough odds obviously). I probably disagree with most though in my willingness to believe in the feasibility of the “incremental growth, until you can land a star” path. It’s a plan that has worked countless times in the past. Memphis and Phoenix are both teams are both farther along on that path, and both were on the outside looking in last postseason. Phoenix has landed their star and made the jump, and Memphis has accumulated the assets to easily package them for a star.

The thing we don’t know is if this front office (and ownership) is capable of also executing the hard parts of the plan. McNair seems smart enough IMO. It remains to be seen if he’s also shrewd/savvy enough to do more than just hit singles, and start hitting dingers transactionally speaking.

furious.d
May 12, 2021 12:42 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

I agree with everything that you said, but would point out that McNair’s biggest move (drafting Haliburton) was at least a double with the outfielder still chasing the ball into the gap. He’s 1/1 drafting, hasn’t taken on any bad salary, and hasn’t lost assets in trade without equal or better compensation. Obviously it’s a very small sample size of safe moves, but it didn’t take Vlade a full season to show how susceptible he was to grounding into triple plays.

If Monte gives us another solid draft, I’ll start believing we at least have a chance at making good on Fox/Hali’s talents. Even the best teams need a little luck to acquire top-end talent (eg. Booker/Mitchell falling to 13/12, superstars going to glamor markets, etc), but if you don’t have a front office that can add wins with singles, walks, and stolen bases you’re DOA even if you get the #1 overall no-brainer franchise player (eg. KAT in Minny or AD in New Orleans).

RORDOG
May 12, 2021 12:53 pm
Reply to  furious.d

Yeah I guess single is the wrong analogy for Haliburton. Maybe hit a single but reached second (or third) on an error? There’s no reason the other GMs past the top 5 should’ve passed on Haliburton, so I don’t want to give McNair too much credit for what was really a no-brainer pick at #12.

BestHyperboleEver
May 12, 2021 12:56 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

Sometimes it’s smarter just to put it on auto-pick.

andy_sims
May 12, 2021 12:58 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

Eleven guys didn’t have the brains to select a no-brainer. Making the obvious choice ought to be very well-received from fans of a franchise that passed on Luka Doncic.

Kingsguru21
May 12, 2021 1:51 pm
Reply to  andy_sims

I feel safe in saying that Monte McNair is both a better judge of talent and assets than either Vlade Divac or Pete D’Alessandro.

But that’s just my opinion on the matter. It’s hardly the only perception, and there’s much to do before we get a better read in that regard.

Still, I stand by my first paragraph.

Carl
May 12, 2021 3:46 pm
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BeTheBall
May 12, 2021 10:43 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

There’s really only two ways it can go. A “no-brainer” or “catching a falling knife”.

To be fair, at the time Ben was a no-brainer, too.

I mean, if he was picked at 5, 8, 11, Tyrese would be called a no-brainer. So I don’t think it’s really fair to treat it as a knock or a meh for McNair.

RORDOG
May 13, 2021 9:37 am
Reply to  BeTheBall

There were a lot of stories about how Ben had terrible pre-draft workouts though. Like it was obvious that he just didn’t have any BBIQ once he got into the gym. Also, that situation was pretty unique from the Kings perspective. Pete basically got the job a few weeks before the draft. They probably just didn’t have the time or ability to do their due dilligence.

ajonez81
May 12, 2021 10:05 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

Something has to work eventually, just by odds right lol.

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May 12, 2021 3:20 pm
Reply to  RobHessing

The “re-tooling” thing gets me. It implies that only a little bit is off and you were just there, but now need some tweaking. The Kings haven’t needed to be “re-tooled” in 15 years. They’ve needed a complete overhaul, a true blow up, which is something they have not done in this century.

In my opinion, the last true re-build to change the course of the franchise was trading away Mitch Richmond and Otis Thorpe for a troubled Chris Webber. It was a serious gamble of a move that changed everything.

BeTheBall
May 12, 2021 10:37 pm
Reply to  RobHessing

At this point, I’m inclined to believe that it’s simply Ranadive that refuses to blow it up. His entire ownership has been a constant retooling. It’s just sad at this point.

1951
May 12, 2021 10:43 am

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We have plenty of data beyond this little stretch.

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1951
May 12, 2021 10:53 am
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I’ll just move this over to this thread as it works here too:

It was this point in the season that lead me to believe that Skal was going to be a player (a belief that still lingers to this day, lol!)!

In April of his rookie year, he had that 11, 19, 25, 12 stretch and I was sold! 

RORDOG
May 12, 2021 11:09 am
Reply to  1951

Luckily the Kings don’t have us in their front office making personnel decisions!

1951
May 12, 2021 11:12 am
Reply to  RORDOG

True, now. But seriously-ish, if you and I were co-GMs throughout the PDA/Vlade eras, would the Kings be in any worse position than they are now?

🙂

And look, I would be a terrible GM most likely. But I know a few things that wouldn’t have happened if I had the say (butterfly and time continuity issues acknowledged): (1) wouldn’t have fired Malone; (2) wouldn’t have made the Philly trade; (3) likely would have traded Boogie much sooner; and (4) wouldn’t have taken Bagley No. 2.

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RORDOG
May 12, 2021 11:32 am
Reply to  1951

That’s actually why I have a bit more optimism than most. I firmly believe Vlade was worse than if you just had a group of knowledgeable fans making group decisions. That tells me a competent GM should be able to convert this current set of assets into a roster that’s consistently playoff-caliber.

Championship caliber is obviously different, but that window is still 4-5 years away with this current “core.”

Otis
May 12, 2021 11:40 am
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Thing is, we don’t know if McNair is competent. That’s really the wild card. Being better than Divac is a low bar and doesn’t alone equate to long-term success for the franchise.

If Walton is here the second day after the season ends, I’ll start leaning towards incompetence.

RikSmits
May 12, 2021 11:48 am
Reply to  Otis

Agreed.

1951
May 12, 2021 11:55 am
Reply to  Otis

Yeah, PDA had an okay resume in terms of working his way up the FO executive ladder.

We shall see.

RORDOG
May 12, 2021 12:30 pm
Reply to  Otis

I agree. If it wasn’t the Kings then I’d be a bit more bullish about a front office that has 3 current or former GMs plus a cap/analytics guru like Catanella. It’s probably prudent to take a wait and see approach though. It’s hard to judge their performance so far, since we don’t know all the moves they decided not to make. The moves they have made have seemed fairly logical IMO. As I said in the other thread, he’s really only hit singles at this point though. The HRs require a bit more skill to pull off.

Otis
May 12, 2021 1:59 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

Yeah, he hasn’t shat himself at this point. Again, low bars.

RORDOG
May 12, 2021 2:09 pm
Reply to  Otis

I think the Davis/Wright trades were savvy moves. So I’d rank those above shatting oneself on the competency scale. It remains to be seen if they’ll help long-term though.

andy_sims
May 12, 2021 12:59 pm
Reply to  Otis

His deadline moves certainly indicate something beyond mere competence.

Otis
May 12, 2021 1:59 pm
Reply to  andy_sims

Huh.

Carl
May 12, 2021 3:50 pm
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BlessedEdward
May 12, 2021 5:09 pm
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Davis is decent for sure but at 8.5 million a year thats what your suppose to be so that was no great trade…we extended Metu and Jones on options (good move) but without them and Woodward and Ramsey we have 6 players signed and guaranteed (not Holmes or Wright or Harkless) for $97,300,000 next year leaving us with less than 10,000,000 to sign 9 players and I don’t believe any other team will take Buddy for 22 million next year even for free (would any of you) and our owner will not let go of Bagley in spite of the trade deadline rumors….so what is the plan??? We go forward without Holmes and Wright and Harkless? Do will we have to add draft picks to move Buddy? What is the big picture? Love to hear everybody’s ideas…because without locking up Wright or having the ability to pay him and Holmes it appears as just another year of HELL.

BeTheBall
May 12, 2021 10:46 pm
Reply to  Otis

Incompetence or following a mandate from ownership? Do you fire a coach if the owner says you’re not allowed to?

BestHyperboleEver
May 12, 2021 12:04 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

I mean, a competent NBA GM should be able to convert any set of assets into a playoff team within a few years since it’s rare for a team to go longer than that without appearing in the playoffs. The problem is that most of the teams we’re competing with also have competent GMs. Competency is only a differentiating factor when grading on the Kings scale. Not when grading against the rest of the NBA.

RORDOG
May 12, 2021 1:03 pm

I don’t think we’re really disagreeing on anything. Unless I’m misreading you?

BestHyperboleEver
May 12, 2021 1:10 pm
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Not at all. I’m just saying we’re working with a very low bar. Which is another cherished Kings tradition.

RORDOG
May 12, 2021 1:16 pm

Yeah and I probably have a lower bar than most. I’m fine if the team is just entertaining and wins more games than they lose most years.

BestHyperboleEver
May 12, 2021 1:19 pm
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Oooh, entertaining is do-able (how do you feel about dark comedy?), but winning more than they lose is a TALL order.

RORDOG
May 12, 2021 1:38 pm

The Cable Guy is one of my all-time favorite movies. Not sure what that says about me though to be honest.

Kosta
May 12, 2021 1:41 pm
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I went to Medieval Times once and it was pretty much what you see in the Cable Guy movie.

RORDOG
May 12, 2021 1:46 pm
Reply to  Kosta

I literally yelled “Down, Down, Red Knight’s going down!” so much that the Red Knight came over and pretended like he was going to hit me with his joust thing. I also almost got kicked out for using one of those laser pointers in the fog because they said it could blind the horses. That was when I was in high school though. I’m much more mature now.

Kingsguru21
May 12, 2021 1:56 pm
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 I’m much more mature now.

That’s disheartening.

RORDOG
May 12, 2021 2:01 pm
Reply to  Kingsguru21

I mature enough to no longer do things to endanger horses. Yelling at the red knight is still in my maturity wheelhouse.

Kingsguru21
May 12, 2021 2:14 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

That’s perfectly fine then. Besides, why yell at a horse anyway?

Sacto_J
May 12, 2021 3:05 pm
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Carl
May 12, 2021 3:52 pm
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BeTheBall
May 12, 2021 10:49 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

While we still don’t know for sure that you are not Bratz, I guess we do know that you’re not Baffert, with the opposition to endangering horses.

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RORDOG
May 13, 2021 9:34 am
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My dad likes to play the ponies, so I basically grew up at the track. The sport has quite the underbelly w/r/t the way some horses are treated and the conditions for the lower level track workers. I still enjoy watching a live race though. The horses really are trying to win the race which is weird, but cool to see.

I actually took an “intro to horse racing” class in college from a guy that looked like Bob Baffert with a lazy eye.

Kosta
May 13, 2021 11:35 am
Reply to  RORDOG

Do you mean to say the horses comprehend that they are in a race, and are trying to outrace the other horses?

I’ve always wondered this, but never got around to asking any horses this question.

RORDOG
May 13, 2021 12:11 pm
Reply to  Kosta

Well it’s a little more complicated than that. They can understand that they “won” because they receive more praise, so there’s a bit of a stick (or whip) and carrot approach to teaching a horse how to win. And it does take most horses a little while to “learn” how to win. They may react negatively to running alongside other horses, or not like getting dirt kicked in their face for instance. Some may like longer runs, and others prefer sprints. I guess you can say horses have personalities, and the key to winning is to put horses in races that match their personalities.

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May 12, 2021 2:05 pm
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You could be fined up to $5,000 and spend six months in a correctional facility.

RORDOG
May 12, 2021 2:11 pm
Reply to  Yakshi

I’m just messin’ with you. I’ll juice you up!

rockbottom
May 12, 2021 9:25 pm

Bogi was terrific again tonite ! Playing at near All Star level for no. 4 Atlanta ! Did you mention using assets ?

Kosta
May 12, 2021 12:21 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

Luckily the Kings don’t have us in their front office making personnel decisions!

But they tried it before! (crowdsourcing)

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RORDOG
May 12, 2021 12:41 pm
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and it would’ve worked (better) if they actually listened to the crowd and picked Elf over Sauce Castillo.

1951
May 12, 2021 12:50 pm
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Yeah, Elf has done a good job keeping his career going and staying useful. He as started 60 games this year on a playoff team.

SelecaoKOJ
May 12, 2021 7:31 pm
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VIvek acts like he knows baskeball. It’s painfully obvious all these years later. He should be playing golf with his daughter during the draft.

1951
May 12, 2021 12:41 pm
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I believe the STR poll would have had us take Elf, which would put the player selected at 15th in VORP in the draft class as opposed to 52nd!

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May 12, 2021 12:47 pm
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OMG, soooooooooooooooo bad and cringy. Ugh.

andy_sims
May 12, 2021 10:43 am

What can we take away from the Kings end of the season?

At minimum, the head coach.

1951
May 12, 2021 10:45 am
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rc50cal
May 12, 2021 10:44 am

Too bad to win. Too dumb to tank.

SelecaoKOJ
May 12, 2021 7:32 pm
Reply to  rc50cal

Sad and True

Bill2455
May 12, 2021 10:48 am

The arena cost too much money.

andy_sims
May 12, 2021 11:09 am
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May 12, 2021 4:30 pm
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So does golfing every weekend.

BeTheBall
May 12, 2021 10:54 pm
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Somewhat related, we were told we needed a new arena to stay competitive in the NBA. But truth be told, I have no doubt we could be just as shitty as we’ve been for the last 5 seasons, if we were still at Arco.

Brizz
May 12, 2021 10:50 am

It’s the same old trash we’ve seen from this team for fifteen years. They never can play well when it counts and thus never control their own destiny. Once again, they’re season depends on other teams doing the work for us.

The bad news is those are professional organizations that will take care of business and we are the Kangz.

We’ve won 6 of 7 you say? What was the 1 loss? Oh, it was the must win game against a Spurs team that was in the midst of a massive losing streak.

This team has one culture. Losing. And they’re fantastic at it. If by some miracle SAS and NOP lose all of their games, I can guarantee this team will lose as soon as they realize they just have to resemble a professional basketball team.

As a fan of this woeful franchise, it’s insulting and maddening. We should have tanked as soon as we had our first 9 game losing streak. But, in an awesome display of ineptitude, we didn’t even tank after our second 9 game losing streak in the same season!

Straight up embarrassing.

TheGrantNapear
May 12, 2021 12:03 pm
Reply to  Brizz

Well said.
I could care less if they make the play-in. And news flash, they are not making the play-in, don’t get fooled by this franchise.

andy_sims
May 12, 2021 11:01 am

The real value in these last dozen games of the season has been the opportunity to see what the Deadliners have to offer when given significant playing time.

Wright is nearly a sure thing to be back next season, with one year left on his deal. Davis’ situation is a bit more complicated, but Sacramento should be in a good position to keep him, barring some outrageous contract offer. Harkless is the least-likely to return, but if he can be kept on a team-friendly deal, he provides defense at a number of positions, and toughness that’s been in short supply.

Additional opportunities to see Metu and DJones have also been useful, as both appear to be able to contribute, even though both are still pretty raw.

Even Buddy has shown growth as a facilitator, which is fine in smallish doses. Wright & Davis in particular have been quite good in moving the ball and getting teammates good looks, and as bench guys/spot starters, can really help with the dropoff in ball movement when Fox sits.

None of the moves on their own take the Kings up a rung as they attempt to get back to the playoffs, but in tandem, a solid bench unit is taking form. If the Kings can get some luck in the draft and/or obtain a difference-maker via trade or free agency, it doesn’t feel like actual success needs to be years away. Big ifs, to be sure.

In any event, Walton has to go.

SMF-PDXConnection
May 12, 2021 11:13 am

I was talking to someone the other day and they made a salient point about a way the Kings might tip their hand on what they really believe internally.

We know Fox has COVID and it’s apparently been pretty unpleasant. It would be telling if they try to rush him back for the last game or two. Now, I don’t think it’s likely, both given what’s left in the schedule and what we know of how messed up COVID hits people, but is this the kind of thing you can see the Kings doing? If the answer’s yes, that alone speaks volumes.

andy_sims
May 12, 2021 11:19 am

On the other hand, they may be leaving the decision about playing to Fox, if he’s well enough to run.

Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.

Kosta
May 12, 2021 12:25 pm
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Yeah, well sometimes a cigar is NOT a cigar.
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May 12, 2021 12:48 pm
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Sometimes your thumb is a cigar.
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1951
May 12, 2021 12:54 pm
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Just need to get to our destination.
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BeTheBall
May 12, 2021 10:56 pm
Reply to  1951

The letter said “Don’t worry Robert, I got you. I’m a Laker for life.”

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Hozr
May 13, 2021 4:30 pm
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Don’t knock it till you try it.
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TheGrantNapear
May 12, 2021 12:06 pm

As bad as this franchise has been, and bad in so many ways, I don’t believe they would rush Fox back. Simple as that.

May 12, 2021 11:28 am

Watch out for Greg everyone, he’s a little skeptical the Kings brass might make a bad decision!!

All in all seriousness, that’s gracious of you, Greg. Of course they’re going to make a bad decision based on this run. They’re the Kings. I expect nothing less.

Still, I’m enjoying these games. Those guys are playing hard! In the end, that’s all I’m asking for anymore.

andy_sims
May 12, 2021 11:33 am

Good ball movement, and solid team defense. Fundamental stuff, but seeing it executed with some regularity is a good sign.

Otis
May 12, 2021 11:47 am

I’m enjoying “some” of these games. The two against OKC were unwatchable, because the competition was pretty dismal. If there’s two guys on that roster that are still in the league in five years, I’ll be surprised.

BestHyperboleEver
May 12, 2021 12:08 pm
Reply to  Otis

I think there are a number of guys that can/will be useful NBA players. They’re just all either 8-10 rotation guys (Williams) or in their pupal stage (Bazley, Roby, Brown, Poku). Williams is actually a guy the Kings could really use.

Otis
May 12, 2021 12:12 pm

Ok, put 5/12/26 on your calendar and we’ll revisit. 😉

BestHyperboleEver
May 12, 2021 12:18 pm
Reply to  Otis

Deal.

RORDOG
May 12, 2021 12:38 pm

From Zach Lowe’s annual Luke Walton All-Stars article out today:

On draft night, the Sacramento Kings and New Orleans Pelicans — the latter holding the 51st pick — took [Kenrich] Williams’ temperature on potentially signing two-way deals. Williams declined. “I wasn’t gonna short myself,” he says.

BeTheBall
May 12, 2021 11:00 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

If I knew who that was, I’d feel something.

RORDOG
May 13, 2021 9:29 am
Reply to  BeTheBall

He’s dope! His nickname is “Kenny Hustle.” He’s primarily an energy big, but he’s actually a decent passer and can stretch the floor a bit. And he also has a sick mullet:
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BestHyperboleEver
May 13, 2021 9:50 am
Reply to  RORDOG

His problem was always average physical tools and a lack of a shot. But he’s made huge stride on his shoot. His motion looks smooth and repeatable now and he’s hit a great percentage this year. I kept talking about him as a value pick up as an UDFA and when he was on the Pels, but I certainly didn’t expect him to develop his shot this successfully this quickly.

RORDOG
May 13, 2021 9:58 am

I know the NBA doesn’t work this way, but it’s crazy to think the Pelicans frontcourt rotation this season technically could’ve been Zion, Randle, Wood and WIlliams.

andy_sims
May 14, 2021 7:27 am
Reply to  RORDOG

And theoretically, Anthony Davis.

May 12, 2021 1:28 pm

Oh no! A down vote! My life is ruined.

Marty
May 12, 2021 11:39 am

What I take from this season is the bad roster and coach, combined with one clown and one inflated ego on the broadcast team, and I’m left thinking you may as well toss the kings in with the River Cats and Republic as nothing more than the minor leagues.

I’d say they’ve become one of the most irrelevant professional sports teams I’ve ever seen in my 51 years on this earth.

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Amonk81
May 12, 2021 11:59 am
Reply to  Marty

Yes. Exactly! You put it much more succinctly than I.

Perhaps the worst franchise in all sports. Anything but Vivek backing off and starting over is useless.

TheGrantNapear
May 12, 2021 12:08 pm
Reply to  Marty

The more things change the more they stay the same.
They can’t even get the announcing crew right.
Joke of a franchise and we have the douche owner to thank for that.

RobHessing
May 12, 2021 12:08 pm
Reply to  Marty

8 winning seasons (all under Adelman). Nothing but losing seasons the 13 years prior to Adelman’s arrival and the 15 years since his departure. That is an amazing, stark, depressing statistic. It has to be unmatched by any other current NBA team, whether you want to run it back to Ranadive’s ownership or the Maloof’s or Thomas or Lukenbill.

We’re almost numb to it at this point, but it is absolutely mind boggling how bad this organization has been in Sacramento.

1951
May 12, 2021 12:38 pm
Reply to  Marty

combined with one clown and one inflated ego on the broadcast team

Biggest complaint is that I never know who gets the ball in the 4th quarter anymore! 😉

Kosta
May 12, 2021 12:44 pm
Reply to  1951

I’ve remembered that one possession I was told to remember, in case the Kings ended up losing the game.

And that one possession was from a game 4 years ago!

jjdski
May 12, 2021 11:57 am

There is wisdom in your words.

Kingsguru21
May 12, 2021 12:01 pm

Umm, yeah?

Kosta
May 12, 2021 12:13 pm

And she’s buy-y-ing a stairway to the Play-in
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BeTheBall
May 13, 2021 11:51 am
Reply to  Kosta

“Does anybody remember laughter?”

eddie41
May 12, 2021 12:50 pm

The article presupposes that fans are hopeful for the play-in right now, that they think everything is breaking right for the team, and that they think the wins against OKC (with poku) is an indicator of a turnaround. All of those are wrong. No one thinks that way. So your argument juxtaposes itself against a group of people that don’t exist. Okay.

RobHessing
May 12, 2021 12:54 pm
Reply to  eddie41

The article presupposes that fans are hopeful for the play-in right now

That was not my takeaway at all. Greg wrote this through his lens, not through the lens of other Kings fans. Mileage varies and all that, I guess.

RikSmits
May 12, 2021 1:04 pm
Reply to  RobHessing

Greg wrote this to create a rift between us and our spouses.

Kingsguru21