The Sacramento Kings have signed Hassan Whiteside to a one-year deal, according to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski.
Free agent center Hassan Whiteside has agreed to a one-year deal with the Sacramento Kings, sources tell ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 25, 2020
James Ham confirmed the news and added that the contract is a league minimum deal.
Confirming that Hassan Whiteside has signed a one-year, league minimum deal with Kings.
— James Ham (@James_HamNBA) November 25, 2020
It’s hard to be too mad about a minimum contract for one year. It’s very much an indication of where Whiteside’s current value is. Although Whiteside averaged 15.5 points, 13.5 rebounds, and 2.9 blocks per game last season, Zach Lowe summed it up well last week when he described Whiteside as a can of Pringles, just empty calories. Whiteside is a big body, he will put up stats, but he hasn’t historically helped his teams as much as the numbers might suggest.
This brings Whiteside’s journey full circle as he was originally drafted in the second round by the Kings in 2010. He spent two unimpressive years with the Kings before leaving the NBA entirely. He spent two years playing overseas before finding his way back to the league and earning a lucrative contract from the Miami Heat.
Sure, the Kings lost Bogi. But it’s ok, we have Hassan Whiteside.
Unibrow would work as the Power Forward Klam!
It’s not OK, we have Whiteside.
Should help the tank. Empty stats guy and a proven loser. Monte knows what he’s doing. Should have signed Cousins on that minimum deal as well.
It is hard for me to buy the “Monte knows what he is doing” line. I honestly don’t know what evidence we have of that yet.
Agreed. Nothing has been out of the box thinking or looks like there is a vision…yet.
What would something like that look like?
Not signing Whiteside.
In fairness, not having a legitimate center on the roster would be outside the box.
He did come from Houston.
To 1 year for the minimum? I mean it’s totally possible you could actually flip him for something of value at the deadline to a contender. I can’t stand Whiteside as a player but this is about the lowest risk move possible.
Paging ArcoThunder!
There’s also the simultaneous line that he’s playing for a high draft pick next year…so if he doesn’t know what he’s doing, does that mean we’re making playoffs!?
The last two seasons, the “proven loser” has substantially improved his teams’ performance (two pretty good teams) while on the floor.
He’s a mixed effort guy, but does impact the floor most nights. Let’s hope he doesn’t play a lot.
That was on two teams with a strong structure, good coaches and strong leaders on the floor. And still he only got a one year, minimum deal. What does that tell you?
Also, we want Bagley to develop with Luke as coach and surrounding him with me-first guys like Whiteside, Parker and Buddy?
And it’s not as if a one year deal gives much opportunity to build his value and flip him for assets.
This is a clear WTF move and Monte is now looking a bit less shiny and wonderful to me. YMMV.
Not sure a one year minimum contract is going to impact in any way how I feel about a GM….
Dearest DeMarcus deserves nothing less than the max.
I mean I can’t stand Whiteside but 1 year at league minimum? Sure, whatever.
Exactly how I feel.
Yeah for sure. Best case scenario, he has a couple big games (he always does), and we’re able to flip him at the deadline for a late 1st to a playoff team desperate for a big. Crazier things have happened, and if it does we’ll look pretty smart. That’s the optimist in me haha
Yeah it would not shock me if he has some value at the deadline to a contender who needs some size to matchup with the Lakers in the playoffs. He played pretty well in couple of those games for the Blazers.
Random fact of the day, the Kings now have more 2nd round picks and undrafted players on the roster than 1st round picks:
FIRST ROUND: 7
Fox, Buddy, Bagley, Hali, Barnes, Joseph, Parker
SECOND ROUND: 8
Whiteside, Nemanja, Holmes, James, Guy, Woodard, Ramsey, Jeffries (undrafted)
Real question: Is that out of the ordinary? I mean, how does it stack up against other teams? Just asking because that doesn’t surprise me, or sound odd. I would think it’s probably pretty normal given the salary cap… No?
I was truly going to give Monte a pass on letting Bogdanovic go. I really was.
But this?
The sum total of Kings activity this off season has been to lose Alex Len, Kent Bazemore, Harry Giles, and Bogdan Bogdanovic, and has managed to backfill those guys with…Hassan Whiteside.
F me, I’m pissed right now.
Tank city baby.
Wow bemoaning the loss of Bazemore is too much. The guy shot 37% FGs and thought he was a Top 10 NBA scorer. You can’t win with high volume bricklayers even if they are high energy on the other end. At the best you have a net neutral player. DaQuan Jeffries is the better younger player and our GM duly noted and acted on this.
Preach
I’m really high on Jeffries also. I think he’s going to surprise a lot of people.
I think Woodard has more upside than Jeffries.
People are really sleeping on DaQuan. Based on the eye test (which I know is bullshit) he seems to be solid every time he’s on the court. Okay shooter, decent defender, super athletic, and doesn’t make mistakes. Not bad for an undrafted guy
I’m glad we gave DaQuan DaQualifying offer.
The bigger issue is per Sam Amick that this Whitesise signing is Vivek still meddling and playing GM ! Where have you gone Pete D !
I want to believe Monte has a solid plan but I can’t understand the angle of this signing. He is not a mentor or positive influence on young players. He does not have good work ethic. He doesn’t make us a better team. If he plays his impact will only be negative on the development or chemistry of players we want to keep. If he does not play (or hardly), what is the purpose? I would rather take a flier on a young player with potential. Please help me understand…
Pb/Ag lining – perhaps it’s a trade deadline chip for another 2nd rounder or another asset to help us move in the top 3 next draft.
We can only hope.
I don’t think he would be an asset based on name alone, based on the deal he just fetched in free agency. So if he is somehow a trade asset, I would assume that means he is playing. Which would suck for us as fans.
There will be a contender who gets a serious injury to their big man and will be willing to trade a pick or young player who isn’t getting playing time for Whiteside as a stopgap. The same way Portland traded for him when Nurkic went down
That, to me, is the only upside scenario of this signing. I just wish it came along with a player who brought a better attitude and work ethic.
This pick wreaks of desperation. Whiteside was the last 5 available in free agency. Before that we had Holmes; who I like , and Bagley; who isn’t really a 5 and hasn’t played much due to injuries. Monte had to bring in a body to fill out the front court roster. Enter Hassan Whiteside. I’m totally unimpressed. We should have kept Len.
From what I’ve heard the Kings tried to re-sign Len but he ultimately chose the Raptors. Not gonna blame the guy though. If I’m offered the same amount of money, I’d choose the Raptors over the Kings. Probably the only way Len re-signs if we overpay a little bit.
I’ll give a little bit of props to Monte for not overpaying role players who does not move the needle that much for the Kings. i mean it’s not like Whiteside was #1 on their list. I’ve seen reports where they were interested on some free agents and they just didn’t sign with us. I guess Whiteside was their plan C or plan D and was the only one who accepted the minimum that was offered by the Kings.
Jesus, one year on a minimum and everyone acts like the whole future is in jeopardy.
If you thought the team was going to run fast breaks while depending on Holmes and Bjelica to secure rebounds, that would not be ideal.
And if he steps out of line one time you can cut him. I hate watching him play basketball but this is pretty minimal in the grand scheme of things.
Bingo!
Back to your point in another thread…does anyone think the Kings are making the playoffs this year?
If any of my comments in other places have ever suggested that the Kings had hope of making the playoffs, I was either hacked, or in the midst of a severe blackout.
No no.. I was agreeing with a previous question by you to me asking if I thought the Kings could even sniff the playoffs this year.
In any event, I may have been blacked out.
Wait, so you think Whiteside is going to help the team run fast breaks? Is that a good thing at this point?
You’re suggesting another year of Lose Walton walk-it-upcourt would be better than playing fast?
I disagree.
“Whiteside” and “playing fast” do not belong in the same discussion.
fast breaks don’t require all 5 guys to lead the break.
And there you have it. All he needs to do is get it to a guard and haul ass to get a putback, if necessary.
And protect the rim on a break the other way, which he does far better than anyone else on the team, maybe ever.
But they require your big man to outlet pass.
Does Whiteside like to bring the ball up the court? I’m trying to think of his game but can’t conjure any memories. Maybe it’s just unremarkable.
No, that’s Buddy’s job.
ducks
They miss Dewayne Dedman
And WCS as well I guess. At least he knew he couldn’t shoot a three.
I mean, if you don’t want to win games, Holmes/Bagley/Bjelly sounds like an elite frontcourt to me.
Yeah, I’m sensing a mixed message here from some of the regulars.
Oy:
We’re back to this stuff again.
My apologies. It only seems like everyone because of the histrionics.
I see more mentions of histrionics than actual histrionics.
There are some people who disagree with you, and I know you tend to confuse the two.
I see outright condemnations of a guy who has been on the job for a couple of months, and is tasked with untangling the radioactive shit-web that VD left behind. Does that seem warranted, particularly in light of adding a serviceable center on a one-year minimum contract? Is this “it” for the organization?
“Outright condemnations?” I think that is quite a bit of a stretch. I’m on record that I’m not impressed so far, especially when it comes to this Whiteside signing, but I haven’t seen anything to the level of which you mention.
Otis said there were people that disagreed with me, so my reply wasn’t about you specifically.
But seriously, read some of these posts, you’d think they’d made Lose Walton the GM-for-Life.
Just looked it up, an 8 year vet’s minimum salary is $2.3M
Obviously the worst signing ever. This alone will cause the Kings to lose all their draft picks.
I wonder, has there been a lower deal for a FA under age 32, who just averaged a double double (15pts/13reb for Hassan) on a playoff team, without any injury. In recent history of course. Hmmm. I can’t think of any similar examples.
Yeah but the NBA FO pays part of the salary. I think the Kings pay 1.62 mill or something like that. According to some guy named Larry, it’s the 2 year league minimum they owe Whiteside, the league FO pays the rest. Which is 700-750K. I’m not doing math today.
Dumb!!
LeTank Whiteside
The Frenchification of his name took me by surprise.
𤠅same
A great addition to help with the tank. Next up, trading Richaun Holmes, who is actually a solid player who can help win games and that simply will not do for this years team.
We should totally win 32 games this year. Maybe we can grab the #10 pick.
I love Richaun, but no one is above being moved.
Welcome back to hell big fella!
People ask, “Why are you a Kings fan?” For moments like this my friend, for a moment like this…
I’m pretty sure, if I ever get a hug from another Kings Herald member, I would just burst into tears and sob out the last 14 years of frustration.
(Virtual hug)
Yes! Bring on the tank!
Fans: DO SOMETHING!
Monte: Hold my beer.
Marty After Monte does something:I’m sensing that tanking is going to be difficult for some to accept.
Seriously, no shit.
Comment for the win!
I feel the Tank, but I still want to watch an entertaining and hustling basketball team…
Give Tyson Chandler a retirement contract to mentor our one young big.
Or young guys to compete, where are your guys McNair?
Hartenstein? Gimme some Zhou Qi!
I’ve been pushing for Hartenstein since the Rockets cut him.
Nuggets looking at him with no backup 5 behind Jokic, so we’ll see his real talent this year while we play Whiteside
No true Centers behind Jokic, but 4 guys 6’10 and taller. Porter, Bol, Vonleh, Nnaji.
YES! You can tank without signing old washed players who want minutes.
Exactly. Why not a young player who is happy to be there, with a good attitude, who pushes his teammates in practice and wants to work harder than everybody else just so they can stay on? Give me that guy all day over a pouty, lazy, entitled player who “just wants to get his 2k rating up.”
Well we DID have DJ Wilson coming in, but our ineptitude to perform any normal basketball functions shows up to bite us again.
Come on. Nobody knowns why that Bogi sign and trade failed.
99% sure it was his snake of an agent.
I agree, which is why we can’t blame Monte or anybody else in the FO for it.
I don’t get this line of thinking. The trade could not have been completed without Bogi agreeing to the contract at some point. The ATL contract ballpark amount was mentioned around that time too, so I don’t think that deal was going to happen at a number that MIL was comfortable with.
Supposedly Milwaukee was gonna pay BB8 a certain amount of $ that they could only pay him if they traded Bledsoe to the Kings. Once they traded Bledsoe to NO, they couldn’t pay BB8 as much as they said they’d pay him.
Yeah that’s what I heard from KOC on one of the Ringer NBA podcasts.
The sad part: One can make a fairly solid case that this in the top 5 most high profile free agent signings in Kings history. I’m gonna need a spare liver.
Just here for the comments
I would have preferred they just gave the roster spot to Chimezie Metu and embraced a full youth movement.
Signing Whiteside signals to me the Kings are still trying to tread water in the West. I mean, what is the point?
Metu is the perfect target. Whiteside is the opposite.
He looks like a very good prospect, bouncy, well-coordinated.
We had DJ Wilson coming in, but we KANGZed a sign-and-trade so that’s what we get.
It’s. a. YEAR.
Excellent. Maybe the 2022 draft is as loaded as the 2021. Looking forward to the 10th pick next time around.
Do you really believe that anyone thinks that Whiteside is the difference between the lottery and the eighth seed?
We signed a young guy who likely can’t contribute much this year. Whiteside is on a one-year contract. Do you not see any point in having one serviceable center on the roster when the season starts?
But, but… Kings have Holmes. Isn’t he a serviceable center?
Well, no. He’s small at center, and like Whiteside, hasn’t been able to stretch the floor. HW gives us the opportunity to not be out-rebounded every game, and at worst, spends seventy-games on the team.
On a sidenote, I think Holmes will become a decent three-point shooter. He really has a nice touch on his free throws, and makes a good percentage of them.
He needs to rebuild his shot to be consistent from 3. He has nice touch, but he has a brutal hitch in his shot that has actually gotten worse since his Sixers days.
How many minutes will he need to not become a locker room distraction? 20 per game? This is a really, really bad look.
Just imagine when both he and Buddy start complaining. That cancer can spread.
If this is a move where we hope to flip him at the deadline for a 2nd rounder then that means
A) He’s getting consistent minutes to show his value
B) Less minutes for Holmes and Bagley
C) I bet no one trades for him and he gets cut anyway for the pre-playoff buyout market. Lose-Lose situation
It’s a one year deal which means he has a no trade clause. It’s trade him to a contender or cut to unload him
There will be plenty of distractions with the horrible coaching. Throw in the complaining from Buddy before the trade deadline. I doubt Hassan becomes the biggest complainer in the locker room.
But, Hassan does have some powerful veteran insights that can help the kids make sense of this crazy world:
https://twitter.com/youngwhiteside/status/147094184115974144
He’s also the victim of one of the great NBA Twitter burns of all time…
Ever since then his plus minus has been good. Maybe it was a wake up call!
Just about any reaction to this signing is an overreaction.
I wish I had stopped reading at this wise take.
I don’t know about that because I would pencil him for about 20-25 MPG, he may even be our starting center.
So a lame duck year where we tank for a high pick during a stacked 2021 draft. Walton will be gone. Halliburton will develop. Test Bagley again. Try to get interest in Buddy trade. Then start rebuild in 2022.
With new head coach
It’ll be another Covid affected season anyways
Ew!
Until proven otherwise, this (to me) has Ranadive stench all over it.
Ship him out to a “contender” that needs a big at the deadline and I’ll change my mind.
That’s why he was available to us on the most minimum contract available, because the contending teams forgot or something.
Whiteside doesn’t need to do anything other than rebound, block shock shots, and not be a pain in the ass. His record shows that he can do the first two, we’ll see about the last one.
There wasn’t much else out there, so on a one year minimum this isn’t that bad.
There is always more out there. The Kings could use that money and roster spot on a young player from the G-League or who went undrafted. The Kings could have nabbed Killian Tillie before the Grizz did.
Why the hell did McNair wait until now!!??
Yeah, he really should have made a play on day one for Anthony Davis or another all-star caliber big. What a maroon. Future destroyed.
Histrionics, indeed
WTF is this nonsense?
I guaranteee all those face-palming this signing did not see Hassan play more than 2-3 games last year. I applaud this signing.
Do you know how we become a pathetic laughingstock this season, again? By asking Marvin to anchor a defense at the 5, and guard the likes of Jokic, Zubac, Marc Gasol and other huge centers in the West.
For the good of Marvin Bagley, let him guard PFs most of the time, and do not ask him to anchor a defense in the paint, this signing allows that.
The way you evaluate this signing is ask: Is Whiteside better than Len? Thats debateable, I will say Whiteside is a little better. The minutes he will get are the minutes he’s scheduled to take ahead of or behind Holmes.
I like the idea of Whiteside starting with Holmes as high energy off the bench.
Next, Whiteside is a mechanical deliberate low post scorer, easily stripped and ineffective. So what do you do if you are smart coach? You limit his touches to one per game, throw the do a bone so to speak to keep him engage.
His other weakness is defending the pick and roll. Teams will try to pull him away from the paint and force switch .
But I would rather have a big who can defend in one area in the paint (and not away from the hoop) then a player all the Kings fans were crying about losing who can defend neither in the paint or on the perimeter and that players name is Harry Giles.
Welcome to the team, Hasaan!
You cannot guarantee that.
For someone who supposedly watched him play so much I am a tad surprised you don’t know how to spell his name.
The fans are complaining about a guy who is an elite shot blocker and rebounder and bemoaning the loss of a guy who offered zero resistance in the paint or the perimeter in Harry Giles. Something about that does not add up.
You could not keep Harry on the floor bc he was consistently abused on defense, in the paint and perimeter. Yet the fans were apocalytpic over his loss but adding a guy who average 2.9 blocks per game is perplexing and misguided?
It is absurd on the surface to anyone with objectivity. And I readily awknowledge the weaknesses of Whiteside:
But weighing the pros and cons, this is very good signing to replace Alex Len.
I think some are just trying to understand the direction of the FO right now.
I think this team is better with Whiteside on the roster. Is that a good thing? I’m confused.
Because 8 seed, baby. LET’S GO!!!
/sobbing in the corner
If Hassan Whiteside were so good, he woulda signed for more than the minimum. He’s not changing the lottery odds for this Kings team IMO.
Ah, you want a guarantee…
What a fascinating admission.
kings4ever said
I mean to say that no, that isn’t true. Should have used a quote
But did you see Whiteside play more than two or three times last year?
Yes, because I watch an unhealthy amount of NBA basketball. And no, not just the Kings, because that would be unbearable.
Yeah, I wouldn’t wish that on you. Self-care is more important than ever.
Ok lol I cannot guarantee it, it was a figure of speech and your contention does not address the heart of my post.
The disike of Hassan is rooted in the aloofness and his personality , a sort of loner and malcotent was the reputation he developed. This perception stuck with him and it was frankly earned.
When he was with the Heat, he was unhappy with his role and wanted more touches, he did not like the way he was used by Spoelstra. He fancied himself as Embiid and a 25/15 player.
He was Willie-esque in this regard, delusional in his scoring prowess. To his credit though, Whiteside did go on a stat producing terror before he was hampered by injuries. He was dominant for stretches that earned him his big contract.
I am not defending him bc if I had my way, I would have probably chosen Alex Len, but compared to underachievers like Willie and Harry Giles, and the other FA players available, Whiteside is the far more accomplished and proven.
This is the context in which the “doomers” are bemoaning his addition.
Adding a guy who gets 3 blocks per game is kind of sweet, get the ball to Fox or Halli, get out in transition with MB3 flling the lane, get the quick hitting 3s from Buddy, that is the vision are GM has. I can’t complain about that relative to the options available.
We were pretty crappy rebounding team too, and Whiteside will carve out space to get the boards or allow others to swoop in and get them. He’s also tough to move off the block defending the paint. He’s Alex Len with more shot blocking prowess and more sour disposition. I am okay with that.
Apologies for my douche-y response.
Your comments are fair. I am not concerned about his on court production especially in the context of his minor contract. As stated above somewhere else, I just wish that spot would have been used on a younger player who brings something positive to the culture of this team, or at least neutral, as opposed to what I view as a step in the wrong direction. We don’t need more drama here in Sacramento.
I think that the on court stuff is mute because this team should be a tank anyway and he will not be here in the future.
No worries. I had a thorough reply then my computer froze and I lost it.
I will say this, you cannot talk about culture and simultaneously intend to lose, that is not the nature of competition. You do not become sucessful in the future by quitting in the present.
The new lotto odds are prohibitive against the Top 3 pick relative to what they were, and you have the play-in tournament as a 9th or 10th seed, that is a viable goal for our Kings if all falls into place.
Justin Jackson was the type of player you advocate for, agreeable and pleasant. One problem, he couldn’t play. We have too many nice guys, not enough nasty. I was a fan of Bogi, but too nice. Bjelica, too nice. Our coach, too nice too mellow. Justin James and Kyle Guy, too nice. Barnes way too friggin nice to the point of annoying.
Holmes, mean fiery streak. Same with Fox, Bagley to a degree. The collective personality of this team needs to get more chippy and feisty. Having Whiteside is neutral to favorable in this regard. He is a big dude who refuses to get bullied.
Now if he moans and sulks and stops giving the requisite effort for whatever reason, he’s going to the end of the bench. If that doesn’t remedy the situation, he gets waived. I doubt it comes to this.
At 31, Whiteside can try to play for one more contract for like 2/20 or 3/30. I would think he would motivated in this regard and that means playing his role, playing to his strength or not being a distraction in the lockerroom.
I stopped reading at smart coach.
I said “if you are a smart coach”. Did I say Walton was a smart coach?
I don’t think Walton is particularly smart FYI.
I don’t get why this is a perplexing move at all. It’s a one year/minimum deal. It’s not like we’re hunting for the playoffs this coming season. Like Zach Lowe said, he’s pretty much just another body to throw out there. Considering the fact that we lost Alex Len and Harry Giles. Another thing of note, he can put up stats and his minimum deal is easy to trade meaning we can flip him to a contender at the trade deadline for a first rounder.
Thank you for being sensible. Agreed wholeheartedly.
Agree Timmy.
LOL, the Kings are not getting a first rounder for Whiteside.
At the least he’s filler for a trade. At most he could be flipped for a future super late first or 2nd rd. pick.
If it was a 2 yr deal or beyond, I will absolutely be the first one to raise my pitchfork. But a one year deal is just meh and shouldn’t really concern us.
What are you people smoking!!! No one will give us a first rounder or even a high second for him. Please!!!!!
Effort and off court drama aside, he has helped every team he has played on. This is a low risk/low reward player for us and a low risk/potentially high reward player for contending teams who need help down low fighting either AD/KAT/Ayton.
Yep I agree.
Yikes. This thread.
The guy is making $2 million over one season. The team is going to suck this year with or without him. And Monte needs to fill out the roster with the little cap space he has left.
Why is this signing anything more than an eh who cares?
The “something more” is “are we tanking?”
Do you feel that Hassan Whiteside will be the kind of difference-maker who will take us from a bottom-five record to the eighth seed?
Or is it that anyone McNair signs older than 25 is destroying the grand plan?
There’s a wide variety of outcomes between bottom-five and eight seed, Andy. That’s my only concern.
I’m just trying to understand the concept here – it feels like McNair wants to win this season. And I assume Walton wants to win, and I’m thinking guys like Fox, Holmes, etc. want to win.
If we’re tanking, I’d rather be bottom-five than bottom eight-through-ten.
I just don’t think he’s going to make that kind of impact. Game to game, possible, but not for long stretches, and not for the season.
did McNair say something that gave you this impression, or do you really get this idea from the offseason moves so far? I don’t see it.
As I mentioned in the Bogdanovic thread, all I want to see is a likable, competitive Kings team that steadily improves through competent decision making.
This…is not that.
Will be nice to have my go to fantasy player on the Kings. Got to look on the bright side.
This is a very good move in my opinion. The kings have zero center depth, and they are getting a guy who still put up 16/13/3 on a MINIMUM 1 year deal. I don’t care how empty his stats are, that is a tremendous deal. If he shows any signs of life, this is an EASILY tradeable contract.
The Kings should have a few goals:
1) Retain financial flexibility – CHECK
2) Play your rookies + Bagley and Fox lots of minutes – CHECK
3) Have assets that are POTENTIALLY flippable to contenders into more picks (Whiteside, Buddy, Bjelica, Joseph, Holmes, Barnes) – CHECK
4) Build a team that, if they win, will be because Fox/Bagley and the rookies drove that success playing heavy minutes. Otherwise, we lose and get a top pick in 2021. -CHECK
I think both this move and moving on from Bogdan are aligned with the goals highlighted above. So I’m all about it!
And you don’t want Bagley having to guard bigger centers or anchor a defense. This signing enables that. Bagley’s progression and Hali’s are the most important on the team if we are going to go anywhere this season.
Can Bagley guard anyone?
Hope so, we’ll find out soon enough.
CHECK
The Pringles reference is so good, also so sad
It may be apt, but ho doesn’t love Pringles?
It’s hard to be bothered by a bench big signing a one-year deal for minimum. Now let’s see if he can pull off deals that move Joseph, Parker, Barnes & Hield.
Yeah the only thing I really care about is who is on the team after the trade deadline. If all these dudes are still here then I would be worried. If most of them are gone, for a few assets then mission accomplished this season.
Yea if they were expiring and still on the team after the deadline, then I will judge Monte and give him the fair due and vice versa.
When do we start rolling in the tanks (gif)?
I will be an audience member in a few years. No reason to watch this team; just pay your bills for the arena.
Monte McNair is the answer? Something tells me he is the Hassan Whiteside of GM’s.
After 1 week of activity and no games played?
He also didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Nice addition as a backup big at a minimum contract. All we had was Bagley, B-Jelly and Holmes as our big men. Maybe throw in Barnes but that’s it. Kings desperately needed to shore up that position. Kings don’t have any trade assets aside from B-Jelly and Holmes, so they couldn’t make a trade work aside from taking on bad contracts or trading off picks. This is a good deal. No idea why everyone is complaining.
Come on Monte McNair sign Rondae Hollis Jefferson
Nah fam, I ain’t mad about that it’s a one year deal. The tank is on a roll folks, buckle up!
I don’t understand the hate. We have a decent big who can rebound and block shots, something we desperately need, and on a one year contract. The Kings are definitely better with him even if you think he’s a stat grabber. stats are stats and 15/13/2 is commendable. Now you say, he’s a cancer. Well, It’s only one year, and we have some spots left. Speaking of spots, any word on Lamine Diane?
McNair is the Hassan Whiteside of GM’s. No reason to watch this team; an empty arena no matter the COVID issue.
Get back to me in 5 or so years after you have set a record never to be broken… playoff drought. C’mon Kings you can make 20! Or will they go full Joe Dimaggio?
Just think the team they are tied with were kicked out of two cities before settling in LA. Buffalo and San Diego had too much pride to put up with this incompetence.
Uh what does relocation that took place before Monte was born have to do with this?
I like how you start every reply with “McNair is the Hassan Whiteside of GM’s.”
History matters.
I start out that way in that he IS as described. High quality coaches and players have no interest coming here… yet people believe high quality GM’s wish to come here.
The Kings are what they are… the Washington Generals.
So youve accepted that the Kings are perennial losers.
With acceptance youve reached the last stage of grief, congratulations.
We actually have some excellent coaches on staff this year, other than the moron head coach.
The “history” you addressed Bill2455, if you can really call it that (which you can’t because it lacks a little thing called historical context), has everything to do with absolutely nothing.
Don’t forget to give us a heads up when you come back in five years. I hope this half-decade is simply dynamite for you.
We just needed a big man with experience and a face.
Experience–check
Face–check
I do not understand the negativity on Whiteside. He’s been dominant more often than not and is a defensive presence this soft roster has nothing close to. Great signing.
If Whiteside wasn’t a cancer in just about every locker room he’s been in, he wouldn’t have been available. There is a reason he signed a 1yr/min deal.
Am I the only one who thinks this is a trade deadline move? I’m sure some contender will need a big, either due to injuries or better match up. Might help us get a 2nd rounder or two. If not, it’s just a one year minimum deal. Because if the front office sees him as anything more, they would’ve locked him up on a multi year deal considering how low the cost is at the moment. Or it could even be a favor to the agent. In any case, it’ll be in his best interest to stay locked in to get a bigger paycheck next year. If he decides to go full buddy, shouldn’t be hard to get him off the team.
It’s possible he could get moved, but on a one-year minimum, it really doesn’t matter.
This is bad
I’ll repost this from a couple days ago:
I’ll steal this from the KHTK guys this am: if we don’t match Bogi, and then go sign a load like Hassan Whiteside, that means the Ranadive boys are more involved than they should be.
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Love how Kings fans, of all people, call him a loser, when most of his career has been with Heat and Blazer playoff teams. Also, last time I checked, the Pacific Division centers were Davis, Gasol, Ayton, Wiseman. Huge dudes. Good luck getting a stop with Bagley, Holmes, Bjelly. Oh yeah, and league minimum. Go Monte.
I was ready to hate this signing but at 1 year and league minimum…I don’t. I actually think it’s a good signing on those terms.
There are not many players that I like less than Whiteside, but even I can’t get mad at a one year minimum deal. The Kings needed a bench big and they got one on the cheap. If he winds up playing too much, that’s on Walton…another one of my non-favorites.
That’s the concern though, Walton’s probably going to focus on winning games this season. I don’t think there’s any concern over Whiteside’s contract, it’s whether he’ll bring any wins (and whether that’s a good or bad thing).
Forgive me, but the fear of Whiteside winning games for the Kings is not exactly going to keep me up nights.
Well, I’d hope not!
Seriously though, what if having Whiteside is the difference of winning 1-2 games more than if we had signed a young project. Those 1-2 wins might equate to 2-3 draft spots.
Portland chose to let Whiteside go and they replaced him with Giles. I just wanted to like the players this year while we tanked, I can’t stand Whiteside.
Old farts like you need your beauty rest!
We watched Walton’s tape. The jury is out. I don’t see how Waltons coaching will help win games. He has done nothing to prove it besides coaching a stacked warriors team. He can focus all he wants but unless things change on how he coaches, his demise is inevitable.
Whiteside coming to the Kings is negligible in terms of wins. He won’t move the needle much if any or any other FA at this point. Sure, they can catch lightening in a bottle with a FA. But the odds of that happening are slim. Wouldn’t sweat it.
The best thing that he can do if he wants to keep his job is to do nothing other than sit in the first chair, and let his many qualified assistants call the shots. I don’t even want him talking to the players.
But he won’t, and away he’ll go.
He has counting stats and is on the minimum for a year. Its more than conceivable he could fetch a 2nd come the deadline, especially if some injuries take places for title chasers, or someone is lacking size. Or be just cut. This is nothing.
Whiteside is an upper echelon NBA center. Do you people watch basketball?
I wonder why an upper echelon NBA center winds up signing a 1 yr. minimum contract deal with an almost certain lottery team.
You people.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Hard to fathom the angst projected by some on here over this. It’s min deal. It seems Whiteside’s reputation or attitude extremely color evaluations of him as a player. In 2000 minutes, the Blazers were a +2/3 net rating with him on the floor. In 1500 minutes with him off they were -5 net rating. That’s not a pure coincidence or small sample size. He has a net positive rating with almost all player combos with the Blazers last year, including ones without Dame. Is he a classic 15/13/3 worth stats guy…no. But there are no other available big men that have the ability to replicate anything like those ratings or traditional stats.
For the min there should be zero complaints. He is here to “eat innings” because somebody has to and should be relatively positive on the floor when on it. If he is an ass off it, then it is quite easy to cut him. I don’t see the risk.
Also, if Bagley is thrown off by the sheer presence/”mentor” of Whiteside, then Bagley is not what we all hope him to be anyway, so it doesn’t matter.
Mostly agree, but if he is valuable why would Portland not re-sign him and pick up Giles? They think they have enough in Nurkic maybe?
Maybe Nurkic and and Whiteside replicate the same type of player in a way with sheer size, although Nurkic way better and skilled obviously. Take a flier on Giles since they have Collins and Nurk in front of him now.
I don’t know if I would argue either that he is “valuable”, but for what they paid and the current roster that McNair inherited, I think it’s fine.
More upside with Giles than Whiteside. At this point Whiteside is what he is.
I suppose that a guy who’s 22 really does have more upside than a 31 year-old. It’s all theoretical, but sure.
You’re so close to answering your own query:
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Not sure the point…Are you saying fans that are upset with this is because he is going to playing minutes? Taking time from other possible players? I get the concern but as long as Bagley is playing 30 mins, for the Kings future it doesn’t matter if any other big on this team has reduced minutes.
Whiteside is better than Giles or Len. So we just got a little better at backup center and have a big body for defensive matchups.
I haven’t read any comments yet but I suspect I’ll be in the minority as liking this deal. Minimum contract, one year. If he can be a 14/10 player with a couple blocks a game, I’m happy. If he turns out to be a puts, cut him loose. He’s gotta know that he’s running out of opportunities in this league. I say welcome him aboard with guarded optimism.
Putz
Nice save, boychik.
The only thing that this team has proven capable of defending over the years is optimism. In fact, they have been shut down defenders.
So I logged in with every intent on ragging on this pick-up. Then I saw one year minimum and I thought…well? Maybe Len wasn’t interested in signing? Is Whiteside worst than alex Len on the floor? Well, no…not really. With Len gone do I want a true rim protector to keep me from throwing stuff at my tv on the defensive end. Yeah for sure. So I’m not too pissed. Brake glass in case of Holmes injury for league minimum and make practice difficult on the guards. Sounds ok
BEST SIGNING!! The Kings needed a big and got one for CHEAP!
Now let’s sign Jason Thomson and start the old Kang’s re-rebuild.
What’s Nik Stauskas up to these days?
James Ham panned this deal. Lets think abt that. He is literally paid to be the Kings mouthpiece. He is part of the propaganda machine. And he panned this signing.
Well, ol’ Ham ain’t what he used to be.
He’s Vivek’s mouthpiece, not Monte’s. If this means Monte is going against Vivek’s thinking, we should all be hopeful. As far as Ham, he likely resents Monte putting a stop to his leaks. Monte probably even floated him the Pacers/Bogi story to motivate the Hawks into giving him something, which hung Ham out to dry. Ham’s job just got a lot harder and he knows it. And a petty panning like this reflects that. Go Monte.
There isn’t much I need Ham for unless I just want my NBA/Kings news 10 minutes slower than Woj or Shams
Chimezie Metu!
Gesundheit!
Now go out and sign Glen Robinson III on a cheap 2 year dealand you might actually have as good, or better, squad than last year. Not sure if that’s a good thing or not.
PG same or better (Fox better with 1 more year of age)
SG same or worse (losing Bogi, but gaining Hali and happy Buddy is possibly better Buddy)
SF same or better (GR3 backing up Barnes better than Baze and younger)
PF better (assuming a healthy Bagley)
C better (Whiteside>Len)
Buddy doesn’t seem happy.
He’s probably low-key happy he doesn’t have to continue to compete against and get beat out by a Euro.
Go ‘Murica, I mean Bahamas!
He got paid…..he’ll be fine.
I was wondering how long it would take for some to turn. Whiteside is a big body at the vet minimum. If this kills you good luck, there will be more that frustrates you to come. He is a big that can block and get boards, puts the ball through the hoop and has a contract that is zero risk/no cost. It sounds like a good deal to me. He can ride the bench and it won’t matter.
Bagley is trending on twitter for playing a great game…Marcus Bagley, so close enough : )
I’m fully ready for Marcus to climb the mocks this year and watch TKH in full melt down arguments at the proposition of the Kings having both Bagleys.
Great signing! Finally got a big that will get boards and protect the rim at a bargain.
Name a more effective stealth tank move than handing Hassan Whiteside to Luke Walton…
Damn, Hassan just coming here to chase a ring.
doesn’t REALLY love us
Richard Holmes and the fight in him is now my favorite King.
HOLD ON.
I love Auto Wrong.
Richaun…
Its a decent signing as Whiteside could be a useful part of a trade, no matter how small the return. A rookie/young player is not likely to do the same at the trade deadline.
Perhaps Monte and co don’t have faith in any of the young bigs available turning into anything.
It’s a one year minimum deal, that’s great value. Plus he’s not taking minutes from anyone, all we have is Bjelica, Bagley and Holmes, two of whom probably don’t stick around anyway. Unless Bagley put on some weight I don’t want him at the 5.
I guess I’m not happy because this signing, along with difficulty trading Buddy and Barnes, keeps us stuck between play in spot and worst in the league.
I hoped for a greater chance at Cade but we seem to be in the same place as always, except with a new lottery pick who was projected top 6 but went 12, in Haliburton.
I’ll say though, I don’t think (and dearly hope) Monte is same old same old, as Whiteside in the past would have been a three year contract for 27 mil, with a partial guarantee in year three.
So I will see what else unfolds this season to see what his master plan is.
I actually don’t hate this, and mostly it has to do with giving Bagley a chance to be good as a long term solution at the five.
Whiteside can provide Bagley a guy to practice against that can really test his skills. If he is going to succeed as a full time five, he needs to be able to use his speed and craft to overcome bigger bodies. Well, no one is bigger than Hassan and he is the closest facsimile to an elite center you are going to get for a one year minimum.
In the mean time, Whiteisde can pick up big assignments and as Bagleys body is not ready yet to do that full time.
Besides, if Whiteside plays well, he can be flipped to another team for value. If he plays or acts poorly, he can be cut for minimal cost. Yeah, he’s a meathead, but he isn’t without upside.
This is a good move by the Kings. Whiteside filled a void that was sorely lacking. How many times last year did you guys complain about the Kings not having a shot blocker or consistent rebounder in the middle. McNair signs such a player that has proven numbers in those categories (for the NBA minimum and 1 year contract no less) and you guys still aren’t satisfied. That’s puzzling.
For me, I’m not happy with the roster because it feels like we are stuck in limbo- unable to get to that final playoff spot, but not among the worst so our lottery picks aren’t likely to be top 3. We have pushed for the playoffs these last two seasons but it’s a huge uphill battle this season.
As we are, the lineup is the same, except Whiteside replaces Len and Haliburton replaces Bogi.
If by some miracle Vlade was right and Bagley turns into something special, having Whiteside could be helpful for a playoff push. But that’s a lot to put on a 3rd year player who has missed more games than he’s played.
So by itself, I’m not mad at this transaction. But overall it doesn’t feel like it pushes us to the playoffs, nor does it push for a youth movement in the sense of making us worse for greater lottery odds- we are just stuck.
I may be mistaken but if I’m not I believe that if your a big and your name is not Marvin you don’t have a contract for next season.
Starting 5 actually isn’t too bad:
Fox
Buddy
Barnes
Bagley
Whiteside
Backups are more sketch and go with more development or more towards winning:
Cojo/Hali
Hali
Jefferies/Woodard
Belly
Holmes
The backup SF is the biggest ? so I wouldn’t mind seeing our ~9mil MLE get offered to MKG as that backup defensive SF specialist
Great signing by GM Ranadive !
I don’t mind this signing. Gives us a big that can defend like none of our other bigs can.
I don’t think he is a signing expected to turn the needle. I think he is a signing so that we have a competent base level team. Starting a new system. It takes time, however you still need to set up the foundations so the young team can somewhat grow and develop, rather than thrown to the wolves this year.
Markets like L.A. can do that, we can’t. We shall still rack up the L’s, however if we do it with a system in place, then the team built around fox can continue to progress step by step.
Probably a poor example, based on the talent of the team, however I remember OKC being like that. I think it was 08-09 OKC with Durant and Westbrook. They barely had 20 wins. Next season, the picked up Harden/Ibaka and jumped into 50s.
If the draft is really that stacked next year…who knows…2-3 decent drafts in a row can set us up. I have more faith that the F.O. appears to be making ‘calculated risks’.
It’s a one year deal for the minimum. Guys need to chill. He ain’t part of the core.
Feels like a Vlade fill in the roster kind of signing for me. Same old game being played in Sacramento.
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