Articles | Podcasts

Sacramento Kings Preseason Preview with Jerry Reynolds

Jerry Reynolds shares his thoughts and expectations for the 2021 Sacramento Kings preseason.

The Kings Herald Show featuring Jerry Reynolds, Will Griffith, and Tony Xypteras returns to talk Sacramento Kings preseason basketball. We've got expectations, predictions, lineup notes, rotation talk, goals, and everything else you'd expect in a preview of something.

Timestamps:
  • (2:00) What does a GM and head coach look for in the preseason?
  • (3:15) What should we expect from more established players like Fox and Haliburton in the preseason?
  • (4:00) Do preseason expectations change for less established players?
  • (5:30) How important is the 2021 preseason for Marvin Bagley?
  • (8:55) Should Kings fans buy into the training camp hype?
  • (12:00) Will Monte McNair look to make a big move before the season starts?
  • (16:00) Is this roster well balanced like Monte McNair suggests?
  • (20:00) How much of the three guard lineups will we actually see this season?
  • (27:20) What can we expect from Davion Mitchell in his rookie season?
  • (39:10) How good can Tyrese Haliburton be?
  • (43:40) What would make this a successful season for the Sacramento Kings?

One quick note on the audio this week – we had some issues towards the beginning of the show with the recording. We tried cleaning it up as best we could, and it gets better as the show goes on, but yeah. It's there. Apologies. We'll do better next time.

You can find The Kings Herald Show wherever you listen to podcasts, but if we're missing a platform of your choosing, leave us a note in the comments and we'll get to work. If you can subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on any and all platforms, that would be greatly appreciated, too. It's the easiest way you can support the show!

Apple.
Spotify.
Google.
Stitcher.

In addition to our bi-weekly podcast with Jerry Reynolds, we also record a Patreon exclusive Q+A once a month where Patrons at any level can Ask Jerry Anything. You can listen to our latest Patreon exclusive Q+A right here.

You can submit questions for Jerry on Patreon, or write your questions in the comments below this post! Or you can just yell questions to Tony or Will on Twitter. 

And finally, you can sign up for our Patreon here.

Thanks for listening!

Support Us On Patreon
Subscribe
Notify of
44 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
catterj
Patreon Supporter
Original Member
Comments
Vote Up
Patreon Supporter
Original Member
Comments
Vote Up
October 6, 2021 9:17 am

Good show.

When Tony said he did not know whether Buddy would be better defending 3’s, talked about how his strength might help at the 3, and about how Buddy might be better at defending the 3 (though this was very non-committal), I immediately doubted it. I thought it made a lot of sense that Buddy would be worse defending the 3 than he is defending the 2.

But then I decided to see if lineup data might be able to prove my thought or at least shed a little light. I looked at 3-man lineups to find the defensive rating for a couple different groups:

  • Fox, Buddy, Barnes (1350 min) – 116.6
  • Fox, Tyrese, Hield (643 min) – 116.5
  • Fox, Tyrese, Barnes (727 min) – 113.3
  • Link

First thing apparent is that putting Tyrese in for Buddy improves the defense at least for three man lineups. But when comparing Barnes at the 3 with supposedly Buddy at the 3, they are nearly identical in Drtg. Barnes may be playing the 4 in the Fox, Tyrese, Hield lineups but that’s still Buddy or Tyrese, a guard, at the 3.

So maybe I’m wrong. We’ll apparently see more of Buddy or Tyrese at the 3 with Buddy at the 2 this season, so I guess we’ll find out.

Gregoryl
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
October 6, 2021 9:21 am

Fun fact: The Athletic has Bagley’s contract extension value at 4 years, $20M. That’s $20M total, not per year, for all you MB3 fans out there.

peyroux
October 6, 2021 9:25 am
Reply to  Gregoryl

Oof. That’s a couple million less than league average.

Kosta
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
October 6, 2021 9:40 am
Reply to  peyroux

comment image

Bbmuteman
Original Member
Comments
Patreon Supporter
Vote Up
Original Member
Comments
Patreon Supporter
Vote Up
October 6, 2021 10:57 am
Reply to  Gregoryl

Do you trust John Hollinger’s assessments? He also has Mikal Bridges as a 31.25 million a year player. Is that right?

Bbmuteman
Original Member
Comments
Patreon Supporter
Vote Up
Original Member
Comments
Patreon Supporter
Vote Up
October 6, 2021 11:02 am
Reply to  Bbmuteman

His BORD calculations seem really off with certain players. DiVincenzo as an almost 25 million a year player seem unusually high. Okogie seems high. Brunson too. Mitchell Robinson seems really low.

Last edited 11 months ago by Bbmuteman
Carl
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
October 6, 2021 11:04 am
Reply to  Gregoryl

538 has Bagley at 5 years, $40 million, which seems about right, and possibly even low if he improves at all this season.

Rosevillain
Comments
Vote Up
Comments
Vote Up
October 6, 2021 11:20 am
Reply to  Carl

Can’t imagine anyone offering Marv a five-year deal with his injury history. My guess is he signs a one-year thinking he can increase his value. But he very likely descends into Cousins territory, struggling to find a min contract on a new team every year. If he can get 5/40, he should jump on it.

Carl
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
October 6, 2021 11:22 am
Reply to  Rosevillain

I agree, I think what’s important with their number is average annual value, not length of contract. It’s a five year value and not a contract suggestion.

That being said, I think Bagley gets a three year deal somewhere unless he’s hurt all year.

Last edited 11 months ago by Carl
Rosevillain
Comments
Vote Up
Comments
Vote Up
October 6, 2021 11:29 am
Reply to  Carl

I hear you, but why are these “experts” even suggesting 4/20, 5/40? They have to be implying he gets 4-5 more years in the league, right?

Carl
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
October 6, 2021 11:37 am
Reply to  Rosevillain

Yeah, I suppose that does mean he’ll stay in the league, but as I mentioned, it definitely doesn’t mean he’ll get a long term deal. Derrick Williams got six years in the NBA and Bagley is definitely better. Barring injury, my guess is that Bagley is still in the NBA in five years.

Last edited 11 months ago by Carl
AnybodyButBagley
Comments
Vote Up
Comments
Vote Up
October 6, 2021 8:54 pm
Reply to  Rosevillain

Outside of Sacramento nobody knows who Bagley is. They plug his stats into a spreadsheet and it spits out a number.

They do not factor in how often he sits at home in Phoenix.

Kingsguru21
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
October 6, 2021 11:23 am
Reply to  Rosevillain

The only team that can offer a 5 year deal is the Kings. Other teams can only offer 4 years. Unless Marvin gets traded and that team has his Bird rights.

Rosevillain
Comments
Vote Up
Comments
Vote Up
October 6, 2021 11:32 am
Reply to  Kingsguru21

So… they think Marv is going to be on the Kings for the next 5 years? Is there a Vegas prop bet on that?

MichaelMack
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
October 6, 2021 1:29 pm
Reply to  Rosevillain

The article he referenced is not a contract prediction, it is a prediction of their value over the next four years.

AnybodyButBagley
Comments
Vote Up
Comments
Vote Up
October 6, 2021 8:53 pm
Reply to  Rosevillain

Bagley is the next Cousins in so many ways.

All that “potential” is a train wreck waiting to happen.

Carl
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
October 6, 2021 11:29 am
Reply to  Carl

538 has Bagley at 5 years, $40 million, which seems about right, and possibly even low if he improves at all this season.

Correction: 538 has Bagley’s five year value (not contract prediction) at $30 million, not $40 million. Was looking at the wrong year.

AnybodyButBagley
Comments
Vote Up
Comments
Vote Up
October 6, 2021 8:52 pm
Reply to  Carl

If he stays healthy he is lucky to get a three year deal.

With his daddy’s intelligence he signs a one year deal thinking he will play a good season and sign a max contract the following year.

Amonk81
Original Member
Vote Up
Comments
Original Member
Vote Up
Comments
October 6, 2021 11:42 am
Reply to  Gregoryl

Oh, but let’s see if he improves and becomes great. Bench big at best from the moment they drafted him, in my opinion.

Kosta
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
October 6, 2021 9:29 am

Are you sure those noises aren’t someone sneaking in some potato chips?

Klam
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Nostradumbass 18
Nostradumbass 19
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Nostradumbass 18
Nostradumbass 19
October 6, 2021 10:01 am
Reply to  Kosta

Reminds me of the time when DeMarcus Cousins came on to Grant’s show one day and brought in a bunch of candy to eat while being interviewed.

Kosta
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
October 6, 2021 10:06 am
Reply to  Klam

“Say, Grant. What do you call those things you are sprinkling on your ice cream?”

andy_sims
Vote Up
Comments
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Vote Up
Comments
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
October 6, 2021 9:53 am

WHICH ONE OF YOU FUCKS IS EATING POTATO CHIPS

Kosta
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
October 6, 2021 10:07 am
Reply to  andy_sims

It’s definitely not Jerry, unless he’s an All-NBA ventriloquist.

RobHessing
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Author
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Author
October 6, 2021 10:22 am
Reply to  andy_sims

My guess is that it is Tony Chipteras.

Kosta
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
October 6, 2021 11:11 am
Reply to  RobHessing

mob name = Tony Chipotle

WGriffith
Admin
Original Member
Author
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Author
Comments
Vote Up
October 6, 2021 11:22 am
Reply to  andy_sims

There’s no potato chips being eaten!

(they’re pita chips and it’s 10000% Tony)

Kingsguru21
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
October 6, 2021 11:26 am
Reply to  WGriffith

Yes because you’re way too important to ever eat Pita Chips, amirite or amirite Will?

Kosta
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
October 6, 2021 11:50 am
Reply to  Kingsguru21

I’m going with the theory that TKH is partnering with some chip company, and this is their way of doing guerrilla marketing.

Expect to see a Chip company sponsor logo on the next iteration of the TKH jerseys for sale at the online store.

Last edited 11 months ago by Kosta
RobHessing
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Author
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Author
October 6, 2021 12:44 pm
Reply to  Kosta

Lottoritos

Lays an Egg

Ruffles a fanbase

RobHessing
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Author
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Author
October 6, 2021 12:46 pm
Reply to  RobHessing

Takis Cheap

Kosta
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
October 6, 2021 1:19 pm
Reply to  RobHessing

I swear I saw Dick Bevetta receive a *free bag of Cheato’s from the 2002 L*kers after Game 6.

andy_sims
Vote Up
Comments
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Vote Up
Comments
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
October 6, 2021 11:34 am
Reply to  WGriffith

He was pounding them like he was stoned. He didn’t sound stoned, but he did express some optimism about the organization, and he should know that admitting that you have a problem is the first step toward getting better.

RobHessing
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Author
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Author
October 6, 2021 1:48 pm
Reply to  andy_sims

Turns out it was Will all along – comment image

Klam
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Nostradumbass 18
Nostradumbass 19
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Nostradumbass 18
Nostradumbass 19
October 6, 2021 10:01 am

comment image

Kosta
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
October 6, 2021 11:47 am

Jerry’s wisdom shared near the end of the show about mistakes and life and age is so wonderful to hear.

Last edited 11 months ago by Kosta
MichaelMack
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
October 6, 2021 4:24 pm
Reply to  Kosta

Absolutely. That was a really great moment, I thought. I love that guy.

PatFenis
Original Member
Original Member
October 6, 2021 11:54 am

Nice episode, but how can you guys not know that eating chips would show up on the damn podcast? That was ridiculous.

Kingsguru21
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
October 6, 2021 1:56 pm

“If Marvin Bagley could prove without a doubt that he’s your best 4 and one of your 5 best players, things could look up. But that hadn’t been the case.”

As always, Jerry nails it. The key to this roster, fair or not, is Bagley’s development. Am I optimistic? No. I’d need to see 20-25 games before I’d become optimistic. But….that would be a welcome development.

rockbottom
Comments
Vote Up
Comments
Vote Up
October 6, 2021 3:31 pm
Reply to  Kingsguru21

Also, liked the assessment of Barnes at 4 ! Really good on Offense but a poor rebounder and barely average rebounding for a three ! Bagley a key to success which seems very scary and depressing but likely factual ! Need a minor miracle it appears !

Kosta
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Comments
Vote Up
Original Member
October 6, 2021 3:23 pm

Davion’s footwork, speed, and tenacity is incredible to watch. He moves his feet like prime Pacquiao:

andy_sims
Vote Up
Comments
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
Vote Up
Comments
Original Member
Patreon Supporter
October 6, 2021 4:39 pm
Reply to  Kosta

There are going to be times where the ballhandler will be able to go up to where Mitchell can’t reach and get a clean look, but I’ll bet that when he’s switched onto a much larger player, he’ll crawl inside the guy’s jersey and get him off-balance and uncomfortable. Mitchell is strong, and bullying him won’t be as easy as some might expect.

Badge Legend

Patreon Supporter Patreon Supporter   Registered On Day 1 Registered On Day 1   Published Post Published Post  Published Post Nostradumbass
Comment Up Votes 200 Up Votes   Comment Up Votes 500 Up Votes    1,000 Up Votes    3,000+ Up Votes
Comments 50 Comments   Comments 100 Comments    250 Comments    500 Comments    1000+ Comments