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NBA Trade Deadline Open Thread

Get your popcorn ready.

The NBA Trade Deadline is today at 3 PM ET, 12 PM PT. It has the potential to be a huge day of trades, or it could all fizzle out. But the names currently in rumors include James Harden, Jerami Grant, the ever-present Ben Simmons, Damian Lillard, Julius Randle, and Russell Westbrook.

There’s also a whole slew of Tier 2 rumors, including the possibility of movement among Kings players like Richaun Holmes, Harrison Barnes, and Marvin Bagley.

The trade deadline is always one of the more entertaining days in the NBA calendar. Use this post as a general discussion spot for news and rumors. If any Kings-specific news breaks, we’ll be sure to have it covered for you.

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Dub_TC
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February 10, 2022 6:53 am

Prediction: Harden will end up in Philly today, and it won’t go well (see Westbrook in LA.)

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February 10, 2022 11:18 am
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Can I have tomorrow’s lotto beers pls – asking for a friend

Edit: “numbers” but maybe autocorrect coupled with the TKH lag know something I don’t

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February 10, 2022 7:12 am

So, do we watch Woj or Shams today?

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February 10, 2022 7:20 am
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Shoj.

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February 10, 2022 7:59 am
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Woams.

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February 10, 2022 8:20 am
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Sham Woj!!

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February 10, 2022 9:01 am
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Slow clap

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February 10, 2022 9:19 am
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So, happy drunk deadline day, yes?

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February 10, 2022 9:41 am
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Hahahaha!

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February 10, 2022 7:14 am

T-minus 5 hours and counting…

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February 10, 2022 7:20 am

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February 10, 2022 7:23 am

In the mascot draft? Please, Robin is not worth a 1st rounder.

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February 10, 2022 7:28 am

I saw reports saying the Kings are telling other teams to back off of Harrison. If the Kings saying Hali is untradeable is any indication, Harrison is now the most likely to be moved.

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February 10, 2022 7:48 am
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I know Rob and I were saying this yesterday, but Harrison really compliments the core of Sabonis and Fox. IMO, it would take a beyond excellent offer to move Barnes now.

Holmes on the other hand…

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February 10, 2022 8:02 am
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It took an excellent offer to move Hali.

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February 10, 2022 8:10 am
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Oh ya. I totally agree. If they really are pushing for the play in they should keep him. If I was to actually make a guess it would be Holmes and Bagley, possibly a pick, packaged together for something.

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February 10, 2022 7:48 am

I’ll guess Holmes and Bagley for J.Grant and Saben Lee or F.Jackson

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February 10, 2022 8:03 am
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Good guess. Still want Collins personally, but the Kings will go the way they go.

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February 10, 2022 7:54 am

Hope Philly gets Harden as they deserve each other ! Let Morey pay him 200 million and watch him continue to deteriate ! Seee: Wall, Westbrook

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February 10, 2022 8:20 am

The Kings won’t make another trade.

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February 10, 2022 8:24 am
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You could very well be right, but keeping Holmes to play backup center minutes seems like a mistake. The Kings would be paying him good money to play 15-20 minutes a game.

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February 10, 2022 8:32 am
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Agreed. I’d hate for them to trade him, I love Holmes and the energy he brings, but he might be expendable now. I’m just getting prepped for the disappointment of no further tweaks to the roster.

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February 10, 2022 9:14 am
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Chris Boucher and a protected 1st for Richaun. Who says no?

Maybe not with Thad Young in Toronto and a protected 1st going SA’s way.

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February 10, 2022 8:46 am
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February 10, 2022 8:53 am
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Lol, and this is why I don’t bet. I’d lose every time.

Guess Monte was determined to get DD at some point.

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February 10, 2022 8:54 am
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Sweet Lord… it happened

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February 10, 2022 8:43 am

IT’S HAPPENING.

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February 10, 2022 8:43 am

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February 10, 2022 8:44 am
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Who’s coming back though?

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February 10, 2022 8:45 am
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My guess: our old friends Cash (Considerations) and Protected (2nd round pick).

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February 10, 2022 8:44 am

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February 10, 2022 8:47 am
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So it’s a four team trade with Bucks, Kings, Clips, and Pistons?

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February 10, 2022 8:47 am
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February 10, 2022 8:49 am
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Jackson is whatever but Lyles is a get to me.

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February 10, 2022 8:47 am

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February 10, 2022 8:54 am

So the Kings are getting DiVicenzo, Jackson, and Lyles, all for just Bagley? There are some missing pieces here.

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February 10, 2022 8:57 am
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True… but no more Bags. I’m gonna take a couple minutes to celebrate that reality

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February 10, 2022 8:58 am
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Lot of wings coming in. Does this mean Holmes AND Harkless going out?

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February 10, 2022 8:55 am

Wouldn’t that put us over the limit of people?

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February 10, 2022 8:57 am
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Have to wait and see what else we’re sending out (or buying out).

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February 10, 2022 9:34 am
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Yep. More coming. That’s what I’m waiting on.

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February 10, 2022 8:55 am

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February 10, 2022 8:58 am

Well, well, well.

Donte D! A shooter and high BBIQ and Bagley “next door” neighbors with Buddy again, and no outgoing picks reported yet.

Good trade.

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February 10, 2022 8:59 am
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The Vlade Era is officially over.

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February 10, 2022 9:03 am

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February 10, 2022 9:07 am

So, does that mean that Bagley is Gollum?

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February 10, 2022 11:28 am

Bagley is Tom Bombadil. You only hear about him in the books and was never on film.

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February 10, 2022 11:58 am

Precious!

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February 10, 2022 9:03 am

Can’t wait to see what’s next before the deadline. Pretty sure the Kings have too many players on the roster with this move, so somebody still needs to go. Or maybe they just buy out some folks?

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February 10, 2022 9:03 am

The Bagley trade was a masterpiece. Still a relatively small trade, but getting a player like Donte for just him and no picks is amazing. The other salaries they took back aren’t horrible either, allowing for future flexibility. Well done Monte.

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February 10, 2022 9:03 am

The BBIQ of this team just shot up dramatically.

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February 10, 2022 9:06 am

Really didn’t think Monte would go full-on Cal Worthington here today.

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February 10, 2022 9:07 am

Bye Bagley (though I do appreciate his better willingness to play a lesser role this season!).
Let’s goooooo Donte!!!

Waiting for the next one to drop (or two, we are at 17 now); finally gonna see the Holmes for Washington that so many have been talking about come to fruition?

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February 10, 2022 9:13 am
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I can see Josh Jackson being bought out or waived. Moe may also be on the bubble right now if nothing else happens.

(Just butt-guessing as I don’t have all the contract specifics in front of me right now)

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February 10, 2022 9:43 am
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True, or Ramsey and Woodard if another deal doesn’t come. But there’s still 2 hours and change to get another trade and potentially get down to 15. Otherwise those two, or Jackson are waived.

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February 10, 2022 9:47 am
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Can’t waive Jackson before acquiring him. You have to acquire him first, then waive him. Which means you have to have roster spots open first or do a 1 v 1, 2 v 2, 3 v 3 deal type thing.

FWIW.

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February 10, 2022 9:07 am

Let’s f’n go!

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February 10, 2022 9:08 am

when Haliburton was traded, I started drinking early in the day.

Today, I think I will also drink early…but for happier reasons!

LET’S GO!!

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February 10, 2022 9:13 am
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Two years ago, Monte almost traded Bogdanovic for DiVincenzo, and it was considered a pretty fair deal. Now he gets DD for Marvin “Paper” Bagley, and gets two other players?? Damn. Well played.

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February 10, 2022 9:14 am
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A lot of people who were chucking rocks at Monte two days ago are now sitting back and saying “Damn, dude!”

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February 10, 2022 9:17 am
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Gotta give it up, I have no clue how he convinced these other GMs he wasn’t just cutting Bagley tomorrow.

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February 10, 2022 9:18 am
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All the times he mentioned staying “flexible” looks to finally be paying off.

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February 10, 2022 9:09 am

Decent chunk of change slated to come off the books this spring.

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February 10, 2022 9:11 am

In a weird news, today is Josh Jackson’s birthday.

Welcome to basketball hell! Not really, we’re waiving you.

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February 10, 2022 9:12 am

Curious how the Kings manage a 3 for 1 deal. And more specifically who the extra 2 players they take off the roster are.

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February 10, 2022 9:15 am

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February 10, 2022 9:17 am
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Ah. That’s how they plan to do so. Makes sense. Thought they might do that.

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February 10, 2022 9:19 am
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So who from our roster goes? Any thoughts?

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February 10, 2022 9:20 am
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Woodard and Len?

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February 10, 2022 9:27 am
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That would be my guess. They only eat $5M on that. Or find someone who wants to take them with Holmes, I guess…

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February 10, 2022 9:30 am
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Len has value. They should trade him. Woodard likely has no value. Maybe Ramsey, but the Kings still need a 3rd PG.

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February 10, 2022 9:39 am
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I’m not sure that’s a good enough reason to keep Ramsey for this season – Justin Holiday can play PG in a pinch. If they like Ramsey’s potential, keep him I guess, but it really shouldn’t be about more than that.

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February 10, 2022 9:21 am
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Woodard, Len and Ramsey are all likely. You could trade all of them for nothing or waive any of them, too. I suppose Terence Davis is a possibility, but I doubt that happens.

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February 10, 2022 9:27 am
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I’m not opposed to moving him, but I also wouldn’t mind hanging on to Ramsey. He’s so young and raw at this point, but I see potential there.

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February 10, 2022 9:39 am
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I tend to think Monte values Davis as a solid contributor moving forward.

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February 10, 2022 9:42 am
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So do I BTB. And he’s under a fair value deal next season (4MM) , too. Let’s not forget that.

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February 10, 2022 9:42 am
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He’s athletic, plays defense and can shoot. He can be a complete knucklehead with the ball at times, but otherwise he fits well with Fox as a SG

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February 10, 2022 9:57 am

I seem to recall from a few weeks back, somebody posted that a couple of lineups involving Davis were also at the top of the heap for playing good basketball. Though, I’m too lazy to use the stat machine to figure that out, so I’m going to just trust my hazy memory telling me that it’s true.

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February 10, 2022 9:23 am
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Another possibility is moving Holmes (or another player) for a pick or something like that. There’s alot left to figure out. When the final roster is there I’ll make a long comment about it. You know me. 😊

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February 10, 2022 9:17 am

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February 10, 2022 9:18 am
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Not sure how reliable this is, but could put a crimp on moving Holmes.

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February 10, 2022 9:23 am

I’m almost positive Woodard will be gone unless there’s another trade where we send out more players than we take back.

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February 10, 2022 9:23 am

Honestly, I would’ve traded Bagley for a bag of oranges at this point, so getting useful players back in return without giving anything else up is fantastic.

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February 10, 2022 9:24 am
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I think it’s a smart trade for Detroit. Bagley could be great for them and they have his RFA rights.

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February 10, 2022 9:39 am
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Detroit will send out multiple second-round picks among the teams in the trade, sources said

I was reading about the trade on ESPN and the above nugget stood out. I don’t know if we’re one of those teams getting a second rounder (the article didn’t say), but boy, talk about icing on the cake if we are also able to finagle a 2nd rounder out of this too.

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February 10, 2022 9:44 am
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No, in fact Detroit is sending one of the 1st rounders we sent them in the Delon Wright Cory Joseph deal.

The picks are going to Milwaukee.

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February 10, 2022 9:35 am
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Kings traded his dad for a bag of oranges and some toothpicks.

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February 10, 2022 9:24 am

I have no idea who’s on the Kings anymore, and I like it!

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February 10, 2022 9:25 am
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Everyone who played last night plus Donte DiVicenzo, Trey Lyles and Josh Jackson.

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February 10, 2022 9:33 am
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Are you an accountant in real life?

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February 10, 2022 9:36 am
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No.

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February 10, 2022 9:32 am

Monte turns over half the roster. I wonder if Jalen Rose now thinks there is “malpractice” going on in Sactown.

I am interested in Richaun activity. I like him a lot. For his own work and pride in the Kings if he is traded I hope he gets a real role in the new team. He is a class guy. N endlessly hard worker. A grinder.

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February 10, 2022 9:37 am
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That was such a dumbass comment. I laughed when Jacoby said the NBA should void the deal. LOL

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February 10, 2022 9:47 am
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I lol’ed too and then again on the “League should get involved” and then again when he said that “Buddy is a flame thrower..”.

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February 10, 2022 9:54 am
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Safe to assume his role in the “hot take show” formula is that he’s the one who’s not very knowledgeable on sports, and is simply there to say crazy shit?

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February 10, 2022 12:11 pm
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I believe you have nailed his role there.

Jefferson on NBA Today is his doppelgänger in terms of narcissistic speech making.

Have a rec!

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February 10, 2022 9:45 pm
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Things like this nonsense reaffirm my decision to not watch network talking head shows (be it news, sports, etc).

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February 10, 2022 10:19 am
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I was hoping to see you weigh in JP, especially after that exciting game last night.

Incredible roster shake up. Kept flexibility for next season, added some wing depth, still have all of our wing depth.

And the added bonus of watching big market teams in all sorts of meltdown. This season has been wild, even for the NBA.

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February 10, 2022 12:40 pm
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Howdy Michael.

I watched the game last night and synced up the tv play by play with G man on the radio. With about two minutes left in the first period you could hear Gerry’s voice speed up in tempo and pace and his game call fill up with the excitement in his voice as the pitch of his voice went higher and the adjectives grew longer.

And it built like a staircase from there through the end of the game. It was the most enjoyable game I have seen all year.

The bonus…I recorded the Wolves play by play on League Pass and now that the dust is clearing on the end of the trade deadline I am going to watch that game.

Like most of us here, all I need is hope and a path forward to better play, high BBIQ players, and players that respect their teammates and are motivated to challenge themselves to be better than they might otherwise be by the way they play as a team rather than how they play as a single player, how thirsty they may be for their solitary stats. The whole has to be better than the sum of the parts to win in the NBA.

The game last night is a start. Just a start. Hard work and hard choices are yet to come. Today was a good day for the Kings. Giving Monte the authority to make these trades is a window into what the entire organization can do. Vivek needs to do his corporate job, which is to “Meet, Present and Report” to the collective ownership and the corporate business of running a business. That is his role. No more, no less. Let Monte form and run the team and it’s players and coaches and trainers. The last several days everyone was within their roles. A start.

The players they have turned and acquired shows there is more work to be done and a better return may come in the days and hours leading up to the draft.

Parting notes—I would bet a cheeseburger Monte talked to Bobby Jackson about several players on the team, new and vets, as he formed his plan for moving players out and bringing in new players to remake the roster. Just my two cents. Those two guys were everywhere together at the LV Summer League. Married at the hip, so to speak.

A pivotal play in the game last night, the tipping point in my opinion, was Richaun Holmes blocking a shot by (I believe) KAT at about the 4:15 mark of the 4th period. From there the Kings went on a ten point run. It is fitting it was Richaun that made the play. Particularly in light of a reduced role for him going forward. I hope the Kings and Richaun can go forward together, but understand if a good deal comes along around draft time that he may be going to another team. I respect him and his play as a teammate a great deal and hope nothing but the best for him. He has earned that much at least. A lion for his team.

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February 10, 2022 1:00 pm
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Great comment. Also, 100% agree on Holmes impact. He was big last night.

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February 10, 2022 4:44 pm
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You can sync up the TV with the radio? How? That’s a good trick.

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