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So long, and thanks for all the dunks

Wishing Richaun Holmes farewell.
By | 105 Comments | Jun 26, 2023

Oct 11, 2021; Portland, Oregon, USA; Sacramento Kings center Richaun Holmes (22) dunks against the Portland Trail Blazers in the second half at Moda Center. Mandatory Credit: Jaime Valdez-USA TODAY Sports

The Sacramento Kings opened up significant cap space and roster flexibility with their draft-night trade that sent Richaun Holmes and the 24th pick to the Dallas Mavericks. Naturally that’s been the focus for the last several days as we excitedly think about how the Kings can improve and move forward, but it’s also worth taking a moment to reflect on the very odd tenure of Richaun Holmes.

Holmes first came to the Kings as a free agent signing in the summer of 2019. Holmes was known as an energy player off the bench, and was expected to be a backup for the newly-signed Dewayne Dedmon. But between Dedmon being a dud and Holmes being a sparkplug, it took just five games for Holmes to earn the starting center position. Dedmon was gone before the end of the season and Holmes had secured himself as the Kings center.

Richaun had an energy and enthusiasm that made him a fan favorite. His push shot was automatic, his dunks were emphatic, and his play was amplified even more with the arrival of Tyrese Haliburton.

Heading into free agency in the summer of 2021 the biggest concern for Kings fans was whether Sacramento would be able retain Holmes. Holmes was seeking a contract larger than what the Kings could offer, and it seemed like he would be leaving. Unfortunately for Holmes, the market never materialized for a larger deal. Holmes returned to the Kings on a 4-year deal that we celebrated at the time. It was a huge win, and was considered a bargain of a contract relative to Holmes’ importance to the Kings.

Unfortunately a variety of circumstances led to that contract becoming such a bad asset that the Kings had to attach a first round pick in order to dump the salary. Holmes suffered a nasty eye laceration that took time to heal, resulting in Holmes wearing protective googles. Holmes’ shooting has never quite been the same since that injury. Holmes was also dealing with an ugly custody fight off the floor. And then, of course, the biggest issue was that the Kings traded Holmes’ pick and roll partner Tyrese Haliburton to the Pacers for Domantas Sabonis.

This season, despite the Kings desperately needing an answer at backup center, Holmes was never able to recapture the spark that made him so beloved when he first arrived in Sacramento. Perhaps it was sour grapes over his reduced role or being on a contract less than he’d imagined, perhaps it was the toll of real world concerns, perhaps it was just age and complacency, but Richaun Holmes just wasn’t the same player anymore.

The Mavericks play a style that should benefit Holmes more, and a change of scenery should give him a chance to rejuvenate his career. Despite the frustration I’ve felt with Holmes over the last year and a half, I’m rooting for him to bounce back in Dallas. Richaun was never a disruptive force in the locker room (at least not that I’ve ever heard about) despite his on-court struggles and his reduced role. I’ll choose to focus less on how his tenure in Sacramento ended, and focus more on how much fun Holmes was in those first few years with the Kings.

Good luck, Richaun.

 

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andy_sims
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June 26, 2023 10:17 am

A class act, and a man whose effort was never in question. I hope he finds his mojo in Dallas, because he’s a blast to watch when he’s grooving. Best of luck, Richaun!

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June 26, 2023 10:31 am

Gonna miss him and the Holmes family but we’ll see him four times a year at least! Hope he gets a big ovation his first game back in G1C.

P.S. Colby and Jalen arrive at SMF today around 1pm. Rookie Airways Flight #LTFB

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June 26, 2023 10:33 am

I’m old enough to remember when the Sixers traded fan favorite Holmes for cash, to free up a roster spot for Jonah Bolden. Good times.

Good dude and I hope he shines.

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June 26, 2023 10:38 am

Weird.

Here you hit the nail on the head:

And then, of course, the biggest issue was that the Kings traded Holmes’ pick and roll partner Tyrese Haliburton to the Pacers for Domantas Sabonis.

But then you ignore that when you ponder why he was never able to recapture the spark: 

Perhaps it was sour grapes over his reduced role or being on a contract less than he’d imagined, perhaps it was the toll of real world concerns, perhaps it was just age and complacency, but Richaun Holmes just wasn’t the same player anymore.

The Kings never played to his strengths.

It’s like asking Buddy Hield to bring the ball up the court and initiate the offense. Who would do that?

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June 26, 2023 10:45 am
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He went from being a a very good player to essentially sucking. I don’t think that kind of drop can be explained exclusively by the change in playing style. Seems to me there were numerous reasons why Richaun faded to oblivion as a King the last year and a half or so. The personal stuff he went through would take a toll on anyone. A change of scenery was best for him and the Kings. I suspect he’ll go back to being a rotational player in Dallas.

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June 26, 2023 10:56 am
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All true, but still.

I remember an SI interview a long time ago with Mo Cheecks, who talked about being a true floor general.

Knowing his teammates, what kind of passes they liked, which one they had trouble with, their sweet spots on the floor, and how important it was for a point guard to help them get untracked and in a flow offensively. How for some players confidence was never lacking but for other players confidence had to be built.

One of the most fascinating interviews with an NBA player I ever read (or maybe part of it was that I was still young an impressionable).

If you don’t put a player in a position to succeed, don’t be surprised if he fails.

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June 26, 2023 11:20 am
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Fair point. I do think some of the blame falls on coach for not finding a way to integrate him, especially considering backup C was a such a hole last season.

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June 26, 2023 11:27 am
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Holmes was at his best when paired with Hali. That’s a hard one to replicate. Bottom line, the Kings changed their offensive system and Holmes did not fit that system. And to be perfectly honest, he did nothing on the defensive end of the floor to offset his offensive limitations.

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June 26, 2023 12:43 pm
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“If you don’t put a player in a position to succeed, don’t be surprised if he fails.”

This would seem to apply to Collins, more so than Holmes. He’s just really limited, skills-wise. Haliburton obviously got a lot from him, and we’ll continue to miss Tyrese, but your argument seems as much an indictment as excuse. If your only good next to someone spoon-feeding you buckets, then how good are you really?

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June 26, 2023 1:25 pm
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100% agree. I loved Holmes. Still think he can be a good player in this league. We just decided to run a different offense. One that he’s not good at. Simple as that. Best of luck to him in Dallas.

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June 26, 2023 10:46 am

Good luck to Mr. Holmes. He should thrive as a pick and roll player off Luka and presumably Kyrie. Look forward to seeing him pop the push shot again.

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June 26, 2023 10:50 am

Looks as though Naz Reid is resigning with Minny.
Sounds like Draymoron is resigning with the duds, thankfully.
Listened to a few pods this weekend and it sounds like the NBA world is intrigued by what MM may do with the increased cap space from the draft day trade.
Some speculation that MM will pre-emptively redo Domas’ contract and extend him now. I don’t buy that, we’ll be capped out next season regardless so now is the time to use that cap space to really improve the talent level around the core.
My suspicion as of now is a contract offer for Jerami Grant.

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June 26, 2023 11:00 am
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John Collins to Utah.

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June 26, 2023 11:07 am
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For nothing. Collins’ value/contract must be significantly lower than what I would have thought.

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June 26, 2023 11:10 am
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ATL is trying to avoid the luxury tax. Straight salary dump for them.

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June 26, 2023 11:17 am
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Absolutely, but there are/were several teams that were in a position to accommodate that, and some with a need at the position that Collins plays (both Sac and Indy immediately jump to mind). That Collins was worth only a 2nd round pick and Rudy Gay speaks volumes.

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June 26, 2023 11:07 am
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Basically a salary dump, lol

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June 26, 2023 11:09 am
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Wow. I’m not the biggest fan of JC but I would’ve taken him for nothing.
Ainge keeps killing it.

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June 26, 2023 11:11 am
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Utah had space for the contract. Atlanta needed to shed.

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June 26, 2023 11:22 am
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I thought the Jazz had one of the best drafts and now this trade on top of all they got for Gobert and Spida. Such a quick turn around. Not to mention the great coaching hire.

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June 26, 2023 10:58 am

Holmes was a decent player on a bad team. I was glad when they re-signed him, shows what I know. He sucks. He’s exactly the kind of player Dallas apparently thinks is gonna help them to contention. It hasn’t worked yet.

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June 26, 2023 11:13 am

Scratching my head wondering how Monte is gonna find a better player than J Collins, to fit this roster, at that kind of price. So far, he’s struck-out on Bradley Beal, who really didn’t seem to make sense anyway, and Anunoby, who must be Ujiri’s son-in-law, or something. There was never talk of serious inquiries with the Hawks, unless it was about Hunter (meh). Collins made a lot of sense to me, KP as well. There have been rumors of Kuzma, Paul George. Apparently, NBA agents still have no interest in sending their clients to Sac, unless they’re gonna be paid wildly more than they’re worth. Free-agency hasn’t started yet, and it’s already another bummer here in Sac. Frustrated!

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June 26, 2023 11:20 am
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I would have liked Collins as well, but the 3/$78m price tag may have been too much for the Kings to onboard, especially with the new CBA looming.

Free agency hasn’t started yet, which is why it is not quite yet time to call another bummer here in Sac. Waiting a couple of weeks before jumping to conclusions!

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June 26, 2023 11:26 am
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Waiting a couple of weeks before jumping to conclusions!

Exactly. MM made that draft day trade for a reason and has a plan in place. Let’s see it play out over once FA officially commences.

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June 26, 2023 11:38 am
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The Reid resign was disappointing but expected and a high cost. Minnesota has a ton of money on 3 centers.
Collins- came cheap to Utah but would he have helped the Kings at that cost/price (3/78 is large for 13 ppg.)
Hope that MM has a plan with all that money.
what about HB, Lyles, Sasha, Yuta Watanabe and Jock Londale and Torrey Craig.?

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June 26, 2023 11:44 am
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Asking myself what Collins at 3/$78m is worth vs. Barnes at ?/$? I mean, I would take Barnes at 3/$48m over Collins at 3/$78m if it allowed me added wing depth or a viable backup 5 (Plumlee?). Is Kuzma at 3/$78m worth more in the Kings system than Collins? Is Christian Wood a cheaper option than Collins at a similar productivity?

There will sure be a lot of time for second guessing when all of the dust settles, but this front office, unlike its predecessors, has a lot of traction with me right now when it comes to them knowing much, much, much, much more than I do when it comes to constructing this team.

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June 26, 2023 11:50 am
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Is Kuzma at 3/$78m worth more in the Kings system than Collins?

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June 26, 2023 12:02 pm
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I don’t get the Kuzma attraction. Low efficiency scorer, doesn’t play much defense.

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June 26, 2023 12:04 pm
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Same.

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June 26, 2023 12:11 pm
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Compared to Barnes, he is a significantly better rebounder, passer and shot blocker. Questions would certainly abound as it pertains to his willingness to become a more efficient and less prolific shooter. He is known as a more versatile and capable wing defender than anyone that was on the Kings roster last year.

I think that he has a persona and some old Laker stank that is off-putting to some, but he does click some boxes playing up front with Sabonis and Murray.

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June 26, 2023 12:33 pm
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I just don’t want to have to learn to like Kuzma. Even his name stinks. It sounds like some kind of discharge.

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June 26, 2023 12:23 pm
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Did hear -Simmons- that McNair tried getting Klay for Heurter but probably speculation.

But I’m hopeful McNair is looking to deal Heurter. His D is sketchy and didn’t hit shit when mattered.

Have to get defenders and shooters, who make in playoffs, to surround Sabs and Fox. This is the deal if you build around 1-1/2 non shooters.

Why I’m not in on Kuz. Gotta be nails from 3.

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June 26, 2023 1:28 pm
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Did hear -Simmons- that McNair tried getting Klay for Heurter but probably speculation.

He literally said he was just making the trade up out of thin air. He was in no way reporting McNair tried to do that.

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June 26, 2023 1:31 pm
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I stopped reading at “Simmons.”

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June 26, 2023 6:09 pm
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Ahh. That makes more sense. Heard from someone else about Simmons.

However, I still think using Huerter as part of a trade is a good idea/fine by me.

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June 26, 2023 2:22 pm
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I also like Drew Eubanks.

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June 26, 2023 12:30 pm
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We’ve got no choice but to wait. This time of the year is always frustrating for that reason. I’m not jumping to conclusions. Maybe Vezenkov will be better for $8M than Collins will ever be at $24M. That being said, so far, nothing.

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June 26, 2023 12:39 pm
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Except that it really has not been nothing when compared to the rest of the league.

The Kings were involved in a draft night trade six days ago, one in which they sent a pick and Richaun Holmes to Dallas for essentially cap space. Since draft night, the Wolves re-signed Naz Reid (during a period where no one else could make an offer to Reid), and today Atlanta salary dumped Collins. So unless I’m missing something, the “nothing” that the Kings have done is not trade for Collins.

Three weeks from now, if all the Kings have to show for the summer is re-signing Vez, Lyles, Barnes and extending Sabonis, I will be a bit bummed. But that’s three weeks from now. Given that free agency has not yet begun, I’m not sure what the Kings could have / should have done by now.

And 1 – If the Kings do use the freed up cap space to extend Sabonis, it will bum me out, but I will also appreciate the total lack of stress that will come from his eventual free agency.

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June 26, 2023 1:03 pm
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You’re basically right, and they’re just rumors, but Beal, Anunoby, a lot of smoke, and no fire. I’m of the opposite opinion, in that, I’ll be very happy with extending Domas, re-signing Barnes, and/or Lyles, Vezenkov, and not much else. I just don’t want to see any overpays, and I don’t see much of anyone left on the market who really moves the needle, especially w/o overpaying. Monte could very well surprise us all, and probably will, but that seems more likely to happen during the season. NBA agents just don’t sign their players to Sac w/o cashing a check that always seems to be way too big.

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June 26, 2023 1:15 pm
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Other than via trades or the draft, when was the last time an impact player came to Sac?

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June 26, 2023 1:27 pm
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Malik Monk?

If we are going by five figure annual salaries over the past half dozen years., the list would be Monk, Holmes (re-signed but a UFA nonetheless), Barnes (also a UFA re-signing), Demon, Hill, Zach Randolph. I think that’s it. Hill would have been the highest rated at the time of the signing – he was generally regarded as a top FA, especially at PG.

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June 26, 2023 1:59 pm
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Good memory! Who’s Demon? Oh Dedmon! Of the guys listed Monk is the only guy I wouldn’t call a mistake, not terribly encouraging. I won’t say anything bad about Monk, and I’ve been selling him as our starter at the two. Most on this site seem to think Huerter is better, I disagree pretty strongly. So maybe you made your point. Monte signed Monk, and hopefully he can sign a bonafide starter on the wing next week. And maybe w/o losing Barnes. I’m obviously anxious!

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June 26, 2023 6:11 pm
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I see this an an opportunity for Sac to become a true contender. They have the 2 stars and coach.
Time to see how far they can go, not just little tweaks.

Though tweak of Ried and a 3 and D wing might have been enough.

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June 26, 2023 1:12 pm
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Also, other teams are locking-up their FAs and the market is drying up. Is there a chance the Kings miss-out on their own guys waiting around for an impact FA acquisition which never materializes?

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June 26, 2023 1:18 pm
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Well, if the free agent market dries up before free agency begins, the Kings could still re-sign their guys, right?

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June 26, 2023 1:45 pm
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Barnes, at least is restricted, not sure about Lyles. I’m pretty sure, you get them cheaper if you sign them now, before the bidding starts.

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June 26, 2023 1:49 pm
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Especially if I’m in Barnes’ position, and you make me wait, and only offer me money after failing to sign my replacement.

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June 26, 2023 2:14 pm
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Barnes and Lyles are both UFAs. They both have cap holds, but that does not restrict them in any way, nor does it give the Kings matching rights.

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June 26, 2023 3:02 pm
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Asking because I legitimately don’t know: Assuming Sabonis prefers to stay in Sacramento, it seems like putting off re-signing him until next summer gives the team more flexibility in the present. Sacramento will still be able to offer more than any other team (I think), so is there a likely downside to waiting a year?

I’d think McNair and Sabonis would unofficially put their cards on the table as far as waiting or not waiting. I do understand Sabonis wanting the security of a new deal, so if that’s the way it plays, does that present any benefit for the 2024 offseason?

Questions: I have them.

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June 26, 2023 3:13 pm
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Yeah, I think that the primary, if not only benefit to the early extension is to have it done. I don’t know that there are any cost savings, though perhaps the early extension assists in spreading some of the dollars out?

My guess is that the early extension becomes an option if everything else falls through, and even then the Kings might prefer to hold onto the cap space up to the trade deadline.

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June 27, 2023 10:19 am
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That all makes good sense, thanks for weighing in.

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June 26, 2023 3:17 pm
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I think you might get what you just listed plus Brown or Hart… Or Brown or Hart instead of Barnes

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June 26, 2023 2:26 pm
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Now that’s something to ponder.

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June 26, 2023 11:24 am
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MM probably hasn’t “struck out” on anything. You’re assuming he had interest in Collins. MM has had the chance to trade for Collins since he took over as GM and never did, I just don’t think he values Collins given his contract.
The new CBA and it’s impact on salaries and team building is real. Just wouldn’t make sense to take on a Beal or even Collins.

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June 26, 2023 11:35 am
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Sending Collins to Sacramento at that price would likely make the Kings better, and reduce the value of the 2024 pick.

I’m pretty confident that this is pretty far down on Atlanta’s list, but I’m throwing it out there anyway.

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June 26, 2023 11:53 am
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Now wouldn’t it be something if Utah simply flips Collins to Sac and gets more out of it than ATL did. Ha!

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June 26, 2023 11:36 am
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I’m scratching my head as to why Utah made the trade. They could have done much better with the cap space. Why take on Collins deal when you have Markkanen and just spent the #9 pick on a PF.

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June 26, 2023 11:46 am
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No chance that we can pick up Olynik on the cheap?

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June 26, 2023 11:50 am
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Nothing comes on the cheap with Ainge, but we will know here in a couple of days because Olynyk’s $12M deal is only partially guaranteed at $3M. Do they cut him or guarantee his deal?

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June 26, 2023 1:21 pm
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Would love this idea!

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June 26, 2023 12:26 pm
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I never got over Danny Ainge spending an entire game bagging on Hedo’s nose. That was, I believe, right after he quit on his team in Phoenix. I can’t stand him, and I couldn’t give a shit less what Utah did, or why. I also can’t stand Kelly Olynik. Why is he still in the NBA? Hard no on him. I’d rather pay $12M to Lyles, than $3M to Olynik.
Collins is long, athletic, and can block a shot. There’s no one like him in Sac, so I thought he could be good. Maybe I’m wrong. With the situation in Atlanta, he seemed like a worthwhile gamble, as a reclamation project. Time will tell.

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June 26, 2023 1:45 pm
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I never got over Danny Ainge spending an entire game bagging on Hedo’s nose. 

I recall that as well, it was something to witness in real time and it doesn’t seem like he got any flak for it, granted it was before the social media age. He was literally blurting out “look at the beak on that guy.” Crazy.

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June 26, 2023 1:43 pm
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I think you said it yourself…wouldn’t it be funny if Utah turned around and flipped Collins for a better return.
Ainge is always thinking ahead and I think is simply accumulating a degraded asset and hoping he can increase its value and flip it later on or better yet, Collins rejuvenates his career in Utah like Lauri did and is another piece to build around.

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June 26, 2023 2:16 pm
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Does anyone know if this ever healed?
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June 26, 2023 5:18 pm
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There is no reporting that he had surgery after the season. Peachtree Hoops stated he played virtually the entire season with a wrap on the finger and his shooting did improve in the last part of the season. Maybe it’s gotten better but I will never be able to unsee that image.

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June 26, 2023 7:01 pm
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Why is that finger pregante? Who’s the father?

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June 26, 2023 11:29 am

I’m happy that Richaun will get a new opportunity elsewhere. It’s unfortunate he couldn’t find a role or play like how he used to when he first got here. At least there was that one highlight this past season against the Lakers where he stepped up and played really well and got DPOG.

Best of luck to the future, Richaun.

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June 26, 2023 12:10 pm

so, apparently, there’s a CBA rule that would allow the Kings to extend Domas this summer?

sounds good to me.

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June 26, 2023 1:46 pm
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That would likely mean not landing a big FA. It’ll be interesting to see what happens.

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June 26, 2023 2:14 pm
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if you’re logic is correct, then landing a big FA this summer would reduce the chances of resigning Sabonis.

I’m also doubtful that any big FA would be a significant upgrade at PF.

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June 26, 2023 3:08 pm
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I’m not sure who you put in too the “big FA” category but we still have space. The reports I’ve seen have them increasing Sabonis’ contract by about $12mm/year then extending him on that new salary. That would mean the kings still have 20mm+ in cap space. Basically what they had before the Holmes trade. You can still get some solid players with that, including Barnes, Hart, Brown, though you likely miss on Kuzma and the other top names.

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June 26, 2023 4:14 pm
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How about Barnes, Lyles and Vezenkov?

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June 26, 2023 12:16 pm

There is reporting out now that Monte passed on Collins for nothing (whatever that means). I personally like his game better than Kuzma. It’s hard to get a good read on what’s going on with Collins, or even the Kings, from the outside. They tendered Vezenkov an offer, and maybe he’ll be good.
As frustrated as I’m becoming, I’m really fine with them sitting out free-agency, for the most part. I’m really going to be disappointed if Monte signs Kuzma for $30M per year for 4 seasons, when we could have had Collins for 3 years, at basically $25M per.

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June 26, 2023 12:27 pm
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Agreed. I’d take Collins over Kuzma as well, especially if Kuzma comes at a higher price. Collins is younger, more efficient and a better rim protector than Kuzma.

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June 26, 2023 12:31 pm
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Agreed on all of that, but Kuzma is a far better wing defender. So some of this may come down to how the Kings project Murray defensively next year. If they think he can cover NBA wings, go get Christian Wood for a lower investment than Collins (or Kuzma). If they project Murray as defending at the four, then Kuzma gives you wing defense and some help on the boards.

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June 26, 2023 12:35 pm
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All I currently have to go on is that Brown did have Murray pick up wings at the point of attack on defense last season. It was notable to me that Brown trusted Murray on defense. Part of that could have been because Barnes was physically stronger to pick up traditional 4s, or I could just be full of shit.

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June 26, 2023 12:46 pm
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And there is certainly the argument that Murray is your 3rd musketeer, and if he is your primary wing guy, then a reasonably priced Christian Wood might be the answer.

With the new CBA, the Kings may be looking at investing big dollars in no one player this summer. They may be looking for wins in the aggregate. Add a (for example) Plumlee and/or Wood, a Bruce Brown or make an offer for Thybulle, DSJ or Shake Milton at PG. Something like that.

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June 26, 2023 12:53 pm
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I prefer that method over cutting a big check to one player. Smaller ancillary pieces are also much easier to move down the road if need be.

I’d imagine Wood, Yuta, Thybulle, Coby White or any other middling piece could ALL be had for $30M…or Monte could spend it all on one Kuzma. Give me the smaller pieces and fill out the roster over a 3rd banana. As you said, maybe Murry already is that 3rd guy, so why not just get the pieces for a sum greater than the parts.

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June 26, 2023 1:01 pm
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As a counter argument, there is a reason that the pay is so stratified, the market sets the salaries. Three $10M players does not equal one $30M player.

Wood, Yuta, Thybulle, Coby White are all good reserves – but this team might excel more with another starting level talent. It is a bigger risk to place more chips on one spot before you spin the wheel, but them’s the stakes.

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June 26, 2023 1:26 pm
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Agreed

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June 26, 2023 1:31 pm
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not so sure about that. chucking out 30M might sound okay now when there’s plenty of cap room, but it can become a handicap in years 2, 3 and 4 if those new players don’t move the needle. It would be like the T-Wolves roster in KG’s last year there. They were stuck with it and lost Garnett.

I’d try to lock up Sabonis as a high priority. that would mean (according to what I’ve been reading recently) shelling out an additional 8 million this year over what he is currently making. That would make the Kings a playoff team for the next five years and Sabonis would continue to give the team his best efforts (like playing with that thumb injury last year).

The PF position is more of a debate, but with Reid and Porzingis committed elsewhere, I think the best option there (barring a trade) is in-house, with some combination of Barnes, Lyles Vezenkov and Slawson.

For backup center, not sure. they can always try to get a couple of them on the cheap.

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June 26, 2023 1:51 pm
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There’s probably a cap world where you can sign Domas and a couple of good ancillary players like Wood and say a wing like Brown or Thybulle. I’d be perfectly fine with that.
I’m personally very high on Jerami Grant. But Grant likely costs at least $25 million per year, if you can get Wood for $10-$12 million a year, seems like much better value.
Even HB, I don’t think he’s more than a $12 million a year player at this point. Yes he’ll likely get around $15 million on the open market, but if we could resign him for around $12 million I’d be good with that.

If all we did was resign HB, sign Wood and Bruce Brown and somehow extend Domas, I’d call it a win.

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June 26, 2023 2:17 pm
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If all we did was resign HB, sign Wood and Bruce Brown and somehow extend Domas, I’d call it a win.

I would be satisfied with this outcome as well.

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June 26, 2023 2:25 pm
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Thybulle is not an upgrade over Kessler Edwards.

Bruce Brown would not fill a position of need, and Colby Jones can probably earn those TD minutes.

I’m doubtful that Wood would be an upgrade over Lyles, and Wood might cost more.

Grant is too expensive and might not be an upgrade over Barnes.

The goal is to be “aggressive but disciplined”.

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June 26, 2023 2:38 pm
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Talk your shit.

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June 26, 2023 2:50 pm
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did I offend somebody?

“aggressive but disciplined” is a quote from the GM.

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June 27, 2023 2:36 pm
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Absolutely not. That is a compliment to your statement my fellow Kings fan.

I’m on the east coast. Talk your shit means I am enjoying what you’re saying.

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June 26, 2023 5:31 pm
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I agree with the approach but I’m skeptical of Christian Wood’s fit. He plays sloppy defense and I don’t think he would handle a quick hook from Mike Brown well.

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June 27, 2023 8:24 am
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Tough for me to gauge Wood, as his environment has been so shitty for the past few years (Houston and Jason Kidd – yipes!). You have to figure that Sac. would be Xanadu compared what he has dealt with, and that might bring another level to his play.

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June 26, 2023 12:54 pm
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Just me – but, keeping Domantas Sabonis as a King is a bigger priority than any addition. Extending him this Summer, even if he can not count against the cap next season, when he is a UFA, is a different message to Domas and his agent.

As for Harrison Barnes – the guy is a solid pro. If it weren’t for his playoffs, I believe the consensus here would be to re-sign HB at around his last deal. He played 82 games for the Kings and did all that was asked and more. His regular season numbers were a bit up and down but overall very good and his presence on the team and in the locker room and mentoring the young’uns is valuable.

For team deficiencies – the Top 3 are rebounding, back up for Sabonis and rebounding in that order, though maybe back up for Sabonis should be higher. The Ox was superhuman last season. He plays hard and was beat up like a tackling dummy – he needs and deserves relief. Part of that is providing the team the ability to rest him and the Kings did a poor job of providing that last season. Domas, winner and leader that he is, would just forego rest. That has to change.

I mention Barnes and Sabonis, because to me, part of being an improving team is stability. Something much too rare in SacTown. Let’s see a team with a same/similar set of core players with the same coach, the same GM for another season or two. That is another way to see progress, not just by talent shuffling.

I am an advocate for young and strong (OG Anunoby, Kyle Kuzma) but I also see Nikola Vucevic as a great compliment to this team. Btw, Vucevic also played 82 games last season.

That’s just the free agents. For all we know, maybe there is a trade in the works (Paul George, DeMar Derozan, make up your own person).

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June 26, 2023 1:28 pm

I like your thinking, but I think Vucevic’s game is in free-fall, and he never played much defense. Everything else I agree with.

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June 26, 2023 2:48 pm
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Would you prefer Plumlee, Bryant or Biyombo as a back up or Vucevic as a starter/back up?

Sign me up for the Montenegrin. He makes the Kings better and, as I mention above, saves wear and tear on your All-NBA Center, yet they can play together.

That would definitely send Keegan and HB to the 3, but they can rotate to the 4 as they had shown last season.

I don’t think Jason Hart (the “perfect” SF, IMO) is leaving the Big Apple for the Big Tomato.

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June 27, 2023 7:40 am

I agree with this. Stability. I’m totally fine running it back with Barnes, Lyles and an extended Ox. We’re still likely adding a Sasha to the mix and I’m pretty confident that isn’t an addition that doesn’t automatically make your team better. The kings are already good. If they simply keep all the players that made them that good and then add a European league MVP then the team just got better. Barnes and Sasha at the 4 is very interesting to me. Keegan and a fully integrated Edwards at the 3 is interesting to me. Lyles as a backup (and or 3rd option) at the 4/5 is excellent in my opinion. Replacing TD, Lyles, Holmes and Deli with guys that fit better with the core or actually push their way into the core is exceptional. Who will those guys be?

I’m of the opinion that Neemias should be given the keys to the back up center role. He’s earned it and I think has real potential to make some serious noise if given the opportunity. He fits what the team needs perfectly. Low cost big man that has a presence in the paint, can shoot, can rebound and block shots. All for a very low cost. It’s a perfect fit, in my opinion. If it turns out that he’s not playing well enough as the backup 5 then you can make a trade for someone before the deadline that hopefully fits better.

PG: Fox, Off Night, free agent signing

SG: Headband Huerter, Monk (Jones?, Ellis?, Dozier?)

SF: Spock, Edwards, free agent

PF: Barnes, Sasha, Lyles

C: Ox, Neemias

Thats a very good core in my opinion. And it’s actually an improved core from a squad that already showed that they are very good.

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June 26, 2023 1:24 pm
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Wood, at the right price, would settle my frustration a lot. He never seems to live-up to expectations, except against Sac., but his skillset would fit here quite well. Kuzma might be good too, I just don’t like him, and he’s gonna want too much money. I don’t like him either but, Austin Reaves might look good with this roster, assuming LA gives his money to Rui, who I like much better.

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June 26, 2023 1:47 pm
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I agree with your regarding Collins over Kuzma. But at this point, MM deserves the benefit of the doubt, whatever moves he makes, I’ll be behind 100 percent.

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June 26, 2023 12:42 pm

The power of first impressions.

I will forever think of Holmes as an over-achiever and am grateful he was a King!

I hope he does well.

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June 26, 2023 1:08 pm

Thanks for all of the beautiful push-shots, too, Richaun!

Best wishes with you wherever you go.

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June 26, 2023 1:16 pm
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yeah, that push shot is gold

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June 26, 2023 1:36 pm
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was

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June 26, 2023 1:52 pm
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Here’s hoping the push shot becomes “is” gold again.

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June 26, 2023 1:12 pm

Thank you Richaun and the Holmes family for your energy, your passion and your effort that helped carry the team and the fans through the last few seasons.

Continued success on your new team. The fans and franchise are lucky to have you. Show’em all of the goodness you have to offer.

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June 26, 2023 3:14 pm

I’ve always been a fan of guys who hustle, and Holmes was one of those guys. Wish him the best.

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June 26, 2023 3:53 pm

Wishing Richaun and his parents all the best. Hope he’s able to have a happy landing in Dallas. He was a bright spot for many games, especially earlier in his time in Sac.

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June 26, 2023 5:46 pm

Dr. Holmes thank you for all your positive and supportive tweets. You and your son are the best.

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June 27, 2023 7:45 am

Good luck Richaun!!! Loved you as a King. Respect.

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