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Why do we root for bad teams?

A question all Kings fans ask themselves from time to time.

Editor's Note: What follows is a reader submission! Dave has been a lurker in our community but decided to stretch his writing legs and share his thoughts on sports fandom. Enjoy!

Why do we root for bad teams? It's been a rough year, is it really necessary to compound misery by supporting a flailing group of athletes? Last season, I received a $250 ticket from the City of Rancho Cordova for not fully stopping while taking a right turn at a red light. $250. I opened this bundle of joy while watching the Sacramento Kings get blown out in preseason game. Why was I watching a probable 30 win basketball team in preseason game I knew they were going to lose? I'd compare it to going on WebMD to self diagnose your mole on limited laptop battery. It does not seem like a good use of time or result in any sort of positive psychological benefit.

Life can be tough so is it wise to emotionally tie yourself to a perennially underachieving sports franchise? I believe the true answer to that question depends on your expectations and your sense of humor. If you're the sort of person that dropkicks your TV remote every time your team loses, it's going to be a long, hard life. If you expect your team to win every time you turn the game on, I commend your optimism, but deplore your understanding of statistics.

Most teams that people consider €œbad" lose more than 50% of their games. That's like flipping a coin, having it land tails, and dejectedly ruining Thanksgiving for everyone. On the flip side (coin pun intended), watching the Detroit Lions lose on Thanksgiving has become a major part of my Michigan-originated family tradition. You need a huge turkey, Grandma's homemade gravy, and the Lions to fall apart in the fourth quarter. It feels incomplete without it. Unexpected side effect: historically consistent athletic failure can result in family bonding.

Optimism is fine as long as your enjoyment of the game is not tied to the outcome. Here are a few fun observations I like to make while exiting a stadium after a loss: 1. "Boy, our new first round draft pick sure keeps his shoes clean! You can tell a lot about a man by how he maintains his shoes." 2. "Was it just me or were the hot dogs way better than normal? I think they switched to organic ketchup. Classy move, Sacramento.€ 3. "At least we don't live in North Korea, right? The best athlete they get to see is Dennis Rodman."

Other than distracting observations, the key is being able to laugh when things go wrong. For example, imagine your coach goes berserk over a call which grants free throws for the other team. This result is substantially worse than the outcome of the original call. If you can't giggle at that irony while watching a grown man throw a temper tantrum, you're missing out on one of life's little gifts.

The true answer to whether supporting a bad team is good for you really depends on your expectations. If you're a $12-stadium-beer-half-full sort of person, you expect a bad team to lose and are pleasantly surprised when they don't. Some of my favorite memories happened when the Kings were overlooked and beat a team they shouldn't have. For example in 2018-2019 season, the Space Jam MonStars known as the Golden State Warriors decided to rest 2 of their 4 All-Stars against the Kings, assuming a win. The Kings made them pay TWICE that season which allowed me to briefly taunt my friends from the Bay Area. This added joy to my life where it otherwise would have been absent. To answer the original question, I believe rooting for a bad team builds character, provides comic relief, and puts the real tragedies of life in perspective. So go ahead and spend $80 on the jersey of your team's untested draft pick. My Jimmer Fredette jersey never ceases to make me smile, and isn't that the point of watching sports? If you're not smiling, you're probably doing it wrong.

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Malrock
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December 15, 2020 8:50 am

Also we must all be true fans, because if we were band wagon fans we would have left this train long ago.

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December 15, 2020 9:03 am
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my position is really simple on this: if you’re reading this blog, you’re a hardcore kings fan. only a real fanatic would read a blog about a team that hasn’t sniffed the playoffs in 15 years.

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December 15, 2020 10:25 am
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AND you’re a masochist.

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December 15, 2020 9:11 am
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This train hasn’t left the station in a long time. Or maybe it derailed? I can’t tell. 😉

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December 15, 2020 8:50 am

Fantastic. And probably worth plugging in the symptoms of being a Kings fan on WebMD as well. Probably would come back with things like insanity, extreme masochism, hallucination syndrome, and lupus.

Also, what if I am a 5 stadium beers all empty type of guy? Makes the games more watchable at times at least 🙂

But a great article and I enjoyed reading.

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December 15, 2020 9:14 am
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5 beers? Are we talkin first half totals here?

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December 15, 2020 9:25 am
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I’m getting older, my VORLD (Value Over Replacement Level Drinker) is going down.

I’m quickly being relegated to a VC-like mentorship role, so the younger Kings fans can achieve their full beer drinking potential.

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December 15, 2020 9:59 am
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That implies you’re still a drinker. I’m a shell of my former drinking self now. And that happened for health reasons. (I’d be drinking like a fish all day every day if I could.)

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December 15, 2020 10:35 am
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In that case, friend, I’d like to talk to you about drugs.

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December 15, 2020 10:51 am
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Drugs are bad. Didn’t you listen to Nancy Reagan when she was flapping her gums in whatever clotheshorse manner moved her that day?

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December 15, 2020 11:00 am
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Remember when WebMD first went up, an we all just knew that it had to be cancer?

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December 15, 2020 1:10 pm
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I had strep throat once around 2006 and felt absolutely terrible when it was first setting in.

Before I could get to the doctor, I plugged the symptoms in WebMD and it was suggesting cancer, tumors, and all sorts of terrible ailments. I bunch of random vitamins at CVS and was miserable until my actual Dr.’s appointment.

Have been a bit more cautious with it ever since.

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December 15, 2020 3:51 pm
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Stomach discomfort? CANCER
Joint soreness? CANCER
Pink eye? CANCER
Cancer? DOUBLE CANCER

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December 15, 2020 5:54 pm
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It was probably the first CD-19 case. Eaten any bat back than? 😉

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December 15, 2020 9:01 am

Thank you for this and for de-lurking.

Will we see you around in the comment section more often?

I have to ask: would you smile every time if you had a custom-made Kings Luka jersey?

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December 15, 2020 9:24 am
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I think I would cry.

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December 15, 2020 9:02 am

Great bit of writing there. Keep it up. I actually like going against the grain. I honestly wouldn’t enjoy this team as much of they we’re winning and everyone jumped onboard. Instead we have this tight-knit group of loser-lovers and it’s gold.

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December 15, 2020 9:25 am

Takes me back to the nineties when Indie Street Cred„¢ was more important than life itself, and resulted in a phenomenon I called “more alternative than thou.”

They were my favorite band until another person became aware that they existed!

I agree with you about bandwagoneers, but I’ll put up with them rather than continue to pull for a perpetually losing team.

Christ, I’m a Bengals fan. My allegiances are lifelong and often very, very stupid.

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December 15, 2020 9:49 am
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Let’s not forget that a HUGE portion of the current die hard fanbase started as bandwagoners in the late-90s.

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December 15, 2020 10:26 am

This is true. I am one.

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December 15, 2020 7:25 pm
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Takes me back to the nineties when Indie Street Cred„¢ was more important than life itself, and resulted in a phenomenon I called €œmore alternative than thou.€

They were my favorite band until another person became aware that they existed!

That phenomenon lasted thru the 1st decade of this century (at least).

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December 15, 2020 9:05 am

Well done – fun read.

It’s geography for me. If this team resided anywhere other than the Sacramento area, I would not be following them…or the NBA all that much, really.

That said, it’s the now-TKH community that has kept me high level-interested over the years. Without this community the team would be far less important to me and take up far less of my time.

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December 15, 2020 9:11 am
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I can’t tell you how much time I spend each time going to Google Images looking for GIFs to reply to comments on here.

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December 15, 2020 9:26 am
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December 15, 2020 9:06 am

Skinner’s rat experiment with variable reinforcement.

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December 15, 2020 9:09 am
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December 15, 2020 9:11 am

I’m not sure I “root” for the Kings right now, for reasons I’ve touched on before. I enjoy this blog and I enjoy following Kings news and NBA news like a soap opera almost, looking out for hot takes, trade tweets, etc. When I actually want to watch basketball to see the game played in an enjoyable way, I watch the Blazers by simple virtue of geography.

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December 15, 2020 9:12 am

When you fail as much as the Kings hae, the small success are the greatest feeling. I couldn’t imagine becoming numb with expectations of winning. Lakers and recent Warriors have fans have that kind of superficial feeling.

Another major aspect is being a one sport town. Things may change with the Republic going major, but one sport teams have a special connection to their community. When you’re quite literally the only game in town, you take what you can get.

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December 15, 2020 11:11 am
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I love getting the chance to turn good comments purple. Enjoy that 5th rec pal

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December 15, 2020 11:31 am
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What about millennials who grew up in the Bay, but who’s favorite teams were the Kings revolving around Webber and co? Then said fan went off to school at UCD and took up a job with the State after graduation only to see said team collapse into destruction after Artest (MWP) leaves. So then the fan returns home to the Bay and watches his neglected local bball team become legendary, yet still reads this blog every week since Zillercat founded it. Strange and superficial don’t begin to describe it…

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December 15, 2020 12:31 pm
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Tom Ziller is who you speak. ZillersCat is a neglected pet meme.
 W. Griffith created the discussion of a Cat? I actually don’t know the origin?

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December 15, 2020 9:14 am

I don’t root for bad teams. I root for my teams whether they’re winning or losing. Bandwagon fans are basically the Vichy French of athletics, and should be treated as such.

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December 15, 2020 9:20 am
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Do the Vichy French have good looking women? I’m asking….for a friend.

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December 16, 2020 1:04 am
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Have the French ever had been known for not having good looking women? Tell your friend the Vichy French had particularly good looking women. What is a young woman to do when your country is being sacked…..answering….for a friend.

But the women of the French resistance were also very good looking if somewhat less haute monde.

But my question is why hasn’t France produced better hoopers? Along with believing that any player the Kangz draft will not meet any expectations. My personal rule of thumb is if your team drafts any French players in the lottery you will be rooting for a bad team. Right?

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December 15, 2020 9:25 am
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We should only aspire to our defense being as good as the Maginot Line. What a thought.

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December 15, 2020 9:45 am

“Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.
Anything built by man, can be destroyed by him.”

-George S. Patton, on drafting slow, immobile players

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December 15, 2020 10:00 am
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Didn’t know Patton had something against Georgios Papagiannis. That sucks. At least he’s not Bernard Montgomery.

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December 15, 2020 10:40 am
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At least Monty could break ten seconds in the forty-yard dash.

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December 15, 2020 1:00 pm
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Fair point.

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December 15, 2020 10:29 am

This is actually perfect because we think we have a good line of defense but we tend to forget the other team is already behind us, wreaking havoc.

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December 15, 2020 9:16 am

Masochistic tendencies?

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December 15, 2020 11:09 am
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New band name! Dibs!

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December 15, 2020 9:22 am

I remember when Sacramento “got” the Kings. We became a big city because we had a major sports franchise. It didn’t matter that they weren’t that good (they did make the playoffs with a sub .500 record that year as I recall). Sacramento has always been the stepchild of LA and SF and this was some sort of validation that we were our own city, and weren’t forced to root for some team outside of our city limits. Watching the big markets get every advantage while Sac struggles to get free agents builds a disdain for those big markets coupled with some small dog hope that we can compete, breeds a unique type of fan. A blind loyalty unfettered by ineptitude. Even now, living in Southern California, I will always be first and foremost a Kings fan, with my second favorite team always being whoever is playing against the Lakers. There is cause for hope too. Small markets have found the fleeting rewards of success (the Webber Kings, or the SA run of greatness). When it comes, it is better than anything the big markets experience.

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December 15, 2020 9:30 am

I think it’s so satisfying walking around San Diego with my Kings jerseys and accessories.

Sure some people kinda laugh, but I get a lot of satisfaction knowing how loyal I am to my hometown team. And finding that one other Kings fan down here to commiserate on the everlasting state of our franchise. 👑

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December 15, 2020 10:00 am
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I was on the island of Kauai a few years back just walking down Hanalei in my Kevin Martin jersey when I saw another Kings gear wearing brother. We didn’t say a word and simply high fived as we passed each other.

I love that kind of shit.

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December 15, 2020 11:04 am
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Exactly! I don’t see a lot of sisters down here, most of my friends are into football which I’m not.

But for sure I’ve seen the occasional guy rocking a hat or jersey. Always gotta yell out Kings! Haha

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December 15, 2020 12:38 pm
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A few weeks ago in a Target in Pasadena, some young teen was nodding at me. I wasn’t sure why until he pointed to my shirt and gave a thumbs up. (I was wearing the Young Superteam T-shirt).

Other memories off the top of my head:

Waiting for the train to New York from some middle stop after leaving the airport, I see a guy with a Kings shirt on, so I walk up to him and pull out the Young Superteam t-shirt out of my luggage. The shirt was super new at the time, so I was hoping to impress him. He looked at me suspiciously, as if I was trying to sell him some bootleg items and wasn’t really a Kings fan. I mentioned Ye Olde Site to hopefully let him know I was a true fan, but he didn’t seem like he knew of that site.

Once in Montebello, east of LA I was walking to band practice in a poor neighborhood. I saw a young guy wearing an old Kings jersey. I forget which player, but it was something from the golden era team. I walk up to the guy with my Kings t-shirt on and go for a high-five. But the dude just looks at me weird. I had to point to his jersey and my t-shirt and I think he still didn’t get the connection. I have concluded that this guy found the t-shirt in a dumpster and just needed some clothes.

I’ve worked at sports networks here in LA and met a surprising amount of Sac Kings fans, even in upper positions. That’s always great to see, but I was saddened that they weren’t on this forum.

Whenever someone in LA looks at me and says “Go Kings!” and I know they are obviously mistaking me for an LA Kings fan, I smile and wave at them but secretly cringe inside.

When I was single I always imagined dating a Kings fan would be the ultimate date. I envied those of you who did so. What perfect harmony. Alas, I’ve dated L*kers fans and Celtic fans and it was always in the back of my mind like how Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld can date hot people and still not get over little technicalities.

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December 15, 2020 12:43 pm
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When I was single I always imagined dating a Kings fan would be the ultimate date.

Definitely! It’s best if the date has extremely low expectations and is thrilled by mere competence.

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December 15, 2020 1:01 pm
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Touche’, Andy! Touche’!

hahaha

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December 15, 2020 2:45 pm
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I walk up to the guy with my Kings t-shirt on and go for a high-five. But the dude just looks at me weird.

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December 15, 2020 12:50 pm
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I was walking through a jungle once with a bamboo stick and came across a rhino, and then walked as close as possible towards it, and then watched it take a dump. True story. Endless entertainment value.

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December 15, 2020 9:37 am

I like myself more when I root for bad teams, b/c I know all of you who are here now are the true fans. When/If the Kings turn this around, and you see all these dopes around town in their brand new jerseys and hats, we’ll know who was here in December 2020 when we were on the even of a 20 win season and Christmas wishes for trading bad contracts.

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December 15, 2020 9:40 am

rooting for the Vlade era Kings definitely tested my fanhood. It just felt like saying Safeway is your favorite sushi restaurant just because it’s the closest purveyor of sushi. There was no qualities to appreciate other than proximity and familiarity.

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December 15, 2020 9:52 am
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This brings to mind an important question; have you ever had AM/PM sushi?

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December 15, 2020 9:59 am

That’s a trick question. If he had AM/PM sushi, he’d be dead now. Stop pulling that Common Core stuff here!!

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December 15, 2020 10:02 am
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Sigh.

I’m too old for Common Core, but too young to remember Jason Williamson.

I just can’t win.

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December 15, 2020 10:06 am

Jason Williamson

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December 15, 2020 10:31 am
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Eh. I made a typo. Nobody’s perfect.

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December 15, 2020 10:34 am

I just thought it was a fun portmanteau of former Kings players

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December 15, 2020 10:00 am

I only get hot items at convenience stores. I feel like sitting under a heat lamp for 8 hours makes them relatively safe to eat.

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December 15, 2020 10:33 am
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What’s the worst thing you’ve ever concocted? You know, the idea that, on paper, seemed like it could be good, and then turned out to very much not be?

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December 15, 2020 10:40 am

What’s the worst thing you’ve ever concocted?

Sacramento Kings fandom.

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December 15, 2020 10:41 am

The 2019-20 Kings.

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December 15, 2020 11:22 am

the one thing I used to make is called “steak fry surprise.” It was basically just steak fries, cheese and I bunch of other shit. People would always talk shit until they tried it.

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December 15, 2020 9:57 am

Kings
Chargers
Padres

I don’t try and dig too deeply into why.

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December 15, 2020 10:01 am
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I’m Kings / A’s / Raiders

I need help

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December 15, 2020 10:07 am
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Don’t expect sympathy from me.

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December 15, 2020 10:39 am
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agreed

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December 15, 2020 10:41 am
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Speaking of those dang Clevelanders…..that loss last night was brutal.

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December 15, 2020 10:44 am
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Nah, that’s just another Browns game, really.

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December 15, 2020 10:50 am
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Fair. Brutal, but fair.

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December 15, 2020 11:38 am
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We’re trending in the right direction, though. I am not too worried. Try to get some playoff experience this year, use the draft to strengthen the D next year.

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December 15, 2020 10:21 am
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The Padres feel like a good comparison for the Kings. Must have felt great to see them make the playoffs this year.

Kings
49ers
Giants
Sharks

The Giants have given me that championship feeling and going to the parades were epic experiences. If the Kings ever have a parade, it would be one of those moments you will never forget and cherish. Here is to dreaming.

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December 15, 2020 12:45 pm
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Kings
Bengals
Reds
Buckeyes football
University of Dayton basktball

Other than the Flyers and Buckeyes, it’s been a rough decade.

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December 15, 2020 10:04 am

As we’ve already established, I’m not a real fan. I don’t care about bandwagoners vs diehards. I don’t buy into the tribalistic nonsense. I’m not a gatekeeper. If new fans get excited by a winning team, then I say the more the merrier. I don’t really see tenure of loyalty to a shitty product as some sort of badge of honor. I’ve always been a basketball fan and I’m still more of a basketball fan than a Kings fan. If, Basketba’al forbid, the Kings got contracted, it wouldn’t really change my interest in the sport (though I’d be less engaged due to the lack of this specific community). I got into the Kings because my deeper interest in basketball’s nuances (team-building, prospect scouting, etc.), my college years (UC Davis), and the Kings peak years all happened to coincide chronologically and geographically. And, from a team-building standpoint, the Kings are constantly interesting in one way or another. Now, the strongest part of my connection to the Kings is probably the TKH community.

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December 15, 2020 10:07 am

Cal Poly > Davis

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December 15, 2020 10:13 am
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If they weren’t essentially the exact same place, I’d agree with you.

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December 15, 2020 10:20 am

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December 15, 2020 10:43 am

CalPoly has a beach.

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December 15, 2020 10:34 am

This is the biggest part of my Kings experience right now too.

Now I’m just sitting in anticipation of the TKH Fantasy draft.

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December 15, 2020 2:18 pm

I truly love the game of basketball especially at the NBA level ! I pull for the Kings but love the game more than the team !

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December 15, 2020 10:09 am

The Kings may frustrate me as an organization, but I will never stop being a fan. I grew up in Sacramento and some of my fondest memories growing up were going to a Kings game with my Dad. My first game was in 1994 v the Pacers and I had to ask my Dad who we were rooting for. I was 5 years old and I fell in love with the bonding time I got with my Dad and brother as a kid. I was at the infamous game 7 in 2002, I watched Lebron’s very first game in the NBA, I got to see Michael Jordan play, I got to see the Kings win when I was growing up and as a child I looked forward to going to these games. I would even drive to Oakland and watch the Kings beat the Warriors when it was known as Arco West. My Dad even flies out to Denver every year and we splurge to sit behind the Kings bench so we can listen to time outs, hear the players talk to each other, and just get a fun experience.

My brother, my Dad, and I still love talking Kings basketball. They both have accounts on the herald. As a family we have bonded over the Kings and that will always be with me. The kings have been bad for a long time and I hold onto the memories of them being good and how fun it was for the family. Bad teams eventually become good again, look at the Browns and Bills this year, and that will happen for the Kings eventually. And when they become good again, it is going to be awesome. I am willing to wait and go through the process. Even if they never become a great team, my family bonds over Kings basketball and it is a great excuse to bring the family together.

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December 15, 2020 10:27 am
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As your brother, I completely agree. This team keeps us in constant contact. It can make us frustrated, but we also all have an amazing sense of humor towards it. No matter what, it’s fun, and I thoroughly believe liking this losing team has made it even more fun at times in a kind of self-deprecating way (minus the relocation scare. Zero fun sir). By the way, the reason you went to that game 7 was because your grades were better than mine. I’m still bitter, but only have my 7th grade self to blame.

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December 15, 2020 10:42 am
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Similar to you guys, it’s a family affair for me and I also grew up going to the games. Was lucky enough to go to college in Chico during the Glory years (97-2002) and actually some close friends I met in college from SoCal and other areas became, and are still, Kings fans to this day. Never got to see Jordan but seeing Kobe/Shaq Lakers on Christmas Day was probably the most memorable single game other then the times my parents used to drop my friends and I off on the street outside the arena property and we’d run across the muddy/grassy fields and through the parking lot to purchase our standing room only tickets for $5 to watch Mitch Richmond and Walt Williams and Spud Webb and then towards the end of the game we’d sneak down to the lower section and one time after I called out to Spud he threw me his towel and I thought that was the greatest thing. Yea so today kids get signed sneakers or whatever, but I hung that NBA branded towel up on my wall with pride. This was when they were probably worse off than they are now. But at that time the glory years were right around the corner….

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December 15, 2020 10:17 am

Long Live Jimmer!

At least we aren’t Jets fans….

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December 15, 2020 11:04 am
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I own a €œIt’s Jimmer Time€ t-shirt and still wear it proudly

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December 15, 2020 1:58 pm
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God I’m jealous

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December 15, 2020 10:25 am

OT: This is good.

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December 15, 2020 10:33 am
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Breaking: RORDOG says he’s asking Giannis Antetokounmpo to borrow five dollars.

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December 15, 2020 10:36 am
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The average American worker works 1,768 hours in a year.

Translated into an hourly rate, that means Giannis would make $129,072.40/hr.

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December 15, 2020 10:45 am

Must be nice. I’m happy for Giannis he worked hard and he finally gets to reap the benefits.

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December 15, 2020 11:07 am