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Kings vs. Bulls Preview: Oh Great, More Bull

The Kings are looking to keep their heads above .500 and will get a chance to pull even in the win column with a strong showing Wednesday night against the Chicago Bulls.
By | 407 Comments | Jan 6, 2021

Editors note: The following was written prior to today’s events in Washington DC. We delayed running it for several hours, but I’ve decided to run it now. As of this moment there is still a game happening tonight, and I don’t fault anyone turning to sports for escape from the moment. Please also use this post for tonight’s game thread. -Greg

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Well it’s Wednesday and the Kings have gone at least 12 hours since embarrassing themselves off the court… which, of course, means that they’re due for a game where they can embarrass themselves on it! Tonight they’ll take on the Chicago Bulls, who started their season off 0-3, heard Charles Barkley call them the least talented team in the league and then promptly won four of their next five games. They’re coming off of a 20 point comeback against the Blazers just last night, which would be great news for a team that liked to get out and run. Unfortunately, this is the Kings. Let’s talk Kings basketball!

When: Wednesday, January 6th, 7:00 PM PST

Where: Golden 1 Center, Sacramento, CA

TV: NBCSCA –  Mark Jones on the call.

RadioKHTK Sports 1140 AM

For Your Consideration

Chicago-ing Up: Okay, first things first: The Chicago Bulls have gone through quite the rearrangement of deckchairs and as such, must be respected. Gone are days of GarPax and their particular flavor of stench. Gar Forman and his 22 years of serving the Bulls were pushed gently off the capsized boat after the effective end of the Bulls season in late spring of 2020. So too is John Paxson, who spent 17 years with the franchise before essentially firing himself (though technically he’s been reassigned) so that they might bring in Arturas Karnisovas as the new Executive Vice President of Basketball Operations who then himself named Marc Eversley as the new General Manager of the Chicago Bulls. Karnisovas has been a long sought after talent in the managing world in the NBA with stops in Houston, working with current Kings GM Monte McNair, as well as in Denver, where he worked his way up to the General Manager’s position before departing for the Windy City. I’m not going to go into much further detail than this, but the Bulls are being ran by intelligent, more than competent people. So if you’re counting that’s one less franchise the Kings can depend on to routinely screw things up.

Gone too in all this is the anthropomorphized cinnamon jelly bean known as Jim Boylan…..

Okay so, I truly wanted to write more about this match-up tonight against the Kings and Bulls. Lots of banter about their pacing and Lavine nearly being in Sacramento etc. But there’s something far more pressing taking place in our country and well, that’s taking precedent while I write this.

Prediction

The arc of the moral universe is long, but bends toward justice.

Kings: 0, The People: 340 million or so.

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SMF-PDXConnection
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January 6, 2021 3:08 pm

I just want to say how much I appreciate you, Will, and the entire crew of this site. Thank you.

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January 6, 2021 7:03 pm
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I’ll be working till about midnight tonight to finish the stuff I should have finished during the day that I couldn’t pay attention to because watching today’s craziness unfold in real time was too compelling.

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January 6, 2021 5:15 pm

Kind of funny this got two downvotes.

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January 6, 2021 5:18 pm
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Vox folks monitoring the competition?

Or it’s Grant and Vivek.

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January 6, 2021 6:01 pm
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No idea. All the comment said was hey, thank guys for running this site, and he gets a couple tomatoes thrown at him. Funny.

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January 6, 2021 7:03 pm
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There’s someone who downvotes a lot of comments at random it seems like. Not sure there is any point to it.

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January 6, 2021 3:22 pm

Will, I am breaking my 5+ year streak of posting game preview limericks in reaction to the seditious seizure of our nation’s Capitol building earlier today. Though I had one prepared this morning, I am too sad and angry to post it. To those of you who may be offended by my introducing €œpolitics€ into a sports blog, I can only say €œDeal with it!€

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January 6, 2021 3:33 pm
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It is actually very unnerving. And appreciate your part of the THK experience. Stay safe and I hope this can be rectified soon.

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January 6, 2021 3:46 pm
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Well said.

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January 6, 2021 4:25 pm
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Appreciate you, Jman.

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January 6, 2021 4:36 pm
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I’d like to help:

There was an old man from Queens
Who had a predilection for teens
He lost an election
Fomented insurrection
And still can’t distribute vaccines.

Moderators – feel free to dump this, it’s out of bounds.

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January 6, 2021 4:53 pm
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Compared to a Confederate flag flying in the Senate during an attempted coup, this definitely isn’t out of bounds. Have a rec.

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January 6, 2021 5:07 pm

Confederate flags? Loser POV you mean?

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January 6, 2021 5:32 pm
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I think “Traitor flag” is succinct.

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January 6, 2021 7:04 pm
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Why not both?

It’s the flag of traitors *AND* losers

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January 6, 2021 5:28 pm
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Spike Milligan cracked jokes throughout WW2 and published his journals. So I think a little comedy on a sports blog for the worst team in the nba is fine, probably welcomed.

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January 6, 2021 6:05 pm
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Hey don’t jinx the worst team thing, there are a lot of games to go.

If, say all the all stars sat out the season, there might be a few teams that finish worse.

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January 6, 2021 5:34 pm
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As A huge JMan1949 fan for 5+ years and counting, let me say: if today was the day, you made it count. I love your passion and creativity. Here’s to 5+ more years.

JMan may have lost his voice,
But now we all have a choice,
Speak truth to power,
Give fascism a glower,
And in compassion we all could rejoice.

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January 6, 2021 3:28 pm

One of the saddest and most disturbing days of my 30 years on this earth. I won’t blame people for completely disconnecting from everything tonight, and I also wouldn’t blame anyone from trying to distract themselves with some sports. Stay safe, everyone.

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January 6, 2021 3:41 pm
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Thinking back to what I’ve witnessed since the early 50’s I’d have to say this ranks right up there with Kennedy’s assassination, Watergate, & 9/11. Sad.

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January 6, 2021 3:43 pm
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Ranking this with 9/11??? Not sure I can agree with that.

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January 6, 2021 3:45 pm
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A man dies, and power passes per succession < a coup against the federal govt.

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January 6, 2021 3:50 pm
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What is difference is we were all shocked and saddened, and more importantly, united on 9/11, today proves we are not on the same page.

The former was an act of war by a foreign entity. Today is an attempted coup from within.

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January 6, 2021 4:32 pm
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Well both were terrorist attacks

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January 6, 2021 7:10 pm
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one had more deaths (but still less than the daily average deaths from COVID this month), and one had hideous implications about the future of our entire country.

They are fully equivalent in magnitude, even if a bit different in action.

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January 6, 2021 4:50 pm
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This is the first time since 1814 that the capitol building has been breached. I’d say it’s up there with all those, totally.

(Legit, not being sarcastic.)

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January 6, 2021 5:20 pm
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It’s weird that no one has mentioned that in 1954, Puerto Rican nationalists shot up the House of Representatives, injuring five congressmen.

It’s true!

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January 6, 2021 6:39 pm
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Good to know.

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January 7, 2021 12:48 am
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It was mentioned on some of the TV coverage I saw.

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January 6, 2021 4:50 pm
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This is scary, but the next few weeks will determine whether or not I rank it up there w/the pandemic & 9/11.

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January 6, 2021 3:43 pm

So is Haliburton playing??

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January 6, 2021 3:44 pm

I will always read “Gar Forman” as “Abe Froman.

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January 6, 2021 3:50 pm
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It’s tough to slip anything past this group. A lot of varied experiences in here.

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January 6, 2021 7:50 pm
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I will always read €œGar Forman€ as €œAbe Froman.comment image

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January 6, 2021 3:46 pm

Tyrese Haliburton is a patriot and a hero, max this man asap
https://twitter.com/TyHaliburton22

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January 6, 2021 3:56 pm
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Hell yes, then put his jersey up in the rafters.

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January 6, 2021 4:23 pm
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Its good to see players, fans. . . hell, everyone here, reacting to this. I’ve been trying to work, but just can’t. Its just disgusting to me what happened at the Capitol. And no, its not political! I don’t give a crap your political party or who you voted for, but inciting a mob who then breaks into OUR HOUSE – the Capitol is the “people’s house,” pisses me the fuck off! Sadly, someone died there today after being shot by Capitol Police. This is the U.S.A., not some damn dictatorship where whoever is in power stays there and makes the rules regardless. I’m embarrassed for this country, pissed, and also determined to speak up and not let shit this go unaddressed again. This is OUR COUNTRY. If you don’t honor the basic traditions like elections, then you are not a patriot – you are a traitor, and you ought to be treated like one.

Sorry for the rant. If you need to run me, I get it, but I just had to get that off my chest.

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January 6, 2021 4:48 pm
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Yeah, I was ready to be productive today and that pretty much isn’t happening for the rest of the night.

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January 6, 2021 4:12 pm

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January 6, 2021 4:14 pm
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I just read that only 17 have been arrested? Is that for real? Unbelievable.

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January 6, 2021 4:16 pm
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It almost sounds like the police only protects the citizens they align with politically…

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January 6, 2021 4:33 pm
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“Nobody could have seen this coming” – nobody.

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January 6, 2021 4:38 pm
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Another fave: “We’re better than this!”

Honestly, when has that ever been true?

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January 6, 2021 4:39 pm
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“The party of law and order.”

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January 6, 2021 4:36 pm
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There’s literally video of the capital police outside opening the gates and letting the rioters storm the steps, which was then followed by them storming the inside of the capital.

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January 6, 2021 4:38 pm
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14,000 arrested during protests related to George Floyd.

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January 6, 2021 6:47 pm
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That was also days long and nationwide, a little more time to make those arrests. Hopefuly the Morons parading inside the Capital will be arrested thru facial recognition and facebook etc. photos. To be honest so should all the idiots in jewelry stores and police stations should have been tracked down as well.

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January 6, 2021 4:17 pm
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If they were brown and black people, they’d be shot on sight.

Let’s call these fucks what they are. Terrorists.

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January 6, 2021 4:21 pm
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They wouldn’t have gotten within 100 yards of the capitol building before they were shot at.

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January 6, 2021 4:36 pm
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Hell, if you are black or brown, you’ll get shot just for sleeping in your own bed.

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January 6, 2021 6:09 pm
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I’d love to hear the counterargument of the person whom downvoted this.

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January 6, 2021 6:22 pm

I offered one.

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January 6, 2021 7:47 pm
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Who downvotes this?

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January 6, 2021 4:14 pm

I haven’t been this excited since two rookie quarterbacks for winless teams Drew Bledsoe and Rick Mirer went head to head.

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January 6, 2021 4:28 pm

I was working on a short 2D animation project in Photoshop these past few days while simultaneously doing my usual job searching/keeping up with exercising. I was all prepared today to start coloring the frames in and possibly get it all edited together tonight, and I was in such a good mood this morning….and now all the productivity I had planned has gone out the window. Truly such awful things happening.

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January 6, 2021 4:28 pm

As someone who’s a bit right of center-right, I’m thoroughly disgusted by what’s happening in DC. As much as I’m not looking forward to an all Dem WH, Senate, and House, I’m also glad that the loud mouth, egomaniacal bully is leaving soon whether he likes it or not. I do think there was a lot of cheating in the election, all in the favor of the Dems, but enough hard proof wasn’t provided to convince a number of judges. That is our system. While I agreed with many of his policies, his tweets, bragging, bullying, self indulgent actions were and are repulsive. What’s sad to me is that us on the right are not supposed to act like BLM/Antifa by destroying property and disrupting people’s lives. He lost and doesn’t have the decency or class to admit it and exhibit any grace. I hope to hell he doesn’t run again.

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January 6, 2021 4:40 pm
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I do think there was a lot of cheating in the election, all in the favor of the Dems, but enough hard proof wasn’t provided to convince a number of judges.

For the record no proof at all was presented to the courts. None.

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January 6, 2021 4:42 pm
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Yeah, I’d love to see that long list of hard proof that doesn’t exist.

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January 6, 2021 4:48 pm
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The only proof of fraud that’s been presented are apparently dead people in Pennsylvania magically voting for Trump.

Pennsylvania Trump supporter charged with voter fraud

I’m always flabbergasted by people who are skeptical of things that are backed by copious amounts of hard evidence (moon landing, spherical Earth, voting results) but need nothing to believe in a conspiracy theory manufactured by some whackadoodle on the fringes of society who probably ties his own shoes together occasionally.

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January 6, 2021 4:50 pm
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Facts don’t matter in that world.

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January 6, 2021 5:25 pm
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Don’t be subtweeting Kyrie Irving, now.

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January 6, 2021 5:35 pm
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The Dems cheated an election with a Republican WH, Senate, Supreme Court, and DOJ, mostly in swing states run predominantly by republicans, with republican legislatures and secretary of states, without a shred of evidence deemed solid enough to sway countless Republican judges (with Trump appointees among them). That’s one hell of a trick.

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January 6, 2021 5:38 pm

“Well I believe in God, and the only thing that scares me is Keyser Sobama.”
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January 6, 2021 7:17 pm

if the Dems magically did cheat – all those republican ran states are utterly incompetent and should be replaced. and the Dems should be laughed at because they didn’t give themselves the senate with the cheating. Who cheats to lose house seats and not take the senate?

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January 6, 2021 6:42 pm
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Mike 120 Your guys were in charge, it was their job to stop any cheating, and they have nothing to show it. Furthermore if this was so F’ing obvious and easy, not only to do, but to hide, then why wouldn’t Poppa T do the same… because it is almost F’ing imposible.
From a 55 year old whiteman and lifelong registered Republican (Moderate obviosly) Trump has set us back and all we got was a temporary tax cut.

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January 6, 2021 4:43 pm
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I do think there was a lot of cheating in the election, all in the favor of the Dems, but enough hard proof wasn’t provided to convince a number of judges. That is our system.

The Dems really suck at cheating. For the life of me, you would cheat Donald Trump out AND keep Mitch McConnell. Not only that, the Dems ALSO lost HOUSE seats and barely won the SENATE.

As someone who is a democratic socialist, actually been called “champagne socialist,” I hate defending establishment democrats as it is. Don’t make me defend Biden. This is an unintelligent take.

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January 6, 2021 4:52 pm
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What the hell are you talking about? You think the dems who aren’t even in control of the White House or senate somehow cheated??? Why do you think that? What non refuted information do you have to bring you to that opinion? NONE!!! You are as bad as Trump. Trying to act like you are decent and care while still spewing a baseless conspiracy theory that the dems cheated. Trump, Republicans, and you are anti American.

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January 6, 2021 7:58 pm
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You and I clearly have differences of political opinion. That’s fine. You can even get emotional about your opinions. But when you question my €œAmerican-ness€ without ever meeting me face to face you are out of line and I’m calling you out on it.

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January 6, 2021 8:11 pm
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I wouldn’t question yours, but I absolutely question patriotism of the insurgents who invaded the capitol today, as well as the people who incited them to do it.

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January 6, 2021 8:43 pm
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…as well as the people that continue to defend it.

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January 6, 2021 9:55 pm
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As I said, I didn’t like it at all. The storming of the Capitol and the stupid drivel coming out of DJT’s Big Mac hole. I am going to guess that this dissipates quickly by the Trump supporters as they go home. It won’t drag on for 100 days like the crap in Portland.

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January 7, 2021 8:59 am
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Fair on the first point. I wouldn’t imply you said otherwise. I agree that what happened in Portland went too far for too long, and on some level stopped being about the original intent. However, we’re talking about invading the United States Capitol during an election count. This will be in history books forever. That will be a footnote at best.

As far as the timeline goes, the people who committed this act, and the people who support them, and the person who incited this insurrection are not going away.

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January 6, 2021 4:57 pm
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This is why it’s better to keep things sports than to delve into politics on this site.
Having a different opinion is not welcome in a space like this.
And no, I’m not saying I agree with Mike120, but I do believe he has the right to voice his opinion without the mob coming after him and bullying him.
And please be civil in your language, those cussing sound no different than you know who.

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January 6, 2021 5:04 pm
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And no, I’m not saying I agree with Mike120

You aren’t saying you don’t, either.

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oh he does. He’s just upset that people disagree with Mike120’s unproven statements. He’d like everyone to not talk about facts, since they are not welcome.

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How is he not welcomed? He posted his comment. He wasn’t denied to post or anything. If you open up your opinion for discussion (especially outlandish rigged claims), a lot of people would comment on both sides of the aisle. That’s how forums like these work.

He’s not getting bullied. He’s just flat out wrong on his election claims.

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January 6, 2021 5:08 pm
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Disagreement != bullying

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January 6, 2021 5:08 pm
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Ummm, if you post known disinformation and lies, expect to get a strong response back.

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January 6, 2021 5:27 pm
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Having a different opinion is not welcome in a space like this.

Having bullshit opinions that have no proof to back them up aren’t welcome in a space like this.

What’s your Parler user name?

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I believe it is @GrantNapearshow

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January 6, 2021 5:38 pm
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Correct. He has the right to voice his opinion. And we have the right to challenge him to support that opinion with evidence. The same way we do when someone starts throwing around basketball hot takes.

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January 6, 2021 5:49 pm

“Look, Vlade was the best general manager in the history of the NBA, nay, sport.

“Proof? He was tall! What more do you need, snowflake?”

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If you haven’t seen the undefeated Jets skit it ispretty “funny”?

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“Why is TKH so unwelcoming to andy_sims?”

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January 6, 2021 5:50 pm
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You might actually be Peaches.

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January 6, 2021 8:12 pm
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Too reasonable and literate.

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Touting a debunked conspiracy theory is not a different opinion it’s a lie

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January 6, 2021 5:10 pm
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I feel for you. I have family who are life long republicans, including my Texas raised mother-in-law. They too are disgusted by the man in charge. They by no means are fans of the Democrats, but this year they just couldn’t swallow another 4 years of the same thing.

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January 6, 2021 6:47 pm
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I appreciate your words. I knew writing what I did that TKH is in general to the left of me. I was voicing my anger in both Trump’s words and actions and of the mob crashing the Capitol. Got my big boy pants on and people can say what they want. To the guy who called me un-American: does that pertain to my two US Navy tours in the Persian Gulf away from my family a total of 11 months?

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January 6, 2021 6:53 pm
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First, thank you for your service. You are welcome to say what you want, but yeah, a basketball blog in deep blue Cali is going to lean a certain way, so you I have expect blowback. I’m about as left as they come, but I’m tired of yelling. Sometimes having a civil conversation with those you don’t agree with is the best action. I’ve learned that skill with my mother-in-law. I feel there are those that I can still “reach” with my opinions without fistacuffs.

All that being said, I don’t think the people who acted today can be reasoned with. We are at a ever closing precipice and one man is responsible for slamming his foot on the gas pedal.

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January 6, 2021 7:25 pm
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I’m kinda with you on this. Really want the tone to die down. And I appreciate civil differences of opinion. I might learn something. You might too. Not nearly as much fun talking with those who agree with you. Very unhappy with Trump since he lost. He’s all about himself trying to disguise it about being for the country. I see it. Romney, Gore, McCain, Kerry hated losing too but they did so with grace. You gotta admit, Hillary is still having a hard time with it. Maybe I’m naive but I want to believe there are only 10% crazies on both side and 80% of us while not all in agreement can get along.

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January 6, 2021 7:30 pm
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I’m not sure about Hillary, but I was never a fan of hers. But I do know she is not a blatant racist, sexual predator, and incite violence from her followers.

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January 6, 2021 8:33 pm
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I’m genuinely curious – were you looking for the tone to die down over the last four years when Trump was attacking anyone and everyone outside of his base?

Or just now, when Trump has clearly lost his reelection bid?

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January 6, 2021 6:54 pm
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I don’t think military service makes someone immune from doing un-American things.

Edited to add – definitely not implying you are un-American, I just think that’s a red herring (used by Bill above as well).

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January 6, 2021 7:16 pm
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Just providing a little context. Haven’t met any of you personally. Agree with you that military service doesn’t provide a patriotic blanket.

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January 6, 2021 7:30 pm
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Agree with you that military service doesn’t provide a patriotic blanket.

Suspect a lot of vets would agree with this.

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January 6, 2021 7:35 pm
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My cousin is Jewish and is in special forces. He’s fluent in Hebrew and Arabic. He has served in places America is not supposed to be. He has many stories of folks in the military who have no business being there either due to their racism, ignorance, sociopathic tendencies or combination of all three. I’m sure the majority of them are pure in intentions and are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice, but there are a percentage that would terrify the rest of us.

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January 7, 2021 1:04 am
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I don’t think military service makes someone immune from doing un-American things.

I read that the rioter who died after being shot at the Capitol served in the Air Force for 14 years, so that’s a pretty clear example of that.

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January 7, 2021 9:04 am
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And while I don’t agree with what this person was doing, it’s tragic that she is gone. I assume she was unarmed, which is always a bad look for the police, and part of the problem with letting the mob through. Cops end up outnumbered and surrounded, and then bad things happen.

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January 6, 2021 8:14 pm
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Yeah, that was definitely a cheap shot and not OK. The election stuff is nonsense, as I posted above, but I otherwise appreciate your resonableness. I appreciate that least it’s a discussion and not a war on your end.

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January 6, 2021 5:48 pm
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Whatever may have been my political opinions before, I have but one sentiment now. That is, we have a Government, and laws and a flag, and they must all be sustained. There are but two parties now, traitors and patriots”

  • U.S. Grant

This is the only leg you have to stand on here, in agreeing with many of “his policies” I question your judgement on such matters. Children in cages? Letting Americans in Puerto Rico die? Doing nothing while hundreds of thousands of Americans died during the pandemic? Where was your line?

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January 6, 2021 6:57 pm
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Children in cages began under Obama. Both were wrong to employ it. Trump didn’t let Americans die in PR. People die during natural disasters regardless who is President. Trump marshaled resources to fight Covid. Hospitals, operation warp speed, working with private companies to make PPE, ventilators, etc. Could he have done more? Of course. There always lessons learned in the aftermath of disasters. I’d like to see the rhetoric be brought down and see calm voices on the right and left lead the country out of the place we are now.

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January 6, 2021 7:03 pm
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Mike Thank you for your service for sure, and I hear you. But what the pandemic showed me is we cannot be an island nation. Without solid ties to places hostile or friendly we are really just in the dark… until something knocks us on our ass such as the CV. We need more connections, not less, globally, and locally. Just My humble opinion.

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January 6, 2021 7:08 pm
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Thank you for that. Certainly, the world is interconnected and good relations with other countries are important. But I think it’s also perfectly fine for each country to stand up for itself and not surrender its identity to a global consensus. I wouldn’t expect another country to accept subservience to America.

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January 6, 2021 7:05 pm
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Obama’s fault was not replenishing our emergency stock of medical supplies.

THAT however, pales in comparison to what Trump has done during and before the pandemic. He abolished our pandemic response team that was built from the ground up by Clinton/Bush/Obama as a way to mostly combat bio-terrorist attacks.

Trump kept denying COVID during December calling it a democratic hoax. When we finally got the first case in Washington, he said it will go away in a few weeks. Refused to wear a mask, refused to have mask mandates (which Biden seems against as well). Refused lockdowns when they were proven to curb the infected rates. You want people to stay home? Pay them. Instead most of the money went to billionaires again. Surprise, surprise.

He definitely could’ve done better. But his irresponsibility and hubris has cost 300k lives. €œIt is what it is,€ right?

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January 6, 2021 7:13 pm
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So no governors, mayors or individuals deserve any scrutiny? Every death is on Trump?

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January 6, 2021 7:19 pm
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Not every. Be he is the captain of the ship. Where does the buck stop?

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January 6, 2021 7:34 pm
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It stopped with him. People didn’t like how he handled it and that is one of the reasons he lost. I’m all about accountability.

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January 6, 2021 7:36 pm
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Agreed.

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January 7, 2021 9:26 am
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Obama’s fault was not replenishing our emergency stock of medical supplies.

This may be a fair criticism, but the pandemic happened in year three of the Trump admin. There’s not much room for blaming the previous guy if you had three years to fix a problem.

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January 6, 2021 7:06 pm
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Well, the guy politicized masks, blamed others, and held numerous mass spreader events. I give him zero credit in the fight against COVID. Just because he did something doesn’t mean he should be given credit. One only needs to see how the other leaders of the free world handled COVID to understand how Trump bungled things.

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January 6, 2021 7:11 pm
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So did you like how China handled it? Dragging people out of their homes, disappearing journalists who reported things, kicking out international inspectors, allowing their people to fly all over the world knowing they were infected?

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January 6, 2021 7:14 pm
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I don’t understand why everyone is focusing on the China Bad part. Obviously yes, Fuck Chinese authoritarianism.

Secondly, like it or not, the best way to handle this type of pandemic is ironically what China is best at. Authoritarian lockdowns. Go to China right now and you can see they have water parks and shit open. Unless you think it’s a hoax.

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January 6, 2021 7:31 pm
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Americans would never submit to the measures the Chinese imposed on their people. The CCP can control their population because people have very few rights there. I haven’t seen much of China lately so I’ll take your word that it’s open.

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I read that China recently locked down parts of a province that’s near Beijing, so they don’t have the pandemic completely under control.

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January 6, 2021 7:16 pm
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No, but I like how Canada, France, Japan, Korea, Spain, Germany, New Zealand, Australia and most of the free world handled it. How about comparing us to our peers not our opposites.

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January 6, 2021 7:24 pm
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Based on what I’ve read, I wouldn’t include France & Spain among the countries that handled COVID-19 well.

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January 6, 2021 7:26 pm
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I define them as well, because they did a hell of a lot better than we did.

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January 6, 2021 7:52 pm
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Pretty much almost every country did better than we did.

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January 6, 2021 8:20 pm
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Spain has more COVID-19 deaths per capita than the US & France hasn’t always done lockdowns quickly enough.

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January 7, 2021 9:27 am
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Yeah, China is not the bar for how the US should behave.

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January 7, 2021 9:24 am
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Children in cages began under Obama. Both were wrong to employ it.

I’m going to correct the record here, and maybe this is an instance where we can all learn something.

The Obama administration did separate families, *when there was reasonable suspicion of abuse or human trafficking.* It was used rarely.

The Trump administration did it by the thousands, as a form of punishment for people entering the country illegally.

There is no both sides argument to be made here. I’m sure the Obama policy was implemented imperfectly, and maybe even poorly, but there is no moral equivalence. The Obama policy was intended to help and the Trump policy was intended to punish people by taking away their children.

Trump marshaled resources to fight Covid. Hospitals, operation warp speed, working with private companies to make PPE, ventilators, etc. Could he have done more? Of course.

€œGovernors are supposed to be doing a lot of this work, and they are doing a lot of this work,€ Trump said. €œThe Federal government is not supposed to be out there buying vast amounts of items and then shipping. You know, we’re not a shipping clerk.€

€œEvery state is shopping for ventilators. We’re shopping for ventilators. We literally have people in China shopping for ventilators, which is one of the largest manufacturers. So this is a major problem,€ Cuomo said at his daily news conference, adding that the administration €œcan actually play a very constructive role€ under the DPA.

€œWe’re going to need protective equipment in hospitals,€ Cuomo said. €œWe’re going to need ventilators. And that is something that a state can’t do, but the federal government can do.€

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/19/trump-governors-coronavirus-medical-supplies-137658

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A bit center-right? Establishment democrats are neo-liberals, who are literally considered to be center-right. I hope you know that. And even if you don’t like BLM/Antifa you can’t deny that anyone who shares your viewpoints are imperfect as well and prone to the same boneheaded behaviors when acting off emotion. We are all human.

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I’ve lived long enough to know that what are currently called mainstream Democrats, would have, forty years ago, been called moderate Republicans. This is not progress.

What passes for a moderate Republican in 2021 is someone who believes with no proof that there was election fraud, but isn’t willing to overturn a free and fair election with violence. This too, is not progress.

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January 6, 2021 7:01 pm
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Name me some current center-right establishment Democrats. Maybe Joe Manchin. Who else? So only those who share my views are imperfect and boneheaded? C’mon, man.

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January 6, 2021 7:06 pm
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The fact that Center-right here in America is a moderate Republican just goes to show how far right our politics are.

In Europe, Bernie is considered Center-Left and Pelosi is Center-Right.

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January 6, 2021 7:42 pm
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My definition of center right is a guy like Tom Sullivan on at 3:00. Yes, America is still more right than Western Europe but both are drifting further leftward

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January 7, 2021 9:37 am
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Can’t agree here. After electing Trump in 2016 and a centrist Democrat wining by what – a few hundred thousand votes in a handful of states in 2020, (and yes, 7 million nationally). The last poll I saw said ~75 percent of the GOP believes the election was stolen. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think 40% of the country is drifting leftward, 40% are turning hard right and 20% don’t pay attention either way.

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Literally the majority of the mainstays. Even Obama was/is a neo-liberal. Pelosi, Schumer, Joe Biden, etc. Joe Manchin just appears to be more right leaning because he is the senator of West Virginia. His votes with the republicans are inconsequential and only to keep his job. Anytime he votes with republicans the legislation literally is guaranteed to pass or fail and his vote is not a deciding factor.

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January 6, 2021 7:38 pm
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Are you telling me that Obama, Pelosi, and Schumer are center-right? If so, I’m at a loss for words. I threw out Manchin’s name but agree that he makes very calculated inconsequential votes in order to keep his job.

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January 6, 2021 7:43 pm
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They’d be centrists in Europe, but not in the US.

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January 6, 2021 8:15 pm
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Yes because they are neo-liberals. Compare Pelosi to AOC for example, who is solidly left. Republicans are just so good at messaging and mainstream democrats are pushovers who just fold to whatever republican grievance short of social issues. Every single dem I mentioned would trash a progressive as a socialist for example to win an election. The main difference between a neo-liberal and republican is social issues. The wars and foreign policy have been handled the same way by both parties for the most part. There is never much pushback when the DoD requests more money. First responders always get more money. Veterans always get more money/benefits. The list goes on. There is a lot more overlap than would appear.

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January 6, 2021 8:32 pm
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Fucking based take comrade

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January 6, 2021 8:50 pm
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Amen.

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January 6, 2021 8:26 pm
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Yes

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January 6, 2021 8:50 pm
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Brother, why do you think during the primaries, MSNBC/CNN/FOX would all collectively shit on Bernie? Because like it or not, conservative and neoliberals are basically the same thing.

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January 6, 2021 8:59 pm
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This, in the Civilized parts of the world where President Obama is on the political spectrum would be considered equivalent to republicans. There is a reason they twice attacked the only true left leaning candidate, Bernie, both times he ran.

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January 6, 2021 7:41 pm
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Given the Senate’s 50-50 split, any Manchin votes w/the GOP will doom Democratic legislation unless a GOP senator offsets that vote. I’ve read that he won’t vote for the Green New Deal, so that’s something that’s unlikely to pass the Senate.

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January 6, 2021 9:01 pm
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Likely due to the strength of the coal lobby and Manchin’s relative lack of spine.

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January 7, 2021 9:49 am
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If Manchin doesn’t vote his constituents interest and in some support of the coal lobby, there will be a Republican representing that state. I’m not saying that’s OK. Sometimes you have to take a hit to do the right thing, like people like Chip Roy did over the last week, and like a lot of GOP senators refused to do over the last four years. But you do have push/pull from the right thing versus in Manchin’s case, the thing that keeps someone worse out of office.

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January 7, 2021 9:35 am
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Name me some current center-right establishment Democrats.

There are 30 districts won by Trump in 2016 who are now represented by Democrats in the House:
https://ballotpedia.org/U.S._House_districts_represented_by_a_Democrat_in_2020_and_won_by_Donald_Trump_in_2016

There are not a lot of AOCs in that group.

I can’t vouch for the numbers or the site, but there’s an answer here:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2019/senate/ideology

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January 6, 2021 7:16 pm
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but enough hard proof wasn’t provided to convince a number of judges. 

I have not seen, read, nor heard of *any* substantive proof of fraud in this election anywhere other than Cheetolini zealots and Cheetolini himself saying it. Every single court case was dismissed, many with rebukes and threats to the Trump lawyer’s license to practice.

What you think about ‘a lot of cheating’ is you believing a lie.

Added to this is this horrific misperception that people on the right don’t do wrong, and this is a royal flush of excrement in comment form.

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January 6, 2021 8:09 pm
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I do think there was a lot of cheating in the election, all in the favor of the Dems, but enough hard proof wasn’t provided to convince a number of judges.

Just for the record, the Trump team won minor concessions in one lawsuit and lost at least 50 others, many presided over by Trump-appointed judges. There is no basis or evidence for believing there was widespread cheating in the election. If the story keeps changing, that’s throwing spaghetti against the wall. If you and no one else can prove it, it didn’t happen.

What’s sad to me is that us on the right are not supposed to act like BLM/Antifa by destroying property and disrupting people’s lives.

Well, they did. And the stakes are much higher in invading the US Capitol during an election count than damaging one federal building in Portland, or idiots taking over six blocks in Seattle. The right have also occupied the Michigan capitol with machine guns (or “long” guns, if you prefer). Not to mention people on the right plotting to kidnap and possibly execute the Governor of Michigan, murdering a woman at a white power rally and so on. Maybe it’s time to reassess whether acting a certain way is constrained to skin colors or political parties.

He lost and doesn’t have the decency or class to admit it and exhibit any grace.

We may seriously disagree on this stuff, but I appreciate your perspective here. You have a lot more nuance and morality around this than a lot of people.

I hope to hell he doesn’t run again.

If he is able, he will run in 2024, and he will be the nominee.

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Most are speaking up against you, full respect for speaking up against that majority of opinions. Most that agree with you won’t speak up. It’s disappointing that many people on this site can’t respect that.

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January 6, 2021 10:13 pm
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got any evidence of voting fraud?

speak up all you want – evidence matters when the claims are this incredibly important. And without evidence it looks like being a sore loser.

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January 6, 2021 9:49 pm
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You’ve got to show your work. Great claims require great evidence.

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January 6, 2021 4:51 pm

This was just like in 2016 when NBA had to postpone a game because the radical liberal pussyhatters forced their way into the Capitol building and demanded Hilary Clinton be President.

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January 6, 2021 4:59 pm

Much love to everyone here tonight. I doubt, like all of us, the Kings will be able to focus solely on basketball this evening. What a dark day.

Impeach or 25th. Would prefer impeachment.

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January 6, 2021 5:07 pm

I don’t think there’s enough time left in Trump’s term for impeachment.

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January 6, 2021 5:08 pm
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From what I’m seeing, it could happen pretty quickly. Even after his nonsense today, I don’t suspect you’d get enough GOP to convict in the Senate.

Interesting to me today that Pence called in the National Guard.

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January 6, 2021 5:29 pm
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It could be turned around in days if McConnell gets his people to cooperate. Considering that Trump just cost him the leadership post via Georgia last night, he may be game.

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January 6, 2021 5:44 pm
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I doubt he could convince enough GOP senators to vote for impeachment.

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January 6, 2021 5:47 pm
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Well, technically he may very well be impeached again. Convicted and removed? Not so much.

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January 6, 2021 5:49 pm
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& it’d be more likely to happen.

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January 6, 2021 5:50 pm
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They’d still ultimately need a 2/3 vote in both chambers since I can’t imagine Trump wouldn’t contest it.

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January 6, 2021 6:06 pm

GOP politicians might be more likely to vote that he’s unable to fulfill his duties.

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January 6, 2021 6:11 pm
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Either way, they would need to be willing to face the wrath of the base.

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January 6, 2021 5:51 pm
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But after four days, Trump could declare himself competent, and would resume power. That’s why an impeachment proceeding has to begin ASAP.

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January 6, 2021 5:55 pm
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All that being said, I’d prefer an impeachment. This way he can’t try and run again in 4 years.

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January 6, 2021 5:57 pm
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Congress could theoretically bar him from holding future office either way. It’s not quite as built into the process, but they have that power. Again, unlikely to use it. But it’s there.

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January 6, 2021 7:24 pm
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I’d prefer an impeachment because he committed more crimes today and impeachment is the tool for crimes the president commits. Right tool for the right job.

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January 7, 2021 8:06 am
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Exactly why I prefer the big “I”.

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January 7, 2021 9:56 am
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This just isn’t going to happen. Even Bernie Sanders isn’t pursuing this, last I heard. Like I said above, I’m calling it now. If he is able, Trump will run again in 2024 and he will be the nominee.

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January 6, 2021 8:04 pm
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I wish Melanie would just tie him up in some weird BDSM gear with a ball gag in his mouth until the day after the election. He just needs to shut up and go away.

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January 6, 2021 8:36 pm
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Wait wtf LOL

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January 6, 2021 8:07 pm
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this sounds like the thing you leak when you want to look like you don’t agree with Trump without actually doing anything to contain him.

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January 6, 2021 5:39 pm
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They’re in a dual session of Congress right now. In theory, I believe, they could do it today.

Not that I think they will.

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January 6, 2021 5:43 pm

In theory, they could do it. In practice, I doubt that enough GOP senators would vote for impeachment.

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January 6, 2021 5:46 pm
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Certainly not. Especially when they can just vote against it to appease their base, then just wait out the next two weeks.

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January 6, 2021 5:49 pm

Today has me wondering: can we wait out the next two weeks?

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January 6, 2021 5:51 pm
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Probably, but there’ll be a lot of tension in the next 2 weeks.

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January 6, 2021 5:53 pm
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From 538 (italics mine)
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We got a poll! YouGov conducted a survey today of 1,448 registered voters, most of whom said they were aware of the events at the Capitol.

The findings are pretty amazing. Here’s one: 62 percent of registered voters see the storming of the Capitol as a threat to democracy. So, OK, that’s a majority. But nearly 1 in 3 respondents, including more than 2 in 3 Republicans, said that people threatening an actual democratic institution as it literally conducts democracy was not a threat to democracy.

Two weeks is an eternity.

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January 6, 2021 5:54 pm
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Oof.

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January 6, 2021 5:58 pm
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Yep. Literally stopping democracy isn’t a threat to democracy.

But, you know, cognitive dissonance is kinda the Trumpists’ superpower.

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January 7, 2021 9:59 am

But, you know, cognitive dissonance is kinda the Trumpists’ superpower.

Alternate reality.

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January 6, 2021 6:01 pm
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20% + can’t even read a two page article from beginning to end, let alone comprehend the constitution. Do they even know what democracy is?

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January 6, 2021 6:03 pm
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“Democracy is where I get to do whatever I want.”

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January 6, 2021 6:24 pm
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That implies you think the US is a democracy.

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January 6, 2021 6:31 pm
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How EXACTLY does this imply, what I think? IT STATES that 20% (IMO) of Americans don.t read the big print, let alone the fine print, prior to answering a question. So are you IMPLYING that that same 20% are up to par on what democracy is?

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January 6, 2021 6:32 pm
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before you respond, I understand that we are not a pure democracy,

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January 6, 2021 6:33 pm
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You missed my point. Which is alright.

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January 6, 2021 8:53 pm
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Well as well as a democracy is when a person who has 1 million is cash is 10 x more powerful than one who doesn’t. So having said that when all this is settled I may as important as Trump. What a maroon, an incompetent maroon. The only thing that may give him a meaningful net worth is all the money he’s been sucking from delusional republicans in order to “fight” the election results. He can use it however he wants.

FFIW. I’m a decline to state.

IS THERE A BASKETBALL GAME TONIGHT?

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January 6, 2021 6:32 pm
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How foolish the 62 per cent are.

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January 6, 2021 7:25 pm
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go ahead and elaborate on that one Bill2455. This aught to be something special.

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January 7, 2021 6:13 am
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Pretty easy to do as you would vote for Phil Serna an elected official that posted this to twitter. YOU accept the fact that he considers his constituents dead to him.

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January 7, 2021 10:01 am
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FWIW, I don’t give a shit what Phil Serna thinks (didn’t even know he was in office), and that’s not an answer to the question.

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January 6, 2021 7:43 pm
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If one can accept the storming of the capitol today, then one cannot complain of over a hundred years of race and civil rights riots. Deal?

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January 6, 2021 8:09 pm
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Can one denounce the rushing of the Capitol and also denounce the burning and looting of cities?

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January 6, 2021 8:10 pm
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Yes IMO.

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January 6, 2021 8:15 pm
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Sure, but than one has to realize one group burns and loots do to oppression and civil rights. What were the ones rushing the capitol today doing it for?

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January 6, 2021 8:38 pm
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The difference is context. One is a reaction to they’re favorite politician losing, and the other is against systemic racism and anti-fascism.

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January 7, 2021 10:02 am
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Yes. Burning and looting are never acceptable, but legitimate protest is. Let’s not get the two confused.

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January 7, 2021 9:58 am
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Not surprised at all.

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January 6, 2021 5:52 pm
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We may not have a choice. And it may very well be a very shitty two weeks.

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January 6, 2021 5:08 pm

Strange mood. Did we pass on Luka again?

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January 6, 2021 5:12 pm
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Conservatives passed on democracy

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January 6, 2021 5:32 pm
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To give them a small amount of credit, every non-Trump GOP politician that I’ve heard is condemning this. However, a significant # of them created the conditions for this.

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January 6, 2021 5:52 pm
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Nobody deserves any credit for condemning this action. That’s the expected human response, the bare minimum, equivalent to saying you oppose trafficking.

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January 6, 2021 5:53 pm
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I mean, this wasn’t some sudden outburst. It’s been openly fomented and nurtured for the past 4 (or 40 depending on how you look at it) years.

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January 6, 2021 5:16 pm
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I think 2021 just had its “hold my beer” moment.

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January 6, 2021 5:26 pm
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It says, “According to Luke Walton.” How is that good news? 😉

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January 6, 2021 7:07 pm
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Thanks Now It’s like when you drop your ice cream cone, but decide you can wipe it off and continue on.

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January 6, 2021 5:28 pm

Well…

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Needless to say r/LeopardsAteMyFace has collected enough material for decades of posts.

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January 6, 2021 6:31 pm

This one, for me was gold

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January 6, 2021 6:45 pm
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Inject this into my veins.

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January 6, 2021 5:49 pm

Ty is playing! 2021 can begin now.

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January 6, 2021 6:20 pm

Dr. Martin Luther King famously noted that “riots are the voice of the unheard” and perhaps those individuals rioting today, just as those who have rioted in the past, feel unheard. But Dr. King would be the first to note that riots are a symptom not a solution, that riots require resolution, and that resolution is found in justice.

I read the snark, and sigh from the lack of empathy and wisdom. Please help me understand though, for the last 4 years the Dems have been claiming that Trump is a racist, White Supremacist, traitorous, Dictator. If that be the case, why would any Democrat official NOT cheat to make sure Trump lost? Would that not be the moral thing to do?



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January 6, 2021 6:32 pm
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IMO, Trump is a racist, white supremacist, wannabe-traitorous, wannabe-dictator. Unfortunately for him, he has repeatedly been frustrated by the judicial branch of our government.

Perhaps, just as in the 2018 elections, Democrats knew he was beatable and an anchor to many GOP candidates across the nation.

If that be the case, why would any Democrat official NOT cheat to make sure Trump lost? 

If that be the case, why would so many Republican officials be complicit in the Democratic scheme? What were the mechanisms of this cheating?

Y’all should actually bring some proof or shut the fuck up, IMHO.

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January 6, 2021 6:34 pm
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I always appreciate a totalitarian exposing their violent and vulgar selves. Proof MLK was correct.

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January 6, 2021 6:40 pm
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A man who supports the actions of the protestors today using MLK as a shield. Your family probably pats you on the head a lot.

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January 6, 2021 6:44 pm
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I see, so tell me big boy, what is the last thing you did which took an ounce of courage? What is on your DD214? What have you ever done for others?

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January 6, 2021 6:47 pm
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If you’re such a hero, why aren’t you dead?

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January 6, 2021 6:49 pm
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Speed is life. Clearly you never learned the fundamentals.

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January 6, 2021 6:52 pm
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Man, I’ve never seen this pivot before. Well played, Bill.

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I’m whooshed. “Speed is Life” made me think of a Pixar movie:
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January 6, 2021 7:21 pm
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I would love to know what a DD214 has to do with courage…..but maybe I’m missing your point.

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January 7, 2021 9:32 am
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Of course you would not know.

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January 7, 2021 10:07 am
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I always appreciate a totalitarian exposing their violent and vulgar selves.

I’m confused. Are talking about Trump here? ‘Cause it sounds like you’re a Trumo supporter and also referring to him.

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January 6, 2021 6:37 pm
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In my opinion, I also think he’s a proto-fascist. He has laid the groundwork for a more capable and stronger Republican populist candidate that can easily twist and destroy democracy.

The reason why no coup has happened in election night or this coming inauguration is because he’s an idiot and the GOP is pretty divided right now.

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Your opinion is quite shallow.

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January 6, 2021 6:44 pm
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But it’s divided at a point so far on the fringes that the distinctions don’t matter any more.

You have Republicans which either believe and/or knowingly spread lies about a clean election who are willing to overthrow the incoming government through violence, and you have Republicans which either believe and/or knowingly spread lies about a clean election who aren’t willing to resort to violence.

Regardless, the discourse is so polluted that no amount of proof will be sufficient to change the minds of people who have been told over and over that they are victims, that they have been cheated, and that they deserve justice. This is what has been created over the past five decades, and it wasn’t done haphazardly or by accident.

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January 6, 2021 6:45 pm
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I say this as someone who has never joined a political party, and has no use for them.

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January 6, 2021 6:45 pm
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A simple audit would have worked quite well. Failure to acknowledge breeds anger. Accept the responsibility.

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January 6, 2021 6:47 pm
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They were all audited and recounted. Don’t be dim, take the loss.

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January 6, 2021 6:51 pm
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A simple audit? How many of those do you need?

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January 6, 2021 7:38 pm
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Well you see, if your man lost, and you’re a cultist, you want ***one more audit*** than was conducted – because the last audit that was conducted came up with a total that said the other guy won.

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January 7, 2021 10:12 am
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This is ridiculous. Georgia counted three times. I believe at last count, Trump’s dream team had lost 90 Federal lawsuits regarding the election. There’s not even one coherent story about what “fraud” actually took place. Take your own advice about responsibility.

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January 6, 2021 6:47 pm
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Yea you’re right. There’s the dog whistling €œclassic€ Republicans and then there’s the all-out stand back, stand by bootlicking Trump loyalists. Both sides of the same coin.

Their division right now is basically Mcconell vs. Trump. I love how they fucked over each other. It’s just… Chef’s kiss.

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January 6, 2021 7:10 pm
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He’s an actual fascist, not a proto-fascist. He has a lot of similarities to Mussolini.

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January 6, 2021 7:17 pm
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He hasn’t gone full fascist yet though. He’s just a wannabe right now. Because if he was full Mango Mussolini, he would be President still even after Biden’s inauguration. He would start rounding up people like AOC or Ilhan Omar. Fortunately he’s a dumbass but he has laid the groundwork for sure.

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January 6, 2021 8:00 pm
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If it wasn’t for the safeguards in the system, he would’ve gone full Mussolini. It’s what he’s been trying to do.

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January 6, 2021 6:34 pm
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In a disgusting twist, Poo Poo Bennett tweeted these words.

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January 6, 2021 6:35 pm
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EDIT

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January 6, 2021 6:38 pm
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I have no idea who this twitter person may be…and in all honesty it would appear they like you have not created a legacy of anything interesting enough for me to know.

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January 6, 2021 6:48 pm
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Interesting enough for you to respond ¤ï¸

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January 6, 2021 7:07 pm
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He’s really putting a dent into the old “best and brightest” trope, making excuses for a draft-dodger while disregarding the oath he took to defend the Constitution.

There’s a very good reason why this country is run by civilians, and not the military.

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January 6, 2021 7:24 pm
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GOP brought out the SS the last 4 years.

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January 6, 2021 9:08 pm
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Why are you here sir?

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January 6, 2021 6:37 pm
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Ah, because people have been calling Trump what he is, obviously they’d be willing to commit proofless voter fraud on a scale large enough to rig a national election.

Do you not hear yourself? If it’s so easy, how did Obama get elected and re-elected? GOP just too virtuous to taint an election?

And keep Doctor King’s name out of your mouth. You’d have been the first to turn a fire hose on him, had you the chance.

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January 6, 2021 6:39 pm
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The fact that they’re doing it for Trump of all people. Not for Bush. Not for God-Emperor Reagan, mind you. But for Donald Trump. Ugh. I can’t.

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January 6, 2021 6:42 pm
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So for clarity you as an election official would have allowed a racist, traitorous, white supremacist, traitorous dictator to take office when you could prevent it?

Wow… not me. I have more love for my country than you.

By the way, cut with the dog whistle name calling; that is slander. Behave like an adult.

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January 6, 2021 6:50 pm
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What should the Dems have done? They haven’t had the authority (you know, legal authority) to do anything other than impeach the man. Outside of, you know, whipping his ass in an election.

Accusing someone of cheating based just on an incentive to cheat must keep you pretty damn busy on Facebook, Bill. Should we be investigating EVERY election, from POTUS to the local school board?

Why aren’t you accusing the Republicans of unsuccessfully attempting to steal the Presidential election? They had just as much incentive to do so, right?

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January 6, 2021 6:53 pm
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And among the six “fraud” states, why are Republican delegations still seating members elected from those states?

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January 6, 2021 7:23 pm
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One thing I can say about the Dems is that they don’t undermine elections unlike Republicans.

I find Republicans calling out dog whistles ironic.

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January 7, 2021 10:15 am
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So for clarity you as an election official would have allowed a racist, traitorous, white supremacist, traitorous dictator to take office when you could prevent it?

Listen to yourself. This literally happened in January 2016.

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January 6, 2021 7:08 pm
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WOW

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January 6, 2021 7:29 pm
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Did you know that the guys who’s party was in power – 4 years of a president, and 4 years of senate control, 3 supreme court justices, and 2 years of house control aren’t heard?

While it’s easy to poke fun at the idea (and the extreme humor of someone trying to defend trump by saying his oppositions lacks EMPATHY!!! oohmygodIamabsolutelydyinghere) – There’s something to it – people really don’t go smashing stuff and trying to harm people if they are getting what they need, and I don’t think this is really a surprise – have you met any Trump supporters who were getting the nurturing they really needed? I haven’t either in person or online.

I Wonder what they’re afraid to say or what they’re representatives aren’t listening to?

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January 6, 2021 7:31 pm
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Please help me understand though, for the last 4 years the Dems have been claiming that Trump is a racist, White Supremacist, traitorous, Dictator.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, that’s because that’s what he is?

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January 6, 2021 7:50 pm
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He’s a wannabe dictator instead of an actual dictator, but that’s only b/c of safeguards in the system.

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January 6, 2021 8:42 pm
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MLK denounced violence in that same speech.. I’m not a Trump fan and dislike Biden and Harris just as much as Trump.. but don’t misuse MLK’s speech as he clearly stated he was against violence. I despise the violent actions of the small percentage of protestors that breached the capital.. is was abhorrent and I hope they face swift justice, I am happy to so many politicians denounce the actions, and to see it without qualifications. Something Many would not do this summer..

I support everyone’s right to peacefully protest, but the moment they turn violent and destroy property then they become criminals…

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January 7, 2021 10:05 am
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If that be the case, why would any Democrat official NOT cheat to make sure Trump lost? Would that not be the moral thing to do?

But they didn’t. And many of the people in charge of “contested” states are not Democrats.

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January 6, 2021 6:30 pm

I’d really like to watch the game tonight. I could use a break after having CSPAN on since the early morning. This is a major historical moment, and I’m not willing to have “experts” explain it to me after the fact. Having said that…

GO KINGS!

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January 6, 2021 7:30 pm

Where’s the game thread yo?!?!

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January 6, 2021 7:33 pm
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it’s right here – Will said so in the article above btw.

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January 6, 2021 7:40 pm
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Oh ok thx

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January 6, 2021 7:42 pm
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the skill set of BJelly is just amazing….

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January 6, 2021 7:33 pm

lol we can escape to Bagley’s total ineptitude around the basket, he almost screwed up that perfect alley from Ty

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January 6, 2021 7:38 pm
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Bagley is pretty lucky today…
and lucky is important for playing basketball

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January 6, 2021 8:05 pm

He has a double double in the first half. Playing well.

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January 6, 2021 7:37 pm

It’s hilarious that a rookie is the teams smartest player and probably their best.

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January 6, 2021 7:55 pm
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man he’s just a winning player.

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January 6, 2021 7:42 pm

i don’t even watch the game unless Halliburton is playing. We all know what they are without him

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January 6, 2021 7:49 pm

Holmes has not played good defensive/rebounding ball tonight

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January 6, 2021 7:54 pm

Fox hurt his hammy. Will not return.

Bagley playing pretty well.

Ball is moving around the perimeter.

Hali is playing well, so Kings are too.

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January 6, 2021 7:59 pm

Why does Bagley do that like twice every game? He is always stripped. He is not a point guard.

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January 6, 2021 8:07 pm
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this guy never learn….and tell someone to send him tape or my Gifs

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January 6, 2021 7:59 pm

Is there no game thread?

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January 6, 2021 8:19 pm

This is it. It’s a combo plate tonight: Kings and politics.

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January 6, 2021 8:20 pm
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Considering we have a guy who wants to be a Kings running our country, it is fitting.

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January 6, 2021 8:28 pm
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I can respect that. I did nothing but follow the white terrorist insurrection at the U.S. Capitol earlier today. But I’ll be damned if a bunch of cross-eyed white nationalists wearing buffalo skin and red hats are going to stop me from watching the Kings potentially blow a second half lead against the Bulls.

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January 6, 2021 8:31 pm

Hell hath no fury like fans being denied their opportunity to watch a bad basketball team.

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January 6, 2021 8:33 pm
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Right?

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January 6, 2021 8:40 pm

If those are the options, I probably prefer tyranny, tbh.

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January 6, 2021 7:59 pm

Just gonna assume a turnover whenever we see Point Bagley

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January 6, 2021 7:59 pm

lol Bagley, everyone saw that coming a mile away

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January 6, 2021 8:00 pm

Are you serious ? Bagley…
not again..please….

1 vs 4 ..and the ball being stripped again

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January 6, 2021 8:03 pm

he didn’t outlet to Ty either. Bruh, give up the ball to the guy who been hookin you up.

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January 6, 2021 8:03 pm

Coby White just blew by Bagley

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January 6, 2021 8:06 pm

why Walton did not put in CoJo for defense on Lavine in last second ?

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January 6, 2021 8:18 pm

Why do I get the feeling that Bagley may put up 30 and 20 but the Kings still lose?

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January 6, 2021 8:31 pm
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I’ll take my chances with that. He made a really nice pass to Buddy who rimmed out a 3. Gives me hope when ever I can say Bagley and pass

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January 6, 2021 8:21 pm

You can see the Kings can’t stop 2 players – Levine and Coby White. It will be hard for them to win this game without being able contain those 2 guys. And I think Levine will likely have another gear in the 4th qtr. Go Kings.

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January 6, 2021 8:31 pm
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I hate to say it, but Whiteside might help slow down those guards at the rim right now.

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January 6, 2021 8:30 pm

Hali really got some good sight at finding open teammate

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January 6, 2021 8:30 pm

Bagley having his€even a blind squirrel finds a nut€ moment

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January 6, 2021 8:30 pm

Watching Bagley move off-ball is now my preferred way to watch the Kings.

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January 6, 2021 8:32 pm
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He’s playing much better help defense today imo

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January 6, 2021 8:34 pm
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Hustling, rebounding with authority, shooting well. Much better today.

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January 6, 2021 8:36 pm
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yeah but its all because his 3’s went down. When they don’t he gives a piss poor effort. He needs to do this when he isn’t shooting well.

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January 6, 2021 8:38 pm
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No it isn’t. He had a double double before he sunk the consecutive three’s. He is playing much better tonight. That’s a good thing in my book.

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January 6, 2021 8:41 pm
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he is playing better because he did get some putbacks but Ty has set him up nicely a couple of times. He still did his lead the fast break move right into a turnover as well as still being scored on easy. But yeah maybe I’m too hard on him today. I just see the same glaring faults as always.

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January 6, 2021 8:44 pm
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When he plays well I’ll give him his due, when he isn’t it’s fair game. He is having a good game tonight and helping on D. I agree he is benefitting from playmakers, but that’s movement basketball.

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January 6, 2021 8:45 pm
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true, and he definitely deserves 4th quarter mins tonight. So it will be good to see how he does in crunch time.

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January 6, 2021 8:46 pm
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That is spot on. Let’s see how he does in the pressure cooker minutes.

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January 6, 2021 8:58 pm
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He does.

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January 6, 2021 8:35 pm
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He is, but the Bulls also aren’t running anything fancy.

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January 6, 2021 8:33 pm

This is a game that should earn Bagley some 4th quarter run

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January 6, 2021 8:40 pm

Zach LaVine is smooth, man.

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January 6, 2021 8:46 pm
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How bout Colby white god damn

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January 6, 2021 8:49 pm
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He looks good doesn’t he. Very efficient. Lights out shooting tonight.

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January 6, 2021 8:59 pm
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He’s reminding me of a young Conley.

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January 6, 2021 8:42 pm

Why can’t Bags play like this every game?

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January 6, 2021 8:50 pm
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Because he’s playing against some weak sauce bigs!

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January 6, 2021 8:53 pm
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I kidda agree

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Experience, maybe. Maybe not.

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January 6, 2021 8:50 pm

Bagley making me eat my earlier criticisms. Good for him. Now let’s put a run together and get this win.

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January 6, 2021 8:50 pm

Otto Porter is 1 for 8 with 3 points. Harrison Barnes is 5 for 6 for 15 points. I would still trade Barnes for Porter in a millisecond. Unloads a crap ton of Kings salary. Can we swap at the end of the game?

Also, credit to Bagley for putting up efficient offensive numbers tonight. No assists, but we have to take what we can get.

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January 6, 2021 8:52 pm
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Bagley even looking for assist over throw Belly and Buddy miss gives me hope oh and throw in the Finn for some 2nd rounders

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January 6, 2021 8:54 pm
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What do you spend that money on you use by trading Barnes away?

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January 7, 2021 7:44 am
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Obviously golf carts

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January 7, 2021 3:21 pm
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Better to have cap space than not. You might be able to take on guys from teams that are capped out, mid-level players squeezed by falling cap size over the next few years, or bad deals for picks, though I realize this is relatively rare.

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January 6, 2021 8:50 pm

I like aggressive/assertive Bagley, although is he playing like this because Fox is out or the drama of the past few days, or just because the Bulls aren’t very good… 🤷🏻€™‚️

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January 6, 2021 8:51 pm

How many times has White and Lavine driven right into Bags and made the shot?

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January 6, 2021 8:54 pm

BUT HE NEEDS 30 MINUTES!

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January 6, 2021 8:52 pm

Perfect opportunity to give Guy some minutes against White.

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January 6, 2021 9:04 pm

Cory havin an off night eh?

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January 6, 2021 8:55 pm

Gotta give MBIII credit so far tonight. He’s perfectly capable of giving this every night. Hopefully it continues.

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January 6, 2021 8:57 pm
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Look at the Bigs he’s playing against! He’s a PF/C version of Wiggins. Shows up when the eatin’ is good and doesn’t when they play good teams.

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January 6, 2021 9:00 pm

I agree with this. We need to take in the Bulls factor here.

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January 7, 2021 10:26 am

I’ve been super harsh on MBIII. He played well. Gotta give some props.

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January 6, 2021 8:57 pm

Well since the law was totally ignored today I can only hope Lawlor’s Law prevails tonight

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January 6, 2021 9:01 pm
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I see what you did there

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January 6, 2021 8:59 pm

Draper: “Bagley in his defensive stance!” I didn’t know he had one.

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January 6, 2021 9:00 pm

Is Colby White better than DeAaron Fox?

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January 6, 2021 9:01 pm

Oh Hali yes

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January 6, 2021 9:04 pm

Another 30 thrilling minutes for CoJo

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January 6, 2021 9:04 pm

NO reason to have CoJo try to initiate the offense when Hali is on the court…unless the Kings goal is to lose this game.

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January 6, 2021 9:04 pm

Garbage azz Bjelica just gave the Bulls the momentum with that flagrant foul than bad defense for Bulls dunk

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January 6, 2021 9:09 pm
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Richaun having a very nice game onD and rebounding start….

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January 6, 2021 9:05 pm

In all seriousness, wouldn’t Whiteside help win some of the attacks at the basket LaVine and White are doing right now?

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One would think so.

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January 6, 2021 9:06 pm
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For sure. Just not sure he can keep pace with their young bigs.

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January 6, 2021 9:05 pm

Bjelica leading the tank tonight.

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January 6, 2021 9:05 pm

Yeah get Bjelica and CoJo out

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January 6, 2021 9:07 pm

Cojo is so damn bad.

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January 6, 2021 9:07 pm

Just let Hali take over

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January 6, 2021 9:10 pm
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its winning time bby

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January 6, 2021 9:07 pm

Tyrese! Everything is okay. We have Tyrese Haliburton! That’s all that matters!

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January 6, 2021 9:09 pm

Team Bagley is getting mad!

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January 6, 2021 9:22 pm

Team Hali is pumped though!

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January 6, 2021 9:10 pm

Damn Buddy…make a 3

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January 6, 2021 9:10 pm

I keep thinking 22 is DRose

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January 6, 2021 9:10 pm

Lol. Buddy is 2/14 from the field.

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January 6, 2021 9:12 pm

Yet Bags who is playing well can’t get crunch time minutes. Lol

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January 6, 2021 9:17 pm

Bang bang bang

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January 6, 2021 9:22 pm
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And, bang. Four point play.

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January 6, 2021 9:11 pm

Barnes…the drive and the dish to GR ….

Good job

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January 6, 2021 9:11 pm

I know folks are going to like Bagley tonight, and rightfully so, but I think Hali is the MVP so far. He’s stepped up to replace FOX and has excelled.

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January 6, 2021 9:13 pm
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F that! Holmes is the MVP!

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January 6, 2021 9:13 pm

Yeah, he might be!

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January 6, 2021 9:15 pm
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I don’t remember who said it in a different thread, but someone commented that Hali might be in a season or two the best player on the team. Watching this game makes me think that might be the case, which I think would be exactly what Fox needs. Hali can be star 1 and Fox 1A.

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January 6, 2021 9:17 pm
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He’s already looking like the best player.

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January 6, 2021 9:32 pm
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He does doesn’t he?

Gary Geroud is interviewing him on the radio right now…€I could have done a little more…they gave me the option to play and of course I am going to play. My job off the bench is to bring energy. My job is to push the pace. I think I did that. They (front line) did a good job, I have to reward them if they are going to play hard. As a point guard I am the team Mom and I have to help them play well (last phrase is a paraphrase.

if you can get the clip of the interview it is flat great.

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January 6, 2021 9:39 pm
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530,

How do you think Bagley did in the 4th? He played the first 6:30 or so, but not the last minutes, perhaps due to match ups, perhaps experience, perhaps using vets to win the game, and perhaps his D still needs work to earn the crunch minutes (that’s a yes on the last point for me).

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January 6, 2021 9:18 pm
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And to think…Hali is over 7 years younger than Buddy.

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January 6, 2021 9:35 pm
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Burt is already the most impactful player on the team and just right behind Fox as the best player. All while playing in his 6th NBA game. He plays with the poise and composure of a seasoned vet. Wow, bright future for the kid.

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January 6, 2021 9:19 pm
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Been a pretty good team effort tonight. Buddy with the four point play even stepped up on a very poor shooting night. Hali kept the offense flowing. Holmes has had a great game

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January 6, 2021 9:14 pm

The Holmes/Hali PnR is real.

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January 6, 2021 9:17 pm

Buddy picked a good time to hit a shot

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January 6, 2021 9:18 pm
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BIG bucket by Hield

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January 6, 2021 9:18 pm

That was timely for our gaurds to finally hit a shot 13 for 41 tonight.. our front court has been awesome… Halliburton is the real deal….

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January 6, 2021 9:19 pm

HALI!!!!!!

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January 6, 2021 9:20 pm

WOW!!!

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January 6, 2021 9:20 pm

HALIBURTON WITH THE DAGGER!

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January 6, 2021 9:20 pm

Hali with two threes drifting to the side!

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January 6, 2021 9:20 pm

Ty-Muthafukin-Rese Haliburton!!!!!

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January 6, 2021 9:20 pm

HALI HALI HALI

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January 6, 2021 9:20 pm

HALI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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January 6, 2021 9:20 pm

HALI Shit! This kid is amazing!!!

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January 6, 2021 9:21 pm

You knew that was going in when it left his hands. I love that. Love this kid.

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January 6, 2021 9:21 pm

Nice game by Holmes wouldn’t you agree starz?

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January 6, 2021 9:21 pm

It’s just crazy that he still able to pump fake the shot….just high BBIQ

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January 6, 2021 9:21 pm

Halitime

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January 6, 2021 9:21 pm

And now he gets the steal on the inbounds play. Dude is unbelievable

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January 6, 2021 9:22 pm

Dude, Hali also with 4 offensive rebounds and 3 steals. Legit.

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January 6, 2021 9:22 pm

Can we give Tyrese De’Aaron’s contract? And trade De-Aaron for Colby White?

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January 6, 2021 9:23 pm

Wow.. 17 PG’s 7 boards 6 assists 2 steals 1 block multiple deflections and 0 turnovers…

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January 6, 2021 9:24 pm
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15 in the 4th

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January 6, 2021 9:24 pm
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The zero TO’s is amaze balls.

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January 6, 2021 9:23 pm

Kinsz not Kangz. Don’t F it up in the last 2.6 seconds

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January 6, 2021 9:25 pm

I’m loving that everyone on the Kings has an assist…..everyone….except MBIII. =/

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January 6, 2021 9:29 pm
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He made a great pass leading Buddy into an in rhythm 3 that rimmed out. Gives me hope he is even looking to pass. He had a good game tonight

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January 6, 2021 9:51 pm
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Even one pass that actually would have gone in doesn’t make Marv any kind of passer, Belli has 5 dimes in 10 fewer minutes.

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January 6, 2021 9:25 pm

D. Fox who?

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January 6, 2021 9:27 pm
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Now, now. We need Fox. But, yeah.

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January 6, 2021 9:25 pm

Holmes and Haliburton MVPs!

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January 6, 2021 9:27 pm

Hali is absolutely legit! That was a great game especially after a crazy day! Props to Bagley for having a good day. He drove me crazy early in the game but started playing much better. Holmes was great as well. Fun game all around! Go Kings!

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January 6, 2021 9:27 pm

Glenn Robinson 3 had a really nice impactful game with very timely makes on shots at critical points in the game. Quiet excellence in his role.

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January 6, 2021 9:28 pm

gREAT WIN!

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January 6, 2021 9:30 pm
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You can say that again! WTF is your problem?

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January 6, 2021 9:28 pm

Ty is on the radio with Gary right now.

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January 6, 2021 9:30 pm

Kings are 4-2 with Halli on the court. 0-2 without him.

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January 6, 2021 9:31 pm

Most satisfying win. Buddy with the timely 3, Haliburton electric in the 4th. Holmes beasting, Marvin with great production. Virtually all without Fox. What’s that bandage on Tyrese’s chest? Tattoo?

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January 7, 2021 7:48 am
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I think it might be some icy hot bandages. Probably for muscle aches.

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January 6, 2021 9:33 pm

Hali-Luka! Holy shit, where’s the Tylenol!

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January 6, 2021 9:36 pm

Imagine how bad we lose if burton doesn’t play. He does the small things that make a difference and don’t show up on the box score; Bagley and Buddy would be trying that iso shit

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January 6, 2021 9:38 pm

Love Hali so damn much!

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January 6, 2021 9:46 pm

Anyone know why Koz was back and draper was on the broadcast?

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January 6, 2021 9:47 pm
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When Jones has his ESPN duties they are the second team.

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