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Marvin Bagley III suffers left hand fracture, out indefinitely

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The Sacramento Kings lost more than just a game on Monday night as the Kings announced that Marvin Bagley III suffered a "fractured fourth metacarpal in his left hand".  It's currently unknown when or how Bagley sustained the injury, but he left the game in the second quarter, in clear discomfort.

It's yet another unfortunate blow in Bagley's young career, as this is yet another injury that will force him to miss significant time.  Bagley had only missed two games this entire season and had been starting to play better as the season went on.

While the Kings have yet to announce a timeframe for Bagley's recovery, a quick Google search indicates that this type of injury can have a three to six week recovery.  Given that the Kings aren't likely to be playing for anything and their history of being particularly cautious with injuries, it wouldn't surprise me if Marvin missed the rest of the season.  Hopefully that's not the case though, and he can come back sooner rather than later.

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Kangz_Landing
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March 15, 2021 6:58 pm

This thread should be fun

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March 15, 2021 6:58 pm

Bad news on multiple fronts

The team lost a lot of trade equity with him, and he will likely return next year to once again show whether or not he’s a long term piece

the tank will take a hit too, as going small or Beli are better players than him now

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March 15, 2021 7:19 pm
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I was arguing, early in the year, part of why I wanted them to deal Bags early was to do it before he had an inevitable injury. That idea was somewhat scoffed at but…..

He’ll fully recover but add injury prone to the list of reasons why Bags is not the future of the Kings. I hope they don’t use this as a rational €œwe don’t know how good Bgaley can be€.

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March 15, 2021 7:52 pm
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 I hope they don’t use this as a rational €œwe don’t know how good Bgaley can be€.

That is exactly what they will do.

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March 15, 2021 8:30 pm
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Agreed, I mean, what else can you actually say at this point if you’re honestly – honestly, now – trying to defend Bagley?

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March 16, 2021 7:55 am

So you feel that Marvin, who while having a solid game, and who has been playing well lately, requires a defense for, (checks notes), breaking his hand during the course of playing an NBA game?

Honestly, what the fuck is the matter with you?

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March 16, 2021 7:17 am
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Yeah, I think we are going to be getting some revisionist history in about a week or two when folks like Kayte start saying how good a year Marvin had been having.

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March 16, 2021 9:02 am
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Yep. They’ll focus on the counting stats and three point percentage, and ignore the passing, defense and free throw percentage.

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March 16, 2021 10:56 am
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And the anti-Bagleyites will not acknowledge that there was some improvement in his game as the season wore on.

Plus, I’ve been really fascinated by the Venn cross-section of posters here who want the team to lose as many games as possible, but don’t want a “terrible” basketball player to get many minutes.

I’m still in the camp that he was not improving quickly enough to be a legitimate piece of the future puzzle, but he did improve in quite a few facets of the game over the last month or so, including defense. There’s probably a role for Marvin in the NBA somewhere, but his ceiling is lower than the team needs it to be.

Ultimately, Marvin receiving those (nearly 1,000) minutes was probably productive for McNair’s evaluation of his longterm NBA fit.

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March 15, 2021 7:37 pm
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He is not a long term piece. What else do you need to see or not see at this point to understand that?

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March 15, 2021 7:42 pm
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This.

Not trying to turn a negative into a positive (or another negative depending on how it decreases the tank) but the team plays better with Bjelly taking Bagley’s minutes.

The only positive would be the defense would still suck with Bjelly and he gets more run to increase the trade value.

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March 15, 2021 7:02 pm

I feel bad for the kid, hope he gets well soon. In the meantime, what does our new GM do now?

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March 15, 2021 7:38 pm
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Trade him for any other player in the NBA. Literally, any other player.

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March 15, 2021 7:05 pm

I feel bad for Bagley. I feel worse for Kings fans.

Maybe still too soon to call him injury prone but fragile is definitely in the mix.

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March 15, 2021 8:12 pm
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I’m going with injury prone, more specifically €œtough as a soap bubble.€

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March 16, 2021 9:32 am
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Greg Oden 2.0

GOD I hope not…

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March 15, 2021 7:05 pm

I feel like this is a sign that it’s time to move on. I truly believe it’s in the best interest of all parties involved.

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March 15, 2021 7:09 pm
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Yes. It’s not going to happen here.

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March 15, 2021 8:15 pm
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Yep.

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March 15, 2021 8:16 pm
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i mean historically speaking leaving sacramento has been in the best interest of all players

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March 15, 2021 8:29 pm
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That’s actually a very good point. Because we suck, we will never actually entice good free agents to come here.

So, pray tell, how are we supposed to become a good team?

Answer … through the draft.

But that doesn’t work when 2018 happens.

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March 15, 2021 7:08 pm

Good Lord. I mean, can we ALL just agree now?

Worst mistake in franchise history. So, yet again next year, Bagley supporters will be like, €œyou know, he’s only 23, he’s only in his fourth year, we just need to see what we have. He made some progress this year.€

I mean … enough.

Can’t even trade him now, not that his trade value was worth a crap before this.

No, I don’t feel sorry for him.

He’s not a good basketball player, he’s about as durable as a soap bubble, his family is toxic, and he shows no interest in figuring it out.

Go ahead, I’ll wait.

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March 15, 2021 7:24 pm

Not a huge fan of Bagley but I still feel for him.

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March 15, 2021 8:16 pm
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If it makes you feel any better, he will have erned several tens of millions of dollars for a career in rehabilitation.

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March 15, 2021 8:27 pm
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LOL, exactly. Even if he never played again he has banked millions for playing suckass basketball.

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March 15, 2021 7:31 pm

We can all agree that you are being a Mr. Meanie😀

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March 15, 2021 7:41 pm
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If by Meanie you mean €œnon-delusional Kings fan who knew this was a colossal mistake the minute he was drafted ahead of Luka,€ then yes, I am King of the Meanies.

Come on, man, even the biggest idiot Bagley supporter can’t defend him at this point.

But, I know all too well some of you will try.

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March 15, 2021 7:44 pm

I’m with you LaBCC. Hated the pick from first moment. Seeing things rationally is called being a hater. Same arguments made for Valde, Cuz, etc etc etc.

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March 15, 2021 8:01 pm
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Losers are addicted to losing. It’s all they know, and what they’re OK with.

You’ll see as this thread goes on and all the idiot Bagley supporters come out of the woodwork and try to flame me up it’ll be nothing but excuses, excuses, excuses.

The very goddam day we got the #2 pick I was like, oh my God, it could actually happen, we could get our LeBron, our Kobe, our Jordan, our Anthony Davis, our Kawhi, whoever … a true, €œsomeday they’ll put a statue of him outside the arena€ type of player.

We had to sweat it out when Phoenix had the top pick (and I swear when they hired his Euro coach I was like oh, shit, savvy move there), but then they go with Ayton and I was like, holy shit, we did it.

Aaaaaaaall we had to do was run that little draft card up to Silver and let the next 15-year-long party begin, first back to NBA relevance, then playoff participant, then actual contender, to by the grace of God, NBA champion!

And then, Vlade decided some stupid personal beef with Luka’s dad somehow circumvented the job he was paid to do … make the best possible selection for the Sacramento Kings.

So instead of the guy who won Rookie of the Year his first year and led his team to the playoffs in his second year en route to All-NBA First Team honors, we got …

Pervis Bagley.

Constantly injured, clueless on defense, with a toxic family in tow willing to make it a hundred times worse for him, his team and the team’s fans.

I thought there was actually light at the end of the tunnel with the recent trade rumors, but now that he’s hurt – again, gasp! – it is yet another reminder of the colossal fuckup this franchise committed in June of 2018 – a fuckup of cataclysmic proportions that this franchise may never recover from.

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March 15, 2021 8:11 pm

Nobody is trying to “flame you up” but you are the one coming on the thread incredibly hot and calling people losers who don’t think the Kings should cut him tonight basically. Your whole damn argument in this comment is how you knew Luka was the guy and wanted him over Bagley. Congratulations…so did 90% of the fucking members here. Doesn’t make you some basketball savant. He’s not Luka…we are all aware.

The question is what do you do now and your belief the Kings should straight release him and take a 11 million dollar dead cap hit going into next season is stupid. It just is and zero chance any GM would do that with this particular player.

He hasn’t blown out two knees, he isn’t a problem off the court etc. They may try to trade him (pretty hard now) but there is no way they straight release him. It’s not about being a Bagley lover, but about practical roster management.

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March 15, 2021 8:23 pm
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Ask Bjelica about practical roster management.

There is literally no more reason to continue €œThe Great Bagley Experiment.€

The Sixers did this with Markelle Fultz. It’s OK to say, €œyeah, uh, we fucked that up. Probably better for us and better for him to just move on.€

It’s really, really pathetic at this point to try to have to explain this.

I have never met a bigger Kings fan than myself. I’m sure there are fans as passionate as I am, but I guarantee no one is more passionate than I am.

Ergo, I €œwant€ the Bagley thing to work out more than anybody, believe it or not.

But there’s no more mystery. This isn’t baseball. We’re not talking about the guy that needs another year in the minors to learn to hit the slider.

He’s a skinny, outdated, injury prone player that has been a complete net zero since he got here.

The only asset he allegedly had, that second jump, has not come close to being the nuclear weapon Vlade thought it was.

He can’t make it a whole year without breaking something.

Sure, we’ll go with €œfreak injuries for the third year in a row€ for a thousand, Alex.

Funny thing about ducks … if they look, walk and quack like a duck, they’re probably a duck.

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March 15, 2021 8:31 pm

Great comparison…the Sixers got a First and Second round pick for Fultz. They didn’t just fucking cut him!

NO one is arguing with you that they should/could move Bagley if they got something for him. Fultz had a way worse career and more red flags than Bagley when he got traded. If ever there was a situation to just straight release a guy, it was that one. But even then the Sixers didn’t just release him and take dead salary cap money.

You may be the most passionate…it’s too bad practical can’t also be used as a descriptor.

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March 15, 2021 8:33 pm
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Good Lord, obviously they should try to get something for him. Give me a fucking break.

Go wash your Bagley jersey so it’s clean when he comes back in six weeks.

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March 15, 2021 8:54 pm

You give me a fucking break. You literally said “it makes a ton of sense” to cut him…you wrote it man, not me.

I just don’t get the logic tonight other than this is just hand shaking at the heavens type bitching…You said quote, “Can’t even trade him now , not that his trade value was worth a crap before this”. So you freely admit he can’t be traded or would be extremely difficult to trade…you then contradict yourself and say he shouldn’t just be cut…but you don’t want him on the team next year for sure.

Please explain what is behind Door # 4 oh wise one.

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March 15, 2021 8:33 pm

You’re still here and if you’ve been here for the past 15 years then you’ve been addicted to losing too LOL

Just leave and come back when the Kings move to WINNERVILLE 😂

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March 15, 2021 8:35 pm
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Guarantee if and when that happens Bagley won’t be part of it.

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March 15, 2021 8:43 pm

Hey we agree on something

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March 16, 2021 9:39 am

Never Nervous Mervis Bellison.

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March 15, 2021 7:56 pm

By meanie he definitely meant saying you don’t feel sorry for a 21 year old young man who is trying to maximize his career path and his life earnings, but is frequently prevented to try to do so by freak injuries. A young man who has by all intents and purposes actually has done the rehab and has shown interest in “figuring it out” by trying to fit the team by posting up less, improving his 3, getting in the weight room in the offseason, accepting 24 minutes a night, not complaining when sitting thru every 4th quarter, Oh btw his dad has been quiet since the asinine trade request so maybe Marvin said some things there or not who knows.

But to you he’s just the basketball player picked before Luka, who makes Kings fan disagree with what your opinion is, so who cares if bad things happen to him or the life he’s trying to make for himself.

For the record, I too agree that it’s time for Monte to cut bait on Vlade’s guy so that’s what “side” I’m on for ya.

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March 15, 2021 8:08 pm
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Sorry, I’m all out of World’s Smallest Violins for Bagley.

You can believe everything you just wrote, I’ll believe what I see when I watch the games.

He is not a core piece of this franchise. He starts because Vivek wants him to start.

He gets his 25 pointless minutes and then sits the fourth quarter because even a moron like Luke is smart enough to realize he is a liability at the point in the game when it actually matters.

Maybe on a technicality his dad hasn’t said anything lately, but as recently as a game or two ago someone named €œReggie Bagley€ called Fox a dumbass for not passing on social media.

Go ahead, I can do this shit all night, folks … don’t ever let the facts get in the way of a good post.

He needs to go, and take his whole Lavar Ball wanna be family with him.

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March 15, 2021 8:14 pm
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I’m not disagreeing with you, but I wonder why we have to show compassion and consideration for Bagley while it is totally fair game to ruthlessly rip into CoJo non-stop?

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March 15, 2021 8:25 pm
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Exactly. The amount of excuses made for him are nauseating.

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March 15, 2021 8:27 pm
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I don’t have all the answers, but ripping players with no filter for their performance or effort has become a reality for players and fans and is even a business now with media and I’ve done it myself obviously.

But I draw the line when it comes to injury and something out of the person’s control. How can anyone not show compassion when someone gets injured? Isn’t that being human? That’s why Toronto fans were ripped for cheering when Durant got hurt, but the reality is a majority of fans would have cheered in the heat of that moment. As a sports fan, you know it’s wrong but your chances of winning the title just increased drastically. Overall it was still wrong to cheer when the injury occured. Not saying anyone cheered when Bagley got hurt but not feeling empathy or compassion is wrong in my mind. If it was somebody related to you wouldn’t you care? But not for a random NBA millionaire? All human beings.

Didn’t mean to ramble but that’s the best example to give.

Just my opinion you can have your own.

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March 15, 2021 8:36 pm
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Like I wrote; I don’t disagree with you.

But it’s not CoJo’s or Barnes’ or Buddy’s fault that they got paid. It’s also not CoJo’s fault that Walton plays him so many minutes.

I think (almost) nobody blames Bagley for getting injured, but it is just a part of a culmination of things that can’t be totally ignored either. The best ability is availability as they say, and objectively speaking, that is an issue here.

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March 15, 2021 8:51 pm
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And one; I think a sizable amount of the fans would not be unhappy if CoJo would sustain an injury and force Walton to play the young guys.

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March 15, 2021 9:07 pm
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I agree and that’s where the reality of sports comes in, but if Cojo suffers a major injury and misses the season and a fan says “good riddance” or celebrates, all hypothetical, would that sit well with you? Just a general question.

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March 15, 2021 9:14 pm
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I would feel as bad about CoJo as I would feel about Bagley. And that is my point. When CoJo gets shat upon, almost everyone agrees, when Bagley gets criticism, people are attacked as haters or told to get over Luka or to blame Vlade, not Bagley etc.

The double standard is obvious, IMO.

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March 15, 2021 10:00 pm
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I still don’t know if you would feel bad? Is it that you would feel bad for both players the same or you wouldn’t feel bad at all for both players? Because if it’s the 2nd then you have your opinion on feeling empathy for injury and I have mine and this will go no where, but it has been an interesting conversation.

Why is Cojo looped with Bagley? Their situations are different. Everyone agrees about Cojo because he cannot improve and he is blocking a young player’s development.

The fact is that Bagley is young and has the ability to improve. To say he doesn’t have that ability is ignorant.

I’m not gonna get into it, but we’re still talking about performance based hate and injury based hate, and one is different than the other.

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March 16, 2021 4:25 am
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I would feel equally bad for both players.

I have often been puzzled by the anguish and hangwringing over top players who have made tens or hundreds of millions of $ and then their career gets derailed by injuries, whereas people just shrug when borderline players who worked just as hard (sometimes harder) and gave up jast as much or more than the stars players, get cut from an NBA team early in their career because an untimely injury and never get another chance at even a decent pay check.

People are not so much invested in the amount of human drama surrounding those two types of players, but by their sense of being robbed from seeing a talent blossom, it seems.

We are selfish beings by nature.

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March 16, 2021 4:38 am
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I don’t really see this Rik. Bagley gets hammered here constantly, and disproportionately by guys like LBCC. Even I’m highly skeptical of Bagley being a long term part of this franchise, and I’d probably be classified as one of his “supporters”.

There’s no double standard here, the thing about CoJo is that he doesn’t inspire a lot of passion either way – the dude’s going to be a footnote in Kings history regardless. Bagley’s a much bigger deal in the story of this franchise, at least for this decade.

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March 15, 2021 9:04 pm
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I wasn’t implying that you disagreed or were trying to oppose me, my fault for giving the notion if I did.

To your getting paid point I would argue the strictly technical fact that they also agreed to those contracts. They said yes, as any player would to the money obviously but they had the ability to join either a better team or a better situation. But that’s not the point.

The main point is the two situations are different, performance is performance (why does Cory choose to dribble the air out of the ball) and an injury is an injury (you can’t ask why Bagley decided to hurt his hand).

Does this mean Bagley gets a pass? No way, availability is the best ability that’s why my opinion is he shouldn’t be on the team long term, but I’m still going to feel sorry for him that injuries didn’t allow him to be what could have been for this team.

If he proved he couldn’t play at all that would be completely different. Fans still feel sorry for Oden and Rose. Obviously Rose was a superstar but you see the level of compassion the public has for Rose and Oden. It’s way more than for true performance-based busts like Anthony Bennett.

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March 16, 2021 8:44 am
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We should have listened to his dad.

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March 15, 2021 7:57 pm

I was joking with you.

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March 15, 2021 8:06 pm
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He came to the thread with an intent to argue and complain at other fans for having contrasting opinions, there’s no stopping him now. What a way to spend a Monday night.

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March 15, 2021 8:09 pm
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Hey, if you want to support Loserville forever, you go man.

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March 15, 2021 8:15 pm

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March 15, 2021 8:30 pm

Seeing as you live on this site and watch games as well and care what happens to this team then I think we’re neighbors in Loserville right now.

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March 16, 2021 10:05 am

Everyone knew that Doncic was the obvious choice, other than the guy whose number has been retired by the organization.

The incomprehensible part is why you insist on assigning the blame to Marvin Bagley.

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March 15, 2021 7:33 pm

I’ll bite…I see a lot of complaining in this, but what’s the solution? Yes it sucks, yes worst mistake in franchise history…but he has a contract for next year at 11 million. As you said, prolly not ton of trade value. I don’t see how you do anything except, yes run it back and see what you have and see what season he turns in or improves trade value to start next season.

Unless you want to trade for a second round pick which the kings already have a ton of, the only alternative is too straight release him which makes zero sense.

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March 15, 2021 7:41 pm
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Yes. Trade him for whatever. Use that money to improve the team. Cut bait. This attitude is why we are stuck now w even lower value for Bags. Smart organizations get out early rather than late. Too late. Why make a bad draft pick/mistake worse. His v

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March 15, 2021 8:20 pm
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Well you make the assumption they can trade him and not take any money back in the deal. If he is so terrible, why would any other team want to trade for him and a 11 mill contact for next year?

You probably get a similar disappointing player for maybe slightly less, but cutting or trading him, likely doesn’t free up a ton of additional money to improve the roster.

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March 16, 2021 12:02 am
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Or they could get a 2nd rounder and expiring contracts, this year or next etc so they’d have money in the future. Is there any type of buyout/won’t count 11 million against cap next year?

Don’t know but hanging on is useless.

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March 15, 2021 7:44 pm
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It makes a ton of sense. He reminds me of Barry Zito with the Giants, when they used to run his sorry ass out there every fifth day, watch him get lit up, lose again, and the rationale was €œbut but but we’re paying him a ton of money.€

Guess what, dipshits? They were paying Zito whether he played or not. So why play him if he sucks?

Same with Pervis Bagley. It’s not like he’s a good player in between injuries.

It’s over.

If it takes some if you longer to realize it or even admit it, I can’t help you.

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March 15, 2021 7:48 pm

The biggest thing for me is, if they get rid of Bags and Walton I’ll know McNair is running the show. That rational minds are making decisions. That is my belief.

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March 15, 2021 7:53 pm

And yet in the back half of that contract Zito had a couple league average seasons, ate innings and had a couple monster starts in 2012 playoffs. He wasn’t always worthless even if the contract didn’t match results.
If you can’t trade Bagley for anything right now (presumably) he’s part of the rotation next year even if off the bench. The idea he can’t be part of a 8-9 rotation is stupid. If you can’t realize or admit that, I can’t help you.

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March 15, 2021 7:39 pm

Yes, yes and yes. Exactly. This is same Kingz lens. Move the fuck on.

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March 16, 2021 12:05 pm

Someone’s toxic alright.

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March 15, 2021 7:28 pm

I can’t believe it took this long for a broken hand. Every time he gets stripped his hands go all used car lot wind sock puppet crazy.

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March 16, 2021 8:58 am
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Jazz hands. Thanks Vivek.

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March 15, 2021 7:31 pm

Is this where we talk about a broken bone as if it’s a character flaw? Just curious.

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March 15, 2021 7:35 pm
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more spinach and milk

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March 15, 2021 7:46 pm

Brown, is this good. or bad. ?

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March 15, 2021 9:08 pm
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yeah, this is bad

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March 15, 2021 8:02 pm

Not very good at basketball and injury prone. Thanks Vivek and Vlade.

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March 15, 2021 8:18 pm

How will he wipe his butt, now that he has no hands?

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March 15, 2021 8:41 pm
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LOL

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March 15, 2021 9:40 pm
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You win this thread

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March 15, 2021 8:47 pm

This really sucks. Whatever plan Monte hopefully had is now out the window. Was he going to trade Nemanja, include Parker in a package, and/or move Barnes for future assets? All of those options took a hit now the Bagley is out indefinitely. I really hope Monte stays the course of what the long game plan was and doesn’t feel he has to hang onto those guys to fill Bagley’s minutes at the 4.

ANY HOPE OF MAKING THE 10TH SEED PLAY IN SHOULD BE COMPLETELY ABANDONED BY OWNERSHIP AND THE FRONT OFFICE.

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March 15, 2021 9:14 pm
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I mean, I don’t see how this should matter to what they are doing, assuming they’re not actually setting a goal of being the 10th seed. The season is lost anyway. It’s over in ~8 weeks and Bagley is out for 4-6 weeks. The Kings seem to have this weird fixation on being a 30 win team, which is ridiculous. Who cares if they run Metu out there when he gets back, or have to sign a vet off the scrap heap to fill a role with Bagley, Bjelica, Barnes and Holmes gone? I can’t believe there is a large market of people who will watch a 30 win team, but who refuse to watch a 22 win team for a year. I don’t think this should change a thing, and if anything, this is a reason to potentially better the team’s draft odds this year.

And if they are setting a goal to be the 10th seed with the existing core of players, we’re not going anywhere with this GM. Again.

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March 15, 2021 9:19 pm
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I agree, I was just alluding to Amick’s recent Athletic piece where he hints there is still hope among Kings brass of a playoff push. I just hope they don’t really feel that way, especially after Bagley’s injury, an run Fox, Buddy, Hali, Barnes and Holmes 40 minutes a night in hope of making the playoffs, in lieu of trading off vets.

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March 16, 2021 9:08 am
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Agreed. I didn’t mean to imply you thought otherwise. Just that this shouldn’t change the team’s strategy at all. If you’re the Kings and you can move Bjelica for an early second and Barnes for a first, you don’t let Bagley’s injury stop you because you think there is no one to play that position in a lost season.

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March 15, 2021 9:00 pm

An opportunity for Robert Woodard?

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March 15, 2021 9:02 pm
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He’s out until after the deadline.

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March 15, 2021 9:21 pm
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DaQuan?

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March 15, 2021 10:33 pm
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🤷🏻€™‚️

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March 15, 2021 9:02 pm

Should’ve traded Bagley last offseason. The longer he’s on the team, the more injuries he suffers, the lower his trade value gets.

Brittle Bones Bagley isn’t cut out to last a NBA season. Thanks again Vlade

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March 15, 2021 10:00 pm

Let’s see former number two pick from duke get some pt! He’s young folks!

Haha, this team…

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March 16, 2021 1:24 am

I am not trying to be sarcastic (ok maybe a tiny bit) but I was hoping the injured hand was his left hand instead of the right hand so at least he can spend his down time practice the hell out of the right hand…..

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March 16, 2021 7:52 am
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He injured his left hand.

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March 16, 2021 9:58 am
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It’s part of the plan! NBA 3.0!

Or maybe 0.3

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March 16, 2021 7:55 am

Here we go again…

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March 16, 2021 8:02 am

Cheer up everyone. It’s not his mic hand

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March 16, 2021 8:38 am

Now will we see Fox, Ty, Buddy, Barnes, Holmes? This is the starting lineup I advocated for since before the season started (w/Holmes or Whiteside at center)! But with this nimrod coach, I anticipate he will just replace Marvin with Bjelica.

As far as the trade value for Marvin, it was already low as a lizards belly. I do not think him being out 6 weeks would be a concern for an acquiring team but does further the narrative he is fragile as peanut brittle. His trade value of near nil makes the idea of a Bagley for Miles Bridges swap, one trade that I actually like, unlikely.

This does not hurt our Tank if Bjelica starts playing 25-30 MPG. Playing Bjelica more is not going to make us more competitive, the guy cannot move or guard his own shadow.

Marvin should use this adversity to do a lot of machine squats to dramatically improve his base so he does not get pushed around. It is a joke! Take this down time and get serious about dramatically increasing your leg and core strength.

Sadly he cannot do a lot of upper body work but he should try to improve his lower body strength by 30-40% with sprints and heavy weights. The humbling experience and the chatter about his flailing career should serve as extra motivation.

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March 16, 2021 8:45 am

It’s fascinating how quickly some people have pivoted from “Bagley is worthless, no one would want him,” to “I told you that McNair should have traded Bagley! What a dope!”

I would ask how you manage to function with such cognitive dissonance, but clearly, you’re doing just fine.

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March 16, 2021 9:32 am

I feel bad for Bagley. He was just beginning to grasp how to play the NBA game, and, despite his defensive deficiencies, he was starting to look like someone who could become a consistent rotation player. He’s much improved over the Bagley of the first 10-12 games.

But I think his time in Sacramento is now done. I wish him well in wherever he goes.

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March 16, 2021 9:58 am

The Kings should add “screen for osteoporosis” to their pre-draft medical checklist. Good Lord.

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