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Monte McNair on Luke Walton: ‘He’s the coach who is going to get us back to the playoffs’

McNair clarifies that it was a basketball decision, not a money decision.
By | 150 Comments | May 18, 2021

Sacramento Kings

On Tuesday, Sacramento Kings general manager Monte McNair spelled out his reasons for retaining Luke Walton as the head coach in a media session.

The main reasons he continued to point to included:

  • Walton’s relationships with the players.
  • His working relationship with Walton.
  • How the team finished the season.
  • The need for stability.

Here are the full comments that sum this up:

“Luke will continue to be our head coach. The team finished strong down the stretch, obviously did not ultimately reach our goal, but he has the support of our players, we have a great working relationship and while we both acknowledge that we have to become better in many areas, we’ve built that trust and we need the stability in this organization to ultimately take that next step. On the season, we’re disappointed. Fan base deserves better, deserves the playoffs, we feel the frustration. We saw some good stretches, but ultimately, we were too inconsistent and we need to find more consistency. Defensively, goes without saying, has to be much improved. Luke and I recognize that, we’re going to work together to improve that. Offensively, we made a jump, but I think this team can be a top-5 offense consistently. So, we’ll look for another jump on that end as well. We’re going to do everything in our power to be aggressive and improve the team and ultimately get back to the playoffs.”

Here is more:

€œThere was a lot of positives this year. Certainly, not enough, we understand that, but Luke and I talk every day. We have a great working relationship; he’s got the support of the players. We found some success especially late in the season to get back into the play-in race, and ultimately, I felt that we could build on that and that he’s the coach who is going to get us back to the playoffs.”

McNair was asked if the decision to retain Walton was a money decision or a basketball decision, and he said, “I understand that that is kind of out there, but I’ve been given every resource I need to get this team back to the playoffs and this was a basketball decision.”

He also addressed the fact that some fans are not happy about the direction of the team.

“We feel, and hear, and see the frustration of the fans here, but we also see the passion and all we’re trying to do is unlock that and really turn it into the excitement that this city is ready to explode with,€ he said.

The Kings finished the season with a 31-41 record, which was good for 12th in the Western Conference, the same record and spot as last season.

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Bbmuteman
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May 18, 2021 2:42 pm

Now I wish the kings picked a different gm. That’s a very disappointing press conference.

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May 18, 2021 2:46 pm

Not encouraging.

Same as it ever was.

Migz
May 18, 2021 2:48 pm

This BS on finishing the season was bound to show up

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May 18, 2021 2:52 pm
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You heard it first in the propaganda segments of each pre-game and post-game, I was holding out hope that McNair was the real deal, he is not.

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May 18, 2021 2:48 pm

Different GM, same press conference.
Vivek Ranadive wasn’t going to bring in anybody unwilling to toe the line.

This is Vivek’s show, so there’s no reason to start expecting different results.

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May 18, 2021 2:50 pm

“THIS IS NOT A MONEY ISSUE, I PROMISE!” is only said when it is in fact a money issue. Financially confident teams never discuss finances, only teams with a shitty balance sheet feel the need to address those concerns publicly.

Monte has lost all credibility with me (I know he’s still better than Vlade at talent evaluation) but he’s a liar and is now just another another clown in the clown show that is the Vivek FO.

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May 18, 2021 2:58 pm
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I’m not so sure. I wish McNair would fire Walton yesterday. But we knew from day one that McNair is a big fan of collaboration between the coach and the FO, so having a coach that is also down with that (like Walton appears to be) is very appealing to him. I doubt McNair would want more of an old school “my way” head coach who was territorial about his/her court and locker room, regardless of their skill level, because the relationship would not be sustainable. We also know McNair is a big fan of flexibility and patience–his lack of major deadline moves showed he is NOT one to make major shake-ups unless he feels that he abso-positively has to. Walton is a crap coach, but right now he’s McNair’s crap coach, and McNair will keep dating him until he’s sure he’s found a smarter and more attractive girl to marry.

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May 18, 2021 3:10 pm
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If Monte weren’t an idiot, he would have waited to make this decisions once he knew which coaches would be available for hire, instead…well, he proved to be an idiot.

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May 18, 2021 3:16 pm
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Agreed 100%, in that Walton is under contract and there is absolutely no reason to come out and make this statement at this time. If they feel the need to broadcast a “vote of confidence” for Walton, they are already fucked beyond their knowledge.

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May 18, 2021 4:34 pm
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They did this for the players. They are coddling their young star(s). They do this every time. I don’t think monte wanted Luke anymore than you do.

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May 18, 2021 4:39 pm

Vivek’s #1 objective: Make sure the players still like him.

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May 18, 2021 4:41 pm
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🤙🏼

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May 18, 2021 4:46 pm

I’m in the same place as I was with Vlade. It’s either McNair’s call or he’s a paper tiger. And if his call is to cowtow to De’Aaron Fox, he is a very bad GM. And if this came from above him, then his is a spineless paycheck grabber that should walk away.

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May 18, 2021 4:55 pm
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Can I say it’s all of it and yes he should.

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May 18, 2021 5:07 pm
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I also don’t want to go on a huge tangent but a valid concern on their horizon is this treatment of players. They have now retained and fired coaches based on player feels vs results.

The true horror show on the horizon which we heard a lot today and then heard it regurgitated at length by ham and the talking heads, the swing for the fences Webber esque all star trade.

For those of you too young to recall the genesis there was a time when our beloved Chris Webber said he would rather retire than play here.

That was 98 and Ownership/FO has shown they are about as soft as 10 ply so far with player feels so what happens when their disgruntled trade return just says…..um nope.

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May 18, 2021 3:46 pm
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Yeah, this isn’t something that needed to be announced. If there’s ever been a coach that should be on the hot seat, it’s Luke Walton.

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May 18, 2021 3:15 pm
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I’m not doubting your take, but why wouldn’t he want his own hand picked coach then? Presumably, his own coach would be on board and matching what he and the rest of the front office wants.

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May 18, 2021 3:18 pm
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Why doesn’t our front office realize all the money they lose/waste on bad hires gets wiped away when a good or exciting product is put on the floor? If the kings, all of a sudden, started playing well, they might get put on national tv more often. That puts a spotlight on our local players. People start buying fox and haliburton jerseys. The arena starts selling out again. Success brings money. Even genuine attempts at success would bring money.

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May 18, 2021 7:25 pm
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See my comment. If this were a publicly traded company, they’d be in Chapter 11. Endlessly.

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May 18, 2021 3:54 pm
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It’s kind of a corollary to when someone begins a sentence with some version of “let me tell you the truth:” It’s all but a fact that you’re about to hear a lie.

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May 18, 2021 2:52 pm

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May 18, 2021 2:54 pm

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May 18, 2021 3:36 pm
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May 18, 2021 2:58 pm

McNair got a pass for Walton this first year. He owns this now.comment image

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May 18, 2021 6:33 pm
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Just wait until Holmes walks. Then the shit is gonna hit the fan around here.

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May 18, 2021 6:36 pm
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Frankly, I’d be shocked if he comes back. So him walking won’t move the needle for me.

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May 18, 2021 6:44 pm
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It’s gonna move the needle for me because Monte could have moved him at the deadline.

I don’t blame Holmes for wanting to leave, but if Monte couldn’t read those tea leaves, we are fucked.

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May 18, 2021 7:18 pm
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I’ve been thinking about this, but I wonder what kind of deal the Kings would offer Holmes. Assuming it’s 10.5 million the starting salary, the Kings can offer 8% raises.

1st season: 10,500,000
2nd season: 11,340,000
3rd season: 12,180,000
4th season: 13,020,000

47,040,000$$$$

That’s what the Kings can offer with their early bird rights as of now.

If I’m the Knicks, would I offer Holmes a 2 year 20 million AAV? I would consider it. They certainly can afford it. And those early bird rights would allow the Knicks to pay Holmes 27.5 million starting salary (which he won’t get) if they so chose.

The point is, were I a team out there with cap room, I would consider a higher AAV and shorter term (2 years) to get Holmes. If I were Holmes, I’d certainly consider that. But, it is what it is.

I’m not losing sleep over it, no matter how much I love Richaun Holmes. Holmes is good, but like Bogdanovich, it’s understandable were he to walk under the right circumstances. And if there wasn’t trades out there worth doing, there’s only so much you can do.

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May 18, 2021 8:30 pm
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I wouldn’t blame Holmes for leaving, but there was certainly a deal for him at the deadline that netted something. If McNair didn’t pursue that and subsequently let the guy walk, that’s a terrible look.

Throwing away an asset for what? To desperately try and fail to be the 10th worst team in the conference? That’s an issue of basic competence for a GM.

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May 18, 2021 9:19 pm
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Couldn’t agree more.

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May 19, 2021 10:42 am
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I wouldn’t blame Holmes for leaving, but there was certainly a deal for him at the deadline that netted something.

And that something was?

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May 19, 2021 9:02 pm
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Does it matter? Probably an early second round pick at best, or possibly a recently selected second rounder with some promise.

If you can’t figure out a guy’s market and that you can’t or won’t retain him, that’s just incompetent.

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May 18, 2021 8:00 pm
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Hornets are going to clear the bank for him. At least 15-17 million. HE would fit in perfectly there.

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May 18, 2021 8:00 pm
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Replace him with Kantor. Matches up better against bigger players. Gives you 11 and 11 in 24. Give him 30-32 min and it’s probably 18-15. Does everything Holmes does, cheaper and better. A little less athletic, that’s it.

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May 18, 2021 8:33 pm
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Kanter is a genuinely terrible defensive player.

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May 18, 2021 9:08 pm
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Yes, and?

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May 19, 2021 6:01 pm
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And Holmes isnt?

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May 19, 2021 9:02 pm
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Holmes certainly isn’t worse defensively than Kanter.

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May 19, 2021 5:10 am
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Ohh, it hasn’t already :-p

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May 18, 2021 3:10 pm

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May 18, 2021 3:12 pm

I am so disappointed in this front office. They are 100% satisfied with losing.

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May 18, 2021 3:15 pm

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May 18, 2021 3:19 pm
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That’s a tshirt I’d wear to the games.

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May 18, 2021 3:41 pm
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…if someone bought me a ticket.

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May 18, 2021 4:36 pm
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Burn that ticket if someone buys it for you. Don’t spend your hard earned money on overpriced food, parking, etc once you’re in the arena. SMH at this team…..nothing will ever change.

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You’re killing it, TerzoM!

This is perfect.

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May 18, 2021 5:57 pm
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Thanks Kosta. I’ll see what else I can come up with 😁

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May 18, 2021 3:22 pm

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May 18, 2021 3:24 pm

Marty, we need the “this is fine” meme with Monte’s face instead of Vlade. It’s already come full circle.

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May 18, 2021 3:32 pm

Ham on 1320. Wow. Just wow.

Anyone wondering about my question in the other thread should hear this.

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May 18, 2021 4:14 pm
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I love me some ham, talking about Monte is gonna go all out be aggressive on that trade market, all picks are in play. Who can we get ham?

um…….Collins would be good and sabonis yeah sabonis.

FML.

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May 18, 2021 4:22 pm
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Ham went all-in on Walton…full of excuses for him. He’s a good soldier.

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May 18, 2021 4:32 pm
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Ham went full straw man on his professed lack of understanding as to why many fans might not be happy with Luke Walton.

No James, it’s not just because of the way he was hired without interviews.

No James, it’s not just because he was a Laker.

Not once in his rather lengthy monologue, did Ham acknowledge … I don’t know the slightly relevant factors such as Luke’s head coaching record… or his teams’ defensive performances! You know, things related to silly things like actual performance and job production!

Does anyone in the Sacramento local media have the temerity to think that actual job performance might be a wee bit relevant to peoples’ opinions of Luke on this matter?

Holy begeezus my brain hurts!

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May 18, 2021 4:36 pm
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Short answer…..no.

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May 18, 2021 4:39 pm
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Reason he didn’t bring up record or defense is because of how outlandish it is to bring back this head coach based on those IMPORTANT METRICS.

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May 18, 2021 5:42 pm
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See what you don’t understand is….

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May 18, 2021 4:41 pm
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JJHam’s performance as a propagandist for the Kings gives me a sad.

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May 18, 2021 4:41 pm
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Like a good Vivek soldier, he put most of the blame on the roster that Vlade had built for Luke. Not Luke or Monte’s fault at all…

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May 18, 2021 4:43 pm
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Also, he was talking like Bagley and Hield have trade value. I sure hope I’m wrong on that one.

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May 18, 2021 4:47 pm
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YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE SMOKE (that Kings media is going to blow up your ass)!

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May 18, 2021 4:50 pm
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KC already called out my twitter handle on the radio!

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May 18, 2021 5:47 pm
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Well you are an annoying butthead so you deserve it!

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May 18, 2021 6:59 pm
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Well played sir! And I’m not even a fan of Space Jam!

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May 18, 2021 5:55 pm
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What specifically didn’t you understand?

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May 18, 2021 4:54 pm
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Gaslighting the fans… another Vivek-era hallmark.

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May 18, 2021 5:17 pm
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I’ve become so accustomed to the Kings media apparatus talking about me as if I was stupid.

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May 19, 2021 12:00 am
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The sad thing is, a sizable part of the fanbase eats it up like a baloney sandwich.

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May 18, 2021 6:42 pm
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It was like that with Vlade too.

“He loves this city.”
“He loves this team.”
“He’s not doing this because he needs a paycheck.”

Yeah, but none of those things have anything to do with the fact that he was the worst GM in the league for his tenure.

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May 18, 2021 5:01 pm
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Go easy on him, any of us would be thrilled with the lush five-figure salary he’s hauling in.

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May 18, 2021 5:07 pm
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I would be thrilled for sure!

I just think I could manage to at least acknowledge the undeniable here and there!

But who knows? Truth is, I would probably have been fired by now if I were him!

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May 18, 2021 3:37 pm

No worries guys. Monte said we are going to the playoffs so it’s all good.

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May 18, 2021 3:39 pm

How they finished the season? Yes, 3-7 in their last 10 games! Come on, a bunch of no-name players were playing for a new contracts. Missing bullet point: We owe him $11 million.

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May 18, 2021 4:40 pm

And how many of those 3 wins were against OKC…

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May 18, 2021 3:46 pm

Blah, blah blah…no different than any other crappy GM we’ve had in place the last 15 years.

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May 18, 2021 3:48 pm
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They’ve taken Geoff Petrie’s adage to the next level:

“If you want to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back to the orchestra…and then proceed to moon and shit all over them. Boo-yeah!!!”

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May 18, 2021 4:26 pm
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Vivek wants us to be a Jazz Band.

Meanwhile, there’s the Utah Jazz, who have the best record in the NBA, without getting much lottery ping-pong ball luck in their draftings.

I say we rename the team:

“VIVEK’S DISASTROUS ATTEMPT AT RUNNING A BASKETBALL FRANCHISE”

I think that’ll all fit on a jersey.

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May 18, 2021 4:32 pm
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The Sacramento Jizz.

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May 18, 2021 5:49 pm
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This is a horrible image…..

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May 18, 2021 3:52 pm

I can’t speak to whether or not his heart is in it, but regardless, he’s publicly ankled himself to this clown, so everything will be filtered through that going forward.

We’ll see if Walton can make it a full season. Here’s to an 0-10 start, and a 70-2 finish.

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May 18, 2021 4:11 pm
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0-10 is only one game worse than the longest streak we’ve had this season, and nothing happened there. Kings would need to start 0-20, maybe.

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May 18, 2021 4:45 pm
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Whatever it takes!

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May 18, 2021 4:15 pm
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Luke Walton will put on his resume’

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May 18, 2021 6:37 pm
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Yup. If Walton doesn’t lead the Kings to the playoffs (BREAKING: He won’t) Monte just made his bed with him. When Walton fails to improve this team, Monte will look the fool

Seriously, when Monte eventually fires Walton, will he admit that he was wrong?

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May 18, 2021 6:49 pm
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My guess is he goes with Walton.

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May 18, 2021 8:36 pm
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Replaced by Dumars.

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May 18, 2021 9:20 pm
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That really would not surprise me at this point.

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May 18, 2021 4:17 pm

😂😂😂 this is too much. Y’all are crazy.

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May 18, 2021 4:30 pm
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Don’t forget to call us girls

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May 18, 2021 4:28 pm

“… the excitement that this city is ready to explode with.”

That ship has so sailed, Monte. Not even sure I’d care if they miraculously won 50 next year.

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May 18, 2021 4:39 pm
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The playoff blue balls is extreme but the only thing kings fans are going to explode with excitement over is the end of Vivek.

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May 18, 2021 4:34 pm

I was afraid “the strong finish” might encourage Luke to be kept. What a pile of shit. Stability is a fair rationale but not when Luke Walton has two losing streaks that equate to .25% of the entire season…. we had two separate 9 game losing streaks….what more evidence do you need that he cannot coach in the NBA. He cannot adapt like other coaches, he simply gets out-coached nearly every game. McNair has done nothing to prove his worth other than draft Hali which kinda fell into his lap.

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May 18, 2021 4:48 pm
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My gut feeling is that this was a decision that was made a few months ago, and that ultimately, it’s all about the money.

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May 18, 2021 6:38 pm
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I have no doubts that it is about money. Just the fact that they have to say it isn’t about money is an admission of itself.

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May 18, 2021 6:55 pm
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It’s an admission when they were asked about it? Slight rephrase: It’s an admission of guilt when Monte McNair was asked that question by a reporter?

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May 18, 2021 6:59 pm
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The media shills have been saying that since yesterday when it was reported Walton was staying, Today was just the first time they were directly asked about it.

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May 18, 2021 7:30 pm
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The TKH pod with Jerry and James Ham a couple months ago made it very clear that everything about this season is about the money.

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May 18, 2021 7:36 pm

Pretty much FKC.

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Let’s stop giving Vlonty the credit for drafting a Top 5 prospect with the 12th pick. It wasn’t hard.

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May 18, 2021 4:42 pm

Well.. we better find a defensive mastermind to be lead assistant so we can hopefully have a tolerable defense… good thing we have bagley… he ought to be worth 2 second rounders

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May 18, 2021 4:44 pm

Absolute classic Vivek-era Kings. Zigging when they should be zagging. Fires coaches when they shouldn’t, yet keeps coaches who should be fired. Interferes with the draft process when he shouldn’t, yet fails to step in to prevent historic draft blunder.

Still not off the Monte train, I liked his trade deadline moves, but sweet Jesus, another year of Walton?

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May 18, 2021 4:47 pm
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It’s like jazz….

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May 18, 2021 4:45 pm

When can we debate who to pick with the 9th pick… I say Franz Wagner over Kispert

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May 18, 2021 4:50 pm
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I think that it’s at least 50/50 that we trade the pick, so I’m not going to burn a lot of neurons on this one.

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May 18, 2021 5:29 pm
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I’m 80% they want to trade the first and 80% that they’re too passive to flip the switch. Is that 50/50? In my job, you only need to count to 18.

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May 18, 2021 6:40 pm
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IF they trade back in the first round for some cash considerations and some future seconds I’m ready to being the pitchforks.

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May 18, 2021 6:54 pm
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1st + Bagley for a player that’s just outside the top 75.

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May 18, 2021 8:38 pm
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That’s my guess. Their “star” deal, if they can make one at all, is going to be for someone who might be the #2 on this team, but is only above average league wide.

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May 18, 2021 4:53 pm

We hold the power they don’t. Don’t support them financially and their tower of thirds will go down the toilet. If Vivek keeps this up and the NBA accepts this then screw the whole league.

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May 18, 2021 4:56 pm

These are not the press conferences of a well-run organization.

It is absolutely remarkable how much goodwill the dismissive little chap has burned through in a relatively short period of time.

We root for perhaps the biggest joke of an organization in the NBA right now, and on a very short list of worst-run organizations throughout sports.

Civic Vivek Pride!

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May 18, 2021 5:09 pm

Let me see if I have Monte’s logic figured out here. Vlade overpaid Buddy and Barnes long term. He made a disastrous no. 2 pick in Bagley. He double stacked the 2 spot with Bogie, who can’t guard either. He got lucky with Holmes, but overpaid vets like Ariza and Joseph, and hired an old drinking buddy in Walton. He inherits a team hat specializes in finishing 2 games out of the playoffs. So, he swings into action, and…
-doesn’t get anything for Bogie
-doesn’t re-set and move the big contracts at the deadline
-extends Bagley when most of would have gladly seen him traded for the no. 60 pick
-keeps Walton despite having the last-place defense all year
…but wait…you have to let the season play out, so he did, and…
…they miss the playoffs by 2 games and proudly finish with the second worst D ever
So, now it’s big re-set time right, with the first to go being Walt…WHAT?
Looks like we got a short, bald Vlade here. Can’t wait for next year.

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May 18, 2021 7:12 pm
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Extends Bagley? What are we talking about here? He’s still on his rookie deal. And if your trading Bagley for the 60th pick you’re a fool. You’d keep James Ramsey and Woodard over Bagley? Kyle Guy over Bagley? these are 60th pick quality kind of guys. Stop it.

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May 19, 2021 12:42 pm
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I would actually go so far as to buy out Bags, he brings nothing but negatives to the team. Are you really expecting Bags to return on a new deal? If not, then he is just in the way as he tries to get his.

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May 18, 2021 5:15 pm

Eh, sounds like your stock end-of-season press conference. Which is the way smart orgs do it IMO. Personally, I subscribe to the Bull Durham school of interview answers.

Crash: €œYou’re gonna have to learn your cliches. You’re going to have to study them. You’re going to have to know them. They’re your friends. Write this down. We’ve got to play them one day at a time.€ 
Nuke: €œGot to play €¦ that’s pretty boring, you know?€ 
Crash: €œOf course it’s boring. That’s the point. Write it down!€
Nuke: €œOne day at a time €¦€
Crash: €œI’m just happy to be here. Hope I can help the ball club. I know. Write it down. I just want to give it my best shot, and the good Lord willing, things will work out.€
Nuke: €œGood Lord willing €¦€
Crash: €œThings will work out.€

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May 18, 2021 6:25 pm

Auto Rec for the Bull Durham reference.

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May 18, 2021 6:56 pm

If it’s what the smart organizations do, then why are we doing it?

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May 18, 2021 9:55 pm
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There are small, fleeting moments when this franchise acts like a competent organization.

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May 18, 2021 5:19 pm

This will get crapped on but oh well I guess….

I also thought for sure Luke would be canned by Monday afternoon. Like everyone else I was looking at which up and coming assistants there were to hire. My initial reaction was disappointment. That said…

IF Monte really was the one to make this choice (absolutely none of us know the answer despite our proclamations), then I can mildly support it. Personally I have been mostly impressed with Monte over the past 8-9 months.

Moves that I like:

1) Choosing Tyrese at 12… about 6-7 other GM’s wish they could make their choice over again. That counts for something in talent evaluation even if we thought it was an obvious pick.

2) Not overpaying veterans into multi year deals last off season. A refreshing change from the Kings normal operating system.

3) Making small deals at the deadline that did improve the bench with relatively low cost players going into next year. The bench was terrible and he did improve it for really very little assets given up.

4) Not dealing Barnes for an Aaron Gordan type deal (if that was available which again we DON’T know). If the Kings are to be decent in the next two years I think Barnes is part of that. Not sure where RJ Hampton (on this team) and a likely late first round pick in 2025 pick gets you over the next 2-3 years in terms of improving the team. Which is his goal.

5) The second round picks (Woodard and Ramsey) were interesting and most of us were pretty pleased at the time. They could still pan out as role players.

6) Finding cheap big man depth in Metu and Jones on very favorable and team option deals.

7) Not resigning Bogi to that specific figure…Yes he is playing well now, I don’t think that contract looks anywhere decent at all if Bogi was playing in Sac all year fighting for minutes and shots with Hali and Buddy. I just don’t. Cap issues compounded even more. The deal they had with Milwaukee was a decent return. We will never know which team, agent, player was responsible for that not getting done.

Move I don’t like:
1) Keeping Walton

2) Getting something for Buddy, which God knows if that’s even possible. Shrug

I think he has shown in an extremely small sample size to be 1) a decent evaluator of talent in the draft 2) Able to make deadline deals that can improve the team (Even if the big deal we all wanted wasn’t swung for). If he has shown aptitude in those areas, it’s possible he has an aptitude for coach and team fit.

We may not like it, but Monte may generally feel that Walton is the best option RIGHT NOW moving forward to maintain continuity…he may be a huge believer in that. The Kings haven’t had continuity in forever and maybe that’s a root issue. I’m at least open to the possibility it is. Even when Joerger got a third year, front office and coaches constantly bitching at each other reportedly. Maybe Monte views stability as more important than what another coach could bring in X’s and O’s.

I’m not going to call him McGenius or say everything is golden, but overall I have been pleased with the moves he has made. Again, IF this is Monte’s move, I can very tepidly get behind it and at least see a reasoning for it, even if it’s not a splashy thing that leads us to have hope for next season.

Sorry so long…this is how you know it’s not Walton’s burner account 😉 I probably won’t come back to do a tit for tat against any takes on this, but feel free. I’ll read em : )

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May 18, 2021 5:31 pm
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Seems like a measured, dispassionate summary of what we know for certain has happened.

And yes, you are going to catch hell about it.

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May 18, 2021 6:26 pm
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OTOH, it was made in a reasonable and fair minded way which is just alright with me. Unlike the Jesus Lizard, who is not atm with me.

(Jesus Lizard = Jesus Luzardo)

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By hell, do you mean upvotes (currently 7 of those and no downvotes)?

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May 18, 2021 5:39 pm
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No reason to roast you, but that’s an awful lot of credit for not much in the way of results.

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May 18, 2021 5:45 pm
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Cant resist : ) He’s been on the job exactly 8 months ago yesterday, taking over the worst run organization in sports. What were the expectations for results to make one feel he was taking strides to turn things around?

If the result needed was to agree and makes moves that are the consensus of TKH, then he failed miserably.

Only time will tell.

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May 18, 2021 5:51 pm
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McNair has had an offseason and a trade deadline, and in terms of actually improving a 35-win team, he’s

  1. Drafted a very good player, who was an obvious choice at his spot. But good player.
  2. Traded for a rotation bench player at a cost of $6 million next season.

So he’s made one non-obvious move to mildly improve the bench of a bad team over the course of an entire basketball season. The rest of it to me is of no consequence. That isn’t much, in my opinion. And not firing Walton is a significant negative. I expect Holmes to walk this offseason as well.

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May 18, 2021 6:03 pm
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My expectations were not to keep an obviously terrible head coach and talk about the season as if this team is on the right track. My expectations were not to stand pat at the deadline so the team could chase a play-in game.

He’s done a few good things, but the West is advanced NBA basketball. This decision to keep Walton simply postpones the inevitable – but I suppose it does give him an excuse to stretch out the rebuild when he eventually hires “his” coach.

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May 18, 2021 6:49 pm
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But he has just made Walton “his” coach. He has no excuse now and that is the problem.

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May 18, 2021 6:54 pm
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Before I click off this thread, what you’re saying is the Kings can’t win with Walton correct?

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May 18, 2021 7:02 pm
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Correct. I don’t think they will unless Monte pulls a rabbit out of his hat and trades for a superstar who negates Walton’s weaknesses. But if LBJ couldn’t do it, I’m not sure who could.

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May 18, 2021 7:30 pm
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LeBron James didn’t play all season. It was the least amount of games he’s ever played over a full season before this season actually.

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May 18, 2021 7:59 pm
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Yeah, when that team was at full strength they were towards the top of the standings.

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May 18, 2021 9:01 pm
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OK, they were at the top of the kneelings.

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May 19, 2021 12:05 am
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This comment deserves more elbow room!

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May 18, 2021 9:22 pm
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Correct, which isn’t a playoff team in the West.

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May 18, 2021 10:33 pm
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They were 15-8 when LeBron, Ball & Ingram all played. 19-15 with LeBron and Ingram. 20-14 with LeBron and Ball.

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May 18, 2021 5:46 pm

Will keep posting this until proven wrong.
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€œWelcome to 24 Hour Fitness … would you like a towel and a locker today?€

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May 18, 2021 6:47 pm

Monte is either a horrible liar or an inept basketball mind to think Walton, who has posted a league worst defensive team TWICE over the past 5 years, is going to take the Kings to the playoffs.

I’m thinking its the former because you don’t get to his level of management thinking bullshit like Walton is a winning coach.

Now I am sad for the franchise’s future.

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May 18, 2021 7:03 pm

I don’t really get the frustration. What else do you expect McNair to say? He’d be a terrible GM if he said they were keeping Walton for any other than basketball reasons. Even if money is one of the main motivators there’s somethings you keep behind the scenes just like there’s some things that stay in the locker room for the players.

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May 18, 2021 7:05 pm
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I don’t expect him to say anything, and to see how the coaching market shakes out in the offseason. Keeping Walton at that point would be more amenable.

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May 18, 2021 7:09 pm
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Yeah, he didn’t have to say anything about Walton’s future. He could have been vague and said something lie,” We are going to evaluate this team from top to bottom in the coming weeks and right now I can’t talk about what plans we have in store for the offseason.” Instead he not only said that he is going to keep Walton, but that Walton will also take the Kings to the playoffs.

So if Walton doesn’t, it’s Monte who will have egg on his face.

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Sure, 15 straight losing seasons and more than 10 (I think) since Vivek “NBA 3.0” Ranidive took over. The Kings are the sine qua non of mediocre. Squandered talent, poor decisions, and endless political correctness to obfuscate incompetency. The Kings were incredibly fun until the “Kangs” defined them. When Grant Napier got the political correctness boot, I knew the gig was over. How can disappointed fans demand accountability? Don’t buy tickets, don’t watch games. Vote with your feet and your wallet. BTW if you have Sling TV, nothing to do–Kings NBC Sports.net cancelled, with no pushback whatsoever.

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May 18, 2021 10:01 pm

Rec’d for “sine qua non of mediocre”.

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May 18, 2021 8:10 pm

Mcnair lost me at Walton is the coach to get the Kings back to the playoffs. Based on what trending? Did he bother to look at his fantastic resume of success. 29 other teams would have fired a guy who coordinated two 9 game losing streaks.

What’s more concerning is the backing Walton has from Fox and Hali.
Do these guys really have that Killer Mentality? To Win? It’s great they all get along and love each other. F In. Skittles and Rainbows. Is that a conduit to winning?

This is the knock on Fox and So far, Hali. Good or Borderline All Star players that are putting up the numbers. But, Is winning a priority. Neither one has the edge of nasty to be consistently great. Fox is a very good player. COuld be an All Star. But, I don’t think he’s the type of player to lift a team. It’s not in his BB DnA. Is he a second option on a playoff team. Probably. First, I don’t think so.

The comments made by the players worry me alot more than Luke Walton.

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If Luke is going to bring this team to the playoffs, then they are going to have to bring back Cory Joseph.
I just don’t see how he does it without Joseph.

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Gotta stabilize that mediocrity. Maybe if we had a half point worse defensive rating and ended up with worst ever, only then would Walton be fired.

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May 19, 2021 9:05 pm
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We’ve been waiting 15 years to REACH mediocrity!

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I’m just not impressed. Never have been. The guy looks like one of those dudes that hands you a towel at the front desk of the gym.

Other than Tyrese falling in his lap, the rest of his moves have ranged from pure silliness (Bogie non-trade and tampering) to wait-and-see at best (mid-season pickups).

If he can flip Bagley and/or Buddy for a decent return and hit another home run with our lottery pick, then I might be convinced.

Until then, C- all around.

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Vlonty McDivac, until proven otherwise

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