This franchise, at every level, should be ashamed of themselves. This was a pathetic showing from a team that seems to have given up.
Full recap to follow.
Postgame Thread: Pacers 122, Kings 95
What an embarrassment.
By Greg Wissinger | 79 Comments | Dec 22, 2024
December 22, 2024; Sacramento, California, USA; Indiana Pacers guard Andrew Nembhard (2) shoots the basketball against Sacramento Kings guard De'Aaron Fox (5) during the first quarter at Golden 1 Center. Mandatory Credit: Kyle Terada-Imagn Images
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I might need to make a paper bag for myself while sitting on the couch watching Kings games.
Lmao nice half speed scrimmage fellas
I don’t care how close we are to Christmas, someone or many shouldn’t be with this organization anymore come Wednesday.
No time like the present.
Was that a pun?
Unintentional. I am not that witty.
Honestly it seems like the coach more than the players. Yea, the roster is very flawed, but it’s like even the good players are checking out.
I said dude lost the team/locker room about 2-3 weeks in to the season. Apparently I was correct.
I continue to be blown away at how McNair and Wilcox still have a job. This roster is a disgrace to the city. How many times are they going to let the home crowd down? Pathetic
Roster ain’t ideal but it’s an above .500 roster, coach gotta go
Is it an over .500 roster? There are talented individuals but none of the pieces fit. Not enough shooting for defense for them to compete.
I think so, as did vegas and every other talking head local and national. MB is doing a horrific coaching job imo
The Raiders won a game today and I want to scream into a pillow
The Kings lost a game today and I want to scream into a pillow
Raider fan as well. Neither franchise has embraced a tank since they were last good, and you see the results. Perhaps the two worst franchises in the nba and nfl.
The Bills never embraced a tank – their highest draft pick during the playoff drought was #3 (Marcell Dareus) – and it worked out ok Actually made the playoffs in the most uninspiring-but-also-inspiring way possible the year before drafting JA17.
Of course, the NFL is a bit different. In the NBA if you’re not in a destination city some light tanking might be more necessary
Blow this sh!t show up MM!
The players on the roster are just bad. 8-22 for Sabonis? As a non jump-shooter…atrocious. 20+ boards are cool, but the dude has no face up game or consistent 3 ball. I love his energy and effort, but you can’t win at a high level with him as the starting C of your franchise. Trade him. Demar ass…trade him. Huerter trade him. Keegan broken. Trade him. Fox is the only player I would not want to let go. He is an elite pg and one of like 6 players in the league averaging what he is averaging. Mike Brown? Go somewhere else man. He fine as defensive coordinator but not as a head coach. Failure by Monte thinking Demar was enough….3 non shooters in the starting lineup? Lol…good call. And I say 3 now because Keegan is so far gone offensively. He obviously isn’t built for playing 2 ways at a high level. I’m just exhausted with this team. Not even mad anymore. Just expect them to play poor basketball. Changes are and have to come. Build around Fox differently or blow it all up.
Fox is really the only player that will
net you max value.
Sabonis won’t get you as much as you think. Hes complete and utterly worthless in the playoffs. 12ppg 7 boards in. 5 playoff appearances. No one and I mean no one will want that contract. Sorry,
Demar can’t be traded until
tjr summer.
Keegans value is really at an all time low.
Tell me what are you building around Fox? if you trade Demar, Boner and Keegan? Like realistically. Kings cupboard is empty. Empty…. Yes they have their picks. Other than that what….? Huerter? lol! Lyles? Jones?!, Team is at a crossroads here. Fox is the only trade chip, other than Monk that teams will really be interested in
Murray may thrive with different players in a different system. I wouldn’t move him unless really necessary.
Uh no, Sabonis is far and away the better player
Im afraid other GMs will know how overrated Fox is in value too
Sabonis doesn’t have much value league wide because he can’t defend the paint or reliably knock down shots at volume. He’s good but he needs such specific pieces around him that he’s not valuable to any team that isn’t built to maximize what he does well. GM’s know this. If you read any national writer they are very clear about this.
Sabonis is not a starting center and Brown is good as a defensive coordinator.
Tell me you have never watched a basketball game without telling me you have never watched a basketball game.
On a deep playoff caliber team he isn’t an elite C. And Mike Browns success with Warriors beforehand. Tell me you know nothing without telling me you know nothing.
You’ve got it backwards. Fox is the heart of the problem, plus he’s not staying here for a rebuild anyway.
Fox is who should be traded due to value and giant contract demands .
No, Fox has no imprint on making a team win and Domas is the clear best player here.
Brown’s first thing he mentioned in the post game was about defense let downs in the 2nd half, and letting the Pacers score 70…YOU HAD KEVIN AND DOUG IN THERE TOGETHER FOR MOST OF THE 3RD AND THE START OF 4TH QUARTER!!!!
Then League decided to cutoff of the broadcast after James Ham asked if the team quit. Guess I will need to go find the rest on YouTube later.
6-11 at home. No team has lost more home games this season. Kings are tied with the 4-22 Wizards.
My money is on Bagley winning this competition.
BREAKING: Marvin Bagley III traded back to the Kings.
A mutual reboot.
Ugh, I picked the wrong game to go to. And still haven’t gotten to see the beam in person. 🙁
Bummer. Sorry you paid and had to sit through that one. How were the boo birds?
Oh, the crowd let them have it many times, and deservedly so. It was embarrassing.
New rule. Don’t light the beam until over .500.
Just scrap the damn thing at this point.
I was there for the 50 point beating from the Pelicans last year and I won’t be attending a game again until Vivek fires himself. Probably going to be awhile.
Sorry, Klam. They trie- eh were there!
I took my wife and daughter to the game today. Now I’m going to have to go out and get some significantly better Christmas presents to make up for it.
At least the Thai Curry bowl from Star Ginger was good.
Kudos to being a bowl half full kind of guy.
The Kings are in dire need if a reboot ; of both coaches and players and possibly the GM and quite possibly the ownership. Vivek has done nothing but fumble his tenure since day one. Clearly mike brown is out of tricks and has reached his lev l of incompetence.
Back to the image library
What happened to 20 PPG DeMar? I’m ready to blow it up. Three firsts and a solid prospect for Fox. Two plus prospect for Sabonis. Whatever you can get for the rest. Keep Devin Carter.
Carter has never played in the NBA.
Send Fox to SA for Vassell, Sochan and 1RPs
Brown has been throwing players under the bus for weeks and seems they are now returning the favor . Barnes starting to look better now .
Clear that the Kings miss Barnes in the locker room
Spurs have four first rounders in the next draft. Just sayin!
They are going to get fox and win a title
Huerter really just out here collecting checks.
I think I would still find joy in playing basketball knowing a million dollar check is waiting for me after and I gave 0% energy to my job. Thats the life, brother.
Dont know what fox is talking about.
And a coach that plays you regardless of effort
Brown only cares if a player will take an open shot. If not, bench time. That’s why huerter keeps playing. Keon is a little more reluctant to shoot at times, for whatever reason.
Brown knows if his team scores less than 130 they will lose. Keon is a very good player but not that type of player.
Just not the case
Can you elaborate?
Sure bud, most of our losses we wouldn’t of needed to score 130…just look at the scores
It’s wild how good teams/coaches know the value and need of versatile defenders, like how OKC just inked Alex Caruso to an $81M extension, while Brown, who preaches defense, doesn’t practice it.
I honestly do think he values Keon’s defense and energy BUT he knows this team is so far behind defensively scoring is his only hope for a win.
I have always liked Keon. He is good. I have always said that Keon needs to shoot more to play more. I don’t know if Keon is that player?
Did you like him even when you were claiming that he was not an NBA player?
I have never said that.
You can troll or participate in a conversation.
As bottomed out as this seems…
and I am bummed.
blowing it up, isn’t the answer, IMO.
Keon Ellis is arguably the 4th best player on the team (and is the best defensive player) and Brown dicks around with him. The only reason I could see is that he passed up an open 3 last game (it was either late 3rd quarter or early 4th).
but why arent Hhuerter, Monk, Dougie, etc benched for sloppy turnovers, poor shot selection and getting repeatedly cooked on D?
They must have their tenure from the league offices.
I wouldn’t ignore the possibility that the veterans don’t like him, or Vivek wants Huerter to play. There are other possible explanations.
Rich Paul runs this team now. He has no interest in Keon.
Fourth best player on this team is also glued to the bench on a real basketball team.
I don’t think so, he is one of the most talked about trade targets from our team to contenders
Hopefully he gets something in return.
I have never seen or heard anything discussing trading Ellis. They will need to dump some salary to make it work. Thankfully we have plenty of that to send away with him.
Brown said in his presser that Keon and Isaac Jones didn’t play “Because the minutes just weren’t there.” and he wanted to give McDermott and Lyles “a look.”
Such a bullshit answer.
Lyles I agree with. I thought he played well and needs to be in the court.
But Doug over Keon explanation was a joke. Pacers run out TJ, Hali, mathurin, Nembhard, Sheppard, etc. so he plays the 32 old, non-defender McDermott, and the matador Huerter.
From what we can see and hear in the press conferences I think that Brown knows this team needs Lyles size and his typical play. He has been hurt and playing less than his average when he is playing. I think Brown is desperate to get Lyles on track because he is a dire need for this roster. This is somewhat logical.
McDermott scored a bunch one time so he was hoping for a religious experience and McDermott would do it again. This is crazy, but that is what the strategy seems to be.
MB has lost the team because of his ridiculous rotations, no one in that locker room thinks keon should get dicked around like he is, and no one thinks huerter and freaking doug mcdermot should get more minutes then keon.
Nobody in that locker room has said anything about Keon.
They have said plenty about Huerter and Keegan playing through their slumps and coming out of an injury.
Why are fans so scared of starting over.
I understand if you are 28 and up lol I am 30 now the past was horrible. Don’t you guys want to at least have a chance of finally supporting a real basketball franchise player?
All I had was Kevin Martin, the year before Evan’s came, tyreke evans, Demarcus cousins and fox. We all knew fox was an introvert from day one & needed a vocal leader. None of these guys had the personality/skills/leadership to lead us. The kings never tried to get a vet like Dillon Brooks.
This team needs new energy. We won’t end up like the pistons/wizards/hornets or blazers because we have 2 young prospects already Keegan/carter 3 if you add keon.
Two players in their prime that are going to bring you at least 4 more young guys and like 6-8 draft picks.
the rockets, spurs, have good assets something good for fox.
the grizzlies and thunder might target sabonis and have good assets.
I would have loved to be in McNair seat right now because sac is not a free agent destination, but when you draft prospects, they love it here. Now is the time before everyone value starts going down.
I’ve never understood the argument against blowing it up. You know what fans love? Exciting young prospects that give you hope. You know what sucks? Having a team of vets that’s stuck in purgatory. I think Vivek fundamentally misunderstands what it takes to sustainably win and keeps chasing back end playoff spots assuming that will energize the fan base. He still hasn’t figured it out.
Well said.
36 assists for the Pacers, 21 for the Kings.
Pacers Team better than ISO Fox.
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