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Royal Roundtable: Can Kings topple the Champs?

In the second of our two part roundtable series, The Kings Herald Staff gives their predictions on the outcome of the first round series against the Warriors.
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Nov 13, 2022; Sacramento, California, USA; Sacramento Kings guard De'Aaron Fox (5) shoots over Golden State Warriors guard Jordan Poole (3) during the third quarter at Golden 1 Center. Mandatory Credit: Ed Szczepanski-USA TODAY Sports

With the first round series against the Golden State Warriors just around the corner, the Kings Herald staff got together to take a look at Sacramento’s first playoff series in 17 years and offer our perspectives and predictions. Part One is here

Q:  Who is the X-Factor for the Kings against the Warriors?

Akis:  I’m going to go with Malik Monk.  Monk can be hot or cold, but when he’s hot, it’s incredibly hard to stop this Kings team. The Kings went 17-5 this season when Monk scored 17 or more points.  On the other hand, when Monk scored 10 points or fewer (including games he missed), the Kings were only 16-16. With Monk operating at his peak, the Kings will be able to put pressure on the Warriors for 48 minutes.  

Rob H.: My darkhorse candidates are Davion Mitchell and Trey Lyles. I think that either / both can deliver small contributions that wind up making a big difference. 

Bryant: Malik Monk. The Kings will need their bench energy to stay consistent all series long, and that starts with Monk finding consistency and having 4 to 7 great games in a row. 

Tim: Someone from the bench is going to need to step up in a big way, as there are going to be nights in which the starters are missing their shots. If that’s the situation, I most trust Trey Lyles to come in and immediately imprint his style of play on the game. While he’s not a microwave scorer like Malik Monk or an incredible defender like Davion Mitchell, Lyles’ active and aggressive, yet calm approach to the game might snag the Kings an extra victory. And outside of his basketball skills, his willingness to take on the role of the chirpy enforcer will do well against the antics of Draymond Green. 

Omer: Trey Lyles. I expect the Kings to play a heavy dose of Lyles at center in non-Sabonis minutes since the Kings’ backup centers haven’t exactly inspired much confidence. But the Warriors also like to go small with Draymond Green at center, so it’s natural to try and match up with Lyles in the same way. But Lyles will also be important if Keegan Murray struggles to keep up in the blender the Warriors will put you in defensively. Lyles at power forward next to Sabonis makes the Kings less athletic but potentially more disciplined on defense, and Lyles has been a better rebounder. The Kings need Lyles to be ready. 

Kevin: I’ve been saying this all season but I fully expect Malik Monk to win us a playoff game. His seemingly endless supply of energy and ability to drop bunches of points in the blink of an eye is the kind of stuff that playoff legends are made of. Beyond that, I think for the Kings to succeed, they need Monk to keep the scoring on track when the starters sit.

Melissa: I want to say Malik Monk. I think it’s probably Malik Monk. But, I am going to divert and go Keegan Murray. The rookie has been unbelievable this season, and his development into an all around player has been a joy to watch. If Wiggins is healthy enough to make an impact, he could cause Murray problems, but do we really think Donte DiVincenzo can match up with him? If Keegan shoots like he’s shot all season and does more of the attacking that has been a consistent part of his game over the last couple of months, he could be the guy who improves his scoring by 5-6 points in the postseason and becomes the difference-maker with the Warriors’ defense focused on the bigger stars.

Bradley: Mike Brown. I do not remember if any assistants faced the Warriors this soon after leaving their bench. He shut me up about a million concerns and I have no doubt he can do so again. That said, his ability to keep the team on their feet regardless of who plays well is the difference between a long series and a short one. On the court? Huerter and Monk. I like the team’s chances if one of them can have a good game every night.

Tony: Davion Mitchell. I’m not too worried about the Kings’ offense heading into this series. I am pretty worried about their defense. Mitchell is the only defender on this roster with the potential to make great players look mediocre. He’s not going to be able shut down Steph Curry or Klay Thompson or Jordan Poole every night. The NBA doesn’t work like that. Great scorers will score. But Davion can do it once. Davion can do it in a big moment. Davion can be a defensive playmaker. And if he makes enough of those plays, that could be enough to tip the scales in what I think is a pretty even series. 

Greg:  Kessler Edwards. He’s been inconsistent, but his defense could be huge against Curry, or Klay, or Wiggins, or Poole. If he can string together a couple games of solid perimeter defense and add a little extra on offense, that alone could swing a few games.

Q:  Rotations tend to tighten up in the playoffs.  What do you think the biggest difference in Sacramento’s rotation will be for this series?

Akis:  I have a feeling we’re going to see a shorter leash for Keegan Murray in this series than we did in the regular season and probably more Davion Mitchell, given the Warriors tendency to go small and the need for a real impact defender in the backcourt.  The rookie has had a fantastic season, but there’s so much more on the line in the playoffs and I don’t see Mike Brown being as forgiving for mistakes on either end of the floor.

Rob H: I could see Mike Brown riding the hot hand of Huerter or Monk, with the minutes swaying back and forth between the two of them.

Bryant: Given that the Warriors lack a traditional center off the bench, here’s hoping Mike Brown sticks small and uses Trey Lyles as his backup 5. No need to play any of Holmes, Metu, or Len for big minutes outside of foul trouble. I’m hoping Kessler Edwards gets some run for defensive purposes, but I’m not expecting it. I think we’ll see a stricter 8 man rotation. 

Tim: Were going to see eight and nine man rotations all series, with Alex Len likely heading back to the bench, and Kessler Edwards not getting a ton of game time either. Richaun Holmes and Chimezie Metu will cease to exist in Mike Brown’s mind. The Kings will roll small with Lyles at the five when Sabonis is out, with multiple guard-heavy lineups thrown in there as well. 

Omer: I already kind of addressed this in the last question, but I don’t expect the Kings to play their backup centers much, if at all. Chimezie Metu, Alex Len, and Richaun Holmes don’t offer much to counter the Warriors’ style defensively and will clog the lane on offense. I expect Lyles at center to clear driving lanes for De’Aaron Fox and Malik Monk, and the Kings may not pay a tax for the lack of size because the Warriors like to play Draymond and JaMychal Green at center off the bench. 

Kevin: Not only do I think the rotation tightens up quite a bit but I’d imagine we see a lot less of De’Aaron Fox sitting on the bench for those long predetermined stretches that can feel like an eternity. Foul trouble withstanding, I have to imagine he’ll want Fox and Sabonis on the floor together as much as possible and we’ll rarely see both of them sitting at the same time. I’m expecting we’ll see damn near 40 minutes a night from both of them. 

Melissa: I expect to see a lot more small ball against the Warriors, so thank you for your service, Alex Len. But otherwise, I think Brown will dance with the ones that brought him – while leaning more into riding the hot hand when the opportunity presents itself. I am interested to see if we get more Mitchell for his defensive prowess and what role Kessler Edwards plays – he was very good once acquired and his defense has a place, but if he can’t knock down the open three, he might not get the run we have seen him get the last few weeks.

Bradley: I don’t have much to say that wasn’t said by my esteemed colleagues. Though I do see some situations where Alex Len’s size comes in handy – used sparingly. Other than that, I expect the guys who received sporadic minutes to get their reps when needed, but they’ll have to earn prolonged stints as the series (and whatever the plural form of series is) moves on.

Tony: The biggest difference to me will be big minutes for the best players. Mike Brown has tinkered with the end of his rotation all year and I expect that to continue in the playoffs if certain guys aren’t playing well, but I think it’s time for Brown to fully unleash Fox and Sabonis. They are two of the best-conditioned athletes at their positions, in the prime of their careers, and it’s time to leave it all out of the floor. 

Greg: If Terence Davis sees the floor, it means something has gone terribly wrong.

Q:  Do you think Sacramento’s historic offense will hold up against the Warriors?

Akis:  I’m really not worried about Sacramento’s offense.  The Kings have a ton of weapons and a lot of ways to utilize them.  Mike Brown also knows the ins and outs of the Warriors (and ways to exploit them) better than anyone outside of maybe Steve Kerr himself.  The Warriors aren’t the defensive juggernaut they used to be either, and who knows how long Andrew Wiggins will take to get re-acclimated.  The game is supposed to slow down in the playoffs but the Kings were the 2nd best halfcourt offense in the NBA this season according to Cleaning the Glass (only Dallas ranked higher and Golden State ranked 6th).  I’m more worried about the other end of the floor for the Kings.

Rob H.: I could easily envision some record breaking point totals from these two teams.

Bryant: While it’s certainly possible this inexperienced Kings squad could get some “we’re finally here” playoff jitters in the earlier games, I have no worries about their offense across the whole of the series. Like Rob said, we’re going to see some damn shootouts. 

Tim: I’m not really concerned about the offense holding up. Sure, possessions will be fewer and scores will go down across the board, but the Kings can score in so many ways that I don’t really fear them collapsing just because it’s the playoffs. De’Aaron Fox is still going to rule the fourth quarter, Domantas Sabonis is still going to dazzle with his passing, and Sacramento’s shooters are all pretty reliable from deep. I’m not worried. 

Omer: Yes. The Warriors are middling defensively (14th in defensive rating this season), their best wing defender in Wiggins hasn’t played in months, and their second best perimeter defender in Gary Payton II just came back from injury eight games ago. This team doesn’t have the same continuity they had last season, and in order to defend in today’s NBA you need your whole roster on the same page. The Kings also have no weaknesses offensively. They stretch you out with their shooters and bash you in the paint with Fox and Sabonis. The biggest question is on the other end of the court.

Kevin: Yes, I absolutely do. This might be one of the highest scoring playoff series we’ve ever seen. A lot is being made of the Kings bad defense but this Warriors team is not good defensively either and honestly they aren’t much better than the Kings. Golden State gave up an average 117 ppg this season which isn’t too dissimilar from the 118 ppg average the Kings allowed. In most seasons the Warriors 113 DRgt would be the worst in the league and it’s basically their worst DRtg in franchise history. And while it’s true that everyone’s DRtg is inflated this season due to an insane increase in scoring league-wide, and relative to the average the Warriors are an average defensive team, in most recent seasons being just 5 points worse than the lowest DRtg in the league (which the Kings currently are), would also make you a top 10 defense. Are the Warriors a better defensive team than the Kings relative to the league average? Sure. Are the Warriors a good defensive team? No, I really don’t think so and I certainly do not fear their defense. If you look at Kings vs Warriors pre All-Star break, which would account for all 3 of the games that Sacramento didn’t basically try to lose on purpose, the Warriors gave up an average of 120 ppg (20th worst in the league against the Kings). They say, “Defense wins championships.” If 28 of the 30 teams in the league can’t manage to hold their opponents to less than 110 ppg on average, you better be able to score. Defense is for nerds and the Kings are going to light up the scoreboard. 

Melissa: There will be a game or two where they struggle, because that happens to offensive-minded teams that have little playoff experience. But this series screams take the over, as both teams will likely be content to get up and down and try and outscore each other. It will be interesting to see if either team is capable of playing “playoff basketball” and tightening the screws if needed on defense, but when your bread is so obviously buttered on one end of the floor, and so is your opponent’s is there much of a reason to try and change your style this series?

 Bradley: Yes, this Warriors team doesn’t scare me much in terms of the team’s offense. If the Warriors win, I believe it means that Steph or Klay showed up with Wiggins and the unchartreused rogue’s gallery behind them.

Tony: Yes. Draymond’s playoff defense and physicality could ruin this answer for me, I’ll give him that, but for the most part I think the Kings will score enough to win the series. Will they defend enough? I’m not so sure. 

Greg: I think the offense will be just fine. That said, I won’t be surprised at all if it looks really bad in the first quarter of Game 1. The Kings have had a habit of slow starts especially in big games where the crowd is really hyped.

Q:  What is your prediction for who wins this series and how many games?

Akis:  This was one of the toughest draws the Kings could have gotten after such an amazing year, which is a bit unfair, but it’s also a nice test. Still, I do think that in the end the Warriors experience will win out, but the Kings will make them earn it.  Warriors in 7.  If the Kings do manage to win the series though, what a confidence boost.

Rob H.: Give me the Kings in the full seven. I mean, why not, right? Why. The. F. Not?

Bryant: I wish I was as confident/eternally optimistic as my fellow Kings Herald writers. I would love to have this prediction mocked endlessly by the Sacramento faithful in two and a half weeks. I’d love to see our Kangz be the ones who finally dethrone the Warriors in the Western Conference. But I’ll believe the Warriors dynasty is dead when they are done and buried. Dubs in 6. 

Tim: Kings in six. They’re younger. They’re better. Light the Beam. 

Omer: Kings in seven. I think bettors and analysts are all counting on the Warriors to regain their form from the last playoff run. And, honestly speaking, if the Warriors do flip that switch, the Warriors will clean up the Kings 5 or 6 games. But I can’t help feel the Warriors have been telling us who they are for the last six months. They have been painfully average ever since the champagne dried on their locker room floor. They are 14-13 with their starting five healthy. Their defensive leader punched out their best young player last offseason and they haven’t found the same gear on defense since. They are absolutely atrocious on the road and are shambolic in close games this season. Everything about the Warriors in 2022-23 on paper says the Kings should beat them. Like I said, this all changes if the 2022 Champions show up on Saturday. For the purposes of an official prediction, I’m going to split the difference: the Warriors will raise their level of play, but not to the same level they were at last season, and the Kings will win in seven games. Light the beam!

Kevin: A dynasty will end while a new one begins. The Beam’s holy light will reach for the heavens four times this series. Kings in 7. 

Melissa: Kings in 7. I don’t know if I believe it but I’ll happily try and talk myself into it. Light it up, baby.

Bradley: Cute little run there, Stephen. Kings in 4.

Tony: Kings in 7. I think the Kings have a better team this year, but the Warriors have a significant experience advantage. Numbers and statistics can’t determine the impact that’ll have on the series, and that unpredictable factor makes this matchup a toss-up for me. The Kings had a much better regular season. How will that translate into a playoff series against the defending champions? I honestly have no idea. But I’m choosing to believe. 

Greg: Kings in 6. If you took this matchup on paper and it was any team not named The Sacramento Kings, the Kings would be favored despite the past experience of the Warriors. I am ready to believe in this team.

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April 13, 2023 11:56 am

Kings in 5 , we are classy so a Gentleman’s sweep

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April 13, 2023 12:13 pm

Kings in five or six sounds about right. Looking back on this series in the future, I think we’ll be surprised at how close we thought it would be.

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April 13, 2023 12:46 pm

Kings in six.

If the Kangz show up….forfeit after game 2.

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April 13, 2023 1:00 pm

Absolutely.
X-factor is Huerter.
Bye bye bigs not named Sabonis or Lyles.
The offense won’t be an issue.
Kings in 6. If it goes to 7, the edge probably goes to the Warriors, if healthy.

Hope everyone is doing well.

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April 13, 2023 3:32 pm

I am with you about the X-factor being Huerter. I am hopeful that the extra rest during the playoffs will be good for his legs and shooting.

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April 13, 2023 1:17 pm

I wouldn’t object to seeing brief stretches where Len and Davis are on the floor to commit hard fouls on Warriors trying to run roughshod in the paint. Both have the kind of strength to prevent shooters from getting away shots that have a realistic chance to land.

Both are also decent shotblockers, but their mission should be to mug anyone who’s gotten by them. If we give up bunches of and-ones, it’ll be a short series.

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April 14, 2023 5:25 am
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I agree with this. I think Len especially is going to see some sporadic minutes.

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April 13, 2023 1:29 pm

MIKE BROWN, DEFENDING NBA CHAMPION.
READY TO REPEAT.

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April 13, 2023 1:42 pm

I hope we get Kings in 6 or 7. Even before game 1 starts, this will probably be one of the most exciting playoff series to watch.

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April 13, 2023 2:25 pm
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Looks like Coach Brown will become the sixth coach in history to win Coach of the Year and the Championship in the same season. As well as the sixth coach in history to win the Championship in their first year as HC.
What a hire by MM! 🟣🔦

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April 13, 2023 2:30 pm
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That isnt the actual coach of the year award voted on by media. It’s a peer award.

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April 13, 2023 10:24 pm
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Chosen by peers vs. chosen by media?

Peers > Media

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April 13, 2023 2:00 pm

Can they win? Absolutely they can!
Will they win? I certainly hope so!
reminds me of the first playoff series in 99 against the Jazz where Jazz had HOF players in Stockton and Malone, they had been to two straight Finals and been in playoffs for 6-7 straight years. Of course we were the eight seed and they were the number one. I know we are seeded higher than the Warriors this year. If you recall the first game against the playoff tested Jazz we looked like a deer in the headlights and that’s a little bit of my fear with this game against the Warriors on Saturday. If we lose the first we will be in an huge disadvantage for winning given the Warriors home record. I get that we are great on the road but that first game and being overwhelmed scares me and unfortunately I think we’re going to lose in seven.

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April 13, 2023 4:31 pm
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I should have been clearer.. I think the Kings lose in Seven if they lose the first game.

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April 13, 2023 5:37 pm
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What I remember about that Jazz series is that the Kings would’ve won the series if it wasn’t for Stockton’s game-winning shot in Game 4 (I was at that game & it really hurt). Btw, Utah had home court advantage in that series, but I don’t believe that it was the #1 seed that season.

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April 13, 2023 6:00 pm
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you are correct it was a 3 vs 6..

I was there too and I blame that loss on my ex-wife.. when the kings were up late in that game I think it was by six or eight points and there was a time out and she called a friend of hers from work who was a jazz fan and started taunting. I should’ve divorced her then.

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April 13, 2023 2:10 pm

“RAZZ THE JAZZ”

“RATTLE SEATTLE”

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What is a playoff slogan for this series?

CHECKMATE GOLDEN STATE?

STUB THE DUBS?

SLAY THE BAY?

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April 13, 2023 2:19 pm
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“RAZZ THE JAZZ”
“RATTLE SEATTLE”

Brings back fond memories of days gone by. I still remember the SacBee used to mail out inserts of these slogans for fans to hang around town. I’m guessing I have them laying around somewhere.

Slay the Bay sounds the most catchy in my book.

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April 13, 2023 2:39 pm
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Drub the Dubs.

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April 13, 2023 4:13 pm
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I see I’m late, but great minds and so forth.

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April 13, 2023 5:07 pm
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Degraded minds think alike.

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April 13, 2023 4:12 pm
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Drub the Dubs.

You’re welcome.

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April 13, 2023 8:22 pm
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Slay the Bay sounds great.

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April 13, 2023 10:36 pm
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RAZZ THE JAZZ”

“RATTLE SEATTLE

ROLL AND DEFLATE GOLDEN STATE

I thought we had to do a “start with R” thing

if not – how about –

CONJURE DYSPHORIAS FOR THE WARRIORS!!

maybe, I’m not good at this game

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April 14, 2023 8:41 am
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Wilt the Warriors
Obliterate Oakland

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April 13, 2023 2:16 pm

Countless spinchters are puckered up across Sac in anticipation of 5:30 pm, Saturday.

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April 13, 2023 2:21 pm

Q: What is your prediction for who wins this series and how many games?

The Dubs are old. They lost a game in early December in SLC for some reason or another I still can’t quite figure out. Their starting 5 actually played in that game. They lost a month ago in LA in mid March to the Clippers when Steph Curry dropped 50……by double digits. (The final score was actually +8 Clippers but it wasn’t that close because the last several minutes were garbage time.) When has that ever happened before? They lost in Denver in early April without Jokic playing….and starting their 2nd most used lineup (DiVicenzo instead of Wiggins).

This is not that championship team. Part of their run last season was fueled by luck. They caught the Nuggets without Porter or Murray. They caught the Grizzlies in a series where Morant went down during the middle of it. (That was the only series they didn’t have homecourt either.) They caught Dallas whom they had more in their bag than the Mavs did. Plus I also think the Mavs ran out of gas after a game 7 series against Phoenix. They caught the Celtics in the Fianls where Tatum has blathered on ad nauseum about how he wasn’t the same in the Finals due to running out of gas. This isn’t all the Warriors fault mind you, they can only play who is there. They won their title fair and square. (Rhyming huzzah!)

But winning a title fair and square does not make you impenetrable. This Dubs team is very, very vulernable. They really are going to have to pick their poison here. The Kings are better in the halfcourt than they are, they are also every bit as good in transition. Can the Dubs keep both Looney and Green on the court? Logic says yes, but I don’t think that’s the case. In the 2nd game in SF on Nov 7th, Looney played 20 minutes while Green played 36. In the 3rd matchup in Sac, Looney played 29 minutes and Green played 34. In both cases, Looney picked up 4 fouls. Looney averages 24 MPG during the regular season but that number goes down to 20 in the postseason historically. Looney and Green aren’t the biggest guys, but there’s no way in hell Steve Kerr really wants Green chasing Barnes out on the perimeter with only Looney to defend the backline. How effective Sabonis is inside could easily determine how long this series goes. It’s certainly a key factor to whether or not the Kings can win this series quickly or whether it goes the distance.

Oh, and then there’s also this little fact: The Warriors were the 3 seed a year ago. They actually won 53 games. The Dubs were a top defensive team year ago, it’s their offense that mainly suffered without Curry and why they had a middling ORtg. This year, they really havent been great on either side of the ball. Certainly injury and misfortune has contributed to that. But I don’t really think they are great on the defensive end, and that was part of the reason they traded for Gary Payton II.

I think the series X-Factors (for the Kings) are Monk’s ability to score and playmake at the level he’s capable of, Murray to be able to take advantage of the mismatches he’ll see on the offensive end, and Sabonis’ ability to score inside. If all of those things happen, I can see a sweep. The Kings can run, and I don’t really think all of the Dubs can in the way the Kings do so. This is not the Milwaukee Bucks after all we’re talking about when healthy.

The Warriors are going to rely on their mystique (that I happen to believe is actually gone), their reputation, and the refs to win them games. The Kings are going to have to weather the Dray day hissy fits that he’ll mostly get away with, and perhaps the occasional press especially when GPII is in the game. Will this be an offensive series? Probably. I think Kerr will have to make more difficult choices than Brown because whomever Brown puts on the floor will have an offensive tilt (outside of Davion Mitchell). That’s not the case with Kerr as the Warriors have been better defensively than offensively when they are their best. Which is the problem for the Warriors. To improve defensively, they’ll have to take other guys off the floor. You can only still play 5 guys at a time, unless I’m mistaken.

I’m going to say Kings in 6…..but my heart really wants to say Kings in 5. I just don’t think the Warriors have enough oomph as we’re accustomed to seeing. Every dynasty has an end at some point, and there’s a reason I wanted the Kings to get the Warriors in the 1st round. It has nothing to do with Brown, Barnes, Ranadive or any prior connection: I think it’s a great matchup that’s going to allow the Kings to focus on what they do best, lock in for 48 minutes (it’s fucking go time gentleman!), and figure out the combinations they can take advantage of. It’s hard to see what the Dubs can do to match up effectively on both ends that will create separation for them. The Golden State Warriors have the legacy and the rings to go along with it…..and the Sacramento Kings are the better basketball team. This is not 2018. Legacies and rings do not play basketball. Humans do. And those humans in the GSW unis are old, with lots of basketball mileage, not to mention the accompanying success (which is why so many are wont to not bet against them again), been fractured all season due to injury and personal misfortune….and it all adds up and comes crashing down at some point. I think that point is this series.

Kings in 6.

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April 13, 2023 2:27 pm
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Quite a lengthy post, they should have included you in the Roundtable Panel instead of Rob who clearly mailed it in lol.

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April 13, 2023 2:43 pm
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April 13, 2023 3:53 pm
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I will have it be known I didn’t claim that! I have no issue with brevity whatsoever!

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April 13, 2023 5:10 pm
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When polled, 97.3% of respondents on what they wanted to see in my writing: More brevity!

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April 13, 2023 5:17 pm
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I was in meetings at corporate office this week and someone made a comment about my long detailed emails… I said y’all better be careful or I will hire a guy named Pookeyguru to start writing my emails. None of them knew who you were but it made me laugh!

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April 13, 2023 7:02 pm
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Or, they might’ve known but don’t want you to know they are TKH commenters, spending their working hours on this site!

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April 13, 2023 7:28 pm
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I can’t speak for W2W…but I can claim with absolute certainty I don’t want to know!

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April 13, 2023 9:22 pm
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Great point!

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April 13, 2023 3:50 pm
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This is why I like you: lots of useful words and a rah-rah Kings slant.
Your insights are on target. Let’s see how it plays out. I absolutely hate the duds so this piece warms my heart. How are the duds going to match up? First little stephie cannot guard Fox- so who will he guard? Keegan perhaps which allows KM to hit threes when stephie gets distracted which is often. His defense is mostly pretend with a bit of flail. And hopefully Keegan can take him to the hole. The duds are hoping that Keegan will shy away.
They have to put Looney-tunes on Sabonis- so who does day-day guard? HB on the perimeter. If he leaves that assignment- a 3 be coming. Duds match up better with their bench.
They have 2 guys who do not score and will depend on 3 to score but one of the three has not played in a while.
DDV and poodle are very inconsistent.
I do see a lot of Davion and Edwards. Choke off the head of their lizard.
A key- as soon as the Kings get 4 fouls in a quarter, the duds offense changes to jump, flail, act like I have been tasered. This is foul searching, not basketball.

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April 13, 2023 6:02 pm
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Greg: Kings in 6. If you took this matchup on paper and it was any team not named The Sacramento Kings, the Kings would be favored despite the past experience of the Warriors. I am ready to believe in this team.

It’s funny but I typed my thoughts out before reading the TKH staff predictions. But I agree with Greg: Most of this analysis is based on previous seasons, not this one.

You make alot of points I either made, hinted at, or agree with as well Murray. And I think that’s the interesting part. Objectively, the Kings would be favored if it weren’t for history. You can see it, as can I, and others, that the Kings are going to have a great opportunity here.

There’s a reason that I wanted the Dubs as my first choice, and it wasn’t for attention. The playoffs are about matchups and I think many of the matchups favor Sac. That’s why I’m excited. The other stuff is just that. As much as I don’t care for the Dubs or their snobby fans, I just like the matchup. That’s really what it takes to advance. And Id love to see this team advance a round or two.

Arash
April 14, 2023 9:09 am
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Its really funny reading both sides of the fan conversation around this series.

On the one hand, we have the Warriors who are just happy to have the Kings in the playoffs. Its the joy of seeing a fellow long term shitty team finally rising to prominence, but i can understand how it could be seen as snobbiness akin to a big brother being happy for a little brother.

On the other hand, we have the Kings seeing the Warriors fans as being snobby elitists.

Also, there is the whole convo about matchups . . . both teams fans seem to think the matchups favor them.

Just to provide a Warriors fan perspective, we consider this an excellent matchup for us for a variety of reasons.

Firstly, y’all don’t have anyone who can guard Steph/Klay/Poole in your roster beyond Davion Mitchell (and potentially Harrison Barnes). Though Wiggins has cooked him in the past, Harrison Barnes is a very nice defender and it will be a solid duel .

On the other hand, for Fox we have fantastic perimeter defenders like Gary Payton/Wiggins and good perimeter defenders like Donte/Kuminga. Regarding Sabonis, we can throw Draymond Green (one of the greatest defenders of all time) and Kevon Looney (an excellent defender in his own right). Sabonis will still eat, but its a great matchup for the Warriors because the Kings don’t have another good big to cause problems allowing for Dray/Looney to split time on Sabonis. Its a good matchup, because as good as Sabonis is, he’s only one guy and we have two great defenders we can throw at him.

Its also a great matchup because of the lack of postseason experience. I’m sorry, but the post season is just a completely different animal and the Kings have no experience in it. Thats not to say they can’t overcome it, every great team had to start somewhere, but the fact remains they must overcome an experience disadvantage. I can’t tell you how many times the Warriors just out-executed teams down the stretch of games where the other team had just outplayed us for most of the minutes.

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April 14, 2023 12:40 pm
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On the other hand, we have the Kings seeing the Warriors fans as being snobby elitists.

I’ve had this perception for 15 years. It’s not a new idea, and every interaction I have with many Dubs fans (not all) has reinforced that. Now, some of that has to do with bandwagoners and the FTG (that’s Fuck the Giants in case you don’t know) winning 3 WS rings in 5 seasons part of it, too. It’s been a championship kind of decade in the Bay. I get that.

On the one hand, we have the Warriors who are just happy to have the Kings in the playoffs. 

I’m thrilled seeing the Warriors so I see it as being the other way around. I think the Kings got a great shot at making the WCF even though it will likely include beating the Lakers (another team I have no fear whatsoever over).

Also, there is the whole convo about matchups . . . both teams fans seem to think the matchups favor them.

This is very true. Other than Steph going nuclear which we’ve already seen once this year, I’m not sure that’s actually true in the Dubs case. Plus, the regular season has only so much value when 3 of the matchup’s happened before the middle of November. The very first one in SF happened on a rest disadvantage SEGABABA (granted it was game 3) for Sac. What’s there to really take from those matchup’s other than the same players are going to be playing?

Firstly, y’all don’t have anyone who can guard Steph/Klay/Poole in your roster beyond Davion Mitchell (and potentially Harrison Barnes)

Klay scares no-one at this point. Multiple Achilles and ACL injuries will do that, and this is no longer 2018. Steph is Steph and I’ve acknowledged that. I’m looking forward to Davion putting the Poole Party in jail, and I think it’ll happen multiple times. The issue is whether or not MIke Brown can accept the offensive issues with Davion and I’m not sure about that one at this point. Every game, every series has it’s own unique deal going on.

On the other hand, for Fox we have fantastic perimeter defenders like Gary Payton/Wiggins and good perimeter defenders like Donte/Kuminga.

Yep, GP2 is very good, but he won’t bother Fox much. Wiggins is the guy who really will get as much time as he can handle on Fox, and well, who knows how much time he’ll get since he’s not even starting right now. DiVicenzo and Kuminga? I’ll take that matchup ALL DAY if they are sticking Fox. I’ll bet it takes Steve Kerr 4 possessions on either guy before he calls time and switches defenders (GP2 or Wiggins). That’s called stealing possessions and neither DDV or JK are good enough to do that for the Dubs. Kuminga is far more likely, in particular, to check Murray or Barnes and have an impact there. That’s going to be important, too.

Sabonis will still eat, but its a great matchup for the Warriors because the Kings don’t have another good big to cause problems allowing for Dray/Looney to split time on Sabonis. 

See it’s a huge win if they can get into the bench and play small. Any matchup that dicates taking Looney off the floor is a win for the Kings. The Kings are better small, but so are the Dubs. The Dubs might want to slow it down, but the Kings are the better halfcourt offensive team. The Dubs are banking on that they are the better defensive unit and the Kings have largely feasted on weaker opponents (not really true but whatever floats your boat) to build up their high powered offense.

The problem is the Dubs don’t really attack the paint well and that’s where Sabonis really hurts this team most. His shot creation issues are there, but less so against Looney and Green. It’s a matter of him finding a comfort and a rhythm on the block to get a clean look (which he doesn’t always get against bigger/longer guys).

 I’m sorry, but the post season is just a completely different animal and the Kings have no experience in it.

This group has never played in the postseason together, true, but neither had the Warriors in 2013. That’s really the crux of the issues here. How much does experience help? Some, it can’t hurt. Barnes, Sabonis, Huerter all have been in the playoffs with other teams. This won’t be new to them. Fox and Monk have never been there before as pro’s, but I highly doubt the lights or attention will change them whatsoever. They rather like the lights and so forth. Murray is likely to be the most effected of all Kings players for the obvious reason: He’s a rookie.

I can’t tell you how many times the Warriors just out-executed teams down the stretch of games where the other team had just outplayed us for most of the minutes.

This I think they are well aware of. They know they have to beat the Dubs for 48 minutes otherwise they probably aren’t going to win the series. Hopefully that’s how they approach it.

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April 14, 2023 8:50 am
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I don’t know why this perception that Curry is a defensive liability still exists, it hasn’t been true for quite a while. Sure, teams targeted him in the playoffs but thats only because he was surrounded by Klay/Iguadala/Kevin Durant (during his years where he was flirting with DPOY consideration)/Draymond Green.

Who else were they supposed to attack . . . and statistically they did poorly when attacking him (in part because of scheme which allowed for Steph to funnel them toward help, but also because he’s actually a solid defender.

Now the real question is, can the Kings punish the Warriors for putting out Jordan Poole who actually is a terrible defender. If they can do that, forcing Poole out of the rotation, that is a massive blow against the Warriors offense which can tilt things in the Kings favor.

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April 13, 2023 4:30 pm
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So I completely agree with you on matchups, players etc and I believe the Kings can win if they win Game 1 otherwise they lose in 7. I realized I wasn’t clear up above and need to state that.

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April 13, 2023 7:29 pm
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I don’t know if I would go so far to say that losing game 1 is the series….but anything is possible. It would not be the ideal way to start the postseason that’s for sure.

Arash
April 14, 2023 8:34 am
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The references to injury luck in the playoffs last year are fair, though it should be noted that we had a 53-29 record and a +5.4 margin of victory throughout the regular season which should be indicative that it was a VERY good team throughout the year. Sure, we had injury luck but that doesn’t change the fact that the Warriors were a fantastic team (according to the stats at least) and were pretty damn impenetrable (at least if their performance in the regular season was any indication). If you’re gonna say that the playoffs is a different beast to the regular season, thats fine, but then we’ll have to throw out everything the Kings did this regular season as well in our attempt to determine post season success.  

Regarding Looney, I’m not certain its wise to utilize past playoff minutes to determine Looney’s usage this year. Just by virtue of our complete lack of effective centers this yer, Looney will get far more minutes in the playoffs moving forward. Thats not even mentioning the fact that Looney has been an absolute revelation this year taking his already existing skillset of being an excellent defender/solid passer and adding to it being one of the best offensive rebounders in the NBA. He will absolutely get more minutes in the playoffs than in the past. 

As for the Warriors defense, this has been a great subject of discussion among Warrior fans and honestly . . . I think y’all are in for a surprise on that end. To provide context, our poor defense throughout the year has been due to a variety of factors that have been mostly resolved by now. You have Klay coming in completely out of shape due to mental health issues resulting in him being terrible at defense for nearly half the year but by now rounding into a good defender (nowhere near his peak of course, that was stolen from him by his injury). Then you have two of our best perimeter defenders in the NBA in Wiggins/Payton being not on the team for most of the year but now they are back. Then you have the rise of Kuminga, who has improved dramatically this year with his offball defense (where he was mind-numbingly horrible at in the start) and become more disciplined on ball becoming an absolute menace at the POA. Compared to last year, when everyone is on the floor, we are honestly a better defensive team from top to bottom (with the exception of Otto over Lamb, Donte is better defensively than Damion and Kuminga is better than Bjelica). Thats not to say that we are necessarily a better team overall (Otto/Bjelica were perfect fits offensively as well), but defense won’t be a problem. To put some context, post the ASB the Warriors have had the 6th best offense and the 7th best defense. With Wiggins/Paytons return we should be far better than that. 

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April 14, 2023 8:35 am
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Oh and I agree heartily regarding your series X factor being Monk, he’s always been absolute dynamite against the Warriors (averaging 19 mpg over the last four games). What I don’t agree with is that Murray (or to go further, Huerter), will be much of a factor. The Warriors have always been extremely effective at limiting the impact of off ball shooters like Murray/Huerter in the playoffs (just off the top of my head look at how they dramatically limited Bane/JR Smith/Korver/Bullock/Grant Williams). IMHO, Malik Monk and Harrison Barnes will be the main X Factors for the Kings. 

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April 13, 2023 3:38 pm

I want the Kings in 6 and the LTB chant from the few Kings fans to drown out the shuffling of exiting feet.

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April 13, 2023 5:17 pm

The X-Factor is probably Huerter or Keegan. I doubt that Edwards will be out of the playoff rotation. His defense is too important.

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April 14, 2023 9:14 am
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Could you give me a breakdown of Keegan’s offensive style? From what I’ve seen, he’s a more catch/shoot off movement type of player who can sometimes attack the hole off the catch using the threat of his shooting. However, young players develop over the course of the season, so I would love if you can give me a breakdown?

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