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The Redemption of Marvin Bagley

Sacramento's backup big man is finally playing within his skill set.
By | 80 Comments | Dec 9, 2021

Credit: Kelley L Cox-USA TODAY Sports

For the majority of his career Marvin Bagley has struggled to establish and accept a meaningful role in Sacramento. After a rookie season that held so much promise, as well as actual accountability from Dave Joerger, the past two years have seen Marvin given plenty of opportunities when healthy, with little positive production.

Whether it was trying to rescue a once-promising player’s career, an ill-advised attempt to increase trade value, or simple desperation for talent, over the last couple of years the Kings have done nothing more than encourage bad habits from a lifetime of Bagley being the biggest fish in much smaller ponds. When he’s played, he’s started, whether it was deserved or not. When the ball met his hands, it rarely left, often leading to poorly planned isolation attempts that ended in nothing more than missed shots. Bagley’s been gifted minutes that were unearned, and his apathy toward passing the ball or playing defense was met with a blind eye and a long leash. And the results were as unsurprising as they were poor.

This season has been different. Marvin was demoted from starter to out of the rotation to start the year, perhaps more out of pettiness from an annoyed organization than out of true competitive spirit, but whether that action woke up a former lottery selection, or whether a young player finally realized his career was looking a lot shorter than he ever imagined, Marvin Bagley has changed for the betterment of himself and his team.

Over his first three years, Marvin was one of the most egregious offensive black holes in the league. As a rookie, he posted the second-worst assist-to-usage ratio in the NBA. His second season saw him rank third-worst. Last year, he recorded the fourth-worst assist-to-usage ratio among any player who played at least 1,000 minutes. This year, while Bagley hasn’t shown himself to be the second-coming of John Stockton, he’s also not throwing up shots like a Chico State freshman at their first frat party.

Marvin currently ranks in the 29th percentile in assist-to-usage ratio, a significant improvement from those first few years. Even more important than that specific measurement, Bagley simply isn’t being featured, or forcing himself to be featured, in Sacramento’s offensive game plan. From 2018 to 2020, his usage rate ranged between 21.1% and 22.5%. It’s down to 13.7% this season. From a pure shot-frequency perspective, Bagley averaged at least 21 field goal attempts per 100 possessions through his first three years. He’s currently putting up just 13.2, a change that has resulted in him averaging 1.2 points per shot attempt, easily the best mark of his career, as well as the only time in which he’s ranked above-average in that category. On the season, Marvin has been featured in the pick-and-roll and isolation attempts fewer than 10 total times, despite averaging 3.2 of those play types per game in 2020.

In addition to his restrictions on the offensive end of the floor, there has also been a significant change in Marvin’s rebounding efforts. While he’s always been a solid rebounder due to his natural gifts, Bagley has seemingly matured into a much more aggressive glass cleaner, and he’s using a combination of positioning, effort, and athleticism to dominate the boards. On the season, he’s posting a defensive rebounding rate of 24.8%, good enough for 17th in the entire NBA, the highest percentage of any Kings player, and the best mark of his career. For a squad that has struggled as mightily on the boards as the Sacramento Kings, the ability to insert a near-elite, hardworking defensive rebounder into the game has been a bit of a godsend.

Defense and rim protection will likely never be strong points in Marvin Bagley’s skill set, but the 2022 campaign hasn’t been the complete disaster that was 2021. For the first time in his career, the Kings have actually improved defensively with Bagley on the floor, and his individual shot-defense numbers are positive as well. Of course, these sort of early-season, low-minute measurements are difficult to decipher from a long-term projection standpoint, but the eye test and the statistics sort of match up. Bagley may not be a defensive stalwart, but he’s also not Willie Cauley-Stein-ing it on a nightly basis either, once again a significant improvement from last season.

Sometimes, it’s easy to scoff at the manic celebrations of a Marvin Bagley double-double, as if that measurement actually means something, and the overemphasis of his untapped potential is a bit exaggerated at times, but that outside, excessive praise also doesn’t negate the positive changes that Bagley has made this season.

His numbers aren’t mesmerizing or awe-inspiring, but that’s kind of the point. He’s not performing at an All-Star level, and more importantly, he’s not playing like a guy who thinks he deserves that title. He’s passing the ball. His shots are coming within the flow of the offense. He’s rebounding with effort and positioning, rather than with pure athleticism. He’s actually playing some defense. Marvin Bagley’s natural skill set lends itself to that of a board crasher and a cleanup man, and to his credit, that’s exactly what he’s done this season, and he’s finally found a productive, positive identity in the process.

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BradMillersDipCup
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December 9, 2021 9:40 am

I know Tim wrote this, but it’s still really funny following Greg’s apathy article from a week or so ago where he said he had no motivation to write this story line.

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December 9, 2021 9:42 am
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Then why are you both so hateable? 😉

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December 9, 2021 9:55 am

Haha, yeah. This is very similar to what I intended to write during that little break between games but I couldn’t motivate myself to do it. Rather than try to force myself to write something I didn’t want to, I wrote what I was feeling instead. I’m glad Tim wrote this, though.

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December 9, 2021 10:28 am
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Rather than try to force myself to work on something I didn’t want to, I wrote what I was feeling instead, and emailed it to my boss.

He invited me to a company Zoom meeting, where he stated:

“If you’re on this call, you are part of the unlucky group that is being laid off. Your employment here is terminated effective immediately.”

I was the only one on the call!
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(My boss, Vishal Garg)

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December 9, 2021 4:07 pm
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The company laid off 900 employees in those few minutes, or about 9% of its staff. Better.com is valued at $6.9 billion – earning it so-called unicorn status. The company ranked #1 on LinkedIn’s Top Startups of 2021 and 2020. Better.com hasn’t responded to a request for comment.”

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December 9, 2021 11:50 pm
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He also threatened to staple his partner to the wall and burn him alive.

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December 9, 2021 1:59 pm
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I’m glad you wrote that one because it’s clear a good chunk of the fanbase feels the same way. I was just imagining Tim in a writers room drawing the short straw to write this article. Like, shoot, someone has to write it

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December 9, 2021 12:52 pm

I would trade him in one second. He’s all fool’s gold.

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December 9, 2021 9:41 am

This thread should be totally civil and homogeneous.

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December 9, 2021 10:31 am
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Holmes-ogeneous

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December 9, 2021 9:45 am

Now that he’s been “redeemed”, should the Kings attempt to sign him to an extension?
Would he even re-sign in Sacramento at this point?

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December 9, 2021 9:52 am
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Ahh, got it. Thanks.

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December 9, 2021 10:34 am
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“…potentially walking to another team with no compensation…”

This will be the ultimate Kangz, after drafting him number 2 with our golden ticket.

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December 9, 2021 10:36 am
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Even worse would be him walking for nothing then actually turning in a solid NBA career on another team.

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December 9, 2021 11:34 am
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It is your destiny.

Even worse would be him walking for nothing then actually turning in a solid NBA career on another team.

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December 9, 2021 11:38 am
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Even worse would be him walking for nothing then actually turning in a solid NBA career on another team.

You say things like this often, but I don’t feel you really know what this actually entails in the real world where making these decisions have real impacts.

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December 9, 2021 12:09 pm
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Huh? I was just piggybacking on Kosta’s comment about being the ultimate Kangz outcome. Losing a #2 golden ticket for nothing than having that #2 pick actually become something somewhere else would be the ultimate Kangz scenario.

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December 9, 2021 10:36 am
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Can’t they extend him the QO and make him restricted?

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December 9, 2021 10:37 am
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They can, but isn’t that a wicked cap hold going into free agency?

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December 9, 2021 10:40 am
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It depends on how much he plays.

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December 9, 2021 1:01 pm
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The cap hold is the same, and it’s not what his QO is either. The cap hold is….about 28 million total. It’s 250% of his salary. So basically the cap hold for Marvin is 28.28 million.

Lotta cheddar that cap hold. But that only matters whether or not the Kings are under the cap, and as of now they will not be.

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December 9, 2021 11:39 am
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Doesn’t make much of a difference. It’s not like he’s signing that QO in all likelihood. People talk about QO’s far more than they’re actually used in signing a player to a contract.

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December 9, 2021 12:00 pm
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By extending the QO aren’t they able to sign and trade him to an interested team?

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December 9, 2021 12:13 pm
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All extending a QO does is make a player a RFA. Signing a QO comes with limitations that almost every player and team doesn’t want. You can extend a QO without any consequences which is why so many teams do so. But the basic problem is once the player signs that QO, his full Bird rights are attached to the QO and if a player gets traded during that season he has to agree because in that trade that player loses his full Bird rights in that trade.

There are situations where this comes up and players consent to trades, but it’s very rare. I’m trying to remember the last time it happened and I’m coming up with a blank off the top of my head.

Agents understand this and so do teams. Neither side wants to settle for the QO unless the player really wants to return and the team really wants him back. It’s effective in creating opportunities for new contracts because of how difficult and nearly impossible it is to work around a contract for a player with a QO.

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December 9, 2021 9:13 pm
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Tim in that case where do you think he’ll end up. As long time Kangz fans how long do you think this will last? The rest of the season? I doubt it.

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December 9, 2021 9:46 am

I don’t know why any King’s fan would not want him to not do well while he’s here.

Yeah his Dad is crazy but the guy is young and faced with more money than most of us will ever see. I can see that motivation negatively influencing decision making. I hope he develops as much as he can for as long as he’s here.

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December 9, 2021 9:50 am

On the one hand; good for him that he seizes the opportunity, plays hard and withinn himself and his role. It’s good to see and turns him into a contributor.

On the other hand, it comes very shortly after refusing to come into a game and we are talking about a tiny 5 game sample size (and in one of those, he scored 5 points with 4 rebounds).

That is not redemption, that is a small step in the right direction.

Keep stacking steps, Marvin

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December 9, 2021 11:59 am
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Exactly. I don’t think keeping Bags is the way to go. It’s like all else with The Kings. The answer is not sticking with what they have but rather actually improving and rebuilding.

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December 9, 2021 9:54 am

It’s been really nice to see him play within a smaller role and do well in it. He’s doing exactly what we hoped he would do. I’ve said for a while now that he was talented enough to figure things out in the NBA, but that I didn’t think it would happen in Sacramento. Still not sure his long term future is here, but I’m still happy to see him figuring it out. Maybe he just was never going to figure it out under Walton, which would be understandable.

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December 9, 2021 10:36 am
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Maybe the L*kers trade for him, just so L*bron doesn’t have to face him again.

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December 9, 2021 1:59 pm
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Are we talking Jason Thompson, Kenny Thomas, Thomas Robinson, Reggie Evans, ZBo, WCS, or Mikki Moore levels of production? He’s going to be just another in the long line of disappointing Forwards passing through Sac.

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December 9, 2021 9:57 am

Thanks for adding some statistical info to go along with what I’ve been seeing, or think I’m seeing. My take is that he’s figured out how to do what he needs to do, but in a more team-oriented way. His effort both ways has been great, and he’s still such a phenomenal athlete that he gives the Kings the kind of player that they don’t otherwise have on the roster.

I don’t know what will happen this summer, but if things continue, whether or not to extend the QO could be a much tougher decision. If Bagley continues as he’s going, getting him back for something in the $7-$9 mil range for 2-3 years would be worth doing, but the market would likely run hotter. A trade could happen, and it doesn’t hurt that his value is on the rise.

This could in large part be due to some maturing on his part, and simply being healthy. His mindset about his role seems to have made real strides, and maybe that was the biggest obstacle to overcome. If so, and with continued good health, Marvin may yet become a pretty good NBA player.

I don’t have a particularly coherent opinion on whether or not that should happen in Sacramento.

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December 9, 2021 10:23 am
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Phenomenal athlete? OMG!
Do you even know the meaning of phenomenon?

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December 9, 2021 10:30 am
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December 9, 2021 5:07 pm
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No one appreciates this reference?

I feel bad for all of you!

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December 9, 2021 10:32 am
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Simz getting Simz’d.

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December 9, 2021 10:39 am
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Literally have no idea what this is about.

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December 9, 2021 10:44 am
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Playing. You’re a celeb on here, enjoy it.

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December 9, 2021 11:28 am
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D-grade local celebrity, but still.

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December 9, 2021 2:29 pm
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degrading sometimes!

love u long time Andy!

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December 9, 2021 2:28 pm
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Last month, for 30 mins or so, I was a poker celebrity at the WSOP in Rio for making the money with one $1K chip left. Poker media and both amateurs and pros were drawn to my table cheering for me to make the money and I did! Turned that $1K to 61K and almost 126K (and a healthy stack to go deeper). Placed 130-something out of 3991 players.

It’s fun to sometimes have your 15mins of fame! and i coubled that to 30 mins!

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December 9, 2021 12:19 pm
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You do have the ability to find a potential useful S&T for Bagley given how high his salary this season is and he’s not going to command a dollar amount that’s likely to trigger BYC.

That’s not typical with young players.

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December 9, 2021 12:10 pm
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So you want to keep Bagley and Buddy?

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December 9, 2021 10:03 am

I wish him nothing but the best, but I really hope this stretch has gotten his trade value back up.

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December 9, 2021 1:43 pm
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Yep he went from nothing to 2nd rounder value.

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December 9, 2021 10:10 am

So…. Should I get you the city uni or the throw back?

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December 9, 2021 10:37 am

Careful with your money–he might throw back the throw back!

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December 9, 2021 10:23 am

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December 9, 2021 10:29 am
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So players will now duck Bagley instead of Fox?

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December 9, 2021 10:43 am

The Chico State bit is legendary writing. Bravo

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December 9, 2021 10:43 am

With so many teams likely looking at major changes (Indy, Portland, Boston, etc) by the deadline. An expiring Bagley may yet have value to a team looking unload salary, rebuild, and get an opportunity to kick the tires on a former #2 pick.

For me, any improvement out of Bagley going forward won’t help the team much in the W/L column, but may help his value. That’s the best we could hope for at this point.

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December 9, 2021 12:11 pm
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Yeah, some team might be interested in kicking the tires on a former #2 forward like we did on Derrick “Coke Machine” Williams a few seasons back. Different players, but their career arc feels a bit similar to me so far unfortunately.

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December 9, 2021 12:22 pm
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It wouldn’t surprise me if he somehow pulled a Marvin Williams type career that spans well over a decade of just being an average NBA player.

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December 9, 2021 1:23 pm
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I think his length and athleticism lends to him being a decent journeyman.

To piggy back on your comment up above, I think there are a few other teams that might need/want to make a move like NO, Dallas, and Knicks, and perhaps Chicago to go all in on their season, or the Cavs to see what they can get out of Sexton.

Do you have a couple of players you would like to see Monte go get? I love Patrick Williams, like you suggested the other day.

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December 9, 2021 3:49 pm
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I really think Chicago could use Harrison Barnes and the Monte could get a King’s ransom for him (no pun intended). He’d slot in nicely as their 4 and makes their starting 5 arguably the best in basketball. Bulls look ready to compte now and could even be the dark horse favorite for the #1 spot in the East. Kings could get a few nice young pieces and maybe even a pick from them.

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December 9, 2021 5:31 pm
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I agree. I feel like they are in a position to sneak into a battle for the championship much like Toronto did a few years ago. Barnes would look amazing with their top five. I would settle even just for williams and salary ballast, but a pick would be great.

I wonder what Buddy could bring from NO, Dallas, or Cleveland.

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December 9, 2021 10:46 am

Marvin Bagley’s natural skill set lends itself to that of a board crasher and a cleanup man, and to his credit, that’s exactly what he’s done this season, and he’s finally found a productive, positive identity in the process.

Woulda been nice if this could have happened last year, but players grow as they grow. Both Bagley and Metu have proven to be very effective defensive rebounders (their DRB% are basically identical), but the difference is Marvin hits a much higher percentage of his 3’s. That, and where they were taken in the draft. But that’s pretty meaningless other than expectations, lost opportunities for the franchise, etc etc etc.

It’s good to see Bagley being productive in a smaller, stripped down role. I thought this season was embodied by the play where Bagley was in the corner, passed to Haliburton who passed it back to him, and Bagley was surprised by that (he should have been ready) and probably missed the 3. This was about 6 minutes to go in the game. That sequence is a classic NBA sequence which happens with unselfish players….something Bagley has generally never been confused as.

Marvin Bagley is playing differently, and I think he’s capable of more. Whether that’s in Sacramento or in another place, who knows? I just know this Marvin Bagley has been pleasant and enjoyable to watch regardless of status, draft selection, injury history, etc etc. I hope it continues at the very least.

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December 9, 2021 11:05 am

If he can stay healthy, Bagley is on his way to being Stromile Swift, 2.0. A perfectly cromulent NBA player that should have never been drafted at #2 in his or any other draft.

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December 9, 2021 11:26 am
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100% spot on.

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December 9, 2021 1:44 pm
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He’s already better than Stromile Swift at any point in his career.

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December 9, 2021 2:42 pm
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December 9, 2021 1:44 pm
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The Coke Machine comes to mind as a comp.

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December 9, 2021 4:37 pm
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You get a like for using cromulent in a sentance.

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December 9, 2021 11:15 am

Of all the things that I had placed hope in prior to the season (development of Tyrese, Fox, a return to slightly below average defense from Hield, Davion bringing defensive culture, a stronger bench), improvement from Bagley was not one of them. And yet, here we are, improvement from Bagley appears to be one of the only noticeable upticks on this year’s squad. In the end, I doubt it means he sticks long term but he may ultimately become a positive asset in a trade.

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December 9, 2021 12:06 pm

Meh…..

He still sucks ass.

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December 9, 2021 4:20 pm

I imagined you saying this in Japanese

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December 10, 2021 10:08 am
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Nice one..

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December 9, 2021 12:40 pm

I think it was said on the site previously…the quickest way for the Kings to become good again is for Bagley to figure it out and develop in to a good player. He isn’t there, and probably never will be while on the Kings, but at least change is good? Idk anymore.

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December 9, 2021 2:07 pm

Here’s my order of excitement by player on the court recently:

Haliburton
Bagley
Mitchell
Barnes
Holmes
Fox
Thompson
— everyone else—
Hield

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December 9, 2021 2:09 pm

I’m just glad to see Bagley getting some minutes. It was dumb to keep him plastered on the bench, while we were getting plastered on the boards, and needed some scoring punch. It’s hard to say what it means moving forward but at 22, he’s still loaded with potential.

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December 9, 2021 4:06 pm
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That’s really such a huge factor, that potential. He’s got physical abilities that still set him apart from a lot of very good NBA players, and if he can thrive in a more limited role, there’s not much to prevent him from becoming a key cog on a good team. I think he can get 16 & 9 in his sleep.

Staying healthy is beyond important, but that’s the same for everyone. If his change in mindset is true growth, it’s going to make the offseason complicated. It’s a good problem to have, but a problem, nonetheless.

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December 9, 2021 5:57 pm
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16 and 9 isn’t as good as 35 and 20 but but still decent for an NBA big man.

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December 9, 2021 5:52 pm

The Kings could extend a qualifying offer to Marvin Bagley and then sign and trade him or make a matching offer. That’s what the Bulls did with Zach Lavine and it worked out for them. I believe Deandre Ayton is in a similar situation.

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December 9, 2021 5:54 pm

Appreciate the shout out. Also accurate.

– Chico State Alumni

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December 9, 2021 7:48 pm
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Ditto!

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December 9, 2021 7:33 pm

The comments he made recently about Gentry lead me to believe he’s somewhat happier now. That’s good. Gentry seems to trust him as well. I’m optimistic this will work out in the short term. If Marvin turns out to be Marvelous like we once thought, the Kings will make the playoffs this year and he might just stick around on a reasonable deal. I’m seeing the glass half full after these past few wins. I know, small sample size, and I don’t know what Monte is asking for him on the trading block other than Bey, which I still take in a heartbeat until Bagley makes me think twice. Let’s check back in early January for a full assessment.

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