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The Sacramento Kings and assistant GM Wes Wilcox have been fined for violating league rules

The Kings probably won't interact with scorer's table personnel again after this incident.
By | 50 Comments | Jan 6, 2022

December 15, 2020; Sacramento, California, USA; Sacramento Kings assistant general manager Wes Wilcox during the second quarter against the Golden State Warriors at Golden 1 Center. Mandatory Credit: Kyle Terada-USA TODAY Sports

The NBA announced Thursday that the Sacramento Kings organization has been hit with a $50,000 fine for violating NBA rules prohibiting team owners and executives from interacting with scorer’s table personnel. Assistant general manager Wes Wilcox was also fined $15,000 for his involvement in the incident.

According to the NBA’s press release, the incident occurred with 10:50 remaining in the 3rd quarter in Sunday nights game against the Miami Heat at Golden 1 Center. Wes Wilcox confronted scorer’s table personnel about a shot clock issue during a jump ball that the league later confirmed was actually handled correctly by the shot clock operator. Whoops.

I had nothing better to do and was curious which play had upset Wilcox, so I went back and dug it up. The shot clock isn’t supposed to start until possession is secured, but it definitely looked weird, especially from Wilcox’s angle from the bench.

Is this already more analysis than this news deserves? Probably, so I’ll end it here and assume Wes Wilcox won’t be confronting scorer’s table personnel again after this. We don’t know what was said exactly, but that’s a pretty hefty fine.

 

 

 

 

 

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January 6, 2022 7:09 pm

This.
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Organization.

Hilarious. 😂

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January 6, 2022 7:26 pm
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Is there an online trade machine for sideline statisticions that I am unaware of? I just assume that is where Monte’s attention has been the last few weeks.

Got to build from the ground up.

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January 6, 2022 7:19 pm

TBH, I thought the scorer’s table screwed up too.

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January 6, 2022 7:40 pm
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But you’re not a team employee who made a fool of himself.

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January 8, 2022 1:14 am
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This could be applied to dozens of Kangz employees over the last 37 years.

Seven winning seasons. 37 years.

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January 6, 2022 7:20 pm

The roster definitely isn’t the issue. It is the score keepers, obviously.

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January 6, 2022 7:26 pm

They always find something to fuck up

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January 6, 2022 7:29 pm

This reminds me of the student in who turns in zero work, spends every period on his phone, and skips school half the time, then blames the teacher for “being unfair” when he fails the class.

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January 6, 2022 7:35 pm

It would be awesome if this guy was as passionate about improving the team as he was about not knowing the rules.

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January 7, 2022 5:49 pm
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If he didn’t like what he saw, why didn’t he just throw up courtside?

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January 6, 2022 7:43 pm

Goofy franchise run by a bunch of goof balls.

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January 6, 2022 7:47 pm

This organization… I keep telling myself I’m glad the city kept the team for economic reasons and downtown revitalization reasons and F those Seattle hypocrits reasons… it was worth it, it was worth it, it was… oh FFS, burn it all!

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January 6, 2022 8:17 pm

I mean, it’s not that weird. Game clock starts when the ball is tipped. Shot clock starts when possession is gained. How is this complicated? And this guy has been an NBA GM or Assistant GM for seven years and doesn’t know he’s not supposed to interact with the scorer’s table during the game?

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Let’s see if the Kings front office can produce more fines than trades this season.

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January 6, 2022 8:26 pm

BREAKING!

Sources tell Sam Amick and Carmichael Dave that the ast GM knows what he’s doing and has complete control.

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January 6, 2022 8:45 pm

Fixed

The Sacramento Kings and assistant GM Wes Wilcox have been fined for existing in the violating league rules

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January 6, 2022 10:29 pm

Lmao, I seriously presumed that we were slapped with tampering when I first saw this headline. This is funnier though.

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January 6, 2022 11:39 pm

It saddens me to hear that the assistant gm to the Sacramento Kings thinks that a single call is important enough to justify such frustration.

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January 7, 2022 7:22 am

Especially when they didn’t even know the rules

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January 7, 2022 7:34 am

We have to remember, he and Monte were sitting courtside next to Vivek. Maybe he was trying to prove something. In justifying his paycheck he lost a good chunk of it!

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January 7, 2022 9:37 am
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I was sitting behind him that game. I remember him saying something about it but I wasn’t really paying attention to him. I did get the feeling most of the game that he was trying to impress Vivek with his knowledge.

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January 7, 2022 9:41 am
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NBA 50k.0

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January 7, 2022 9:46 am
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Yikes! 🤦‍♂️

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January 7, 2022 12:15 am

When did we get an assistant gm

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January 7, 2022 5:56 am
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Good job helping a guy do nothing ! The only better job is being a consultant to a guy doing nothing ! Hope they are well paid for their contributions !

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January 7, 2022 7:37 am
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Haha! The Kings have two of them. There is also Ken Catanella.

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January 8, 2022 1:16 am
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Exactly what I thought … Vlonty doesn’t do shit anyway, why does he need an assistant?

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January 7, 2022 7:08 am

Good for Wes Wilcox! Now if we can find some players who care about winning…

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January 7, 2022 9:54 am

Throwing public tantrums about officiating is pathetic enough when it’s done by players and fans. We don’t really need the FO personnel to join the pity party.

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January 7, 2022 10:03 am

Can’t wait for Slamson and Scott Moak to get in on the action.

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January 7, 2022 10:14 am
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“Hey ref, you’re a moron!!!”
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January 7, 2022 10:04 am

For a team so sensitive to optics, it’s astounding how often they get the PR end of things wrong.

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January 7, 2022 11:17 am
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I truly wonder if they see this is a positive. “See Kings fans, we really do care about the team and winning. We’ll even go to bat for the team during the game, fines be damned!”

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Yeah, that’s how they’ll attempt to spin it.

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January 7, 2022 10:36 am

If it wasn’t for that shot clock issue we’d be in the playoffs.

Fucken refs, man…

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January 7, 2022 10:58 am

“Interacting with the scorers table” is code for Wes yelling “start the f*ck*ng clock!”

If inclined to think this way, this is as Kangz of play as a Kangz gets, including the shot clock operator who did not give us our home court advantage. The tip by Jones and bobble by Yurtseven led to re-orienting himself in shooting position. If he had a caught it clean off the jump he ‘s not in much of a position to score before the shot clock goes off. Instead he’s face up for the easy look.

I don’t think it is embarassing or negative reflection on Wes. He wants to win. Competitive emotions temporarily overrode his logic and reasoning. If you think the behavior or fine is embarassing why do you care? Negative outside perception? Who gives an eff!?

We should NOT care what others think. We cannot control what others think. Why do you think I am prolific as a commentator? I do not care what others think, I am only true to my own perceptions!

As aside how much better is Yurtseven than Marvin ?! I thought Marvin was on “redempton tour” and “relentless hustling”. LOL. Remember Thomas Robinson, former bust? T-Rob is better than Marvin.

Look how Jones has a vice grip on the ball. Look at the strong picks and decisive rolls to hoop. Look at the way Jones attacks. Contrast this to Marvin, you have one guy who wants it and wants to play among men as a man versus a guy who can take it or leave it and wants to finesse his way to something tangible.

I don’t even see Marvin as a lob threat anymore, what happened there?

There is a reason Jones is the primary picker and roller and Marvin is told to go stand in the corner. What does this say? The conclusion is obvious:

Stay out of the way, Marvin!

This begs the question, why is he even on the floor? For his deadly corner threes? LOL. His rebounds are mostly uncontested and his outet passes are indecisive and weak AF. He has not blocked a shot in forever.

Why was Marvin inexplicably promoted along with Buddy, alternatives available out or not?

Deuce Mason gets it , along with his sidekick Mo Reagan. Deuce was breaking down the last loss and what does he say first and foremost, parpahrasing:

Marvin’s defense is trash.
Buddy’s defense is trash.

It is the Interim who has elevated these two scrubs as integral components in the mix then bemoans and begrudges the persistent lapses? GTFO.

For those who don’t know what they are looking at, the Interim is no different than the man he suceeded. It is the same playbook, same misguided misplaced trust and confidence in fraudulent players.

The Old Man was effective head coach before the firing, making the firing inconsequential, unless you put stock in “new level of accountability”.

This reflects poorly on the GM, for making a cosmetic instead of a substantive change, who could and should have chosen DC or B-Jax.

Everyone repeat after me: Vivek was right (for wanting Doug)! Vivek was right!

Vivek wanted to roll the dice on candidate with energy hunger and novel thinking vs tenure and curmudgeonly grandfather figure with sub .500 record and valuing outside perception over the former attributes.

Let the pundits mock and ridicule for elevating a former player as we did with Vlade. It is an interim tag anyway, and they were already mocking and ridiculing you.

McGenius ain’t looking so ingenious on this one!

Vivek was right.

How this must gnaw in the craw of the peanut gallery, therefore I cannot resist but say it one more time!

The Old Man seems to have higher regard for Marvin than Fluke. Had not this experiment run its course? And he has more of a leash with Buddy, just as TD is breaking out of his slump and giving us exactly what we needed. This is surprising and disappointing because in his first few games as coach TD and Davion got more minutes than Buddy.

To the degree I was optimistic before the season began, even with our imbalanced roster in need of a major trade, it was based in anticipation Metu and TD and Davion would supplant Buddy and Marvin, take away most to all of their time. The coach would have NO choice but make this decision, even if he had a bias otherwise.

The biggest disappointments with exception of the first are rooted in this dynamic.

Disappointment #1: Fox came to camp heavy, top heavy and extra body fat, 205 lbs or thereabout when he needs to play at 190 lbs, where he looks to be at now. He looks great now physically. Easily the biggest disappointment, however, so preventable, though it was rectified quickly, so we can take solace in this, unlike NOP fans with their franchise player.

The play Fox made at end of last game, juking a man out of his shoes for an and-one, he could not make few months ago. The player we have seen lately is Superstar caliber, a midrange assasin. DeRozan is a midrange assasin too, 4th in NBA in scoring, ahead of Curry. And like DeRozan, Fox is a SG, I envision this as Fox best position offensively and defensively, though he’s a SG who does not need a PG to set him up.

Disappointment #2: TD could not buy a shot 6-8 weeks to start the season. Even for a streaky shooter, this was incredulous. He was uncomfortable and forcing perhaps to try to continue where he left off last season and emerge among our crowded guard corps.

Again it was so important for him to play as he did last year when he was at his best to push Buddy down and out of the rotation. Instead it became a “toss up” whom to play.

In 14 games in Oct and Dec, TD was a 21% from 3s (12-57). In 8 game in December he broke out of his slump with 62% TS%. He made 20-48 on his 3s, a decent sample size, in Dec for 42%. What does TD get for his turnaround, for discovering his shot and game, harassing defense included? He gets buried behind Buddy by the Interim.

How can you have the audacity to complain about defense lapses and value a non-defense player over a defender?!

TD’s ankle soreness is dubious. He is rightfully pissed he got demoted and decided well if you are not going to play me I may as well go onto the IR. It is bullshit and we see the sad conseqences and hopelessness as a result.

There is NO way the team should lose a game with Fox and Ty having the games they did vs MIA, and it is because of the holes you have providing empty minutes. I would move HB to 4, start Davion, activate Queta and play him over TT and Len and Marvin.

As Deuce said, unless this team is making their shots, they get beat by replacement squads. Fluke got fired for less!

Disappointment #3: A good sample size on 3s is 100 shots. If you shoot 100 3s, and you are not 33-35% or higher, your green light needs to be turned to a red or yellow.

There was reason for optimism for Metu as a stretch 4 when he was 35% on 3s in 36 games last year. But it was only on 37 tries (13-37). We needed the 100 shot sample. Now we have it and it is not pretty, 26% on 96 attempts this year including buzzer beater. Metu is 38 for 133 from deep for 28.5% over this and last year.

28.5% is unacceptable. Since Metu won the game vs DAL, which you would hope could catapult him to a new confidence and level of effeciency, hes 2-8 from 3s, back to 25%.

This is enough of a sample size to pump the brakes and say “no mas”, you can’t shoot from distance. If you shoot 40% from the field, that is 8 points per 10 shots. If you shoot 30% from 3s that is 9 points per 10 shots. So at 28.5% from deep, Metu is effectively shooting 40% eFGs from deep.

His 2 point FG% over two seasons is 54% FG%, 141 for 262 FGs. 40% eFG% from deep vs 54% eFG% from 2s. The course is clear. Stop shooting 3s. Does Holmes shoot from 3 ? Metu, and Marvin for that matter, need to have the same yellow to red light as Holmes.

There are couple of conclusions from this statistic dive. If Metu was able to make 35% from 3s, continuation from last season, he would have buried Marvin in the rotation since he is superior in all other aspects of the game. The coach would have had NO choice. Hence the disappointment Metu could not make these looks, most uncontested. Second, even with the struggles from deep, Metu has done enough to justify his spot ahead of Marvin, with his green light to yellow or red, which leads to final disappointment.

Disappointment #4: The Old Man blasphemously compared Buddy to Curry when trying to justify why you keep Buddy in the game when he is 1-8 FGs, why his prolonged cold spells to with the inept defense is tolerable, He laughably tried to defend his decision when Fox and Ty are getting you 20+ PPG and you have a Top 5 on-ball defender as complementary option.

TD is nursing an injury he could play through, if he was not undeservedly demoted. Davion comes off the bench after Buddy instead of before him, and there is little to NO chance we see a three guard lineup of Davion, Ty and Fox as starters, NO chance to put our best players on the floor to address the problems Ty and Fox have as point of attack defenders.

Instead of coaching up Metu, no more 3s unless the shot clock is about to hit zero, he decides Marvin is the better player. This is disappointment that parallels #1 because the season is capable of being saved, but the man in charge has NO clue how to go about it.

Metu and TD are far from world beaters but with the state of the West they do not need to be to get us the 6th and 8th seed. The chance of that happening with Marvin and Buddy in their present roles is zero, and anyone paying attention knows it, but the coach who needs a drink, a shot or two or three of whiskey, which makes for some lucid thinking the day after undoubtedly, and who is open to crowdsourcing strategy does not.

Wes Wilcox showing some passion is NOT embarassing. The Interim asking for advice from the masses and implying he is a booze hound is.

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January 7, 2022 11:09 am
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I feel like Jimmy Butler in the Bubble. (I don’t know how to post pics sorry)

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January 7, 2022 11:25 am

This one? Just copy the web address and paste it into the text box.

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Who’s the OLDMAN again?

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Completely apropos of nothing of course, but is there any news on TKH’s thread collapsing functionality? At the moment it looks like one can collapse/hide responses to a post, but not the root post itself.

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January 7, 2022 1:58 pm

Ooh, that’s new! Can I vote for an ignore feature, or a feature where you can collapse a post by user? Also, can I ignore myself?

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I think it would be great to have an ignore feature of members but still see the responses. It could be a guessing game of who pissed everyone off by only reading the replies!

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January 7, 2022 12:56 pm

It’s hard to comprehend how this incident leads to 35 comments, majority of them up in arms over the Kings being fools once again…when I guarantee 80-90% of this board could not have for sure identified the exact rule. Both announcers couldn’t, other coaches on the bench couldn’t. I guess on this board most of us can all pretend we would have nailed the call 100%.

He made a mistake, which all do at our jobs on occasion. Even competent people.

The Kings fuck a lot of shit up…this on the other hand is the world’s biggest nothing burger unless your only cause is just looking to bitch about organizational incompetence at every turn. Which I guess to be fair, the Kings give plenty of opportunities. Doesn’t seem like one to get very excited about.

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January 7, 2022 1:03 pm
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He has no business sticking his nose into it during the game, period. The fact that he is as ignorant as us is not really germane to the conversation, though it is a helluva defense.

For most other teams, probably not much of a deal. In the grander scope of things, probably not a big deal for the Kings. But when you are as bad as the Kings have been for as long as the Kings have been, organizational tomfuckery is going to be amplified, and probably rightly so.

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when I guarantee 80-90% of this board could not have for sure identified the exact rule.

We’re a bunch of Internet dimwits, so that doesn’t say much about him. And he was ignorant of two rules here, not just one.

unless your only cause is just looking to bitch about organizational incompetence at every turn.

A good way to stop this is to stop being incompetent.

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While I would like to agree this is a nothingburger, I just don’t see that at this point. I’m not looking to slam them for this, but the NBA fined both the org AND Wilcox. That’s a very atypical occurrence, yes?

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Screaming at a co-worker is not an occasional mistake.

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January 7, 2022 4:31 pm
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Not just a co-worker, but someone who is very likely much lower on the totem pole.

Marc Cuban likes to scream a lot, but it’s mainly directed at the refes. It’s a different ball of wax when you scream at the scorekeepers of the team you are a high ranking member of, especially when you are sitting right next to the owner who has ultimate say.

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It isn’t really screaming at a co-worker. It’s taking out your frustrations at not being able to do your own job adequately on a third-party contractor hired to work in a different department who, as a specialist, understands the intricacies of his craft infinitely better than you do.

In short, Wilcox just Karen’d the shit out of that guy.

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January 7, 2022 5:46 pm

I once said something to my (now ex-) wife. It cost me more than $15,00, that’s for sure.

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January 8, 2022 1:13 am

Two things …

1) I had no idea who “Wes Wilcox” was until this story
2) The fuck does Vlonty need an assistant for? He doesn’t do shit.

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