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Around The Realm: NBA Free Agent Moratorium Ends at 9 AM PT

Friday will see trades become official, and could hold some surprises
By | 146 Comments | Aug 6, 2021

Credit: Bob DeChiara-USA TODAY Sports

The NBA free agency moratorium ends today at 9 AM PT. As noted by ESPN’s Bobby Marks, this means several different things can start happening:

We expect the Delon Wright/Tristan Thompson trade to be made official today, but we still haven’t heard any additional details about what the final deal will look like.

One other team to keep an eye on is the Charlotte Hornets. Last night they agreed to a deal with Kelly Oubre, using most of their remaining cap space.

Charlotte already had a bit of a minutes crunch for all of their forwards. Charlotte now has Gordon Hayward, PJ Washington, Cody Martin, Caleb Martin, Kelly Oubre, Miles Bridges, and Jalen McDaniels. The Hornets were also rumored to be interested in Lauri Markkanen, a restricted free agent. Is that interest dead? Are they still going to work it as a sign-and-trade? It seems like Charlotte could still have more moves up their sleeve.

It should be an interesting day for the NBA landscape. Use this thread to discuss all the moves and news, and we’ll post an update for any Kings specific news that may happen.

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1951
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August 6, 2021 7:55 am

Come on Monte!
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August 6, 2021 8:19 am
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Joking me, see above.

Reality me, see below.
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August 6, 2021 9:36 am
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Yeah, I expect to be disappointed.
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August 6, 2021 9:40 am
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Kings fans: We want Simmons or Siakam!

Kings fans an hour later: Okay, we will take Markkanen!

Kings fans after that: Um, DeMarcus?
Kings reality:
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August 6, 2021 9:47 am
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Going into free agency:comment image
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August 6, 2021 10:14 am
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I just realized, Bill Murray was antagonized by a little animal in Caddyshack, and then had his world turned upside down by another little animal in Groundhog Day.
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August 6, 2021 10:15 am
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Yes. Cocaine is a tricky little animal!

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August 6, 2021 10:25 am
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…and now he spends his days playfully antagonizing people. What a life.

In 2009, I was a bartender at a hipster haven in Austin, TX, and during South By Southwest, he and two members of Wu-Tang wandered into our packed bar. Within twenty minutes, Bill was behind the bar serving customers. No matter what anyone ordered, he’d just say “you’ll have Jameson” and would pour them a shot and move onto the next person. This was all highly illegal, but we were so taken aback that we just let it happen. This lasted for fifteen minutes or so, and then he simply vanished.

The man is a national treasure.

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August 6, 2021 10:35 am

Wow!

Thanks for sharing that story, MNT. 🙂 That’s incredible.

I’d like him to come to Sacramento and bring some of that magic to the Kings that he lent to the Cubs.

Make it happen, Vivek!

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August 6, 2021 10:45 am
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Yea! I’ll take one day of Bill Murray over Ben Simmons’ remaining contract any day.

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August 6, 2021 10:52 am
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Breaking: The Sacramento Kings trade De’Aaron Fox for Bill Murray.

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August 6, 2021 12:17 pm
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It’s just crazy enough to work!
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August 6, 2021 12:57 pm
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I would love to hear him do commentary alongside Kyle Draper.

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August 6, 2021 12:56 pm

He really is. The stuff he and Tom Hanks do when among mere mortals is invariably fun. Both guys started as stand-ups, so I’m sure they have a hard time passing up opportunities to clown.

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August 6, 2021 10:44 am
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August 6, 2021 10:55 am
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August 6, 2021 12:58 pm
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How many faces ago was this for her?

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Breaking News: Kings sign DMC and now have a new jersey sponsorcomment image

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August 6, 2021 12:09 pm
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“Giving you and your balls the protection you need.”
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August 6, 2021 12:12 pm
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“…protection against Dennis Scrotum not guaranteed.”comment image

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August 6, 2021 1:21 pm
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Technical: Cousins!

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August 6, 2021 1:36 pm
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The reminds me how happy I am that we have a different #15 now….

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August 6, 2021 8:01 am

Let’s go big game hunting today, Monte!

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August 6, 2021 8:13 am

Bring me Lauri Markkanen.

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August 6, 2021 8:59 am
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I don’t spend time looking at sites for other teams, but are there other fanbases that have people clamoring to get Lauri Markkanen? His own team didn’t feel the need to offer him even the RFA deal, and the rest of the league appears equally disinterested. I think the guy is soft, and I’m not referring to his injury history, which is significant. He’s a guy that gets pushed around, and would need to hit threes at a rate of at least 45% in order to be a net positive.

I wasn’t an advocate when he was in draft discussions a few years ago, and wouldn’t be happy to have him in Sacramento other than under the most minimal, team-friendly deal.

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August 6, 2021 9:14 am
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I was reading the spurs wanted him in the sign and trade for DeRozan, only he wouldn’t sign for less than 20 million a year.

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August 6, 2021 9:15 am
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Ewww. I like LaurMark, but not at $20M.

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August 6, 2021 9:33 am

I know. I was shocked when I saw what he was asking for. This will end poorly for him and he’ll be left holding the bag.

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August 6, 2021 9:52 am
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Wait, I thought players wanted the bag these days.

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August 6, 2021 10:01 am
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Bonzi’d

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August 6, 2021 10:15 am
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The Kings’ll be left holding the Bagley.

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August 6, 2021 11:05 am
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Schroder’d

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August 6, 2021 9:19 am
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Pass. He is nowhere near worth that. I might even need some convincing that he’s worth Bagley money at around $11M per year, because that is what it would take for a S&T.

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August 6, 2021 10:56 am
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I’d rather have another year hoping Bagley actually ends up showing something, honestly (even though I know it’s a lost cause).

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August 6, 2021 11:55 am
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I would take Markennan over Bagley in a heartbeat in a S&T. He would help open the floor for our guards. Neither guy is going to give you much defense but Markennan would help to make our offense hum.

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August 6, 2021 3:05 pm
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I’d imagine that a typical Bulls fan would see it in the exact opposite way. High draft picks that don’t pan out breed contempt like crazy.

You get a hint of it when you look at comments from other fans about how much they’d love to have Hield in their back court. While acknowledging his shortcomings, I don’t think he’s remotely as bad as he’s often portrayed here, and my guess is that he’ll absolutely thrive in a system (literally any system. We have none here) where he’s got better talent around him. I’d hoped that it would happen here, but given how far off that’s likely to be, may as well shop him.

I hope Bagley and Markkanen both get healthy and can at least approach the high expectations placed on them.

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August 6, 2021 5:35 pm
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I was just thinking about the strength of the team (Ty Fox Davion) and who complements them better, Markennan or Bagley, and that is an easy call.

I don’t particularly like Bagley in roll or either. Holmes is better and Len is better too because even though he’s not a great roll man his picks are bone crushing. Metu is also better on the pick and pop because he’s more dynamic out of the triple threat position.

Also if we are going to move on from Buddy we should replace his shooting with a shooter like Markennan. Bagley is not a three point shooter, 34% despite being mostly unguarded and disrespected.

The opponent wants Bagley to shoot 3s, not so with Markennen.

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August 6, 2021 9:20 am
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Divide that shit by ten, and I consider thinking about it. I suppose Mo Wagner wanted to get something in that neighborhood before being signed as a paddock goat for his little brother in Orlando.

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August 6, 2021 11:19 am
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He’s better than Bagley.

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August 6, 2021 9:32 am
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Lauri isn’t getting what he thought he would, I’d take a flyer on him on a fair deal. There’s minutes for him on the Kings at the 4, perhaps that lures him into signing a prove it deal with us.
I’m guessing a S&T for Bagley would work, both teams can take flyers on draft busts.

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August 6, 2021 8:14 am

Let’s see how excited I can get today just to be let down. I’m sooooooo good at this. Why? I’m a Kings fan. Duh 🙄

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August 6, 2021 9:33 am
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You’re not excites about finalizing the TT trade? 😂

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August 6, 2021 9:01 am

If we don’t end the day with Ben Simmons, Pascal Siakam, Kelly Oubre, AND De’Aaron Fox, Tyrese Haliburton, and God on our roster, I will be disillusioned. Prove yourself, Mr. McNair.

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August 6, 2021 9:04 am
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I was just thinking, as of today what are the chances the Kings roll out the exact same starting lineup as last year in Fox, Buddy, Barnes, Bagley, and Holmes.

Right now they may be one of a few, if not the only team that has the ability to do so.

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August 6, 2021 9:11 am
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Consistency!
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High

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August 6, 2021 9:17 am
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“Basketball reasons.”

(I don’t expect this to happen. They’ve clearly been trying to deal Bagley and Buddy since the deadline. If they can’t get a deal done, that’s not a good look.)

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August 6, 2021 9:25 am
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I really hope you are right, but it still blows my mind that a team that has missed the playoffs for 15 straight years still have all the starting 5 from last season on their roster.

Even worse, it is the same projected starting 5 from the end of the 2019-2020 season!!!

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August 6, 2021 9:26 am
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And the same coach!

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August 6, 2021 9:28 am
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I was told that consistency matters. It matters alright, consistently bad for 15 going on 16 years now.

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August 6, 2021 10:04 am
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Yeah, the signature of this front office has been inaction, and the bar is so low people are happy they re-signed their own free agents from a bad team. Those moves aren’t bad moves, but they’re not improving the team either. I expect movement. McNair has to know that no movement followed by 35 wins will put him on the hot seat in a major way.

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Proof is in the pudding, as they say. Potential/almost completed deals don’t mean shit.

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August 6, 2021 10:35 am
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But they are trying!!!

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August 6, 2021 10:37 am
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Yoda’d

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August 6, 2021 10:37 am
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“Playoffs or playoffs-not. There is no Play-in.”
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August 6, 2021 10:37 am
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I tell my wife I am trying!!!

But I think she still wants to trade me for a second rounder and Cash Considerations.

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August 6, 2021 10:38 am
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They may be the most trying team in professional sports.

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August 6, 2021 11:51 am
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Trying…but god it must be hard to convince other teams to take players you don’t want off your hands when you work for the Kings.

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August 6, 2021 10:46 am
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I mean, look at trader ainge and his almost deals.

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August 6, 2021 1:01 pm
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I’m not sure how re-signing your best unrestricted free agent to a fair contract without needing to jettison players or picks qualifies as inaction, but go off.

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August 6, 2021 1:05 pm
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Wait a minute Sims, there’s more!

If Holmes hadn’t been resigned, he wouldn’t have been properly utilized as an asset, either! But if he’s resigned, it’s just whatever!

Oh wait, that’s only if you run back a roster you didn’t have all season and resign players you brought in at the trade deadline.

I’m getting confused. Excuse me while I go kick myself in the nuts because that at least makes sense regardless of how stupidly painful it in fact is.

At least I have cornbread in the oven so I’ve going that going for me which is nice.

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Did you see the upgrades to backup PG and C?

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August 6, 2021 1:58 pm
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No. Where are they?

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August 6, 2021 9:05 am
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Well, with Oubre gone already …

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August 6, 2021 9:07 am
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The plan has been ruined before it could even get started.

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August 6, 2021 9:10 am
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August 6, 2021 9:10 am
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Every kings off-season for a long time now

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August 6, 2021 9:14 am
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I did that once! On a gravel track like that too! It really sucked.

I also wanted Oubre – this team has a Kelly Oubre sized hole at wing, but Monte apparently wants to jam a square peg (or a guard or cash considerations) into it.

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August 6, 2021 9:20 am

I’ve always felt like Oubre (and Kuzma) weren’t very good, so I’m not a big advocate for either. Too bad about Otto Porter going to GSW. Could have been a good get (or nothing at all if he can’t get healthy).

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August 6, 2021 9:22 am
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I feel like the Kings are down to Josh Hart as an available wing, and that is about it.

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August 6, 2021 9:29 am
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Not saying that is the swing for the fences I want, but Josh Hart would be a solid pick-up I’d be happy with.

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August 6, 2021 10:02 am
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He defends well, and can score when the opportunity arises. A team could do worse.

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August 6, 2021 10:08 am
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I like Josh Hart, but at some point they have to acquire an actual SF sized SF that is best played at SF, right?

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August 6, 2021 10:14 am

indeed

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August 6, 2021 10:24 am

Yes…

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August 6, 2021 10:16 am
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You’re right about Oubre for sure. He’s a bench warmer that teams give high usage to for some reason. His counting numbers look ok but his impact stats are always below average.

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August 6, 2021 9:44 am
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This is a stupendous find : )

You can see the girl’s coaches must be yelling at her from the sidelines, telling her to finish. Poor kid…not only the humiliating start but the also the longest 15 seconds of her short life coming up.

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August 6, 2021 11:07 am
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God is like 45 years old and his only NBA experience was 20 games in 97-98 when he was drafted by the Wizards

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Well, no sense putting off the inevitable…comment image

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Yup, 2022 draft scouting season is starting now. Who looks good in the 9-12 range?

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August 6, 2021 10:26 am
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Ouch.

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August 6, 2021 9:44 am

Just when I was getting more excited about Mitchell, Perk offers an opinion and now I am worried!

https://twitter.com/KendrickPerkins/status/1423653231738163206

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August 6, 2021 10:16 am
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Even a broken Kendrick Perkins is right twice a day.

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August 6, 2021 10:18 am
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Fixed:

Even the Sacramento Kings can have a winning record eight times in 36 years.

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August 6, 2021 10:24 am
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Took ’em 13 years to get there, been 15 years since. Yikes!

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August 6, 2021 10:40 am
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It’s kinda like my life trajectory.

The beginning was off to a rough start. Then it was pretty good for awhile.

And now I’ve missed the playoffs for 15 years.

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August 6, 2021 12:40 pm
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I don’t really want to break down the math but this means they are less consistent than a broken 12 hour clock.

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August 6, 2021 10:52 am
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Hoo tawt dat dood inglish?

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August 6, 2021 11:10 am
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Yeah, that made my head hurt.

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August 6, 2021 11:13 am
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The random capitalization gets me the most. Socks? Buckets?

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August 6, 2021 11:42 am

One of my pet peeves. We’ve got a bunch of realtors around here that constantly do it in their listing descriptions. I have to read that shit for work. Jesus people, is the proper use of capital letters that difficult? Why?

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August 6, 2021 11:46 am
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Lol What do You Do for a Living?

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August 6, 2021 11:52 am
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Hoo tawt dat dood inglish?

Good enough to be POTUS.

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August 6, 2021 1:02 pm
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Covfefed

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August 6, 2021 11:09 am
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Twitter grammar is something else.

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August 6, 2021 11:25 am
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I’m goin down down baby, yo’ street in a Range Rover
Street sweeper baby, cocked ready to let it go
Shimmy shimmy cocoa what? Listen to it pound
Light it up and take a puff, pass it to me now
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August 6, 2021 9:17 pm
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Atleast it wasn’t max kellerman, dude has said some dumb stuff when it comes to the nba

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August 6, 2021 10:08 am

So, does it mean today is the deadline to trade away Bagley / Hield ?
(Like I said before, they supposed to be already gone on draft night)

No more Bagley on this team, please!

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August 6, 2021 10:20 am

We need anther good sized wing/sf and was kind of hoping we could do a S&T for Oubre and give up buddy. It also looks like we will suffer through another year of Marvin Bagley.. I still think Marvin is going to be a decent NBA player or starter on a team that has a larger body they can defend centers but play on the perimeter; however it’s hard to watch him knowing he was the second pick and that he seems to think that he is on the level of being an NBA star when he can’t stay healthy, Or play team defense, or pass the ball.

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August 6, 2021 10:24 am
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He is the Darko of the 2018 draft. So many good players drafted around him (Ayton, Luka, JJJ, Trae)

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August 6, 2021 10:34 am
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How good would JJJ look on this team.. I would have traded with Dallas and I bet we could have had him. I think that Atl wanted Trae all along, so worse case scenario we draft Luka and keep him and at that time I think we had better talent than Dallas. Or trade and have Fifth Pick which probably would have been Trae or JJJ and we would’ve had a first round pick in 2019. I think that Memphis would’ve taken Bagley over JJJ . Worse case we still draft Bagley, and the expectations are not quite as high and maybe that helps his performance. At the end of the day we would’ve at least had a 2019 draft pick so the bust of Bagley would not have hurt so badly. We really screwed up that draft

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August 6, 2021 10:58 am
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Has JJJ really done much more than Bagley? His injuries are also all on his knee. MPJ would be the one to get.

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August 6, 2021 11:00 am
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I saw a better player than Bagley right before injury and when he came back, plus I think his game is more versatile

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August 6, 2021 11:58 am
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There’s some hype around jjj, but he is a much better player than bagley and fits what is needed of a modern big.

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August 6, 2021 10:52 am

I know folks aren’t super high on him, but if Simmons and siakam aren’t in the cards, how about Wiggins? Again, all he needs to do on the kings is play hard d and play uptempo ball with fox and haliburton.

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August 6, 2021 11:16 am
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As a small market team that can’t go over the cap, I don’t think you want that much salary on him, unfortunately. I like him other than that.

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August 6, 2021 11:17 am

This is something BabyGiraffe is positing on Twitter and I’m all for it.

Bagley for Lauri S&T.
Buddy for Hart S&T.

PG: Fox, Mitchell
G: Hali, Hart, Davis
F: Barnes, Mo
PF: Lauri
C: Holmes, Len

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August 6, 2021 11:39 am
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Don’t be mad when they’re the 10-12 seed for the next five years then.

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August 6, 2021 11:56 am
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Yeah, I don’t see a lot of needle movers there. They need to deal at least one first to get a better asset.

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August 6, 2021 12:00 pm
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this is the type of return you’re getting for bagley and buddy, you aren’t getting needle movers. So why not take a shot on a guy like Lauri who has so much potential on offense.

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August 6, 2021 12:04 pm
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Because Buddy, Marv, and firsts might get you a needle mover.

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August 6, 2021 12:09 pm
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Or you add in Barnes for one of the two, or potentially Fox or Halliburton for a legit all star, as much as I hate to say it.

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August 6, 2021 11:21 am

My prediction:

Svi Mxztiplk

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August 6, 2021 11:29 am
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My prediction?

French bread.
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August 6, 2021 11:42 am

I think Buddy’s twitter might be able to give us a clue about anything that might be happening.

Let’s check to see what he’s tweeted today:

https://twitter.com/buddyhield/status/1423658782941405190?s=20

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August 6, 2021 12:00 pm
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It’s so odd how he tweets this everyday.
Like how about just not tweeting? 🤷‍♂️

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August 6, 2021 12:05 pm
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Maybe that is his thing. Spread his message for gratitude that he is alive and healthy.

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August 6, 2021 12:05 pm
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How about strength to play defense?

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August 6, 2021 11:46 am

I’m not good at internet, but maybe this turns into the Buddy Deal.

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August 6, 2021 12:02 pm
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I’m guessing Dennis isn’t getting that 4 year $80 or $90 million contract he rejected from the lakers.
A lot of players overplayed their hand this FA period, guessing a lot of agents will be getting fired.

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August 6, 2021 12:06 pm
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Yeah, I couldn’t believe Schroeder turned that deal down last year. How much more did he think he was going to make?

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August 6, 2021 12:21 pm
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It likely would be a vet minimum deal or maybe he fits into some exception they have. Either way, I bet it would only be for one year so he could hit free agency next year.

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August 6, 2021 12:28 pm
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And we get Jaylen Brown, right?

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August 6, 2021 12:35 pm

Unless Monte can get a difference make in a blockbusterr, I see no reason to just dump Hield and Bagley for meh assets. Better to wait til trade deadline and see what happens.

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August 6, 2021 1:06 pm
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Agreed. I seem to recall a lot of people being very upset when Holmes wasn’t traded for even a second-rounder or two. You just don’t give assets away so that people who demand action can have a brief moment of satisfaction.

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August 6, 2021 1:17 pm
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Receipts on “a lot of people being very upset when Holmes wasn’t traded for even a second-rounder or two.”?

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August 6, 2021 3:13 pm
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hah, pick nearly any thread going back six months, or just do a search for “give him/them away for a bag of chips.”

The internet is easily the greatest place ever created for being stupid, and that includes suggesting that no one has ever been so stupid.

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August 6, 2021 3:18 pm
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People were saying Holmes for a bag of chips?? I understand Hield for a bag of chips (I have said that many times), but Holmes?

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August 6, 2021 5:38 pm
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I suppose variations of “not moving Holmes was a Hindenburg-sized failure” might yield better results.

Oh, the inanity.

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August 6, 2021 1:09 pm
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I see where this narrative is headed.

Might as well hire Trump to be new PR lead ….

“We got so many great, fantastic trade offers for our players, they are still coming in. We wouldn’t be foolish enough to accept an offer yet because teams are still calling, in fact multiple teams are calling right now … (going off the cuff) but with so many calls we’ve had to pause. Our players are simply so fantastic WE AREN’T TRADING ANY OF THEM, we are keeping them and going to win so many championships you won’t be able to count them.”

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August 6, 2021 1:52 pm
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I have no idea what this even means. You don’t give away great shooting players if it’s not part of a bigger deal to get an impact player. No matter what you think of Hield, he has value.

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August 6, 2021 4:43 pm
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I am being silly. I do agree with your comment.

The situation is a let down with all the bellowing Kings management did over the last month about re-shaping the roster and dramatic moves. Instead they re-signed their own players, no big draft moves, no big trades.

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August 6, 2021 5:40 pm
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If there’s one thing about Monte McNair, it’s that he’s always bellowing. You can’t get the guy to shut up.

jfc

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August 6, 2021 1:11 pm
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And say what you will about the failed Laker trade, I believe it did increase Buddy’s value.

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August 6, 2021 1:41 pm

FYI: Heard Bobby Marks on the Deuce and Mo Show. He said that if the Buddy to Lakers deal went down, it would have been Kuzma and Harkless only, not the 22.

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August 6, 2021 3:15 pm
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I’m assuming that you mean Harrell, and it’s still a decent return. Not great, but not a fleecing.

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August 6, 2021 6:38 pm
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No way it is a decent return for just Harrel and Kuzma…….

Buddy Hield worths more than just two players……(at least it would be called fair if the #22 pick is included)

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