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Kings Pulse: Cap Implications of the Trade Deadline with Tim Maxwell

Moving on from Harrison Barnes or Buddy Hield could have a significant impact on re-signing Richaun Holmes.

Tim Maxwell, our cap expert here at The Kings Herald, joined the show to explain the current cap situation of the Sacramento Kings and how it is impacted by the current trade market.

If no significant moves are made at this deadline (Harrison Barnes or Buddy Hield), then Sacramento could be in a tricky spot with limited spending power this offseason as Richaun Holmes enters free agency.

Tim mentioned the benefits of functioning as either an under or over the cap team if they are unable to make significant moves before the deadline.

We also talked about how this may add some pressure to Monte McNair as the March 25th deadline rapidly approaches, and if simply dumping Buddy for a minimal return would be worth it to ease the financial flexibility of the future.

Even something like Josh Green, Frank Ntilikina, DeAnthony Melton, or Kevin Knox and expiring matching salary.

Tim gave his input on what a fair return for Harrison Barnes would be from Boston or even potentially Miami or Denver.

If there is not a good deal on the table for either Barnes or Buddy, we debate if trading Richaun Holmes should be considered rather than risking him walking with no return this offseason.

Sam Amick mentioned in his latest interview with KHTK that Richaun Holmes may wield the greatest return of Sacramento's assets. If that truly is the case, McNair has to be gauging what his market is and debating if the Kings will want to or be able to retain him during this coming offseason.

One of the worst things that could happen at this deadline is that the Kings make no moves aside from Nemanja Bjelica and/or Hassan Whiteside.

We close the episode with what we expect to happen over the next week and some questionable food takes.

The Kings Pulse podcast is available on all major listening platforms.

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MadDam
March 19, 2021 1:55 pm

Holmes has already indicated he wants to remain in Sacramento. I’m sure agreeable terms could be discussed with his current mindset to stay with the Kings. A big pay day is one thing. Remaining happy where you are does have negotiating value.

KingOfTheMonsters
March 19, 2021 1:57 pm
Reply to  MadDam

Unless someone gives him a buttload of money.

MadDam
March 19, 2021 2:03 pm

And what does he value more? I hear ya. A ton a money is intoxicating. But if he is wise beyond his youth, happiness would rule the day, hopefully for us Kings. Plus after so many million, what kind of money really makes you all that much happier. It’s just a bigger number and a head trip.

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Otis
March 19, 2021 2:28 pm
Reply to  MadDam

Relative to his peers, Richaun hasn’t actually made all that much money in his career. At the age of 28, I expect he’ll look to get the largest contract he can, though I don’t doubt he hopes that offer comes from Sacramento.

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
March 19, 2021 2:49 pm
Reply to  Otis

Agreed, I think he rightfully goes for the most money he can get.

andy_sims
March 19, 2021 2:49 pm
Reply to  MadDam

Unless I miss my statistical guess, you have no better idea of the intoxicating effect of a ton of money any more than 99% of the rest of us. My guess is that it’s about as powerful as something can be.

I’d love for Holmes to stay, but I can’t see any hometown discount extending into the eight-figure range over the course of a contract being very likely. The fact is that even as an underpaid NBA player, he’s still made enough money to keep his family flush for generations. At the same time, he’s earned the right to insist on getting paid what he deserves for what he does.

The salary cap and its machinations are largely a mystery to my dumb ass, but if Houston was able to mange to repeatedly add/keep key players while being well over the cap, then there’s probably a way to give Holmes what he deserves, even if Barnes and Hield remain on t he roster.

Last edited 3 months ago by andy_sims
Hamlet1989
March 19, 2021 3:19 pm
Reply to  andy_sims

I agree. There’s always a way. Are they willing to spend the money? Maybe if Vivek has a man-crush on Holmes. Either that or we’ll hear some story about how he didn’t keep himself in good enough shape during the off-season and they wanted to send a message.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
March 19, 2021 3:23 pm
Reply to  Hamlet1989

Honestly, I think Vivek has a man-crush on Buddy. He’s on record of how much he wanted him while he was still a Pel. Moving Buddy would be an admission of a mistake and a blow to a man, who I feel, has an easily bruised ego.

It is also why I think Vivek can’t help himself from meddling and preventing a proper rebuild. It is just not in his makeup. I’m not sure he has ever failed in order to succeed. The man is a rags to riches story who overcame many obstacles by persevering no matter what.

Maybe he just can’t take two steps back in order to take 3 steps forward?

Amonk81
March 19, 2021 3:36 pm
Reply to  Adamsite

Fu## Vivek. Sorry, can’t help it. He is the only thing holding the Kings back and I find his ego disgusting.

andy_sims
March 19, 2021 3:38 pm
Reply to  Adamsite

In retrospect, given all of Cousins’ unfortunate injuries, what would you say the mistake was in acquiring Hield via that trade?

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
March 19, 2021 3:48 pm
Reply to  andy_sims

None, but hindsight is 20/20 and DMC’s injuries shouldn’t reflect on the return the Kings got in trade.

I was fine with removing DMC from Sacramento, and was fine with the trade. I was not totally fine with the extension Buddy got or the or the perceived loyalty, IMO, Vivek has to Buddy. If he is letting his personal fandom or ego get in the way of properly running a franchise, I have a problem.

WizsSox
March 20, 2021 12:20 pm
Reply to  Adamsite

Really? The internet has eyes…

“I’m fine with the money Buddy is getting. I was cool with $100M”
Posted by adamsite on Oct 21, 2019 | 1:31 PM via STR

If anyone is using hindsight is 20/20 here…

rockbottom
March 19, 2021 3:41 pm
Reply to  Hamlet1989

Agree, that the money has to be close or he leaves !

MadDam
March 20, 2021 2:13 am
Reply to  andy_sims

Did you just call me a dumb ass, Andy?

andy_sims
March 20, 2021 2:55 am
Reply to  MadDam

No, I just called you poor, like the rest of us.

KangzofLeon
March 19, 2021 2:12 pm

I’m curious how much money he will garner. I want nothing more than to keep him but I also want him to get a payday, but I don’t really see anyone offering more than like 12m?

ScottyPop
March 19, 2021 2:29 pm
Reply to  MadDam

Players usually say stuff like that.

Bottom line, this is likely going to be Holmes biggest payday. He’ll go the highest bidder. It’s not like Sac is a premier destination that offers him a chance at a championship.

He says nice things about Sac because he’s a good dude. At the end of the day it’s all about the benjamins.

RORDOG
March 19, 2021 2:19 pm

In a perfect world (meaning the Kings didn’t care about going over the cap) I think this is how things should play out:

  • Kings get future pick(s), young asset(s), and a big TPE from the Celtics for Barnes
  • Kings use the newfound cap space to trade for an impact player prior to the new fiscal year (basically before the deadline or prior to the draft).
  • Holmes is signed in free agency using the early bird exception
  • The Kings use the full MLE to get another impact player
  • Kings then use the Barnes TPE to trade for a fringe all-star level player

Obviously that’s all easier said than done, but that’s the type of scenario that would have this team in playoff contention next season.

mdeedublu
March 19, 2021 2:23 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

Nice breakdown, I agree but wouldn’t be upset if Buddy was swapped for Barnes or both were moved under the same scenario. The Kings are tight against the cap next season with Fox’s new contract eating up a bunch of space. The Kings almost have to do something with one or both of these guys or they’ll remain cash strapped next season, restricting the ability to improve the team.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
March 19, 2021 2:50 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

I really wish Tim had brought up the TPE that would be created if Kings dump Barnes to Boston for a young asset and a pick. He went into good detail about the cap space that would be created to possibly re-sign Holmes or spend in free agency, but that TPE went completely overlooked.

RORDOG
March 19, 2021 3:10 pm
Reply to  Adamsite

Plus they’d have cap space this season to utilize! If Barnes was traded today, then they’d have plenty of time to make subsequent moves before next season. Indy basically got TJ Warren for nothing because they had the cap space to help facilitate a draft day trade.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
March 19, 2021 3:15 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

Totally agree. They could use that TPE tomorrow to absorb a unwanted deal to get yet another draft asset!

Cap space plus a TPE with a few days to spare. If nothing significant materializes, they’s still have that TPE to use for a calendar year, which means they’d still have it before the next year’s deadline.

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Hamlet1989
March 19, 2021 3:24 pm
Reply to  Adamsite

I seem to remember the Kings creating TPEs in the past. Don’t remember them ever using one, so maybe it just isn’t worth mentioning. Finances again.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
March 19, 2021 3:43 pm
Reply to  Hamlet1989

They had a small one after the IT trade ti PHX, but never used it. The proposed one for Barnes to Boston would be about $18M! That is VERY significant. A high cap team/non-contending team looking to cut salary could send a player plus a pick for the Kings to eat. Orlando, for example, could send Terrence Ross and take nothing back in return. Maybe the Kings get a future first for taking on he deal? Another could be the T-Wolves, possibly looking to dmp Rubio.

ScottyPop
March 19, 2021 2:26 pm

Kuzma?

BARF!

RORDOG
March 19, 2021 2:43 pm
Reply to  ScottyPop

I don’t get the Kuzma stuff. He’s a not a bad player. His contract extension actually makes him a pretty decent value moving forward. If the Kings were confident they couldn’t re-sign Holmes, then getting Kuzma back in a trade would be fine.

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
March 19, 2021 2:53 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

For me, it’s his smugness. Maybe it’s the jersey he currently wears but I think he’d feel like a big fish in a small pond if he came to Sac and would rub a lot of people the wrong way.

As a basketball player and contract, I’d be totally fine with him as a anceilarry piece to Fox and Hali. He’d have that Harrison Barnes role on the team, but is cheaper and younger.

andy_sims
March 19, 2021 2:53 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

He is on a reasonable deal, but the fact remains that there isn’t anyone that came name anything that Kuzma is great at.

Amonk81
March 19, 2021 3:39 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

He is a bad defender. Fine as a bench scorer but he’s not a starter or top 3 option on a team.

eddie41
March 19, 2021 2:38 pm

Helluva play by Keon Johnson at the end of the half. What, no March madness thread?

eddie41
March 19, 2021 3:39 pm
Reply to  eddie41

Otherwise meh

andy_sims
March 19, 2021 2:40 pm

The lede quote says that the worst thing that the Kings can do at the deadline is nothing. The direct quite qualifies it by adding “one of the worst things…”

Unfortunately, I don’t have an hour-plus to listen to the pod right now. It’s possible that both things were said, but if it’s actually only the second, then the graphic is rather misleading.

As if hanging on to Barnes & Hield instead of getting an inadequate return is the worst thing that the organization could do. Have you completely forgotten about…well, pretty much everything?

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
March 19, 2021 2:56 pm
Reply to  andy_sims

Tim went on to say that doing nothing while keeping Buddy and Barnes, the Kings would be virtually the same team next season but with a late lottery pick. They possibly wouldn’t be able to re-sign Holmes and would have a hell of a time replacing his production at his current contract. He went into detail about how have the Kings would have something like 85% of their cap tied up in their starting 5.

It’s well worth a listen.

andy_sims
March 19, 2021 3:40 pm
Reply to  Adamsite

Thanks for the summary, I’m sure it’ll be a typically worthwhile listen when I can stop and focus on it.

eddie41
March 20, 2021 1:10 pm
Reply to  andy_sims

Your initial take is not invalid. The podcast I want to hear is how to keep both Holmes and Barnes. The names tossed around from Boston don’t move the needle. They are not impact players. If the team wants to mix it up, how about a new coach? Draft another good player? Get rid of Bagley’s contract.

BestHyperboleEver
March 19, 2021 4:02 pm
Reply to  andy_sims

In general, I’d rather see them be proactive and fail at it than be stagnant.

aplumley
March 19, 2021 3:24 pm

One of the worst things that could happen at this deadline is that the Kings make no moves aside from Nemanja Bjelica and/or Hassan Whiteside.

Did we learn nothing from the Vlade years? There is always a worse than you can imagine.

andy_sims
March 19, 2021 3:45 pm
Reply to  aplumley

Again, any criticism, most of it well-deserved, of Ranadive has to be taken within the context of drafting James Fredette. I don’t care what Petrie says about it being his decision, that had Maloof stink all over it. Geoff Petrie hasn’t had a stupid day in his entire life.

We have a rich history of bonehead moves from which to mine shit-nuggets.

rockbottom
March 19, 2021 3:48 pm
Reply to  andy_sims

Did the Maloofs draft T Robinson as well ?

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Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
March 19, 2021 3:51 pm
Reply to  rockbottom

That one is the head scratcher of the Petrie era for me. The fact that they traded Robinson just a few months later to keep the lights on makes me wonder of Petrie was relegated to the back seat in the waning Maloof months.

murraytant
March 20, 2021 4:35 pm

Good info here. It seems that being over cap and under penalty has most advantages. I honestly doubt HB or Buddy get moved- no prospective value in return. IMO- sign Holmes but I do think, while there will be a love discount, it will take 12- 15 million per year.
Off season top tier FA is highly unlikely. Need to draft well- hence, the dreaded tank. Right now tied at 7-10. Ten is bleak. 7 might be ok. After top 5, I like Bouknight, Moody and S. Barnes but that’s it.
There is a real value in getting a guy who can create and get a shot. Two of those 3 can do that and the other is an intangible guy.
This is very frustrating and continues my angst since 1985.

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