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Postgame Thread: Kings 141, Jazz 97

Light The Beam!
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NBA: Utah Jazz at Sacramento Kings

Dec 8, 2024; Sacramento, California, USA; Sacramento Kings forward Doug McDermott (7) gestures after making a three point basket against the Utah Jazz during the fourth quarter at Golden 1 Center. Mandatory Credit: Darren Yamashita-Imagn Images

The Kings made their threes and ran away with this one. Light the Beam and post those gifs!

Full recap to follow.

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December 8, 2024 9:04 pm

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Kings win! Jazz dance!
(140+ again!?)

I was at this game – just nuts. The shouts of “Doug-ie” were fun. Kings win every quarter. Another game with a 40+ quarter.

Huerter for 6th man of the year?

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Jman1949
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December 8, 2024 9:07 pm

Purple rainstorm of threes tonight!

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December 9, 2024 6:47 am

I was there to. I agree, it was a very fun game. It says something about the game when the most exciting part were the “Dougie” chants in garbage time. The whole place was rocking all game and that was the icing on the cake!

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December 8, 2024 9:06 pm

Imagine being a Jazz fan, going from a 42 pt win to a 44 pt loss in consecutive games!

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December 8, 2024 9:09 pm
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That might be the widest swing in history
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December 8, 2024 9:17 pm
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Jazz beat Blazers.
Blazers beat Kings.
Kings beat Jazz.

It’s the triangle of the West.

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December 8, 2024 9:19 pm
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Life comes at you faster than a De’Aaron Fox fast break

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December 8, 2024 9:18 pm

Starting Monk has created room for Huerter to be inconsistent. Monk brings a known presence and quantity to every game. Huerter has not been doing that. Tonight Huerter was hot in almost every category so he played more minutes. When Huerter is not doing well Monk will carry more of the load by playing 36 plus minutes. Huerter can thrive in this role because he can be the one to play 30 plus minutes when his game is strong. McDermott showed what he can occasionally do as well.

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December 8, 2024 10:22 pm
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No, that’s really not it.

Prior to Monk being inserted in the starting lineup, Huerter had every opportunity to be inconsistent. Before that move, Brown could have easily let Monk carry more of the load coming off the bench when Huerter was not doing well.

Let’s not create some false narrative as if placing Moink in the starting lineup was some genius move by Brown. He was already in desperation mode, trying all kind of different things and then an injury forced his hand, and by accident, something seems to work. (Still too soon to tell if it really works).

It is eerily similar to last season when we were dead in the water defensively, and when two of our worst perimeter defenders (Monk and Huerter) were out injured, Brown was forced to give Keon a bigger role, which helped the Defensive Rating to surge. (And Brown got his premature extension.)

Now, maybe this move will indeed help unglue the Kings 3 point shooting and bring results, and we can all be happy. But the process to get there was awful. (I remember when “process” was the buzzword back at StR).

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December 8, 2024 10:56 pm
Reply to  RikSmits

I made an observation after watching the last couple of games with Monk starting and Huerter coming in as the sixth man. This is something I saw. No narrative.

I never mentioned Brown or how any of it came to fruition. You are concerned about the genesis of Monk starting. I was only talking about a couple of changes in the over all team game I observed.

You do seem to agree with the result I observed.

Your narrative about Brown not being intelligent while working purely out of desperation with all positive results being accidental is yours. You propagate the narratives you choose. I am sticking to the basketball game.

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December 8, 2024 11:54 pm
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Starting Monk has created room for Huerter to be inconsistent.

This is an inference about what you saw (or narrative, if you prefer. It seems that you don’t). It is not “sticking to the basketball game”.

And the verb “starting” seems to imply an active deed (by the coach). If you would have written “With Monk staring, Huerter has more roomn to be inconsistent”, I wouldn’t have read it as an effect intended by Brown.

But even if not, I disagree about the premise of that statement and wrote that Huerter has had every opportunity to be inconsistent. What is your view on that?

Anyway, I’m sorry if I put words in your mouth, that wasn’t my intention.

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December 9, 2024 6:27 am
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This seems to be something well beyond basketball that I do not have an interest in.

The premise of my statement is that starting Monk creates room for Huerter to be inconsistent. I supported that in my comment.

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December 9, 2024 12:53 am
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Agreed, and rec’d for “Moink”.

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December 8, 2024 9:33 pm

John Collins looks so solid out there. Really wish McNair had traded for him last offseason instead of re-signing Barnes. Utah got him for nothing and will be able to flip him for a pick. Great asset management.

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December 8, 2024 9:44 pm
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Utah got him for nothing

Utah will have paid him $52M for last season and this season, and are on the hook for $26.5M player option next season.

Asset management that.

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December 9, 2024 8:49 am

The Jazz have the second lowest payroll in the NBA. if you remove Collins from their cap sheet and the Jazz are below the salary floor. They had to pay someone. Considering they only gave up a retiring Rudy Gay and a future 2nd round pick, I’d say Ainge made a steal. If/when Ainge moves Collins and they get anything more than a 2nd round pick (they will) it’s an absolute win for the Jazz. He’s not part of their long term plans. He’s just a placeholder redeeming his value until Ainge gets what he wants. Like K4L stated, it’s great asset management.

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December 9, 2024 9:45 am
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But, Utah got him for nothing, tho. So it shouldn’t matter that they had shit tons of cap space for his ridiculous salary. They got him. For nothing. Which obviously means we should have been able to get him. For nothing. Never mind the fact that we wouldn’t be able to pay him. He looked so solid, with all those tattoos, am I right Ailene… I mean Kings4life?

sactownchad
December 9, 2024 10:12 am
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That’s not what it means at all. Why do Kings fans think that every player that signs with another team “was available” to the Kings, usually “for next to nothing?” This isn’t a video game or a fantasy sports league. Not every player that fills some hypothetical need is just come over because the fans will it. You know the team plays historically bad basketball in a city that has never been a destination even in the best of years right?

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December 9, 2024 10:26 am
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I think maybe you fell into my sar-chasm, as that’s basically what I’m saying (minus the history and destination points, obviously.)

sactownchad
December 9, 2024 11:00 am
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I guess I did! Glad I am not the only one that feels this way.

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December 8, 2024 9:57 pm

140 points last game, 141 this game, do we have a trend happening?

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December 8, 2024 10:10 pm

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Keep making those 3’s, Kings!

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December 8, 2024 10:22 pm

Eyebrow raising stats:
Team: 22/44 fro 3 (50% 3FG)
Starters: 6/20 from 3 (30% 3FG)
Bench: 16/24 from 3 (67% 3FG)

For the League:
Kings 19th in wins (12-13)
11th point differential

Malik Monk, Mr. December and Pizza Guy.
of the 5 games he’s been a starter, starting 1 December, Sacramento has gone 3-2, and averaged 127.2 ppg.
with +14.6 point differential (loss by 2, by 5, wins 9, 27, 44).

141 eclipses the previous season high of 140 from last game, 2 days ago. 39 assists, 57 made FGs.

This is a completely different team when they make shots – but that’s every NBA team.

Now just one game below .500.

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December 8, 2024 10:37 pm

My children and I will forever look back fondly at the night we were at Golden 1 and saw the Kings win by 40+, fueled by solid defense, unselfish play, a bad Jazz team and, perhaps most importantly, Doug McDermott making 6 threes in a 5 minute span of garbage time.

Light the beam!

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December 8, 2024 11:56 pm
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Congrats, what a fantastic game to bring the kids to. I hope they had a blast.

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December 8, 2024 10:44 pm

It’s a lot more fun when this teams makes shots.

Glad they took care of business but they beat two horrible teams in the Spurs sans Wemby and Vassel and the Jazz. They’ve got the Pels in a few days then Denver. Their December schedule is manageable… if they can make shots

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December 9, 2024 8:36 am

Teach me how to Dougie!

Definitely the most fun game of the season to watch so far. We got the Fakers coming up three times this month. December is gonna be fun!

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December 9, 2024 8:59 am

That was a fun one. It brought a lot of smiles to my face while watching. Hitting from 3, racking up 39 assists, and playing spirited defense will win you the majority of your games. Keegan locking up Lauri was awesome to see. Dougie hitting from 3 over and over again was icing on the cake.

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December 9, 2024 9:26 am

Nice win!
The good:

  • I bash Huerter quite a bit but he looked like the best player on the floor last night.
  • McBuckets?!?!? Where did that come from?
  • Fox cutting back his 3pt attempts, I think this is a big key with this team
  • The rotations and minutes distribution seemed better
  • This team is dangerous when shooting a decent 3pt percentage
  • Monk starting

The bad:

  • Every team will have 4-5 games per year where they will win no matter what, everything goes right and 4-5 they will lose no matter what, everything goes wrong. Felt like one of those games
  • I like his effort and defense but I am not sold on Colby Jones, he is getting his chance right now, we will see
  • Wish they could have hit just a few of these 3s in other games, they would have 3-4 more wins
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December 9, 2024 10:19 am
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The bad? In a 40+ point win? Seriously, bah humbug, OldBhoy.
The Kings won because the sun shines up a dog’s ass 4-5 times a night every season? Bah humbug, indeed. Seems like we’re the team every other team has this game against. I’ll take getting one for a change and not look the gift horse in the mouth. Tis the season, except for you, apparently.
I also disagree with your “big key with this team.” We didn’t ask Fox to add a consistent 3 pt. shot to his game for 4 seasons so he could not use it while every other player on this team has a green light to jack 3s (while going 0-for in the process.) If his volume was higher and his percentage lower then I’d agree with you but he is one of the more reliable 3 pt. shooters we have at the moment. He was 9-14 during that historic 2 game run and 12 of 20 including the game after. Dude can shoot better than most on this team when he wants to so I’m not buying what your selling, there.

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December 9, 2024 10:51 am
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I’m happy they won. No humbug. They seem headed the right direction, hopefully they are turning the corner.

They are too inconsistent for me to put much faith in them yet, nice win or not. Not drinking that Kool Aid

Agree to disagree but Fox settling for too many 3s is a common occurrence when they are playing their worst just my opinion

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December 9, 2024 11:15 am
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Not a stats nerd but quickly looking back here are couple examples of Fox 3pt shooting in some bad losses:

PORTLAND, 1/6
TORONTO, 0/11
MEMPHIS, 0/7

I’m not bashing Fox and saying no 3s. I’m saying be selective and don’t settle for 3s. Fox is elite at attacking, creating and finishing in the paint, he is not an elite 3pt shooter. Basically play to your strengths.

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December 9, 2024 3:19 pm
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I was absolutely cherry picking my game samples and definitely noticed those ugly ass numbers, too. I just think that’s more endemic of the night the whole team had, not just Fox. I don’t think he’s elite, but he’s still one of our top 3, so there’s that…

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