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2023 Preseason Wrap-Up

Akis and Tony share their thoughts on the Kings preseason now that it's officially over and real games are just around the corner.
By and | 43 Comments | Oct 22, 2023

Oct 15, 2023; Sacramento, California, USA; Sacramento Kings guard Colby Jones (20) shoots a layup against Golden State Warriors forward Trayce Jackson-Davis (32) during the fourth quarter at Golden 1 Center. Mandatory Credit: Neville E. Guard-USA TODAY Sports

The preseason is over, so Akis and Tony are sharing their thoughts on the Kings with real games set to start this week.

Which of the new guys stood out the most?

Akis:  For all the hype surrounding Sasha Vezenkov, I think it was our other rookie, Colby Jones, who impressed the most.  In five preseason games, Jones averaged 9 points on 47.4% from the field and 40.9% from three along with 1.8 assists, 1.6 rebounds and 1.2 steals in just 15.5 minutes a game.  Jones was billed as a rookie who could come in and help from day one, and he certainly looked up for it on both ends of the court.  Sacramento’s backcourt rotation is fairly crowded right now, so I don’t think he’d be in the immediate rotation, but given the chance, I think he’d impress and stick around.

Tony: Colby Jones is the clear answer here for all the reasons Akis mentioned above, but in the interest of diversity I’ll mention the guy who is probably keeping Jones out of the rotation right now: Chris Duarte.

I don’t think Duarte was incredible, but he looked like an NBA player again. Unfortunately his preseason run was cut short due to a minor left knee injury, but he fit in seamlessly with the starting lineup during the one game where Mike Brown elected to play Kevin Huerter off the bench. He appeared like an upgrade over Huerter defensively, and I liked his activity on offense without the ball and in transition. I think he did just enough to put himself above guys like Sasha Vezenkov and Colby Jones in Mike Brown’s rotation, but we’ll find out in a few more days.

Did Keegan Murray and Davion Mitchell showcase enough improvement?

Akis:  Yes to both, but in particularly Keegan.  Keegan finished second on the team in scoring in preseason, and continued to showcase more aggressiveness in attacking the rim and creating his own looks rather than just being a catch and shoot guy like he was last year.  Keegan spent the summer working out with De’Aaron Fox and it looked like it paid dividends.  For Davion, I really only wanted to see if he could become a consistent three point shooter.  Five preseason games is a small sample size, but the early returns are good as he settled in at 38.5% on 5.2 attempts a game. His shot release also seems a bit quicker and more confident.  Davion’s defense is already incredible, but he was played off the floor last year because he couldn’t be relied on to hit his open looks. If that no longer ends up being an issue, it’s going to be hard to keep him off the floor.

Tony: I have zero concerns about Keegan Murray’s development, so I was more impressed by Davion Mitchell’s preseason run. I am a big believer in the impact Davion can have on a game outside of the box score, and I still think it was a mistake to keep him off the floor against the Warriors despite his offensive inefficiency, but that’s another conversation for another day.

It doesn’t really matter what I think. Clearly, he didn’t do enough for Mike Brown’s liking in the playoffs. They want to see him shoot the ball from three with more consistency. He did that in the preseason. I’ll take it, and hope it leads to more playing time.

Did any of the returning vets do anything in particular to stand out, for better or worse?

Akis:  Yes, Kevin Huerter, and unfortunately it was for worse.  Huerter’s biggest asset is his three point shooting and when his shot isn’t falling he doesn’t provide much else.  Huerter shot just 22.7% from three in the preseason and only 32.4% overall.  There’s more competition at the two than last season, with both Chris Duarte and Colby Jones joining the team, not to mention returning sixth man candidate Malik Monk.  Mike Brown even benched Huerter for one preseason game to try out Duarte so as to improve the defense of the starters.  Huerter had a habit last year of either being an absolute flamethrower or not being able to hit anything at all, so hopefully this is just shaking some offseason rust, but the Kings are going to need a bit more consistency from him going forward.

Tony: I mentioned being disappointed in Kevin Huerter during our first preseason roundtable, and it hasn’t gotten any better since. I wouldn’t say I’m worried about him long-term. I think he’ll find his shot eventually, either with the Kings or somewhere else, but Mike Brown has options if he continues to struggle, and as the old saying goes, if you snooze you lose.

I wouldn’t hesitate to pull Huerter for Duarte or Jones or Monk or Davion or anyone else behind him if his shooting doesn’t return quickly. I’m coming into the season with a pretty short leash here. 

If you were Mike Brown, what would your rotation be to start the season?

Akis:  To start the year I’d definitely return to last season’s starting lineup of Fox, Huerter, Murray, Barnes and Sabonis, and I’d probably go with a backup rotation of Monk, Mitchell, Lyles, Jones and McGee.  Chris Duarte will probably get the nod over Jones to start the season but I was more impressed with Jones play and ability to do a little bit of everything, including handle the ball.  Sasha is a bit of an awkward fit right now so I’m not sure he’s going to see much time until perhaps injuries open up some minutes in the rotation.

Tony: Oh man. If I’m Mike Brown, I’m getting weird. I don’t expect a lot of agreement here, but I’m starting Fox, Davion, Barnes, Murray, and Sabonis with Monk, Huerter, Jones, Vezenkov, and Lyles off the bench. You can work in McGee or Len if size is an issue, but I am dying to see the Kings actually prioritize defense to any degree, and commit to starting their best defensive player (Davion).

That’s just me. Mike Brown and Kings fans alike can continue begging this team to perform better defensively, but nobody seems to want to reward the players who are actually doing it. It is my hypothesis that if you start Davion Mitchell and let him defend the opposing team’s best guard for 30 minutes every night over the course of 82 games, you will finally start to develop some semblance of a defensive identity. Scoring guards will hate to play the Kings. And selfishly, since my job is not on the line here, I just want to see what kind of player Mitchell is if you really commit to him.

After watching the Kings this preseason, are you more or less encouraged for the upcoming season?

Akis:  I don’t care at all that the Kings finished just 1-4, and am still just very excited to see the team back in action. I think the Kings have a bit more depth than last year, but also still some of the same problems (namely little wing depth and questionable defensive acumen).  This is still going to be a very fun team though and I can’t wait to see them back on court. And if that Warriors preseason game is any indicator, those rematches against Golden State are going to be must see TV this year for any NBA fan.

Tony: I’m nervous about the season but I don’t know what the Kings could have done in the preseason to alleviate that feeling. The Western Conference is brutal, and that’s why I’m not getting hung up on members of the national media who are pessimistic about the Kings this year. The middle of the conference is a toss up, and the Kings are in the middle.

I don’t know if they can replicate the magic they had last year. I do know it’ll be a harder road. I’m excited to see it play out. 

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Hamlet1989
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October 22, 2023 9:36 am

I think Huerter will be the starter game 1. If he struggles, watch for Duarte to start the second half. That’s the swan song.

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October 22, 2023 12:43 pm
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Was not a fan of Heurter last year or in general. His d stinks and he does not shoot well when needed. What’s the point?.

Im hoping they can trade him because I’d much rather have Duarte, Jones or almost anyone at that spot because they’ll defend better and actually hit some 3s when needed.

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October 23, 2023 8:50 am
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Huerter led the team in three point makes per game last season. Keegan Murray made one more total 3 than Huerter did, but played in 5 more games. Huerter’s shooting was a huge part of last season’s success.

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October 23, 2023 12:33 pm
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Yes but not in the playoffs. That is the issue. They need D and some semi consistent shooting in playoffs. (One could also point out his atrocious 3 ball in contest-under pressure).

Heurter, on this team, is replaceable in the playoffs. I’d argue they go further in the playoffs with a 2 who can defend and shoot some.

They already have enough non defenders on the team. Fine if they keep him but I’d like them to trade him and I like others at the 2 for playoff success.

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October 23, 2023 12:37 pm
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And- this is the Miami-playoff model. There are a number of guys that can defend and hit 3 some out there. That’s their entire team aside from big 2.

Same with Kings. Domas and Fox aren’t 3 ball guys yet. Need 2/3 around who defend and shoot.

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October 22, 2023 5:03 pm
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I think a lot of us were hoping KH would develop into Klay lite, but that doesn’t seem like it will happen. It’s starting to feel like KH will become the odd man out and get traded for defensive help at the deadline.

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October 22, 2023 10:14 am

I find it interesting many of us are focused in on Huerter’s slide, and it get it, especially because of the Kings new additions behind him. But for me the biggest disappointment in preseason is an even greater slide by Harrison Barnes. He was the Kings 3rd fiddle last year and has possibly slipped to 5th or even 6th now. He got absolutely smoked by Kuminga in the Warrior games. What’s concerning for me, is there really isn’t anyone behind him on the roster to take up the slack, like there is for Huerter.

Who is going to guard other team’s large wings if the the Kings only have Keegan and a regressing Barnes? It sure didn’t look like Sasha was up to the task.

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October 22, 2023 10:46 am
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It’s like Barnes need to adjust to a different role, again, like last season. He was not very good to start last season as his role was different than previous years. Unfortunately, it can’t keep happening as father time creeps up on him. Dude has logged a ton of minutes in his career.

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October 22, 2023 12:49 pm
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Last playoffs we saw Barnes and Huerter collapse. They both need to be replaced in reality. With Barnes, I think if he plays less minutes he
might be good enough in playoffs

Overall, I wonder if the Kings can improve since they did not address their defensive needs at all. Did not get a wing/3/4.

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October 22, 2023 11:30 am
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Barnes is just being his same here today, gone tomorrow self. He has good nights and night when he disappears. At the 4, he’s out-matched physically on some nights. Aaron Gordon dominated him last season. I like the idea of Bazley as a guy who could come in as a defensive specialist against the Durant, Tatum, Wemby? type guys. Long, athletic, and can really contest shots on the perimeter.

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October 22, 2023 11:53 am
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Same. I like the idea of Bazley on this roster as well.

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October 22, 2023 5:04 pm
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HB should have never been resigned, that $ would have been better used elsewhere. Not to mention the overpay.

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October 22, 2023 10:43 am

Davion no longer is throwing up moon shots like last season. The trajectory looks more normal, and the shot went in much more too.

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October 22, 2023 10:56 am

OT: This is sad for Adams. I really like him. This means, however that the Grizz are likely going to struggle to score and rebound with Adams and Ja for a good chunk of the season. This bodes well for the Kings playoff chances.

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October 22, 2023 7:27 pm
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but still damn shame

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October 22, 2023 11:55 am

Great news that Colby is playing well! From the parts that I’ve seen this preseason, I would agree. He might be a notch above Duarte because he’s healthy and durable. I like that he can back up 1 through 3.

I like your mentions of possibly starting Davion. That would solve a lot of issues on most nights, depending on matchups. Davion’s D sets a tone. A bit more Davion in the recipe please.

Huerter hasn’t changed in my opinion. He sort of had that look in many games last year, and Brown often pulled him off the court in those games. Can’t forget that his style of play on offense has helped form the Kings’ identity. I expect he’ll be firing on all cylinders when the regular season starts.

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October 22, 2023 12:53 pm

As for my PreSeason hot takes – and again, it’s PreSeason.

Domas seems to be intent on becoming more than a low post/ garbage scorer – he looks a bit more like the point center with some high post shooting that the Warriors exposed late April.

Fox – according to Brown and the narrative – will be notched up on defense.
That can only be good- because he will be challenged and other than Davion, backcourt D is lacking (hence the C&C Mute it Factory (Chris & Colby))

Huerter, Barnes slipping? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it’s PreSeason and HB has been reliable and ready too long to question, IMO. I expect he’ll be in his usual form come Game 1. Huerter is a gamer – just a streaky one. That’s who he’s been. We saw him mid-range more at the end of ladt season, and I’d like to see him expand that. Duarte will have to do more and stay healthy to displace Red Velvet.

Keegan was good and is looking gooder.

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October 22, 2023 4:01 pm

This message is for murraytant. Here I go again. Trade- Huerter, Duarte and Vezenkov and compensation to the Raptors for OG Anunoby. If the oppositions point guard is the focus I would start Mitchell alongside Fox. He would take the pressure off Fox. OG would take care of any top wings. If Mitchell continues to improve his shooting that would help Fox, Anunoby, Murray and Sabonis. Not bad starting 5. If the other teams point guard isn’t a Curry or Booker then start Monk along side Fox and Michell would backup Fox. The second tier would be either Mitchell or Monk with Jones, Barnes, Lyles, Edwards, Ellis and McGee or Len. What say you or anybody else?

lakerssuck2002
October 22, 2023 5:48 pm
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Jack, just saw your post…you kinda already answered my question on the OG trade situation.

I have zero idea what is a fair trade. The trade you proposed…I think I’d do that today.

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eddie41
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October 22, 2023 6:08 pm
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don’t think an OG trade is gonna happen, He’s a tad overrated I think because he hit a game winning shot in the playoffs and because his initials are Original Gangster. Has had a lot of injuries. Raptors asking for a lot and they don’t need Huerter now that they have the flashy red suit rookie. Plus, he’s in the last year of his contract and will ask for a big payday in the offseason. Not trading Davion for him. Full stop. Chances of a trade are less than 5%.

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October 22, 2023 6:49 pm
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They need shooters and IMO Huerter would be their guy. Duarte and Vezenkov are up and coming and would fit.

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October 22, 2023 6:53 pm
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not a bad idea (depending on what the extra “compensation” would be). just don’t think Toronto would do it. maybe I’m wrong. things change near the trade deadline and there is always the possibility of getting a third team involved. also, may or may not include Vezenkov – we haven’t really had a chance to see him yet.

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October 22, 2023 11:31 pm
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If it’s Huerter for OG straight up, I’d consider that.

Jack
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October 22, 2023 7:04 pm
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PS. I don’t think OG is over rated. He is considered one of the top defenders at his position in the league.He definitely could guard the likes of James or Durrant. He is in his prime right now with an affordable salary. He can also shoot. Look at his stats. IMO he is what the kings need in a 3 and D.

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October 22, 2023 7:30 pm
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Raptors have a shooter – Trent, Jr.

If you really want to trade Huerter – buy his jersey! That sorta works like washing your car causes it to rain

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October 22, 2023 7:40 pm
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no guarantee that OG can keep up with the Kings’ offense either. Raptors have played a lot of ISO ball.

Jack
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October 23, 2023 7:13 am
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He could keep up.

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October 22, 2023 4:24 pm

I’d give Huerter 5 games to get back on track. Kings don’t have the luxury of giving him 20 games. The division is too hard and the Kings aren’t surprising anyone this year.

lakerssuck2002
October 22, 2023 5:53 pm
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Mike120, would you give Davion, Duarte, Jones the same 5 games to figure out where they all fit in (Duarte being new, Davion’s improved shot, etc.)? What if all of them are playing well? Do we cash in on some combo of this “logjam” of guards who can play to go after that 3/4 of the future (OG or somebody else)?

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October 23, 2023 7:14 am
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Maybe 10 game would be more like it. I’ll split the difference with you.

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October 22, 2023 5:09 pm

Starting lineup at the start of the season will surely be:
Fox
KH
Keegan
HB
Domas

By the trade deadline the starters will be:
-Fox
-Davion
-Keegan
-Defensive minded 3/4 acquired in a trade involving HB and/or KH and pick(s).
-Domas

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October 22, 2023 5:24 pm
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I’ll play…

Start of Season:
-Fox // Mitchell
-Huerter // Monk
-Murray // Jones
-Barnes // Lyles
-Domas // McGee

Post Trade-Deadline:
-Fox // Mitchell
-Jones // Monk
-Murray // Huerter
-Barnes // Vezenkov
-Domas // Lyles

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October 22, 2023 6:53 pm
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What happened to Duarte?

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October 23, 2023 12:42 am
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That’s fair, but IMO one of the main concerns with Duarte is his ability to stay healthy and so far he’s been…hurt. You could swap him out with Jones if he’s ready-to-go, but I won’t be expecting much out him unless he proves he can stay that way.

Personally, I just hope that Mitchell gets more minutes.

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October 23, 2023 3:57 am
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Perspective is everything. I get your lineups. All could work. My only concern right now is our starters. As usual, the West is loaded…specifically our division. The lineup that gives us the best chance to start each game with a chance to win at the end is…

Fox
Duarte
Murray
Barnes
Sabonis

This not to say who ends the game, however. Everyone else is rotational or specific to how the game is flowing and who we are playing. Fox will dominate, he looks primed. No worries though. Duarte is long, can shoot, and can defend his ass off. Doug Christie vibes if he can stay healthy. Murray, no worries. Barnes at the 4…there is concern. We need to get better there through trade or maybe one of the bench guys emerges (maybe Sasha). Who knows, but everyone that’s a King’s fan including Monte knows we need an extremely solid 4 to win a title. No worries with Domas. He looks healthier and is primed. I will say, I wonder what we would look like if he had a dominate starting big and slide everyone over one spot, which means trading Barnes and that trade opens up solid mins for Lyles and Sasha. Lyles will still get spot mins at the 5 depending on who we are playing.

We can be better this year, almost dominate with smart moves. The rest of the West will coast until the all-star break. We don’t have the luxury of coasting. We need seeds 1-3…period. By then, the team has gelled and everyone knows their roles.

GK4L

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October 23, 2023 7:32 am
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If you want big at 4 and slide those down then I have a way out trade that probably won’t happen but who says it is a long shot. Trade Huerter and probably 2 firsts for Wendell Carter Jr. He is 24 and his stats look like this 15.5-8.7- and 35.6 . He can defend and really play defense against those bigs who normally move Sabonis around. Lineup would be Fox, Mitchell or Monk, Murray, Carter and Sabonis. Carter rebounds at almost 9 a game. Mitchell starts when other teams point guard is great like Curry or Booker etc. Monk starts when guards are not first or second options.If inclined you have Duarte ot Jones at the 2. A lot of options. Barnes now comes off the bench.

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October 23, 2023 1:40 pm
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I don’t think ORL would trade Carter Jr. (young asset on a decent contract) but your package is more than a fair offer for a rebuilding team. I think he’d be a decent big next to Domas as he can defend and rebound well due to his long-ass arms while not being horrendous defending on the perimeter…but the spacing would be a concern as Carter Jr. isn’t the best 3pt shooter (32% for his career).

Still, as a potentially realistic trade candidate, the Kings could do much worse. Who knows, with this trade and starting Mitchell at SG the Kings could vastly improve their defense (offense might suffer a bit).

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October 22, 2023 6:51 pm
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Who are you looking at for around 33 million?

lakerssuck2002
October 22, 2023 5:45 pm

I was a little discouraged by pre-season…but that may just be because having watched seven playoff games, I probably had an artificially high bar I want to be crossed.

That said, I am still very excited. Davion and Keegan have me very hopeful. Duarte seems like he could be an improvement too. Jones looked really good to me too. I feel like if Fox can be a tiny bit better from deep, Sabonis on that mid-long range open shot and basically much of the same, the Kings can be better than last year. I am sure the entire league is a little better than last year, but I am still hopeful that we are relatively better still (top 6 seed).

I love reading everybody’s comments and takes on things. Thank you for sharing.

Serious question. I have heard so much talk about possible trade for OG. What has to happen, what assets have to be on the table for OG to land in Sacramento?

Some combo of Huerter, Davion, Jones, Barnes, picks? Like would Huerter, Davion, and a 1st round pick get it done? Or am I way off?

Whatever a more “realistic” package looks like, would you want to make the trade?

If Huerter, Davion, Barns and pick(s) could get it done, wouldn’t we be much better if Jones can play backup PG, Duarte/Monk can play SG minutes and OG is a swap for Barnes minutes?

PG – Fox, Jones
SG – Duarte, Monk
Forwards – Murray, OG, Sasha, Ellis, Edwards
Centers – Sabonis, Lyles, Len

I love Davion and I love Harrison for on and off the court presence. Help me understand why we wouldn’t and how to get this team to the next level maybe with OG as the next guy in the long-term “core” starting lineup.

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October 22, 2023 6:58 pm
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Barne’s contract will be hard to trade along with his age. Toronto wants a shooter and younger players plus draft picks. That’s why I suggested in the above trade.

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October 22, 2023 6:59 pm
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Davion can help the team get to the next level.

Jack
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October 23, 2023 7:10 am
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For your answer about Barnes go up to Adamsite’s comment above.About getting OG go to my comment above. This might help.

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October 23, 2023 7:53 am

I wonder if McNair wanted Sasha to come over because (partly) that makes him a more tangible asset. It is probably easier to trade him once the league knows he is in the NBA and not still contemplating whether or not he will come.

Sasha and Huerter salaries are fairly close to Anunoby…But I don’t expect an Anunoby trade because with Monte is seems that where there is smoke, there is usually not fire.

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