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    Sacramento Kings 2022 NBA Draft Rumor Roundup with Jerry Reynolds

    It's rumor season, and The Kings Herald Show returns to talk through them all.
    By and | 110 Comments | Jun 21, 2022

    The Kings Herald Show returns with just days to go before the 2022 NBA Draft and a bunch of Sacramento Kings rumors to break down. Listen to Jerry Reynolds, Will Griffith, and Tony Xypteras talk about the latest news and reports surrounding Jaden Ivey, Keegan Murray, John Collins, and more on this episode of The Kings Herald Show. Thanks for listening!

     

     

    For more listening on every draft prospect the Kings are expected to consider on Thursday, you can listen to our last episode featuring Bryant West + Brenden Nunes here.

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    Dub_TC
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    June 21, 2022 6:34 am

    My gut says the same thing now. Keegan at 4, Ivey at 5. That should be fun on the Twitter!

    Mateen Cleaves
    June 21, 2022 6:41 am
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    What an absolute waste of the leverage at 4. If they do this, it confirms the Kings have no semblance of vision for this franchise and instead live in regressive mediocrity.

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    June 21, 2022 8:18 am
    Reply to  Mateen Cleaves

    Disagree. If nobody is willing to pay your price for #4, then take the guy you think is best. If Keegan is their guy, and they don’t think he’ll be there at #5-#8 then you pick him.

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    June 21, 2022 9:06 am
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    Agreed. But I think if they choose Murray over Ivey, Monte be damn sure he picks the correct guy just like Toronto passing up on Suggs to select Barnes which turns out to be the correct choice.

    Mateen Cleaves
    June 21, 2022 10:01 am
    Reply to  jwalker1395

    Nope, Murray won’t be drafted at 4, game theory calls for taking whatever you can get to move back to 5. I don’t care if it’s three second rounders. We need to take advantage of this opportunity.

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    June 21, 2022 11:43 am
    Reply to  Mateen Cleaves

    Theory says to do that, yes. But it also assumes Detroit will give you something in return. Detroit might call Sacramento’s bluff and not offer anything, in which case Sacramento should take whoever they want.

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    June 21, 2022 11:56 am
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    Exactly. We all pretend as if we know the “proper” order of the draft all the way up until Scottie Barnes goes before Suggs and Giddey jumps to #6.

    With all the smokescreen teams put out, the only certainty of getting the guy you want is picking him when you have the chance – draft slot be damned.

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    June 21, 2022 12:12 pm
    Reply to  jwalker1395

    Of course you are correct.

    If Murray is the guy, then he is the guy, regardless of what all of they guys who are paid to get clicks say on the internet.

    Mateen Cleaves
    June 21, 2022 1:01 pm
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    Well then we have to ask how much is Keegan really Monte’s guy? Because if the degrees of separation between him and Ivey are minute, you move back. If it’s a steep drop off, then (1) I question Monte’s judgment and (2) fine. But frankly we need to call all these other teams’ bluffs and set a new tone for this franchise. I’m tired of getting bullied around by the league, we own this blacktop, let’s act like it. Second, regardless of what Chris’ models suggest, Ivey has a clutch gene. We need that gene on this team. Murray is not a take the game over kind of player and we desperately need one. If the move is to trade away the 4 for a bunch of firsts next year where the draft is far more talented, then do that. But for us to just say “he’s our guy and we are comfortable at having him at 4” is so Kangz. We aren’t the Spurs in terms of coaching so stop drafting like them.

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    June 21, 2022 5:22 pm
    Reply to  Mateen Cleaves

    While I don’t think there’s a steep drop-off between Murray & Ivey, I think there’s definitely a drop-off that puts Murray ahead of Ivey. If the Kings prefer Murray, it’d be ideal if they could move back, but there may not be a deal that makes sense for them.

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    June 22, 2022 9:16 am
    Reply to  jwalker1395

    For what it’s worth (2.5% of squat), I had Suggs lower than Barnes. I just don’t see it with Suggs.

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    June 21, 2022 1:45 pm
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    Your game theory is flawed because you are already under the mindset that Murray is not BPA and that Detroit wants Ivey so bad they are willing to give up assets for him. That’s just one scenario of many. For all we know Detroit, Indy, Portland or even more have Murray as their #4.

    If Monte has Murray as BPA or even on par with Ivey, don’t fuck around…just draft him.

    The last thing you want to do is draft Ivey because you want to trade back for Murray.

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    June 21, 2022 9:01 pm
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    I hear Portland and Pacers have Murray as #4. Pistons have Ivey. A trade to Pacers risks losing Murray and Ivey. That only makes sense if Collins comes to Sac.

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    June 21, 2022 8:51 pm
    Reply to  Mateen Cleaves

    Pacers want the #4 to pick Murray and so does SAS.
    Pistons and others want the #4 to pick Ivey.
    If Murray is the Scottie Barnes of this draft, the only safe trade is to Pistons. Do they want Ivey enough to give up anything.?They MAY want Sharpe at 5 if Kings take Ivey, leaving Murray to the Pacers. If Kings take Ivey, could wait and see if Pistons take Sharpe and then trade Ivey to Pacers for #6 but, ah ha! Pacers may not want that.

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    June 21, 2022 10:35 am
    Reply to  Mateen Cleaves

    Excellent post. Agree

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    June 21, 2022 11:57 am
    Reply to  Dub_TC

    I have Murray>Ivey, but I have a feeling that the Kings have Ivey>Murray.

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    June 21, 2022 7:11 am

    Now we’re talkin”!

    rockbottom
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    June 21, 2022 8:03 am

    Trust Monte and Murray a very good pick . Maybe, the best of all as time will prove .

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    June 22, 2022 9:21 am
    Reply to  rockbottom

    nice

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    June 21, 2022 8:56 am

    Honestly, that feels like the obvious and rational outcome. IF the Kings don’t end up getting a great offer for the pick, I fully expect them to take Murray and have expected it since the lottery.

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    June 21, 2022 9:18 am

    Sure sounds like the choice is Keegan Murray, doesn’t it.

    What is the feeling on Banchero vs. Murray, should the Triumvirate not go as expected?

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    June 21, 2022 9:42 am

    BPA, if Banchero is there and is BPA for Monte then he should be the pick.

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    June 21, 2022 10:25 am

    It appears the Kings will most likely draft Murray but will they bring someone else along with him by strategically. Also let’s hope they get Koloko in the second round.

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    June 21, 2022 9:02 pm
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    you are so focused on Koloko !
    ( and if he is there at 37, I agree)
    He does move his feet.

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    June 21, 2022 11:04 am

    If any of the presumed top 3 fall, take them.

    rockbottom
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    June 22, 2022 6:06 am

    Like Thomas Robinson was – ugh on presumed . Pick best player .

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    June 22, 2022 12:30 pm
    Reply to  rockbottom

    TRob has nothing to do with any of this. He had nothing in common with the top 3 as a player or prospect and none of the FO or ownership people involved in that decision are still around. I get that we’re all traumatized, but let’s try to move forward.

    richie88
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    June 21, 2022 12:02 pm

    I really like Murray, but I think Paolo’s easily better as a prospect.

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    June 21, 2022 9:35 am

    Jaden Ivey going to the Kings WOULDN’T BE THE WORST OPTION.

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    June 21, 2022 9:43 am
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    In Monte we trust.

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    June 21, 2022 11:04 am
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    It wouldn’t be the end of the world, but it is my least favorite of the reasonably likely options.

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    June 21, 2022 12:05 pm
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    It wouldn’t be the worst option, but it wouldn’t be the best option IMO.

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    June 21, 2022 9:47 am

    Rumor has it that Assistant to the Assistant to the Assistant GM Anjali Ranadive is high on Kyrie and Westbrook and wants obtain the two at all costs.

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    June 21, 2022 11:59 am
    Reply to  TheGrantNapear

    I think I’m going to throw up.

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    June 21, 2022 9:03 pm
    Reply to  BabalooMagoo

    I already did. Projectile !

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    June 21, 2022 12:07 pm
    Reply to  TheGrantNapear

    That isn’t funny.

    Kosta
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    June 21, 2022 9:48 am

    Did they end up actually going to dinner?

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    June 21, 2022 10:22 am
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    That’s actually funny knowing Fox’s feeling towards In n Out.

    I wonder how Fox feels now that Raising Cane’s is popping up all over the region now?

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    June 21, 2022 4:50 pm
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    The funny thing is What A Burger truly sucks, also. In N Out is better, but only because What A Burger is awful. In N Out is simply meh.

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    June 22, 2022 9:24 am
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    Brilliant.

    Obligatory: Californians! In-n-Out is okay. It’s not great, and if you don’t eat the fries within four minutes of them coming out of the fryer, they are cardboard.

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    June 22, 2022 11:52 am
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    The fries are definitely its weakness.

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    June 22, 2022 12:31 pm
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    They are slightly better if you order them well-done. But still not great.

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    June 22, 2022 12:36 pm
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    It’s as good or better than any other major fast food burger chain. The only one I’d put comfortably above it is probably Burgerville up in the Pacific Northwest. Maaaayybee Culver’s. Personally, I think Shake Shack is overrated like 5 Guys before it.

    But really, we’re talking about a really low bar here. Pretty much every town has a little burger/shake stand that’s better. On a sidenote: did Nationwide Freezer Meats close entirely, or just move?

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    June 22, 2022 12:40 pm

    Fully agree about shake shack and 5 guys. Culver’s is pretty good but because of their custard and pork tenderloin.., I think In and Out is the best for fast food, especially animal style; plus the price is on point!

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    June 22, 2022 2:10 pm
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    The custard is the best item on Culver’s menu, but I also like the burgers.

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    June 22, 2022 2:07 pm

    There are some good to great items on Burgerville’s menu (I really like the fish sandwich & most of the shakes), but I’d put its burgers well below most burger chains. Culver’s is great.

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    June 21, 2022 9:54 am

    Per Bleacher Report:

    1. New York Knicks Receive: No. 4 overall pick, C Richaun Holmes
    2. Sacramento Kings Receive: No. 11 overall pick, 2023 first-round pick (via Dallas Mavericks), G/F Alec Burks, SG Quentin Grimes

    Always amazes me how proposed trades by these websites involving the Kings always has us getting fleeced. It’s basically the number 4 pick for a mid first rounder this year and a late first rounder next year.
    And the heading of the article is “Realistic Trades We could see during 2022 NBA Draft Week” LOL.

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    June 21, 2022 9:57 am
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    this is such trash, why. just why

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    June 21, 2022 10:20 am
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    Yuck

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    June 21, 2022 10:32 am
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    The trade I saw was
    Fox and Holiday to Knicks for
    Knicks 11th pick, Toppin, Quickly, Walker, and Burks

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    June 21, 2022 1:48 pm
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    I just might do that if I really like Ivey and want to hand the PG keys to Mitchell. If Sochan is there at #11, I’d definitely do that deal.

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    June 21, 2022 12:20 pm
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    Ugh. That’d be awful & it would only be a possibility if Vlade was still the GM.

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    June 21, 2022 1:41 pm
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    Amazing how Knicks always win on paper but rarely in fact . East coast bias .

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    June 21, 2022 10:30 am

    Dream outcome? Mine is a bit more simple. Part of it has already occurred; the Kings jumped into the top 4. Now I would be pleased if they select a player who will be seen as a good solid pick in hindsight, not only 1 or 2 years from now, but also at the 5 year mark and at the ten year mark. (You all noted how both teams in the last two finals got there that way.

    sleeper pick? I think the guy who has dropped way off the draft board and is now projected to go in the 2nd round or undrafted who I think will find a way to succeed in David Roddy. Not saying superstar, but I think he’ll significantly outplay his draft position.

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    June 21, 2022 12:17 pm
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    my dream scenario: trade back to Detroit for Bey and the 5th,and get Murray. Pick up Roddy in the 2nd to play SG/SF and absolutely bully those players opposed to him. Pick up shooters in FA like Monk, Beasly, TJ Warren, and trade HB for Duncan Robinson. Trade Holmes for PJ Robinson….

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    June 21, 2022 1:33 pm
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    Can’t argue with Bey and Murray, but I doubt Detroit would do that. Roddy in the second round would be a nice pickup I think. I wonder what his draft stock would be if he shot 2/3 from three at the combine scrimmage rather than 0 for 3. Free agency is after.

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    June 22, 2022 9:26 am
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    For the name alone!

    David “Big Body” Roddy. I wouldn’t object to grabbing him in the second round.

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    June 21, 2022 10:38 am

    Jerry said what I’ve been saying. The ship has sailed when you start saying he’s a 1 or he’s a 2 and so on. Just get some complete versatile players. This traditional positioning ship has sailed away several years ago.

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    June 21, 2022 11:38 am

    if we draft Keegan at 4 it will be a mistake. My guy feeling is starter or yet another role player. We will look back upon this draft and passing Ivey as a huge mistake right behind the likes of Luka. This team loves kicking you square in the nuts repeatedly.

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    June 21, 2022 12:07 pm
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    Ivey isn’t the level prospect of Luka but it will definitely be a mistake if they pass on him at 4.

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    June 21, 2022 12:15 pm
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    I definitely prefer Murray’s skills to Ivey’s athleticism. Ivey’s ceiling is theoretically higher, but I think Murray’s likely to be the better player.

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    June 21, 2022 12:20 pm
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    I honestly have yet to see a valid reason as to why Ivey is better other than elite athleticism..

    when I press people as to why Ivey will be better it’s all about hope that his athleticism transfers

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    June 21, 2022 12:58 pm
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    I just keep thinking that a very good 6-8 guy is more valuable than a great 6-4 guy. Watching these playoffs (and the Dub’s do not win the championship if not for Wiggins ability to guard Doncic and Tatum), looking at rosters, there is just way more talent at the guard position, from point gaurds to shooting guards to combo guards, than there is at power forward/small forward.

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    June 21, 2022 1:32 pm
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    Yup, wings win rings is the new NBA trend. Plus defenders that can guard multiple positions and hit from three are the bee’s knees. Murray can do that, while Ivey cannot.

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    June 21, 2022 4:01 pm
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    And, of course, there’s no real reason to believe Ivey has a better chance to “great” than Murray.

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    June 21, 2022 2:50 pm
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    not even close to Luka type player/prospect…stop it lol

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    June 21, 2022 3:19 pm
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    I didn’t mean for it to sound like I was comparing him to Luka. I was comparing the draft position to when we had the chance to get Luka. We drafted for fit then also and now looking back what a stupid fucking mistake that was. So let’s draft for need again and make yet another stupid fucking mistake.

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    June 21, 2022 3:36 pm
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    I have a legitimate question, you are all for Ivey at four. I would like to better understand why you feel Ivy is such a better player aside from athleticism.

    I understand why people like him, But aside from people thinking he might be Ja Morant based off of athleticism I think that the overall skill level is not there

    Sincerely would like to understand why you are all in on Ivey

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    June 21, 2022 4:05 pm
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    Luka was a fit as well so I don’t think that was the case…I think Vlade tried to be smarter than everyone else and just showed he was an idiot

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    June 21, 2022 4:07 pm
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    I think Occam’s Razor says Vlade’s FO just thought Bagley was a better prospect.

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    June 21, 2022 5:28 pm

    Which was idiotic.

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    June 22, 2022 9:27 am
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    That’s Monday morning quarterbacking, even though all of us were loudly quarterbacking on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday morning.

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    June 22, 2022 11:55 am
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    I thought Bagley was the 9th best prospect in that draft.

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    June 22, 2022 12:44 pm
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    Yeah, that’s roughly where I had him as well. Maybe 8. I can’t quite remember.

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    Umm…. from there, I can’t remember. The next few were Bagley, Robinson, Porter Jr., Zaire Smith, etc. But I can’t remember the order. Bagley was probably at the top of that group.

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    June 21, 2022 1:11 pm

    found this that Knickerbockers offered multiple firsts for the 4th

    Knicks Rumors: 'Multiple' 1sts Offered for Kings' No. 4 Draft Pick; Jaden Ivey Linked

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    June 21, 2022 1:29 pm
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    I wouldn’t trade the #4 for future picks alone. I’d start with the #4 for the #11, a starting caliber player (Barrett?) and possibly an additional future pick. It’s a king’s ransom or keep the pick.

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    June 21, 2022 1:46 pm
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    Yes. Actual trade that should improve the team greatly .

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    June 22, 2022 9:29 am
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    I’ve got no interest in sending the pick to NY other than for something that includes Barrett. He’s their best asset, and the dropoff is steep after him.

    I like Toppin, too, but for the pick, I’ve gotta have RJ.

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    June 21, 2022 5:32 pm
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    I think NY’s picks & players aren’t good enough to get #4. I’d be upset if Monte traded #4 to them (& it sounds like that’s unlikely).

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    June 21, 2022 2:01 pm

    Anyone like the idea of kings trading down from 4 to 8 for herb Jones, and Larry Nance? Kings send out Holmes to match salaries, or kings send out holiday, Terrence Davis/harkless, and len.

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    June 21, 2022 2:13 pm
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    You know who wouldn’t like that idea? New Orleans.

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    June 21, 2022 2:17 pm
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    Yeah, N.O. is the only team I see the doesn’t have an interest in trading up because they don’t need an off ball scorer or a big, all of which are likely going #1-5.

    I feel what N.O. does want is a PG. What about Fox for Graham, Nance, Murphy III, and the #8? I’m not sure Fox is worth that much, but maybe New Orleans is desperate to win now.

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    June 21, 2022 2:30 pm
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    I think that with McCollum, Ingram and Zion on the floor, they would be looking more for a Davion Mitchell or a Tyrese Haliburton than a De’Aaron Fox. They have their big three, and Jones fits them like a glove and is on an insanely valuable contract, so he’s going nowhere.

    I could see the Pels trading out of the pick for immediate help, but I could also see them taking Griffin or Davis here and calling it a day. Or maybe they shrug at the value give-up and draft TyTy Washington.

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    June 21, 2022 2:33 pm
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    You don’t see Dyson Daniels as the guy if they can’t trade out from 8?

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    June 21, 2022 2:36 pm
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    Certainly possible if he’s still on the board.

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    June 21, 2022 4:09 pm
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    He’s actually kind of an ideal partner for McCollum. Fox, on the other hand, isn’t.

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    June 21, 2022 4:45 pm

    Yeah, that’s what I thought too. Secondary or primary ball handler, doesn’t want to shoot, will make the right passes and play defense at a high level.

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    June 21, 2022 5:35 pm
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    If Daniels is gone before #8 & Sharpe’s still available, I wouldn’t be surprised if NO drafted Sharpe.

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    June 21, 2022 2:21 pm
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    I read they were looking to move out of their draft slot entirely from an si article. Kings could maybe trade back into that 8th slot, but how would that work? Future first for it? Or can players go out for it?

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    June 21, 2022 3:12 pm
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    There are 29 teams that could offer on the #8 pick. The best offer that the Kings could make (and I’m not saying they would) would be Mitchell, who would have more on-court and payroll value than (say) Barnes. I think that if NO is hell-bent on moving the pick, they could do better. But if you’re going to try to squint and find even a million-one odds chance of happening deal between the Kings and Pels, it would probably be Mitchell for the #8.

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    June 21, 2022 2:28 pm

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    The Kings want No. 6 + two future first-round picks in order to move down from No. 4 with the Pacers, which Indiana declined, per @bkravitz
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    Sacramento’s outrageous asking price is making it likely they stay put and select Keegan Murray or Jaden Ivey.

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    June 21, 2022 2:31 pm
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    June 21, 2022 2:46 pm
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    Kings should be asking for something like this and see if anyone is willing to play ball.

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    June 21, 2022 2:50 pm
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    I’d rather have a vet like brogdon in place of the 2nd future first

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    June 21, 2022 3:29 pm
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    I’d rather have player actually who plays over 60 games and doesn’t cost $30 mil to do it.

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    June 21, 2022 4:12 pm
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    This, I’m happy to take a high upside play on an oft-injured if:

    A. They come along with extra assets to take on their bloated contract (ala Hayward)
    or
    B. They are a potential bargain on a low risk deal (ala Oladipo)

    But neither of those are the case with Brogdon. Which is to say, I wouldn’t place a ton of value on Brogdon in the balance of the trade.

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    June 21, 2022 5:40 pm
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    I’d rather have Duarte than an injury-prone player like Brogdon.

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    June 21, 2022 7:59 pm
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    Yeah but they aren’t going to offer him. I think best from them is brogdon, 6 and one future 1st.

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    June 22, 2022 12:55 pm
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    Which I’d probably take if the top 3 go as expected. That said, I don’t think that works money-wise. So it would probably have to be a bigger deal if Brogdon (and his contract) were involved. Probably something involving Barnes (who makes sense for them). Which, of course, could force the Pacers to add another decent asset (ie. another future pick, Jackson, Duarte, etc.).

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    June 21, 2022 9:13 pm
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    no- too big of a salary for tooo few games played

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    June 21, 2022 4:06 pm
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    I appreciate them setting a high price. That said, unless one of the top 3 fall, I’d happily take #6, a future 1st, and one or two of Duarte/Jackson/Brissett/Bitadze/#31.

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    June 21, 2022 5:30 pm

    I’d be ok with Jackson, brissett, future first, and 31. I want no part of brogdon.

    Washington could be a good trade partner with them really high on Ivey. It would be important to make sure you get a lightly or non protected 2023 first as I could see them being terrible without the wing depth the kings would take, porzingis out injured, and beal out injured.

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    June 21, 2022 9:12 pm
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    Proud of Monte for that price. Pacers want Murray, not Ivey.

    This could be done in conjunction with getting Collins
    then take Daniels or Mathurin at 6.

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    June 21, 2022 4:54 pm

    I will continue to say this: I think Chet Holmgren is there at 4. Not sure why, just a hunch.

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    June 21, 2022 5:08 pm
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    Trade #4 to Pistons for Grant and assets.Draft Keegan Murray.
    Trade Grant to Blazers for Hart and #7. Draft Mathurein.
    Trade Barnes to Cavs for Caris LeVert and pick#14. Draft Tari Eason.
    Get Looney in free agency.
    Starters-Fox, LeVert, Hart, Murray, Sabonis.
    Backups- Mitchell, Divincenzo, Davis/Mathurein, Eason, Looney/Queta.

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    June 22, 2022 9:32 am
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    It’s just that simple.

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    June 22, 2022 4:45 pm
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    The Pistons just traded Grant to the Blazers. Their goes that idea.

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    June 21, 2022 9:18 pm

    Late to this, just got to listen after work today. And great show Tony and Will.

    And I am floored by Jerry’s kind words as someone who grew up admiring him as a coach, GM, and announcer. It’s the highest compliment and always nice to get validation from someone you have so much respect for. Of course, I really appreciate the kind words from the two of you and respect you as well.

    Next time you talk with him (off air), please thank him for me and let him now I appreciated what he said (or Jerry, if you are reading this, thank you so much).

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    June 22, 2022 9:34 am
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    I was very happy to hear Jerry praise your work so highly, and rightly so! When a guy who has actually been the one doing the analytics in order to make a pick suggests that our analytics-oriented front office would do well to review your work?

    I honestly can’t think of a higher compliment, other than them offering you a job.

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    June 22, 2022 9:37 am
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    Don’t tell him that. It’s amazing to have premium content like that for free.

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