The Sacramento Kings got lucky on Tuesday night, jumping from the 7th spot in the NBA Draft up to 4th. The Orlando Magic won the 1st overall pick, followed by the Oklahoma City Thunder and Houston Rockets.
The Kings had a 32% chance of jumping into the Top 4 coming in, with the most odds of falling back to 8th. When Mark Tatum announced the Trail Blazers as having the 7th pick, the Kings had officially jumped. Domantas Sabonis was pretty happy about it.
The smile on Sabonis’ face when the Kings moved up in the draft lottery 😄 pic.twitter.com/Trwcosi4dr
— Kings on NBCS (@NBCSKings) May 18, 2022
It seems only fitting that the Kings are picking 4th in what many draft pundits are calling a three man draft between Jabari Smith Jr, Chet Holmgren and Paolo Banchero, but moving up was still a big help and there will be plenty of interesting options. Who knows, one of those three guys might even drop. We’ve seen teams do crazier things before.
The NBA Draft will be held on June 23rd. Stay tuned for our draft coverage and prospect breakdowns.
Sweet! Work your magic Monte!
Thank you Sabonis!
Give him a bonus!
Stop that rhyming and I mean it!
Anybody want a peanut?
Happy that at least we jumped.
Good job by Sabonis.
Since the 2018 draft, this is our…second jump.
I believe we jump in 2017 as well.. From 7th or 8th to the 3rd pick. Then Philly had the pick swap and we ended up at the 5th
YOU ARE A MONSTER
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It’s the Gonzo way.
Sign that man to super max now!
Hey, why not.
we need to keep the talents of this team.
This is prettay, prettay, prettay good!
So if the Kings keep (and the big three don’t fall) who you got? Ivey, Murray, Griffin or other? If they trade it, who do you want and think they can get (paired with an asset like Barnes/Holmes or without?)
ESPN had Sharpe mocked to us. Kentucky player, so you know Vivek is interested.
Fuck Vivek, that’s Monte’s job.
It’s Monte’s job to F— Vivek? Is that the full monte?
Kinky Monte…
Lord, is that a disgusting thought.
Not really a Kentucky player though. He didn’t play one game.
That doesn’t matter to Vivek. Any Kentucky connection piques his interest.
He also likes random players from Greece and India.
Saboner keeping Kings’ fans stiff even in the off-season!!!
I think we trade it, right? This might’ve been the best case for Monte and co. I think there will be some teams that are fans of Jaden Ivey and might give up something substantial. Let’s hope Washington or Utah want to start some rebuilds 🙏
I don’t know about trading it. We need game-changing talent. If we could trade down, get some other asset, & still land Keegan Murray? Sure, do it. I think we’ll sit tight & take best available. McNair seems to have a steady hand.
Keegan isn’t falling much past 4. He may be the best pick at 4.
Yeah, I certainly wouldn’t feel comfortable counting on it.
I definitely can see the Kings taking Keegan Murray giving Troy Weaver the dream scenario of Shaedon Sharpe or Jaden Ivey to choose from.
I am all in the Keegan Murray.. he will be like the power forward version of Halliburton.. but more impactful.
I like Keegan Murray also. If he’s not available at 4, then Banchero, Smith or Holmgren will be. That’s the nice thing about picking 4. Last year the Raptors got “stuck” with Scottie Barnes.
If you want Murray than take him at 4. No guarantee he slips past 5 .
A trade centered around Fox and Donovan and the pick
For who?
Is it crazy to think that Utah or Washington would want to part ways with either Beal or Mitchell for a package centered around Fox and the four pick?
They seem they MIGHT want to start a rebuild. Could be a good start for them.
Donovan maybe, Beal is too old. I’d want Utah’s 1st, too. Maybe Jordan Clarkson instead of the pick.
No clue. Hard to guage Donovan’s value.
I suggested Fox and the pick for Mitchell last month. I think its realistic. I think it depends on what Ainge can get for Gobert. If it is slim pickings, then Fox and Ivey/Murray seems like a good get for Mitchell, who I think is a bit overrated.
Meh. Meh. Meh.
Fox and a second maybe but not 4 . Mitchell more valuable but not as much as Fox and Murray .
Why the hell are we giving up Fox and a pick for Mitchell? Other than a better shot, Mitchell has all the weaknesses of Fox and hasn’t proven he can be a 1A player. It is like trading water for sparkling water if even that.
Ehhhh, we don’t have to malign Mitchell here. He’s produced at a much higher level than Fox and has had much more team success. I can understand not wanting to trade Fox and #4 for him, but there’s a pretty big gulf between the two at the moment.
So you want to trade #4 for a 28 year old Bradley Beal?
Wow. It’s going to take more than a #4. The trade actually makes the team worse, You trade Fox and the #4 for Beal? Are you serious? Am i missing something?
I think they’ll trade it if none of the big 3 fall (Smith, Holmgren, or Banchero). I can’t see them drafting Ivey or Sharpe. I could see them trading down and/or packaging it for a solid wing. Or even trying to trade up for one of the Big 3 in this draft.
Keegan Murray is a solid wing.
Keegan Murray has the chance to be a solid wing. Let’s not start pretending draftees are sure things. A big mistake bad teams often make is slotting rookies directly into key roles. Even if they plan to draft Murray, they should be looking to add another wing or two that could potentially start in front of him. At least in the short run.
Trade the 4 and Justin Holiday to DET for Bey & the 5
To add context, I think DET thought they would be choosing in the top 3 and are now outside looking in. Holiday and Bey have similar salaries.
Ivey is an excellent fit next to Cade and gives them the player they though Hayes might turn into. Losing Bey would painful, but Ivey>Bey. Kings would get Bey and Murray in the end.
Eh, I doubt they’d give up Bey to move one spot. Everybody fits well next to Cade. Ivey isn’t special in the way and really doesn’t have much in common with even the original vision of Hayes. Of course, I’m also not sure Ivey is a better prospect than Bey at this point. That’s assuming a lot of development on Ivey’s part.
Alright McNair. No pressure
Always remember to draft the better player with better fit.
From nbadraft.net:
You never know but I don’t see Chet falling out of the top 2.
Noel fell to 6th (Although he was with injury)
Someone jumps and someone falls every years.
(e.g. Jalen Brown at 3rd, Bennett at 1st)
There are lots of time for any of these players to get hurt before the draft…like tweak their back while sneezing
Am I the only one who suspects that Holmgren will never be an NBA player? The only great big man who was nearly that thin was Bill Russell, but he was already a great all-around athlete (world class high jumper, good time in 440), and that was nearly 70 years ago (also 2 inches shorter and fifteen pounds heavier). If he gets bigger, he might be like Yao Ming—joints can’t take the pounding.
I’m right there with you. I really hope Chet is gone before the Kings pick.
Watch McNair flip the #4 pick for Hali… lol
Would you do it?
I might. I see it as Kings traded 2022 FRP + get rid of Buddy’s contract for Sabonis + Holida at the deadline.
Good thing Portland out tanked us down the stretch.
This must make the NBA very happy to see teams like PDX and IND try SO hard to lose games at the end and not get rewarded for it.
It certainly makes me happy.
I’m leaning towards Sharpe or Ivey right now. Will have to see how their respective workouts go. Also, there’s a possibility one of Smith, Holmgren and Banchero slips to 4. Highly unlikely but still a possibility.
What about Murray? Best fit next to Sabonis.
The Kings should still be things almost entirely of the BPA. While fit with Sabonis could be a tie-breaker, it shouldn’t be a major factor.
Of course, I said shouldn’t. Not won’t.
Murray is BPA at four IMHO unless someone pulls a Vivek decides to draft AJ Griffin in top 3..
Lol that GM would probably get fired immediately.
Or an extension like Vlade got after drafting Bagley.
Monte has one year left on his deal with a mandate to get to the playoffs. Fit with the current roster and a player’s ability to step into a role right away will be a consideration.
Correct- and should be .
I liked Murray if we stayed at 7. As of now it’s Sharpe and Ivey for me but leaning more towards Sharpe. Of course once the draft combine, workouts and interviews starts, things might change.
Murray is still a good pick. And, though he wouldn’t be my pick if the top 3 are off the board, I think he’s likely to be Monte’s pick. And it will be a good one. The rationale for Murray at that slot for the Kings is rock solid.
So there’s a pretty clear top three. But the Kings get the best of the rest. I like Sharpe or Murray.
If one of the big 3 don’t drop I wouldn’t be surprised to see Keegan Murray be the pick, seems like a Monte guy
Bottom line is there is the potential of landing a franchise player at 4. The pick is very valuable and I think Monte is going to get a crap ton of trade offers. The draft is going to be fun af.
There’s a clear top 3, but like last year when Suggs dropped below Barnes, potential for one of those top 3 to be there for the the Kings.
Thank you Lady Luck Anjali Ranadive
Now let’s fire her!
Not before signing herself to $100m deal Stockton Kings PG
Can she play the 4?
Immediate reaction is the Kings should draft Murray. If Smith or Chet fall by some miracle, pick them. Otherwise, Murray is the safe pick who fits the needs of the team. Ivey doesn’t fit, and Sharpe exists only in our minds.
We have an incredibly important asset here, and we can either look back a couple years from now and hate ourselves for spoiling it on one of these high-upside guys that busts, or we could just take the very good player with the high floor that makes sense with the roster and can contribute right away on a team that’s trying to win now.
I could be quite happy with Murray. Long shooter who fills a need at the 4. I just got a feeling that Sharpe is going to be something special.
You know what you are getting with Murray. Not so with Sharpe.
Yup. He’s a two year college player that led his team to the tournament. He’s got the receipts. Sharpe is a great unknown that would take a ballsy GM to select him. I don’t think Monte is willing to make that bet.
Agreed.
The Kings want to win now, but I’m more concerned about the long-term than the short term. Take Murray if he’s the BPA, but don’t draft him just b/c he’s the best fit.
The team is in full “win-now” mode so I can see this pick turning into Jeremi Grant or John Collins. Something like #4 and Holmes + filler for #5 and Grant. Kings would get Grant and draft Keegan. Or, #4 and Holmes + filler for Collins and #16.
Or draft Ivey and trade Fox for a power forward. If they get someone who plays defense, they’ve upgraded the defense with two players and rid the team of one of it’s worst. Ivey is better than he is being given credit for.
Ivey is commonly being ranked 4th or higher. You think that’s not enough credit?
Thank you for winning those couple of extra games, Davion & Damian.
Seeing Portland fall back to 7 also made my night, such justice.
All of us were all mad that we complained about winning those meaningless game.
and even we got a worse record by losing more game, the outcome would very probably be the same (17.5% of bottom 4 teams get the 1st pick), in which we may still end up with the 4th pick.
I’m not greedy. We got #4. Considering the odds I’ll take this any day. Gives Monty some great possibilities.
All of us?
I certainly didn’t care. I never do.
Full transparency: I was mad, so that means “all of us” were mad.
I wasn’t mad at all. I think Davion and DJones got some good run that should help their careers.
It is a lottery and proves it yearly .
My instant butt-pulled takeaway, select Murray and don’t think twice about it. He fills a major need as a stretch 4 who can also protect the rim along side Sabonis, AND is also arguably the BPA at #4. Need and talent.
Before folks think what the Kings can trade the #4 and pieces away for a player like John Collins, I’m saying the Murray can be our John Collins. Why trade away a player like Barnes and the pick for Collins for a player that projects to be him and will cost the Kings far less.
From all that, I don’t think you can get more in trade for the #4 unless you attach Fox, but that’s a different rabbit hole to go down for another day.
Time and workouts will tell, maybe Ivey, Sharpe or whoever wows everyone and is deserving of the pick, but until then I’m happy to captain the Murray train. Who’s aboard?
Adding…
https://twitter.com/CarmichaelDave/status/1526722319766261760
Regarding Murray:
He led the Big Ten in total points (822), points per game (23.5), field goals (307), field goal attempts (554), win shares (8.7), plus/minus (15.7), and offensive rating (134.6). He was second in total rebounds (303), third in rebounds per game (8.7), true shooting percentage (64%), and block percentage (6.4); fifth in steals (45).
I could see Paolo dropping to 4, and I would be at least a little intrigued. I do like Murray, though.
I think Paolo might be the superior talent, but I also think he is the worst fit of any prospect in the top 10. He doesn’t have the shooting or rim protection that the Kings desperately need. He’s kind of an old school PF that can score from anywhere within 15 feet of the rim and will demand a double team…but that is sort of like Sabonis. An aside, he reminds me of a young Blake Griffin, which isn’t a bad thing, but not what the Kings need.
If he falls to #4 there is a reason for it and the Kings should cash out and trade the pick to someone who really really wants Paolo.
I don’t think you worry about fit at that point. And I don’t think his fit is THAT bad. He has a good shot and, IMO, his 3pt percentage will jump when he isn’t creating them all himself. His skillset is much more perimeter oriented than Sabonis’s. I think he’ll definitely provide spacing. You’re right about rim-protection though. But I think that’s a point where you’re passing up too much talent to worry about a perfect fit.
Maybe, but I guess I just don’t have Paolo as that much a BPA than Murray, Sharpe, and Ivey. For me, the gap isn’t wide enough to take him. Fit plays a part.
In that situation however, I’d have to wonder why he fell to #4 if he was BPA at #3
Because someone had a different opinion? Why did Haliburton fall to 12 when he was BPA for at least 6-8 picks before that?
In general, the different between catching the falling knife and getting the steal of the draft is almost purely hindsite. If you have a guy rated highly and he falls, you should trust your assessment.
Very true. I had Hali at #2 and he fell to #12 and I never once thought he was the falling knife, because as you say…trust your assessment.
As of today, I think it’s a toss up for BPA at #3. Paolo had an amazing tournament that has definitely helped his stock, but I still see it as a 2 player draft. Let’s hope Paolo, Murray, Ivey and Sharpe all come in for workouts, but I doubt Chet and Smith do.
The big difference with Murray from those other guys, (and again, I like Murray and think he would be a fine pick) is that he’s the one that hasn’t shown any real ability to create for himself or others.
Agreed. He’s not that guy. Ivey would be the better choice if that’s what the Kings are looking for.
I guess I just feel he’s the guy that makes the Kings all that much better because he doesn’t need to create for himself or others. He has Fox and Sabonis for that. You draft him to be a 3-D PF that gives the Kings what Fox and Sabonis cannot. He’s your John Collins, but with better rim protection, on a rookie deal.
I’ll admit, he’s not a star, but he’s 12 year vet type player that helps good teams win championships. Like what I posted above, that Al Horford kind of guy.
Agreed, I like Ivey as well. Looks like a potential star and has that motor that Fox lacks.
I’d take Ivey if the Kings weren’t on win-now mode.
I think Ivey is going to struggle for at least a couple of years. He isn’t a good enough passer to justify putting the ball in his hands a ton, and he doesn’t have much offense unless he’s getting to the rim. I think his shot is also going to take mechanical adjustments.
35.8% from 3 point range is not bad at all. He can shoot just fine. He can play the 2 and also shoots and plays defense better than Fox.
After watching a lot of Ivey’s game the past couple years, I think that percentage is misleading. His 3s are almost entirely open set shots. His mechanics from 3 are going to be an issue in the NBA, and he’s a poor shooter off the pull-up. He basically has zero offense between set shot 3s and the rim. He’s not going to be somebody you want to put the ball in the hands of a lot.
Exactly. Also if Fox were traded, they would no longer have to look for players who “fit” with him or cover his deficiencies. Ivey compares more to a Morant type player.
Ivey doesn’t have anything approaching Morant’s passing ability. And such that’s a HUGE part of who Morant is, I think Morant is not at all a good comp. Morant even as a college player, also had a more versatile offensive game.
Honestly, what stands out about Ivey beyond his athleticism?
Except a major part of what makes Al Horford Al Horford is his passing ability and BBIQ. And those guys only help teams win championships when they’re playing next to multiple stars.
Al Horford is also sneaky athletic. I don’t see that athletic pop from Murray.
Horford was a very good athlete when he entered the league. That’s definitely not where he makes his money now though. He also isn’t expected to check wings the way Murray will be. Horford is much more of a 4/5, whereas Murray is a 3/4.
I’d say Murray is a good athlete. When compared to wings, he doesn’t quite have the lateral quickness you would like, but I don’t think his athleticism will be an issue.
“Falling” to 4 is not exactly a falling knife situation. Orl, OKC & Hou could have interest in him, JSJ, Chet, Sharpe & Ivey, and maybe Murray or even Griffin shows out.
If Paolo’s available at #4, he’s easily the BPA IMO. I think Paolo or Jabari is the BPA in the entire draft.
Good reasoning. Draft who you think will be the better nba player. Only player in the projected top 6 who raises serious questions about fit is Jaden Ivey.
And even he doesn’t raise THAT much concern IMO. I’m personally not that high on him, but if you are, I don’t see any reason the current roster would dissuade you.
Not particularly. Honestly I have Daniels ranked over Ivey, and I would consider Daniels, at least bring him in for a workout. One guy I’d like to know more about is Sharpe. But how?
Kings have the 4th pick and his agent would make certain he works out for Kings since no draft has him as high as 4 .
hope the same is true for Sharpe because his upside is tantalizing.
Getting Banchero is like having a better Fox. If he’s available then get him and then trade Fox to a team who fits his skillsets (Washington maybe?). Just my take.
Um, Paolo’s most similar to Sabonis, not Fox.
I’m starting to suspect Chet may be there at 4 through a combination of lottery luck and concern over his frame. It’s possible someone over thinks it and takes Ivey, Sharpe or Murray and we end up with the steal of the century.
If Chet falls to #4 I think he comes closer to Thomas Robinson than the steal of the century.
Chet has more talent in his weirdly long pinkies than TRob ever did
Yeah, I feel like this is an odd take. They couldn’t be more different.
I’m not comparing them as players, I’m comparing them as possible falling knives. I could say the same thing about McLemore.
I don’t think Chet falls to #4. He’s just too good, but if for some reason the teams that had him in for workouts pass and he falls to the Kings…I’d hope Monte had done his homework.
Like I said elsewhere, the difference between a falling knife and a draft night steal is only clear in hindsight.
In reality, most of what we consider steals or reaches are really probably just examples of the press being out of step with FOs. We have to remember, most of these lists are made by people with some connections, but they aren’t actually in the room and are absolutely tools used by FOs.
Very true.
It’s not an odd take at all. Let’s see what happens at the combines. Chet played very poorly against upper end talent and I have real concerns about him transitioning to the NBA game. I watched all of Gonzaga’s games and many of the OKC games, I don’t think Holmgren is better than Pokusevski and he’s had his struggles.
Agree, in that Chet is the most likely to slide . The more he is studied the more flaws you see.
I think the main concern is whoever drafts Chet will need to play him specifically at the 3 point line/weakside blocker. That’s the only way teams can position him coming into this league. Anything else risks him getting injured and becoming another player with great potential, whose career was derailed by a bunch of injuries.
You’re not talking about things outside of his skillset, tho.
I think Chet would be an excellent fit next to Sabonis, actually. And Sabonis would be a great guy for Chet to mentor from.
Why would you play him any other way. That’s the optimal role for him anyway. On the Kings, you would want Sabonis bodying up the opponent’s C and Chet defending the PF. The same way both JJJ and Mobley are employee in these early stages of their careers.
Chet actually knows how to play basketball.
I would pick Murray over Paolo.
I’m on board that train! Although I think you could introduce the topic better than the first five words of your comment.
But I know about as much as Rob, which is nothing.
yeah, I’m just saying I would not question the pick if it’s Murray. I don’t even have the top five players ranked yet.
I have been saying Murray is my pick for a while and I was upset when he started moving the boards because I figured we had no shot if we were outside of 5.
Kings move up and IN moves back?! Perfect!! Hahahahaha!
I think this was my mother’s doing. It’s her 73rd birthday today. The only number the Kings could get between 7 and 3 was 4. Thanks mom!
Thanks Louie’s Mom and Happy Birthday!
Happy birthday to your mom!
Jabari Smith fingers crossed
I haven’t seen it discussed yet, but what if we pulled a move that bit us once by not doing it and trade next year’s first with similar protections to move up and grab Chet (or whoever Monte deems best)? The trade for Luka was protected like this for that second pick:
Protections on the 2019 first-round pick Atlanta will receive from Dallas in the Luka Doncic deal, per league sources: 1-to-5 protected in 2019; 1-to-5 in 2020; 1-to-3 in 2021; 1-to-3 in 2022; fully unprotected in 2023.
I mean, I feel like 5 years out protected to get the one you really want? I think OKC jumps at that for sure, and the Magic might even do it. If this really is a 3 player Draft and Monte sees that, he’s shown he’s willing to go with a bold move, and this seems like the way to do a second one.
You’d have to really really really want one of those top prospects. IMO, the guys in this draft don’t have that kind of appeal. I personally don’t feel those guys have that kind of separation from the guys projected from 4-6. Time will tell.
Also that protected pick from Dallas didn’t have those strict protections. It was only lottery protected. The pick conveyed the next season when the Hawks selected Cam Reddish at #10
I mean… those are the protections straight out of the Marc Stein tweet related to the trade. Lottery protected would be — I think — more strict? So them picking at 10 with less restrictions would be… better? Right? And — hey, if someone would to lottery protected first two move up 2 or 3 slots and grab one of these guys, I’m DEFINITELY in on that.
Wow.
**if someone would do #4 and a lottery protected first to move up 2 or 3 slots and grab one of these guys, I’m DEFINITELY in on that if Monte makes the move.
I agree with Adam. I am just not feeling this year’s top picks. Are they actually game changing players? They could be but they could also be disappointments. They all seems to have glaring weaknesses.
Pretty much just summed up every player in every draft.
I wouldn’t say they have glaring weaknesses. In fact, the top 3-5 have very few holes in their games. They have aspects that are perhaps average, so they don’t stand out (Banchero’s defense, Smith’s & Murray’s creation, etc.), but that’s true every year.
GM McNair was not extended in his contract despite just hiring the defensive minded Mike Brown, who I don’t believe is known particularly as young team development coach.
Does this mean that the always desperate Greater GM of the Sacramento Kings (not the Stockton Kings), GM Ranadive (not Assistant GM Aneel Ranadive) will push the prospective draft choice away for a win now trade? It is already known that a 16 game improvement from last year’s 30 game win total is “demanded”. How does that reflect upon this draft?
Decent chance the pick is traded.
I’m indifferent in regards to that at the moment. Given the win now directive, I have to assume Vivek wants the pick traded for immediate roster improvement
Seems to me all signs point to this. I would definitely bet on it. Welcome to Sacramento Tobias Harris.
Optimist me: Holmgren falls to No. 4 and thank you very much.
Pessimist me: Welcome to hell, TyTy Washington
TyTy is lIterally the one guy that I think you could argue is a terrible fit for the Kings.
Pretty excited about the possibility of Sharpe, Smith or Murray. Holmgren Is a no. If he falls to 4 you don’t take…. No Chet?
I agree about Holmgren. I wonder how often these people who are singing his praises have seen Holmgren play. Give them an assignment to watch 10 Holmgren games against upper end college teams and then have them watch 10 of Pokusevski’s NBA games with OKC and then critique them. As of now first round to Pokusevski.
He is of course a potential unicorn as well. Porzingis or Zion anybody?
Spencer Hawes anybody
Absolutely nothing in common with Spencer Hawes. Except, I guess they both played college ball in the state of Washington?
Yeah that’s not a fair comparison and neither is Shawn Bradley. Pokuseski is the best comparison but there’s not enough data there yet. The comparisons really don’t add much to me but I saw some glaring concerns watching Gonzaga play against better teams.
First, fourth pick, or owning the entirety of the top ten picks Monte has a real problem. Agents don’t want their clients here.
Imagine those conversations now that Vivek has put his daughter in a position to influence decisions in the draft process.
Glad they have the fourth pick but……fuck this team. Cannot get more stupid right before the draft.
Not sure How much “influence” the Stockton kings assistant GM has in the draft process??? 🤔
How surprised would you actually be to learn she is involved in all draft work and daddy listens to her ! Just sayin😂
She is in Chicago for the NBA draft combine.
I wonder what Mike Brown thinks about all this.
He should be nervous.
Between this matter and devising a defense to contain Luka, yeah.
I’m leaning towards Ivey or Murray if the top 3 prospects are gone and we keep the pick. Murray is the safer pick but Ivey looks like he has potential to become a star.
#4 pick! That’s awesome Kings nation! Super excited see the prospects show out until the draft. I really like sharpe, watched some of his YouTube videos and he is super fluid on the offensive side, very creative off the dribble. He’s who I hope Kings grab, next would be Keegan, some crazy outcome that smith jr is available at 4 I’d grab him over anybody.
My dream scenario, for some reason, is the Kings end up with Jeremy Sochan and Tari Eason.
Can’t exactly figure it, precisely, but there it is.
The #4 to the Hornets for the #13 and #15 is the only way I see that happening.
I think the giraffe posted something like Barnes and Holmes for Hayward and Washington. Include the picks as well? Maybe get a future pick for eating Hayward’s deal?
Hayward will guarantee to miss 30 plus games. That’s a terrible trade that doesn’t equate to any more w-l. Hayward is a disaster. Washington is potential. 13 and 15 the way the Kings draft is a crapshoot and not a good one.
Trade up for Chet, acquire vets #breakthestreak
Great to see teams that did not compete like Indy and Portland lose spots . I think this draft will be similar to last year with good depth and it will be hard not to get a starting quality player ( Murray, Sharpe or Ivey ) all there it seems .
So glad I went into this with NO expectations!!!
I am just hoping Monte doesn’t go into panic mode. He has no extension on the table. No time to develop a rookie. Playoff or Fired..? I hope he doesn’t trade the pick for Jerami Grant or Bradley Beal.
The story is that there’s already a dictate to have a similar jump like last year;’s Timberwolves.
The idea that a premature extension will somehow keep Monte from win-now moves seems farfetched.
If that is the dictate it won’t happen next year with just a couple of rookie draft picks. Longer term maybe. The Kings will pick Murray and hopefully get Koloko using their two second round picks. If they really have to make the playoffs next year then it scares me what they might do next. I hope they realize they are more than a year away and don’t do anything careless to expedite the process.
I agree that it won’t happen this year. My point is that premature extension or not, we are very much in win-now mode. And with win-now, I mean, reaching the play-offs.
So IMO it is very likely that Monte will either go for someone who can contribute immediately (vs someone with a higher ceiling) or trade the pick for a veteran.
I agree that’s what they will probably do not what they should do. It’s fallacy to think they can draft a player to this roster and be playoff competitive next season. They will either draft Murray or trade the pick but let’s not fool ourselves, it’s not going to happen next season and if they try to force the issue it will be a long term setback.
I agree but I wouldn’t rule out what you’re suggesting and that concerns me. The kind of trade you’re implying will make them better in the short run but will be disastrous longer term.
It sure feels like this pick (plus filler) turns into Grant or Collins…
It’s looking like Ivey vs Sharpe in all the mocks, so which will it be between those two KH? I’m slightly leaning Sharpe even though Ivey is the more common pick, I haven’t decided yet though.
Ideally one of the big 3 falls or we trade it IMO.
Hoping that it comes down to either of those two and McNair takes whoever does better in workouts. Right now leaning towards Sharpe due to size, but I’d be happy with either. I don’t think any team is trading an all star for the # 4 pick in this draft, so hopefully Monte doesn’t try to get too cute with any potential trade. Stick to Ivey or Sharpe. Murray might be a safe choice and good fit, but I don’t see that he has as much star potential as either of those two.
I must say, I am really intrigued by Sharpe.
Sharpe. There is a fluidity to his game that I like. Vlade would pick him too. He has good feet.
If anyone is curious, the the combo that got us the 4 pick is 4-7-9-10.
They drew only 5 times. Orlando, OKC, Houston, Houston, Sacramento.
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