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Breaking news: Atlanta Hawks submitting an offer sheet on Bogdan Bogdanovic

If Bogdnaovic signs the offer sheet, that's a worst case scenario for the Kings.

According to Sam Amick of The Athletic, the most reliable national reporter when it comes to Sacramento Kings news, the Atlanta Hawks are preparing an offer sheet for restricted free agent Bogdan Bogdanovic:

There are a couple of important distinctions that have yet to be discovered with this news. According to Chris Kirschner, the Hawks beat reporter for The Athletic, the deal will be in the 4-year, $72 million range, but that bit of news doesn't include any details like signing bonuses, annual incentives, or trade kickers. Keep in mind that the Kings will have to match the exact terms of any signed offer sheet to keep Bogi around, and the Hawks will make the deal as unpleasant for the Kings as possible.

Unfortunately for Sacramento, Atlanta has also presevered enough cap space to make that offer to Bogdanovic without having to shed any salary, meaning a sign-and-trade isn't absolutely necessary, although it could still happen. It will be interesting to see if having the Hawks former General Manager on staff will help the Kings in this situation at all.

Once the Hawks do make the official offer to Bogdanovic and his representation, it will be important to note if he actually signs the agreement or if he simply shares the details of the deal with the Kings. If Bogi doesn't officially sign the sheet, he can go back Monte McNair and either allow the Kings to counteroffer, or the Kings and the Hawks can begin negotiations for a sign-and-trade. Conversely, the worst case scenario for Sacramento is for Bogdanovic to sign the offer sheet without speaking to the Kings. In that instance, a sign-and-trade will no longer be an option, as Bogi will have formally signed a contract with another team. The Kigns will be put into the position to either match a $72 million contract for a player they clearly don't see in their future or they'll be forced to allow Bogdanovic to walk away without compensation - neither of which is ideal for a team in Sacramento's position.

A team with cap space sending a large offer sheet to Bogdan Bogdanovic was always Sacramento's biggest fear, and it looks like that's exactly what will happen. Monte McNair has some very important, very tough decisions in front of him over the next 48 hours, the amount of time the Kings are allowed to wait until making a decision on a signed offer sheet.

We'll keep this story updated as news continues to develop.

Update: The Atlanta Hawks have submitted a signed offer sheet to the Kings, meaning a sign-and-trade is no longer an option.

According to Marc Stein of the New York Times, the offer is for 4 years, $72 million and will include a 15% trade kicker, obviously a ploy convince the Kings not to match.

Monte McNair will have 48 hours to either match the exact terms of the sheet or allow Bogdanovic to walk away with no compensation. This will mark the first controversial decision for Sacramento's new General Manager.

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RobHessing
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November 22, 2020 9:47 am

Absent of any insane contract provisions (trade kickers, etc.), Atl. pick/prospect > Bogi 4/$72m > Capela 3/$51m > nothing.

If there is a poison pill in this contract offer, buckle up, because
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November 22, 2020 10:11 am
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November 22, 2020 2:55 pm
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You were right about the poison pill 😔. But hear me out. If the choice is to match or let him walk, is this 4/72 really that bad? After the contracts Bertans and Beasley got?

and you would think as we improve the team around him, his value would increase as well. My only question is if he actually wants to be here. I can’t see Bogi as the type to destroy chemistry in a locker room.

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November 22, 2020 9:48 am

Happy gut-punch Sunday everyone. First Giles, then Bogi, then Baze. Good times.

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November 22, 2020 9:49 am
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🎼Sunday, Bloody Sunday…🎼

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November 22, 2020 10:13 am
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Both the Warriors and Blazers have done a good job this offseason building depth to rosters plagued with injury last year. Harry should get a bit of a chance to develop if Collins is out for a while.

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November 22, 2020 10:35 am
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3 guys I wanted back this year all gone on the same day. never expected to retain all 3 even though I held out some hope for that. Dream s dead.

SAD

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November 22, 2020 10:38 am
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Giles and Bogdan, yes. I don’t have anything but a shrug for €œlosing€ Bazemore.

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November 22, 2020 11:01 am

Just because Bazemore wasn’t here as long you’re shrugging. He did something no one else on the team did, he played defense. And wasn’t mind blowing but was consistent on the floor.

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November 22, 2020 12:30 pm
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No, I’m shrugging because I’ve watched Bazemore for years and know who he is. His role and production can be had for close to the minimum by someone with at least a little upside.

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November 22, 2020 1:30 pm
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Jefferies plays equal quality defense and does not as many forced shots as Baze.

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November 22, 2020 5:53 pm
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He’s still not a very good player, and not really a loss.

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November 22, 2020 2:49 pm

I gotta be honest, other than simply the sentimentality of Giles being a lovable guy, I don’t think losing either Giles or Bazemore really moves the needle in any meaningful way. Giles was gone the second Vlade screwed up his contract situation and Bazemore is old and hasn’t been very good except for a short stretch at the end of last year. Losing Bogi for nothing would hurt but again, it’s partially on Vlade for not moving him for an asset last year when he should have and whatever exactly happened with the botched S&T with Milwaukee.

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November 22, 2020 1:28 pm
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Why is losing Baze a gut punch? The Kings chose DaQuan Jefferies over him and for damn good reason. You are pining over losing a 37% FG shooter who thinks he’s Harden?

Harry cannot stay on the floor because he can’t guard and throws too many risky passes. If he was as good as Kings fan think he is , he would have retrieved more than the minimum.

If you want to do accurate assessment of these players, any player, you need set aside ALL sentimentality.

If you wanted a gut punch that would have been the new GM re-signing these highly fringe non-rotational players, aka Giles and Baze!

As far as Bogi goes, the contract is not prohibitive to us matching, though I wish he signed with the Pacers because they have players I would prefer.

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November 22, 2020 9:53 am

I think it is entirely possible that Monte lets him walk and keeps a clean cap sheet. He may plan to role with his 3 rookies getting solid minutes. He’ll evaluate what he has in them, Jeffries, Guy and chalks the season up to development and plans for the 2021 draft. He may shop the expirings of Parker and Nemanja at the deadline while also fielding offers for Buddy and Barnes.

The future is in Fox, Hali and Bagley. I could get behind the strategy because it is playing the long game.

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HaliComet
November 22, 2020 11:21 am
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Very smart indeed!

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November 22, 2020 11:21 am
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Thats what I expect as well. Im sure he will do so cursing Vlade’s name for putting him into this situation, but he isn’t going to lock his tenure cap wise to a previous roster. One with already poorly committed money in more then one area.

This isnt on his hands as far as i am concerned. It is just horrendous asset management from the Kings front office prior to his tenure. I feel confident this wont be a problem in the future.

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November 22, 2020 11:33 am

If he did his due diligence he isn’t (or shouldn’t be) cursing Vlade, because he knew exactly what the situation was.

We on the other hand…

freepapagiannis
November 22, 2020 1:20 pm

Vlade put him in situation? He forced leaked trade? He got us bogdan in first place with great trade with Suns! I come to new website to see if people finally get it, but same old dummy dumb clowns. this is ridiculous! What a double standard. This entire thing is a calamity because mcnair doesn’t have clue what he is doing. he is rookie gm failing.

McNair screw up this entire situation. He bomb bogdan’s value and make him sad in failed trade to bucks. ask yourself, if same exact thing with vlade happened, what would you say? You would call him idiot and blame him. why no one care to blame Mcnair? He is already WORSE than vlade. he has literally done nothing but give max to player that never made single all star game. he got lucky with halliburton falling, that was no skill. he ruined bogdan value, he let everyone else walk away, no trades. this is a joke. yet all thse people are defending him? you are embarrassment to kings fan. you so hard on vlade for years and now give new guy free passes left and right?

mcnair is a nobody. do you realize he never even play pro basketball? or college? he was a football player! He is last guy in rockets front office to get job, he is the bottom of barrel. you will be wishing for vlade. vlade was patient and kind. this guy is clown. he let bucks talk about trade to media. that’s what did this.

many times people very mad about stauskus trade. but look in the mirror clowns. mcnair ruined good deal with bucks: DJ Wilson and Donte Villanova. thats basically 2 firsts. that almost exactly what happen with stauskas. even reason for that trade, cap space, is same reason people talk about now with letting bodgan walk for nothing. you idiots jsut want to seem smart, you just want to do what everyone says. just cause mcnair comes from rockets you think he’s smart, but he has absolutely failed in this sitation. to blame vlade is embarassing, it just shows how little you know and how little integrity you have. shame!

if you blame vlade for bodgan, then you better give him credit for finding max player fox, finding the face of the franchise. but no, nobody thank vlade for that.

mcnair will let bodgan walk for nothing and set us back even further. so sad. he is fantastic player. i just hope that people will see that letting him walk for nothing is worse case scenario. saving cap space? lol. since when does that work. we must match bodgan and get him back on board. literally him not even playing for months would have more value than nothing. or else we are even further back.

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November 22, 2020 1:25 pm

uh, okay…

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November 22, 2020 1:43 pm

Well, I guess we know Vlade’s TKH handle

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November 22, 2020 2:54 pm

€œI’m gonna need you to stop talking for awhile. Maybe take the next few plays off.€

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November 22, 2020 11:31 am
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Absolutely.

But losing an asset as Bogi for nothing is not ideal.

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November 22, 2020 8:35 pm
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I think we have to match this.

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November 22, 2020 2:50 pm
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Yeah I don’t love the idea of losing Bogi for nothing but at the end of the day I’m not sure it matters because we are not on a timeline where he is going to help us a whole lot.

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November 22, 2020 3:55 pm

For me it is simple asset management. We are seeing Bogi’s value around the league right now. He has had several suitors. Including playoff teams (Pacers) and championship contenders (Bucks).

Maybe we disagree on this point, but I don’t see that level of interest for Buddy.

So we can match $18m/yr (or about $3m/yr less than Buddy), or we can lose that asset for nothing. ..Cap space? Who could the Kings use that space on that is better than Bogi? Last free agent we signed in that range was George Hill. That turned out well.

Match the offer, then shop Buddy. Or Barnes. Bottom line is Bogi at that Schlenk contract is better than the heist Buddy’s and Barnes’ agent pulled over on Vlade.

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November 22, 2020 7:52 pm
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This is good

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November 22, 2020 8:32 pm
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Very good points, but I cringe at Paper Bagley being the future.

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November 22, 2020 9:53 am
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November 22, 2020 9:56 am
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As expected. If Sacramento wanted to keep him, they would have.

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November 22, 2020 10:02 am

No that’s 100% the other way. He didn’t want to be here. Neither does Buddy, Bogdan, and Bazemore (who the Kings certainly made an offer and probably offered more than the Ws). Because he was a nice and fun kid, Kings fans talked themselves into a few things on a few fronts with Giles. His reps made it clear Friday, anywhere but here was their plan. The offers weren’t great, so he took the best one that wasn’t here.

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November 22, 2020 10:05 am
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You don’t think he would have stuck around here on a 1 year deal that was twice what Portland paid him? Especially given that the front office that ostensibly wronged him was fired? I highly, highly doubt it. Particularly since his path to playing time isn’t much better in Portland.

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November 22, 2020 10:19 am

On Friday, he had his agent announce, without a non-minimum offer in hand, that he was signing literally anywhere but here. What happened and why is pretty clear.

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November 22, 2020 10:20 am
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unless I missed something, you’re wrongly assuming that was Giles’s unilateral decision.

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November 22, 2020 10:29 am

The Stockholm Syndrome level process of some Kings fans pivoting right from: (1) this player has upside and a lot of value; to (2) the Kings correctly decided he was not worth a minimum offer days before free agency opened it really something.

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November 22, 2020 10:34 am
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You’ll have to take that particular criticism elsewhere. I’ve been on record here and on the old site repeatedly as saying the criticism of Vlade for declining this option was way overblown ever since it happened. I never thought he was worth $4 million this season. Maybe if you thought he’d develop into consistent rotation player, it would have been justifiable to keep him under team control for a couple more years to see if he pans out. As much as I love his personality and effort, I just don’t see it with him.

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November 22, 2020 10:38 am

Agreed – you can’t beat internet psychoanalysis, especially when a healthy dose of conflating is sprinkled in.

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November 22, 2020 10:58 am
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I am curious to find out what happened with Giles though. I asked a question in the chainmail last week about why everyone in the media seemed so certain Giles was gone since it didn’t seem like his contract would be the issue. It now looks like either Giles or McNair just decided to go in a different direction.

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November 22, 2020 11:00 am
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Sometimes a clean break is best for everyone.

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November 22, 2020 11:05 am
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My guess is that the organization not picking up his $3.9m option was a deal breaker for him.

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November 22, 2020 2:55 pm
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Agreed. I’m not sure Vlade being gone really mattered. The option wasn’t picked up so he wanted to go elsewhere. And why wouldn’t he? Why the hell would anyone voluntarily choose to stay with this organization?

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November 22, 2020 10:34 am
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How do you it wasn’t just that McNair told Giles agent they were going in a different direction?

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November 22, 2020 10:42 am
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because that, whilst likely, does not fit into the narrative he has constructed

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November 22, 2020 11:03 am
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Harry was in no way shape or form at fault for any of his issue’s. It was all Vlade, all the Kings org.

He signed for the minimum to be a 4th big in PDX’s rotation. That doesn’t scream incredible opportunity to me. I’m rooting for Harry, but his ability to impact a team at this point is far from certain.

The Kings have enough other things going on. Adding a project in his 4th year just doesn’t seem to be the best way to go for all parties. Harry might figure it out, he might not. But he’s better off in PDX for every reason imaginable starting with he’ll be playing with an established veteran group that won’t tolerate his dumb mistakes. Harry needs that.

I’m rooting for Harry, but I hardly see this as major news if it weren’t for the fact that Harry were so popular with the fanbase.

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November 22, 2020 1:24 pm
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Given final contract that giles get, even after decent flashes this year, it seems entire league agree with vlade he not worth $4mm. he just saw it before everyone else because he has eye for talent. giles is great guy with great energy, but he has major injury issues and was not able to grow in way he need to show value of multi year deal. wish him best in portland, but idea that vlade make mistake has been proven wrong with final deal he sign.

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November 22, 2020 2:53 pm

I don’t think he would have stuck around at all for any reason.

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November 22, 2020 3:08 pm

The best way to put lipstick on this pig, IMO FK&C, is I’m happy for Harry and hope he does well in Portand. But I’m not sure Harry takes the Blazers’ offer if the Kings offer him 3.9 million. He doesn’t have that much money made in his career to turn that down.

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November 22, 2020 3:21 pm
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That’s true but honestly if I were in his shoes I might be thinking that I’ve got faith in my own abilities and they will shine through for a competent organization so I need to go anywhere but here. Maybe I’m wrong but I just think we tend to underestimate how big of an impact not picking up a player’s option has on their feelings towards the organization whether the FO who made the decision is still in place or not.

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November 22, 2020 3:29 pm

I’m not underestimating it at all. But when you’re talking about the difference of 2.5 million dollars for a guy who has made all of 6.5 million dollars his entire career, I don’t think you automatically turn that down because of hurt feelings.

That said, I don’t think Monte was going to bring him back.

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November 22, 2020 3:35 pm
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I’m certainly open to the idea that it’s a little of A and a little of B. It’s possible Mcnair didn’t want him back and I have a feeling Harry isn’t too sad to be leaving either.

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November 22, 2020 3:56 pm

Well said FK&C. I think it’s a fresh start/clean break for everyone.

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November 22, 2020 3:41 pm

I think it’s because of Walton. If he wasn’t the coach then they’d all be staying this year, he’s an extension of Vlade.

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November 22, 2020 9:54 am

So…who wants to be the one to tell Monte Free Agency has started?

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November 22, 2020 10:02 am

Match the offer. Trade Buddy. That is all.

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November 22, 2020 10:32 am
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This^

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November 22, 2020 10:39 am
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EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

match!!!!!!!

Then trade Budddy to Atlanta.

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November 22, 2020 11:53 am
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The problem with this is Buddies low value right now, and keeping bobo wont help increase that value either weve seen that story play out. Unfortunately this is all collateral damage by Vlade. He had suiters for bobo when he could have sold high at the trade deadline and chose not too. Now unfortunately with the presumed trade kicker attached to bobo we lose him for nothing and it falls on Vlade. Now Buddy has a chance to rebuild his value as a starter so we can net picks and assets for him at the trade deadline.

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November 22, 2020 1:26 pm

Sounds like you one of thse people who want to tank. at deadline we try to still make playoffs. we wanted to have fox buddy and bogie as backcourt going forward. it was smart not to trade him, and if anything vlade very smart about it cause bucks still interested.

mcnair completely fumbled this entire situation. he rushes to made agreement with bucks, and then doesnt understand rules and everything explodes to nothing. complete mismanage. that is what this is. why you so scared to acknowledge that he is in charge and he made the mistakes? blame vlade is like blaming your ex gf who you broke up with for never getting action. you seem like person who understands never getting action,

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November 22, 2020 3:43 pm

Vlade is that you?

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November 22, 2020 4:00 pm

Vlade’s English is better.

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November 22, 2020 6:04 pm

You do know that the Bucks were the ones who leaked the trade and is therefore not on McNair.

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November 22, 2020 11:31 pm
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It was probably BB8’s agent who leaked the trade, not the Bucks or Kings.

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November 22, 2020 3:40 pm

I think we can get decent value for Hield still. Maybe a pick/ prospect and filler. I don’t think his value will increase much (if at all) the more he plays under Walton.

Much better than letting Bogi walk. Bogdan is better, and now we know he is also slightly cheaper than Buddy. And he comes without the prima Donna baggage.

No brainer in my opinion to match the offer. We are not getting a better player than Bogi for $18m in free agency. Maybe the next George Hill?

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November 22, 2020 1:05 pm
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Or…match the offer and start Bogi. Buddy signed a contract and right or wrong the team has the right to play him wherever they want. Buddy can be sixth man. It didn’t hurt Bobby Jackson.

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November 22, 2020 10:09 am

I still don’t think this is a great move by ATL, given Kevin Huerter’s age and incredibly similar numbers.

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November 22, 2020 10:16 am

I don’t either. Either they are just desperate to add some talent, or they think he’ll have value on that contract. Really don’t know which it is.

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November 22, 2020 1:11 pm

Atlanta smells like a team rushing to get into the playoffs. They are using all their cap space to get a 5th or 6th seed in the east to get knocked out by a sound defensive team in the first round.

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November 22, 2020 10:29 am

I’m a bit surprised to. Huerter is not going to get a whole lot of minutes with the addition of Dunn, Rondo, and now Bogi. They are already loaded at the wings with Hunter and Reddish.

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November 22, 2020 10:33 am
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Respectfully disagree. They’ve added guys at roughly fair value and held onto to all of their young prospects. They’re better, and they’re deeper.

I don’t see an albatross deal on their cap sheet.

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November 22, 2020 10:37 am
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I agree they have a very nice cap sheet, I just wonder about their rotations with their new additions. They’ve added Rodno, Dunn, Gallo, Snell and now Bogi and I think they may be doing their youth and Huerter, Hunter, and Reddish a disservice at the expense of trying to win now.

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November 22, 2020 11:20 am
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I think that being 10-11 deep in this coming season is a very, very good thing.

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November 22, 2020 11:35 am
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I think they are giving Huerter Hunter and Reddish a chance at actually earning minutes as opposed to just giving it to them. That’s not a bad thing.

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November 22, 2020 10:31 am

Huerter can play one position and a likely career backup at that spot ! Bogi much more valuable for several years !

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November 22, 2020 10:33 am
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Huerter just turned 22, can shoot from deep and is a willing passer. I think he will be in the league for the next 12 years and will be a very good piece on winning teams.

KingofNOthing
November 22, 2020 10:10 am

Eh, not really a Bogi Fan at all. He has 1 great game, then 2 disappointing games.

He didn`t rest his body when he was dealing with injury and played with his country team in the offseason.

He never had any loyalty to the kings anyway.

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November 22, 2020 10:11 am

Ehh if the contract is too expensive and has a lots of provisions that would make it impossible to match then just let Bogi walk. I understand that we should keep an asset and trade him soon but with that type of provisions (I assume there will be) it almost becomes a negative asset in the long run rather than a positive.

Might as well have a clean slate rather than tying up more money that could affect our flexibility moving forward. Mcnair has talked a lot about having flexibility so I wouldn’t be surprised if he let Bogi walk.. Just roll with our rookies and see what we have, get a top 5 pick in 2021 and call it a day.

Let’s face it, this team ain’t making the playoffs this season. Might as well have a clean cap moving forward.

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November 22, 2020 10:16 am
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I am 100% in agreement – just let him walk, keep the cap clean, see if the new FO can patch things up with Buddy.

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November 22, 2020 10:40 am
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Just found out about the updated details on Bogi’s contract. A 15% trade kicker in his 4th year. Idk, I might actually want to match it. Having Bogi at 18 million per year is not that bad compared to Buddy. I might just keep Bogdan and find a way to trade Buddy during the season or next.

Looking at the details of the contract it actually ain’t that bad as I imagined.

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November 22, 2020 3:34 pm
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When I saw 4/72, my first thought was simple, match it!

It’s right at the edge of what I thought they should pay to retain him and compared to other deals in the league, its absolutely fair.

Either trade Buddy, both, or keep both into next year and decide where to go after a reset. He is still an asset at that price and Bogi is a player that could always be traded after next year if necessary.

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November 22, 2020 10:24 am

Details:

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November 22, 2020 10:35 am
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If I can’t get a prospect or pick, I match, and look at dealing Hield or Bogi (or both, depending on what I can get in return) at the trade deadline. It’s asset management, and I think that Bogi at 4/$72m is a better asset than nothing.

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November 22, 2020 10:40 am
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I agree. Match, move Buddy and go from there. The Kings are not going to find value replacement for Bogi in free agency or the current trade market. The only guy who comes close is Huerter, but ATL has no incentive to S&T.

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November 22, 2020 11:28 am
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I agree. I wonder if McNair has been trying to deal Hield. I think those efforts would be relevant for ascertaining the trade market for BB (a player of roughly similar overall value) at this salary range. Maybe, if the response to Hield proposals has been, €œLOL, only if you take Horford back,€ I can understand McNair not wanting to add another salary in this range that is unlikely to return positive assets in a trade.

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November 22, 2020 11:32 am

My guess is not so much “deal” as “listen to all offers.” My perverted wish is that this team stumble out of the blocks this season, leading to a deadline purge that sees expiring contracts and prospects/picks come back in return. But with the play-in now confirmed at 10 teams, I could see McNair getting pressure to leave it alone if the Kings are within sniffing distance come the trade deadline.

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November 22, 2020 11:58 am
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I think the problem is that if the team is a tire fire, that probably means Hield and Barnes are doing a lot to help their trade value.

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November 22, 2020 11:36 am

I just dont see how Buddy is tradable. And the logic of retaining is hyperly reliant on that being plausible. And Bogi likely has a trade kicker in this offer sheet. If that is the framework to justify this retention it has to come with a big slice of what if.

Maybe in a years time post a Buddy drop in salary (2nd year drops to 20). But by that point it is more than plausible he will be grossly overvalued, let alone a understood malcontent. And a deal will likely be structured with the Kings eating some poor salary in that hypothetical as well.

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November 22, 2020 11:59 am

Plausible. I personally don’t see Hield as being outrageously overpaid and as such I find it difficult to believe he’s untradeable, but some analysts (like Danny Leroux) strongly disagree.

AmphibiousHandle
November 22, 2020 12:03 pm

That said, Leroux just wrote that BB’s offer sheet is a reasonable one which the Kings should match, so maybe I’m just off base in my premise that he and Hield are even roughly equivalent talents.

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November 22, 2020 12:04 pm

Most people are of the opinion that the Kings should match this Bogi deal.

I’m personally of the opinion that it’s time to let go and mostly at this point I’m tipping my cap to the Atl FO for doing a smart thing. They played their cards perfectly for Bogi.

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November 22, 2020 12:51 pm

Thats very interesting. Few are smarter than Leroux. Objectively I hve no argument the deal is fair, removed of prior commitments. And iits a grey zone just generally, far more granular a decision than most. And similarly my thoughts on Buddy dictate my perceptions as well.

I would say what appears true in relation to Buddy’s trade market, he has no apparent suitors. I think it’s safe to say year 1 will be very hard to move based on the frontloaded nature of the structure. Not just in evaluations of Buddy but functionally. Thus the overlap of the Fox extension is likely. And in the picking up Bogi’s deal, now McNair is trade hunting with players not his own, that are older than his priorities. The competitiveness of this team would be made in the margins. Personally because of the corner we put ourselves in I dont think it would be my first choice to sign up for that.

i can think of a myriad of sensible ways we couldnt have been in that situation but thats not the case.

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November 22, 2020 1:03 pm

What we are seeing here IMO, Zebra, is the reality of how much one person’s decision doesn’t just stop at the time of the decision, but really plays out over a much longer term. We’re really not going to find out much about Monte at all until at least a couple years down the road into this thing.

He’s just cleaning up Vlade’s mess…..and that’s SOP for new GM’s on the job. They don’t get opportunities that are tailor made, they get the opportunities that come…usually with poorly run franchises.

I’ll say this: If Monte made this decision based on the public reaction, that I’m going to struggle with. You just can’t run a franchise in public no matter how much the fans believe you can.

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November 22, 2020 1:28 pm
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What mess? We have roster that was right in the mix for playoffs with upside. now we back to bottom because he doesnt know what he’s doing. you give him couple years? wow. what a double standard. when vlade make mistakes year one where were you? exactly.

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November 22, 2020 1:54 pm
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You just can't run a franchise in public no matter how much the fans believe you can

that sir is a great statement, and 100% accurate

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November 22, 2020 2:09 pm
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Couldn’t agree more. And even with this issue on Monte’s hands there is reason for optimism on both his and our parts. This in itself is a murky decision, one I can say I feel less assured by in my own thoughts oon it, than in past ones of a similar vein.

But as you say decisions made now dictate future options available. And in this case the needle hole I would argue because of an avoidance pertaining these players in the past forces a narrowing of the future regardless. If thats worth it is tough to say. As you say thats Monte’s job.

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November 22, 2020 10:34 am

Tough to improve losing assets and counting on unproven draft picks !

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November 22, 2020 10:39 am

I think I’m fine with letting him walk. Fox has essentially given his blessing on them not really even trying to compete this upcoming season. If the Kings can find a way to move off of Barnes/Buddy without taking back too much future money, then the Kings will go into next offseason with a ton of cap space, and a high draft pick to work with.

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November 22, 2020 10:49 am
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I am fine with letting him walk as well. Its disappointing the market didnt allow us a chance for a sign and trade, but at this point, Halliburton is a younger and cheaper version of Bogi, and will likely be better than him in the 21-22 season. I think Buddy is more valuable to the Kings currently as well as a much more dangerous shooter than BB, and I think he is a better asset moving forward than Bogi as well, as his contract declines and his shooting is still elite, we can move him for whatever we need as we see how Fox, Bagley, and Haliburton develop.

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November 22, 2020 1:29 pm
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Letting walk for nothing would be the worst outcome. he has good value on that deal, even if he is just same player. can at least get something at trade deadline. cap space has little value for us, we can’t get anyone who is good deal, only overpays.

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November 22, 2020 3:52 pm
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With the draft odds right now, we’ll be getting at least the 7th or 8th pick even if we tank hard. No sense tanking these days, it’s much better to play hard and get the new guys some reps. 2021 Draft has some killer prospects ready to play at a high level.

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November 22, 2020 10:41 am

or they’ll be forced to allow Bogdanovic to walk away without compensation

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November 22, 2020 10:47 am

Theres only one correct answer here.

Match and then trade Buddy. Do it now, Do it in 6 months or do it in a year. Preferably now.

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November 22, 2020 10:57 am
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Buddy is better

20/5/3, excellent splits, work ethic

Bogdan is inconsistent and did nothing as a starter

they’ve probably been trying to trade Buddy too, his market is down with the benching

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November 22, 2020 11:27 am
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Buddy cannot stay in front of an eighth grader on defense.

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November 22, 2020 11:35 am
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He is an elite, elite volume deep shooter. In the right situation he would win his position on most nights.

I understand that Hield’s personality grates on folks, and he is far from a perfect player. But in today’s NBA, he indeed has value. In fact, it could be argued that he is closer to the top of his position right now than anyone else on the Kings roster.

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