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The Kings are bad again. Where do they go from here?

Two weeks later, same old Kings. Listen to Jerry, Will, and Tony break down all the latest Kings news and notes.

The Kings Herald Show returns with two more weeks of bad Sacramento Kings basketball to discuss. Listen to Jerry Reynolds, Will Griffith, and Tony Xypteras talk Kings problems, trade deadline strategy, Monte McNair's job security, the regression of Harrison Barnes, and more on the latest episode of The Kings Herald Show.

 

 

Timestamps:
  • (1:45) How bad are the Kings right now, and is the season salvageable?
  • (3:00) What is Monte McNair and the front office staff thinking?
  • (6:30) Is there anything Alvin Gentry can do to improve the Kings internally?
  • (8:40) The Buddy Hield problem
  • (11:45) What is wrong with Harrison Barnes?
  • (18:20) What do the Kings need to do at the trade deadline?
  • (47:30) Let’s talk about something that isn’t the Sacramento Kings
  • (55:00) Patreon Question of the Week

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PlayoffModeT
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January 11, 2022 11:03 am

Great pod! Can’t wait to hear the Neemi takes next time.

I enjoy the chemistry you all share. Rip to Betty White, John Madden, and Bob Saget, they were very impactful to me too.

Lastly, thanks, Jerry for being our Madden!

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January 11, 2022 11:15 am

Another great one and the best reason for following the Kings ! A lot of good ideas but none likely to be followed !

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January 11, 2022 11:36 am

The Kings are bad again. Where do they go from here?

I know where Kings fans go from here!

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January 11, 2022 11:45 am
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Back to the Puketure XVI:
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“Talent? Where we’re going, we don’t need talent.”

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January 11, 2022 12:15 pm

Great stuff.
Really some interesting observations about Barnes by both Jerry and Tony.

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January 11, 2022 12:32 pm

We shouldn’t add talent because the players on the roster haven’t earned it.

That is some truly novel shit.

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January 11, 2022 12:46 pm

Haha, oh my god:

So you don’t think it was Ranadive’s plan to have an unexciting team that goes nowhere, so the current situation is mostly on McNair.

I’m doubtful that any owner, even for a tanking club, plans to field an unexciting team that sucks.

Do you think there’s a possibility that Ranadive might have wanted to put an exciting team on the floor that can make the playoffs, but put a player or players off-limits as far as who McNair could deal? And may have made a complete roster teardown a non-starter?

This possibility, for better or worse, has the benefit of at least being feasible.

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January 11, 2022 1:22 pm
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What he wants to do and what happens are not at all related.

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January 11, 2022 1:51 pm

Doesn’t remotely address what I’m talking about, but I do understand that you feel compelled to respond, so don’t beat yourself up.

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January 11, 2022 3:46 pm
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“……Ranadive might have wanted to put an exciting team on the floor that can make the playoffs, but put a player or players off-limits as far as who McNair could deal? And may have made a complete roster teardown a non-starter?”

This is what every NBA team does. Protects two or three players as their core. Put role players around them. Make trades and free agent deals for role players that fit around the core.

Have the Kings owned by Ranadive ever successfully done this?

Haha, oh my god

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January 11, 2022 5:16 pm

Who would those three players be, the ones that absolutely under no circumstances can be traded? Who is in this core? Which three do you propose be built around?

Counting to three is going to be even harder than normal.

Have the Kings owned by Ranadive ever successfully done this?

Are you actually asking? Or are you saying that doing “what every NBA team does” is simply off the table, because no one in the front office has thought of it?

I have no idea what McNair’s intentions are, or if he actually has free rein to do as he sees fit. I do know that McNair is a sharp guy, and not a dopey ex-jock who needs to be friends with everyone.

And even if McNair is being given all the rope he wants, he still has to work around your exalted three-man core, doesn’t he?

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January 11, 2022 9:27 pm
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My point is simple. The entire NBA defines a core of two or three players. They eventually find these people. Then they put role players around them. That is the intelligent and simplest way to build a team.

The Kings have failed to find legitimate players to build around and have also failed at finding legitimate NBA role players. This has happened for over a decade.

It is obvious what Vivek wants to do.

What he wants to do and what happens are not at all related.

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January 11, 2022 9:32 pm
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To answer your questions.

There is not a single player on this roster that can be part of a core that a team is built around. The best players on this team are decent role players on any other legitimate NBA team. The role players on this team are borderline NBA players in reality.

What is your answer to your questions?

Who is the core of this team that cannot be traded because they are going to have a team built around them?

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January 11, 2022 12:51 pm

What do we do. We accept reality and realize a total rebuild is necessary. Do something like this.

Move Barnes, Buddy, Thompson, Harkless immediately for whatever draft capital and cap space we can get. There’s really no point keeping these guys and the longer we keep them the longer it’s taking management to realize a substantial rebuild needs to get started. I would also move Holmes when qualified to do so. I would be patient about it but I would quietly begin shopping Fox and move him for the right deal which would have to include two top 15 and above draft picks. I would immediately begin playing this roster and these guys only. We need to go into the off-season with a better idea of what these guys can contribute down the road.

Starting Lineup
Fox
Mitchell
Haliburton
Metu
Bagley
first off the bench Jones, TD, Queta, Woodard, Raimsey

I’m playing Bagley hoping for a miracle breakthrough. I think the risk reward still makes sense to play him given I doubt he brings back anything in a trade. He’s probably a lost cause but nothing to lose playing him the rest of the season. 
I’d like to go into the off-season with Haliburton, Mitchell, Metu, Jones, TD and a pile of draft picks and a bunch of cap space. I would use that cap space to sign a couple of bad contracts in exchange for a young player and/or draft capital.

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January 11, 2022 12:55 pm

Rob Hessing was basically just blessed by the Pope of Sacramento basketball. It’s pretty much the highest honor any of us could get and Rob didn’t even have to wear pants.

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