Marvin Bagley got his opportunity this afternoon to address the rumors that began Saturday when the Team Bagley Twitter account requested that the Kings trade him.
Instead, he began his media session Sunday afternoon by saying the following:
I just want to say if there’s no questions about the game tomorrow, or what we’re going to do tomorrow, please don’t ask, Bagley said. If you don’t have any questions about the team and tomorrow’s game just hold off on those.
He was still asked questions related to the tweet, however. First, he was asked if last night was a distraction for him and the team. He responded by saying, I’m excited about tomorrow man, we’ve got a big game ahead, a great team we’re about to play. We had a great practice today. So I’m excited about going into tomorrow’s game and trying to get another one.
He was then asked if he wanted to take the opportunity to dispel any thoughts about whether he wants to be traded. He responded by saying, Like I said, tomorrow is going to be a big game for us, I’m excited about that. Just excited to get on the court and play tomorrow.
Bagley said he has an open line of communication with head coach Luke Walton.
We have conversations, but like I said, that’s not for ya’ll to know. We have an open line of communication. I call him and talk about stuff, he calls me. So, we have those conversations, but like I’ve said I’m ready to come every day, ready to work no matter what happens, control what I can control and just keep moving and keep pushing forward,” he said.
Walton also addressed the media and reiterated that he has an open line of communication with Bagley and that they are good talks and about honest things.
As a coach, my belief is never let a little thing turn into a big thing so you don’t have to overreact too much, but you’ve got to address and communicate things out just to make sure. And normally, a quick conversation is enough to keep the group moving, Walton said. I just have to have a pulse on the whole thing to make sure that something that is out there isn’t affecting the group.
Bagley has seen his minutes cut rather drastically in the second half of games recently, despite starting. Walton was asked how he balances going for wins and playing young players:
We need to play a certain way, and it’s a very interesting balancing act. We also believe that we’re going into every game with expectations of playing a certain way and trying to win. If guys are playing that way then they’re going to continue to play. As the game goes on if we feel like we have a better chance of winning, changing that plan up a little bit, then we’ll make adjustments in the game. But a lot of it comes down to at the end, guys that have proven, that have been there and done it, and have shown us that they’re making winning plays. A lot of times you look at guys like Richaun [Holmes] and Harrison [Barnes] and the experience that they’ve gone through already, there’s a trust and a chemistry built there so those guys are normally going to get the first crack at it. And then as other players are having big games, like Tyrese [Haliburton] has had a couple big games where I was planning on getting him out as a young player and then he makes a corner three with two minutes to go and then as a coaching staff you’re like alright well, this guy, he’s got to be out there as well and then we make more adjustments. It’s part of kind of growing as a group and getting familiar with it, and then there’s a balancing part of who do we normally trust and then whose having a good game.
It didn’t take long, but we have arrived at our first piece of Kangz drama. We will of course keep you updated as any other news related to this comes out.
Here, let me translate.
“I agree with my dad but I don’t want to say it in front of the media.”
Yup. Exactly this.
It’s a new year, but the Kangz never change.
Or maybe, the Kangz are changing, note that Luke isn’t playing Bagley in the 4th, but Team Bagley hasn’t gotten the memo yet.
Totally agree Oshima9
I think there’s been a few games he’s deserved a taste of the 4th quarter. Doesn’t mean you have to close out the game with him. Whether he’s here to stay or be shipped away, we need to get him some minutes this season.
Bagley is sixth on the team in MPG and there is zero argument to be made that he’s better than anyone ahead of him so far this season.
Yup. In my ledger I’d go a bit farther. He might be the 3rd to even 4th best big on the team right now.
If I were Luke, I’d be starting Holmes and Nemanja.
That really shouldn’t be the criteria though. Unless the priority is to make the playoffs over analyzing the young talent.
What if the priority is motivating Bagley to earn his playing time?
I think that’s most likely what they are thinking. I think it’s dumb, but we’ll see if it works.
I mean it’s only dumb if that’s not the correct way to motivate Bagley specifically. Do you have some sort of insight we all don’t have on the best way to encourage Bagley to play better?
To play better? No. To figure out whether he’s worth keeping around over the longer term? Sure.
But then again, I’m not sold Bagley has a motivation problem.
You’d think he’d be motivated to improve on fundamentals, to play team basketball, to play defense. But yet, here we are. Looking like the same player from fall of 2018.
Maybe he’s worked on those things, and he’s just not good at them? Not every player evolves, and I think we tend to assume it’s because they don’t work at it – there’s a reason Tyreke never shot like Steph Curry, and I doubt it’s because he didn’t work on his three point shot.
I don’t know why people think Bagley’s expected outcome has this huge variance. Does anybody really think its realistic he will evolve into a team basketball player? He’s comletely one dimensional. He’s not even slim ZBo. He’s Costco brand Zbo. Lets stop pretending his MP has some sort of influence on his impact as a player.
His best hope, in my opinion, is that getting traded will force Team Bagley to realize they need to pivot. He’ll maximize his on-court value if he becomes an elite garbage man. The problem is that he doesn’t think there’s value in being the best garbage man.
Eh, I’ve always thought Bagley has limitations that will prevent him from becoming an elite big in the league. But this is nonsense.
He’s got 2,000 minutes in the league – for about 75% of those minutes (under Joerger), he was a pretty productive big with some upside. For less than 500 minutes under a pretty weak head coach, he’s been completely lost.
I’m not sure Team Bagley sees the need to pivot, they just want to see him playing under a better HC. Frankly, I’d like to see that as well.
As bad as the good play/bonehead play ratio is in Buddy’s case, Buddy is not even in Marvin’s league. Marvin’s panic-inducing possessions prove that overall productivity is relative. Does he just not pay attention to his own game tape? The disconnect here is crazy.
So much natural talent, such an ironclad refusal to even attempt to channel it properly.
I didn’t say he won’t be a productive big. I said he’s not going to turn into something he’s not simply because he gets more minutes. He’s not going to be the second coming of Chris Bosh under the right coach. Bagley is who he is. He’ll maximize his potential once he’s willing to become an elite role player.
There’s no way to know that Bagley is who he is after 2,000 minutes in the league. And I don’t think he’ll be the second coming of Chris Bosh, but he might not be the version of Marvin Bagley we are watching right now.
You’re the guy who thought Jabari Parker might be a different player before the season started, no?
Parker was injured in the preseason so the “productive Parker minutes as the small ball 5” prophecy fulfillment will be a bit delayed.
There’s no way to know anything that will happen in the future. It’s all probabilities. I’m just not convinced there’s any positive correlation between maximizing his minutes played and productivity per minute. I basically think the inverse is true assuming injury isn’t a factor.
Before they analyze what he is in the crunch time, they need to analyze if he is worth the regular rotation minutes first. Besides that one 18 point game, he hasn’t shown any reason to be on the floor in the 4th Qtr. I rather reward Holmes, and set the tone for the team that if you play team first, you’ll get the minutes.
That’s my point though – he’s worth the regular rotation AND crunch time minutes now, because they are on a shortish evaluation clock.
It’s silly to worry about rewarding Holmes (who I really like), when he’s likely a trade piece at the deadline. Again, unless we are making a serious run at the playoffs.
No, no we don’t … this is completely the wrong way to deal with Bagley. Make him earn it. Haliburton is basically our second or third best player this season, and he sits on the bench. Why? Because Vivek and Vlonty aren’t hell bent on forcing him down our throat because they’re not doubling down on the 2018 draft fuckup like they are with Marvin, that’s the difference.
Haliburton is averaging more MPG than any rookie this season, outside of Okoro (who has only played two games). And he’s averaging more minutes than Marvin did in his rookie season.
He earned those minutes tho. It feels organic and not a lottery pick we are throwing out there to sell the future to the fans
Hard to say Marvin didn’t earn them in his first season. And that’s been the bulk of his minutes played in the league.
” Make him earn it”. I completely agree and I think he has in a few of the games. He’s deserved to sit a few games too. Last game they should have played him.
“no matter what happens, control what I can control and just keep moving and keep pushing forward”
That’s not what happy, well-intentioned players say. That’s what unhappy players say who are trying to cope.
As a fan, I’d love for him to come out and put this to rest. He doesn’t even have to counter his father, but letting it linger is only going to make it worse for him in that people will constantly question him. If that’s what he wants to avoid, he’s not doing a good job at that by going about it this way.
Whether he wants to be traded or not, he needs to tell his dad behind the scenes to shut it. If Monte could get anything for him and agrees to work on a trade behind the scenes, his dad is torpedoing any chance of that happening soon as any GM is going to want to try and get something respectable without just giving a player away.
I mean, even if you feel that way, you have to know by not addressing the subject head on, that provides more fodder for the masses and continues the kangz narrative. Come on bags, I’ve defended you to my other kings friends for so long already. 🙁
You should realize he’s been a net zero for this franchise, and already the third-worst NBA draft fuckup of all time, stop defending him and be a better man for it on the other side. It’s up to Bagley to fix Bagley. Babying him has gotten everybody exactly nowhere.
He has been, but he’s functionally worthless right now. I have two hopes for him. He plays well and the front office can re-sign him for an under market value contract like steph curry or dejounte murray got, or he plays well enough to be traded for a first.
Does he though? We will focus on it here, but I think it’s been proven over the years that we aren’t really representative of most Kings fans.
And we know the local media is incredibly soft. Good chance this is a non-story in a week unless the Bagley camp decides to escalate.
There’s an article on the athletic about this already. I hope you’re right about it being a non-issue in a week. Kings don’t need any extra distractions.
I hope it’s an issue that causes a big, unavoidable distraction. If I was the GM, I’d trade Bagley tonight if I could. I don’t have time for selfishness. Bagley’s a risky project at best. He refuses to play team basketball, he’s not good when he plays “me, me, me” ball, and his “team” is incredibly immature. The only hope, in my opinion, is to trade him for another trainwreck and hope you get lucky.
Probably a good thing you’re not the GM then.
my new thing is thinking they should trade him to the bulls for Wendell Carter Jr. I will will it into existence to prove my fake GM bonafides
Carter has looked really really bad outside of one game for the bulls this year. One reclamation project for another? I’d do it.
I’m chuckling a good deal at this.
Or until Fox and his dad chime in…
But sure, let’s just give in and giftwrap him more minutes, that will probably work out great.
I said it before, this relationship started on the wrong footing (thanks Vlade) and that baggage does not simply disappear. It is in the best interest of both parties that each goes his separate ways.
I have no illusion whatsoever that Bagley’s trade value might increase with more play. It will only expose his complete lack of fundamentals and ball-hogging style of play.
And here we are, throwing assets away. Not sure that’s the smartest way to go, but your mileage may vary.
I’m not talking about forcing the ball into Bagley in the low post every possession in crunch time. Simply to put him on the floor and see if he can contribute when the game is on the line. If this team feels it’s goal is the playoffs, then I understand keeping him on the bench.
Look, figuring out how to use Bagley isn’t easy. But that’s part of a head coach’s job. Suddenly, we’re so anti-Bagley that we’re forgetting how mediocre Walton is – I think that needs to be part of the analysis here.
I’m wondering if it’s Gentry that’s struggling to help Marvin along. Most of this seems to be that Marvin Bagley isn’t in line for the max contract like Papa Bagley thinks his kid should be.
I am certainly not anti-Bagley all of a sudden. I have been anti-Bagley from the very beginning, as is well-documented.
I have said from the start that I don’t like his me-first, ball-stopping, ball-hogging, low BBIQ, complete lack of fundamentals and bad defense type of basketball.
Figuring out how to use Bagley is very easy; convincing him – and his “team” – that his best role is to be a high energy guy off the bench who crashes the boards and gets most of his points on second chance opportunities is the big problem here.
He should have been handled differently from the start and should have been pushed hard to learn some basic fundamentals like how to set a screen, box out and pass out of double teams. Now, with a big part of his rookie contract wasted he is a sunk cost and there is very little asset left to throw away. That has very little to do with the last weeks, much more to do with unlucky injuries, the previous regime and Marvin/Team Bagley.
Your mileage may vary.
And one;
How difficult is it to endear yourself to the Sacramento fans?
God knows you don’t even have to be good; you have to show genuine love for the org, the city and the fans, work hard and hustle and be a team-first guy. That is about it.
People love Giles for exact those reasons.
People soured on Buddy for the exact same reasons. But now that he is working hard and buying in, we easily go back to loving him.
Not everyone is that smart or savvy Rik.
Again – we have never really epitomized the average Sacramento Kings fan. We’ve soured on Buddy and Marvin, I’m not sure your average Kings fan has, and if so, I’m not sure it would take much for them to get back in their good graces.
What did Jack Cooley really do in his time here? And Kings fans, including myself, love him.
This would be a bigger deal if he wasn’t such a disappointing player. I’ve watched every game he’s played…. nothing to do with the players he was picked ahead of, just the mediocre player he is… he’s an average NBA big man with a limited arsenal and inconsistent (at best) effect on games. Crap defense, limited passing, underachieving rebounds, can only go left and has only 3 to 4 post moves. The Kings should just move on with a trade or whatever works, he has little to no effect on winning.
I would argue that Bagley is signficantly below average and the stats I think would back me up.
The main problem is “Team Bagley” and also Bagley himself still think M. Bagley is such a great player, maybe even Superstar level player….(I don’t freaking know how they see it)……
Remember once Bagley was drafted, he thought he was going to be the MVP of the league…………..
This guy and his family is a real problem, they just don’t even know their son is only a left-handed, zero defense, tunnel vision player……
and his elite double jumper can just used to grab his own point-blank shot miss…
I only know he is leading the league in “ball being stripped”..
please trade this guy away from the organization asap.
Yes stats do indicate he is below average, especially advanced stats he is 53 out of 62 in PER..
Yea. I think him getting drafted so high was bad not just for the team, but for him as well. If he’d been drafted 15-20 range, I bet he’d have a different attitude and so would the team.
He’s delusional and getting bad advice from friends and family. It’s sad and pathetic.
No politics!
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His dad should be asked straight up if he’s speaking for his son or if it’s just his own opinion. His mouth is big enough that he’d spill the beans on if MBIII is whining to daddy.
Can we just strip his dad of having a voice to the media? Marvin could teach his dad a thing or two about getting stripped trying to take a shot.
Nets fall to 3-4. Who says no to Bagley/Buddy next years pic for Levert/Allen?
Agree that we likely need to attach him in a Buddy deal to get a better return.
This is good
I’d do that, because I’m not including next year’s pick, if by 2021 you mean.
What I would do is Bagley, Buddy, and a lottery protected 2022 for Levert and Allen, but the Nets would say no. They likely have no interest in Buddy with Joe Harris locked up .
Q: “Who says no to Bagley/Buddy next years pic for Levert/Allen?”
A: Brooklyn does.
I think the Nets both like and really need Allen especially with Jordan falling off.
There is a reason why Bagley wasn’t played in crunch time under both joerger and Walton.
Because neither are all-world coaching savants like Marv Jr?
(I kid, I kid…if it wasn’t obvious)
Still boggles my mind that Vlade drafted Bagley in such a loaded draft.
Outside of signing Holmes and Belly and acquired rights to Bogi, his 5 year tenure here really set us back
This is pretty simple. Prima donnas, divas, and other players with high-maintenance baggage (i.e. a loudmouth dad who causes drama all the time) are only worth the headache if their on-court performance is exceptional. Bagley is not exceptional, and the odds are he never will be. Trade him ASAP. It will make both the Kings and Bagley’s dad happy. Win-win!
Agreed, have a thumb.
I really have no argument against that.
My only pause is the Kings will get pennies on the dollar if they try and trade Bagley right now. It doesn’t hurt to wait if the objective is a high 2021 draft pick.
Well scary part about that is that we might be lowering his trade value but actually giving him playing time.
There are a lot of empty seats in the arena (both home and away) that he can keep warm.
Though I say play him, up to the point where other players start to grumble about why he’s getting so many minutes when his play isn’t dictating it. Let him continue to sink himself with his lack of skillset.
Yes, this is it. I can’t quite figure out if the Kings get more by waiting. Will Bagley destroy his remaining residual trade value, or show enough that some bedazzled GM will think they can get more out of him? It’s a puzzler.
Does it really matter though? What’s lost is the awesome draft position from the past, it’s not like players were given up to acquire him.
I’d have a problem in the NFL for example, cutting a player you traded assets for. That would hurt. But in this case you’re only losing a fantastic ping pong ball from the past. The roster slot can be filled.
I’d have no problem trading him under diminished value while at the same time believing it’s a sound decision with minimal downside.
But what would you get for him straight up right now? A second rounder maybe? Who would give a first round pick up for him?
You’d get matched salary of an average roll player, and that is about it. You could hope for an expiring, but I don’t think he even fetches a 2nd rounder right now.
IMO, his value is his contract packaged with an asset like Buddy. Combined they make up $33m. Maybe you find some looking to dump a bloated deal and the Kings get a first rounder and an asset out of it. An example would be Blake Griffin, Wiggins or Kevin Love plus assets coming the Kings.
Out of those options give me Griffin. As annoying as he is, at least his contract is shorter (than both) and he doesn’t actively make the team worse when he’s on the floor like Wiggins.
Out of that list, I’d take wiggins if it meant getting the wolves first. Love and a first sounds good too.
I guess as long as Luke and Pervis are on the same page, I don’t need to worry about his dumbass dad.
Has LaBradford been sighted here in recent memory. For me and ElRon that’s about a week but for all you millenials out there it could actually encompass something like a year. It won’t last but for the time being relish in it. It’s not you, there’s not difference, it’s your age. You will get older or not and overall older is better.
I’m here, Bluejohn!
I’ve been reincarnated and I’m meow a cat.
Did you that dude above now has your credit card?
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Well, by now you should know we all do.
As long as you all don’t make too many purrchases, I think it’s fine!
The autrashity of him!
I coached against his younger brother, definitely runs in the family and comes from the Dad
Can’t help him with that current mindset of entitlement
It’s mildly humorous, to me, that somehow Walton has been the head coach of the two players with the biggest pain in the ass dads in the NBA.
For reals. Two years with two different Core pieces trying to jump ship. I know he’s not the best coach but I can’t help but sympathize a bit.
Has any team had a higher awkward situation to games won ratio? And it always seems like there’s this weird magnetism going on. Good things attract bad things with this team. Tyrese gets injured as soon as the team starts playing well. Cousins gets freaking meningitis after the team goes 9-5, and then they fire Malone. Vlade makes the right play and Horry drains a three. The Kings move up to #2 in the draft, and somehow the GM’s European connections sabotage their ability to draft a generational European talent. The Maloofs sell the team to Vivek.
I’m open to hearing objections, but it seems to me that this team is cursed.
Oh we’re cursed alright. Ja Rule saw to that.
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/kings/ja-rule-puts-curse-kings-deaaron-fox-fires-back-rapper
Nah, bad things happen to the Kings when they’re losing too.
And, of course, the vast majority of those things were self-inflicted.
I get that. its more that feeling that something good will allows lead to something bad that feels unique to Kings fandom. The Kangz curse may not be real, but there’s no proof it’s false!
This is normal melodrama IMO. That’s why I’m not saying anything about it (other than what I’ve said already).
(I had to go to that old site for this!)
The Curse of Humphrey The Whale
The year was 1985. Sacramento was buzzing with excitement as the NBA had come to town. News spread of the opportunity to see NBA basketball played for the first time in the Capitol of California. Indeed, the news traveled all the way to the Pacific Ocean and reached the ears of a playful whale named Humphrey, who frequently traveled past the Golden State as he migrated between Alaska and Mexico.
Humphrey was as excited as anyone in Sacramento, for Eddie Johnson was his favorite player. Getting to Kansas City was not a realistic option for Humphrey, but Eddie was now going to be just a short trip up the Sacramento River. Humphrey began to plan his trip to see the Kings. The first game ever was going to be against a dismal and lowly franchise called the Clippers – the perfect opportunity for Sacramento to begin a new era with a victory and dominant game by Fast Eddie.
It was already October and Humphrey needed to act quickly. So, he swam under the Golden Gate bridge and started searching for the watery gateway to NBA paradise, the mighty Sacramento River.
Humphrey quickly found the Carquinez Strait by following the smell of refining oil. From that point, he knew to stay to the left or else face the unappealing prospect of ending up in Stockton. Listening closely, Humphrey could follow the sweet and soothing sound of George Deukmejian’s voice. With every stroke of his tail, George’s voice grew louder and Eddie Johnson drew ever near.
After smooth sailing beneath the Rio Vista Bridge, Humphrey was so close to realizing his dream he could almost hear the swish of Fast Eddie’s jumper. It was just two weeks until tip-off when Humphrey became stuck in mud. His dream was in jeopardy but Humphrey was not going to give up easily. He ignored the calls of the silly humans trying to get him to turn around. He waited for weeks while trying to free himself for the chance to see Fast Eddie’s sweet stroke. Humphrey was willing to risk life and flipper to see his favorite scoring sensation.
As the weeks slowly ticked along, Humphrey was getting sick and hungry while laying stuck in the purgatory of vanishing dreams. Nothing was going as planned. The NBA season began without him and the Kings lost on opening night to the hapless Clippers. Some new member of the Kings, a hot shot named Reggie Theus, outscored dearest Eddie. Humphrey was depressed. It was time to head back to the ocean.
As Humphrey crossed back under the Golden Gate Bridge that November, he swore that he would come back in couple of years to see the greatest Johnson to ever lace them up in the NBA. When Humphrey returned to the Bay Area in 1990, he was shocked to learn that, a couple of years earlier, the Kings had traded Eddie Johnson for Ed Pinckney and a second round draft pick. After processing his first thought – Who the hell is Ed Pinckney? – Humphrey cursed the Sacramento Kings. Humphrey damned Sacramento to a future of basketball pain, sorrow, and misery, then swam out of the Bay, never to return.
Now we have heard a lot of talk in recent years about bringing a whale to Sacramento to save this franchise from certain doom. There is such a whale out there in the deep blue sea who can do just that – his name is Humphrey. Until then, “these are YOUR Sacramento Kings!”
Everything equal, of course he wants to be traded. He is living under the Luka cloud, he is becoming irrelevant, and ownership does not have a history of developing or retaining talent. If I was Marvin I would want out bad, but like he said (it is my job) to plan on the game in front of me. Dad did him no favors putting that out there like that, but Marvin is doing his job at least in the press.
The right answer was something like this: “Getting traded is the farthest thing from my mind. I’ve been out a lot with injuries over the last 2 years, and I’m just focusing on getting up to speed and learning the things I need to learn so that I can quickly satisfy the expectations of Kings fans. No one wants that more than me.”
Of course, it’s impossible to imagine Bagley saying anything close to that.
The situation is becoming a farce. A player who can’t execute the fundamentals of NBA offense and defense refusing to distance himself from a father who is demanding a trade.
Local media will try to sugar coat it, but I can’t see McNair doing so. If this continues much longer, I expect him to be gone by the trade dead line.
Yep. I’ve watched enough True Crime shows to know that pleading the 5th is something people do when they have something to hide or a flawed character.
I certainly couldn’t see Fox or Hali going this route if their Pops said something as egregious.
Hey Marvin, how’s about you stop missing shots at the rim and getting stripped by guards, and actually play some defense that doesn’t make Enes Kanter look like a member of the all-defensive team…you know, like average more than 0.4 blocks per game, so the Kings can trade you? And tell your dad to shut it.
Trade Bagley for Markannen.
I’d be down, but I don’t see why the bulls would want bagley added into the mix with Patrick Williams and Wendell Carter. The savvy move may be to trade Bagley for Carter tbh.
Haha wouldn’t that be something. If I remember correctly, Carter signed up for Duke without knowing Marvin was coming on board. He was suppose to be the feature now if Bagley ends up being the feature in Chicago, he’d need a restraining order.
OT: I guess there’s a dude in the TKH unofficial fantasy league named Vivek Hang Looses who beat commenter 1951 because Steph Curry had 124.5 fantasy points tonight. That’s crazy! Congrats Vivek Hang Looses on your valiant victory!
Damn, I’ve already forgotten to set my lineup three times this season. It definitely cost me a win in week 1.
And last week as well!
I don’t think so, you smoked me pretty good. I shoulda just taken the week off. 🙂
True, although it certainly didn’t help that Siakam missed that one game for disciplinary reasons.
And now my phone just buzzed saying Durant is out under health and safety protocols, so you might have another tough fantasy week.
COVID!
My own “keeper” came back to haunt me!
Lol oh yeah!
I have no complaints in TKH Fantasy this year so far.
Welp, and now Team Bagley got DeAaron Fox’s dad to reply…
And then this…
BabyGiraffe unintentionally sparked a feud on Twitter. 😉
Is that really his dad?
What are you implying? You want a DNA test, or something?
This couldn’t be scripted haha it’s like The Office episode.
this is probably a bit hypocritical on my part, but I actually like that De’Aaron’s dad is talking shit. I guess it’s just better in my mind that he’s on our side.
Yes!
I heard on a pod one time that De’Aaron’s dad was at a game and was kinda heated afterwards. He said something like “I didn’t drive all the way out here to watch you (De’Aaron) not be aggressive.” Basically, he was being hard on his son because he felt his son didn’t do enough to help the team. I think it was Jason Jones that recalled the anecdote. Point being, I think Papa Fox is one of those old school dudes that doesn’t really allow his son to make excuses. It’s like the opposite side of the spectrum from Team Bagley making excuses for his son.
Aaron Fox also retweeted the SacramentoBabyGiraffe post as well. I can also see Richuan Holmes calling out Marvin in practice, too.
Haha! I love this! THATS what a good dad should do. You want to sabotage the team my son plays on too, and be selfish, dismissing the overall team success and goals? GTFO of here!
Right on father fox! ðªð¾
Trying to figure out Bagleys trade value and I’m not sure its a good idea to move him noe. Everyone counts him out but hes still so young, not that I think he’s going to be some star but the guy could be a good starter. Is it worth holding onto him and giving him a year worth of PT and a chance to prove he’s good or do we move him now?
What could you get for him? Markannen is my first thought, but I’m not sure thats even possible. What about Miles Bridges whos coming off the bench for Charlotte?
Trade him for a box of rocks.
After deep, deep analysis, our FO should trade him to whatever team has, in their estimation has the least chance of ever being any good. (Other than the Kangz of course.) I’m thinking the mighty Bees. They should trade him for a Euro player who never came over and who is currently playing on a Turkish semipro team and what ever “cash considerations” they can squeeze out out MJ’s wallet. We would come out ahead on that deal.
What else are we gonna get for Marv and his DADA? Every check he gets from the Kings is simply good money poured into a sunk cost that will never turn into a decent investment for the team. His daddy can ask for trades out of basketball hell all he wants but he has no control who the Kings trade him to. Let him go. He will never come close in value to Richaun
Holmes either in skill or character.
if bagley was smart he would’ve walked into that zoom call and proclaimed (in a real deep voice) “RORDOG’s opinions are good, actually.”
I just want to point out that this shit all started when the Kings got to Houston. It just so happens that McNair has been in Houston, and these are the first two Kings games that he’s been able to watch in person. Coincidence? I think not.
Papa Fox waiting until after Bagley botched his press availability was savvy.
All I know is Bagley is not a team player, his attitude is all about his own stat.
I wished so hard that I see him being traded when I woke up today.
But I do hope Monte can work out a trade to send him away from this organisation ASAP.
He had costed us at least 1 games (1st Houston’s game)
and he never attributed to any victory
(BJelly can give you same or even better performance if given same playing minutes)
Trade Bagley ASAP. Can’t stand a player and his dad who thinks his son is entitled and acts as he is the franchise player on this team. Sheesshh! I admit I felt bad for Bagley last season especially with all the Luka comparisons and wished him well and hopefully he could come back strong this season and prove us wrong. But man, after this incident and he didn’t even try to clear it up to the media I just want him gone for his sake and the teams sake.
Do we need to have a Parent/Teacher conference for a 21 year old???
On some level I feel bad for MBIII…but not that bad.
The problem with Bagley is that he never improved or changed things he needed to since he has come into the league. Some of the things we can just attribute to being injured all the time and lack of playing time, but some things I think he should have worked on. For example, he has great athleticism to sometimes outhustle people for rebounds (good), but then once he gets the rebound he rarely passes it back out. He always tries to score. It isn’t very hard to learn how to pass the ball back out to let the offense reset. Sometimes it is okay to try to quickly score after securing a rebound, but not every time. Especially when he does his patented move of taking a long dribble allowing everybody around him to recover, which then leads to him getting stripped every single time. The only time this technique works is when he goes against the other teams’ twos. It won’t work against starters. The only time Bagley seemed to look pretty good was when Joeger was bringing him off the bench during the beginning of his rookie year. And it still seems that that is the only good time for the kings to play him
I say keep Bagley and let him play. If he develops as the player we had hoped for, then it’s a win. However, if he maintains his marginal skills, then there is a better chance for a higher draft pick. If at all, we should trade Buddy for say, Markennan and possibly a draft pick. Play Tyrese and the other young draft picks more.
Marvin Bagley – the gift that just keeps on giving. Thanks again Vlade you moron
Bury him on the bench and make him watch his son rack up DNP-Coach’s Decision. Maybe someone offers a bag of chips by the deadline
If Bagley is already unhappy and wants a trade just after 6 games into the season, I say get rid of the guy. He may average 12 points a game, but what good is scoring 12 when he gives up 16-18 to the opponent because he doesn’t know how to defend the pick and roll. It’s no mystery as to why he’s not playing during crunch time……
Badge Legend