When Tyrese Haliburton slid to the 12th pick in the 2020 NBA Draft, Kings fans couldn’t help but celebrate their fortune. Instead of debating the merits of Tyrese Maxey versus Aaron Nesmith, Sacramento walked away with a top-5 rated prospect, a rare stroke of draft luck for a derelict franchise.
But once the dust had settled, the tears of joy had been wiped away, and the confetti had all been swept up and discarded, expectations for Haliburton began to temper a bit. He was a sophomore combo guard, and it’s not often that rail-thin secondary ball-handlers who boast an odd shooting form and who struggled to create their own offense in college often become massive successes in the NBA. His future was discussed in more muted tones, often in the vein of a complimentary player to the cornerstones of De’Aaron Fox and Marvin Bagley and whoever the Kings selected in the 2021 draft. Experts often described his ceiling as a competent starter who could possibly develop into some sort of “super role player”, a la Shane Battier or Danny Green.
Six games into his NBA career, Tyrese Haliburton has begun to blow that high-floor, low-ceiling projectition out of the water. His career arc isn’t that of a high-end role player. He’s a high-end role player right now. Place him on any NBA team, from championship contender to lottery tanker, and Haliburton would be receiving big minutes, and for good reason. He’s begun to prove himself as a guard who can play either position, as an efficient scorer, as an individual and team defender, and as a clutch performer. Holes in his skill set certainly do exist, but they’re pretty easy to overlook when he impacts the game in so many different, positive ways.
One of the most impressive aspects of Haliburton’s performance thus far has been his ability to toggle between a primary and secondary ball-handler at the drop of a hat, with no efficiency lost between the two roles. On the season, he’s recorded 28 assists to just 4 turnovers, placing him third among all NBA guards in assist to turnover ratio. In the half-court, his pick-and-roll instincts are, frankly, better than De’Aaron Fox’s, and that’s not in a one-to-one comparison to Fox as a rookie player, but as a comparison to current-era De’Aaron.
Tyrese ranks as the second-best pick-and-roll initiator in the entire NBA, averaging 1.4 points per possession and drawing a shooting foul 20% of the time. Perhaps even more impressive than his scoring has been his control with the ball, as he has yet to cough up the rock in the screening game, despite running the play for about 24% of his time on the floor. Comparitively, Fox is far below Haliburton’s production and efficiency, ranking in the 37th percentile to Haliburton’s 99th, scoring just 0.83 points per possession and turning it over 16% of the time. It’s entirely possible that a future iteration of this team will highlight De’Aaron in transition and as a primary scoring option in the secondary break, while the ball will shift under Haliburton’s control in half-court sets. The kid is probably good enough to handle that swap right now.
Of course, it was expected that a combo guard would be able to handle some initiating duties as he entered the league, as that was his primary attraction heading in the NBA, but Haliburton’s comfort level as a scoring option has come as a complete surprise to many who watched him play at Iowa State. Among rookies who have appeared in at least five games, Tyrese currently ranks third in points per game, but it’s his combination of efficiency and timing that truly impresses. Although he’s third in scoring in his class, Hali has posted just the 14th highest usage percentage. When compared to all NBA guards, Haliburton places in the 90th percentile in true shooting percentage at 67%, while his 48% accuracy from three places him seventh in the league among players who attempt at least four long-balls per game. He’s picking his spots and scoring only when a good opportunity arises, a rare trait for a rookie, especially one who had no Summer League and essentially no training camp to start his NBA career.
Many first year players walk into the league as competent scorers and initiators, as Haliburton has done, but the same top performers often find their downfall on the defensive side of things. That’s not been the case with Tyrese. He’s shown the ability to defend both guard positions, and even some small forwards, and thus far in the 2020 season, he has reduced his opponents’ field goal percentage outside of the paint by 2.1%, third on the team. He’s easily in the running for the most talented perimeter defender on the team already.
Haliburton has also shown a knack for constantly disrupting opposing team’s passing lanes, ranking in the 82nd percentile in steals per game at 1.3, while also leading all rookies with 2.7 deflections per game. His impact as a perimeter disrupter isn’t a Rondo-esque, stat-stuffing selfish play that sacrifices the defensive scheme on the altar of individual accomplishments, either. As a team, the Kings post a defensive rating of 108.1 with Haliburton on the floor, the best mark among rotational players. Conversely, when Hali exits the game, Sacramento’s defensive rating skyrockets to 114.9, the second-worst rating behind Richaun Holmes. Overall, the Kings are outscored by 8.9 points per 100 possessions when the stud rookie sits, second once again to only Richaun Holmes. He’s one of the only players on the team who puts in effort in every single defensive possession, and the results speak for themselves.
The final aspect of Haliburton’s seemingly endless laundry list of accomplishments, and perhaps the most surprising element to his game, has been his complete and total comfort in performing in late, close game situations. Tyrese ranks second in the NBA in fourth quarter minutes per game at 10.2. That’s not second among rookies. That’s second among every single NBA player. And as evidenced by his 15 point, 4 rebound 4th quarter burst to lead the Kings to victory on Wednesday evening, Haliburton should be playing every minute possible in the final period for the Kings.
In clutch situations this season (5 minutes or fewer remaining, 5 point differential between teams), Haliburton has played 19 of 25 possible minutes for Sacramento and has scored 11 points, shot 4/6 from the floor, 3/4 from three-point range, and has yet to turn the ball over in that situation. It’s often said that some players just have “it” when it comes to big-time shot-making, and Haliburton certainly seems to have been born with that splice of DNA; he’s about as cold-blooded as they come.
When Tyrese Haliburton was drafted by the Kings, he was projected a safe-if-unspectacular option. His first few forays into the NBA have proven those forecasts as too conservative at best, and somewhat foolish at worst. Tyrese Haliburton’s ceiling certainly isn’t that of a high-end role player, as he’s playing that part six games into his rookie season. His future is as bright as any other member of the 2020 NBA Draft class.
And as a bonus, off the court, he delivers some razor-sharp commentary on the current state of the USA.
I’M A BELIEVER IN BURT!
FACTS.
Ty = Kings win
He is Ty-WIN, Hand of the Kings!
Rese the hot hand!
Love, love, live Haliburton. So much so, after seeing him in first pre season minutes I place $150 on ROY.
He’s that good and better. How GMs didn’t see it is beyond me. Already my favorite Kings and the best player in the team (impact).
Nice bet basketball wise, but the sad thing is that voters don’t watch as much as they should
he’s leading all rookies in basically every single advanced stat. He’s also getting a ton of buzz among the various NBA experts. If the Kings can get to the play-in, and Haliburton can stay healthy, then I think he’ll be the favorite.
I live in Brazil, I only watch First Take and The Jump of ESPN on YouTube. Kings are only mentioned when Team Bagley says stupid things or when Amin talked some shit about Fox. Hopefully Hali will get the recognition that he deserves.
I’ve had multiple NBA but non-Kings fans bring up Haliburton to me. I think he is getting some league-wide buzz, and he’s only played six games.
Maybe also helps that there’s no LeBron or Zion in this draft class sucking up all the media attention. LaMelo is the closest thing and he’s not that exciting so far. His name literally starts with “Lame.”
When I started to actually pay attention to the draft, aside from Wiseman and Edwards, Ty impressed me with his point guard skills, with his accuracy from distance as kind of a bonus. I was certain he’d go top five, and even with some surprises on draft night, couldn’t see him falling past eight.
Well, sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good, not that the Kings have ever been overwhelmed with either asset. The kid simply understands the game, his role, and adapts instantly to situational changes. He’s smart, and eager to learn.
Ty Ballgame isn’t going to lead the rookies in points, assists, or rebounds, so he won’t get close to winning ROY, but he’s a good bet to be the most complete ballplayer among the rookies by season’s end. That is more than enough.
And seriously, kudos for managing to compliment Rondo’s excellent perimeter defense while at the same time indicating that it also is selfish and of no value to the team. Really makes my want a pretzel.
I didn’t even consider the possibility he’d be available at 12. Never spent any time evaluating (or misevaluating in my case) him before the draft.
I disagree that he won’t win ROY because he won’t lead in a specific category. First of all, I think Haliburton might actually lead all rookies in assists and steals by the end of the season. Even if he doesn’t, his efficiency and contributions to winning WILL be a factor in the voting. If he is at or near the top in every category, contributes to winning, and is ultra efficient, he may very well win the award. It could be a very close race. I would not trade him for any other rookie that is for sure.
Well, I hope there won’t be a media campaign for it like with Evans. It’s just so undignified and needy.
Agreed. By the end I felt like I was actually rooting against him getting 20/5/5. I don’t think Reke ever recovered from that stupid shit, for various reasons.
You would know about that
Playmaker, lockdown defender, clutch shooter and really good rebounder for a guard
Feelin’ Hali excited!

He is a stat stuffer and he has so much swagger. That jumper is translating beautifully too. The best thing is that he plays within himself and is team first. When he settles in to being more aggressive scoring….look out. Steal of the draft.
He just plays the right way, the way team ball was intended to be played, and it is awesome to watch.
I’ll fully admit I had no idea about anything with this year’s draft. I don’t follow college ball. Given it was the summer surge of the pandemic and much bigger things were happening, I wasn’t reading draft analyses or even following the NBA bubble that much. So, on draft night, I had no expectations one way or another.
When we managed to draft Ty, the only thing I knew from perusing mocks and analyses here and on Twitter at the last minute was that we shouldn’t have been able to draft him and we did. Hopefully, I thought, this would be a good sign.
It’s rare for me to become such a big fan of someone so quickly, but this already looks like it’s Ty’s team for the taking someday in the future. This guy is going to do great things in this league, and he’s going to make his name with the Kings. What luck on our part.
Yeah, same here. This was probably the first time in awhile where I paid no attention to the draft propects. I had no idea about any of the players, so I just went with the flow when everyone was jumping for joy at the selection of Haliburton. So all of this is unexpected and welcome!
Maybe I should try this approach next season as well, since I’m a bit superstitious.
Fox should pattern his game after CJ’s. Move him off ball. Ty runs the point. Now we have Dame and CJ lite. Fox would need to live in the gym though to get that jumper right. If they click, they would be nasty on defense.
They play nothing like Dame or CJ though. I actually think the Fox/Haliburton combo can be light years better defensively than Dame/CJ. They probably already are better on that end.
Offensively, these guys don’t have the scoring chops of those guards, and I’d be surprised if either one ends up scoring on the level of Damian Lillard. CJ has a much better jumper than Fox.
I think what we have in Fox/Hali is potentially the most unique guard duo in the NBA. Two guys who are really point guards, but one is a scoring PG and the other an all around PG who is also big enough to guards 2s and 3s. Both are quick, but one is elite level quick. One has ultra high BBIQ, and the other has elite athleticism. I’m not sure there is a current comparison. It’s like pairing Mike Conley/Dennis Schroder combo with a Jason Kidd/Ron Harper combo in the best case scenario? Very unique.
Fox, Hali, and Buddy should be getting the lion’s share of the backcourt minutes. There is no reason each of them shouldn’t be getting 30+ minutes a night. In the near future I see Hali in the Bobby Jackson super sub combo guard role. He could easily spit his minutes between both guard positions. I even want to see a lineup of Fox, Hali, Buddy, Barnes and Holmes more often.
What all this means is Joseph needs to be the odd man out. He is currently getting 23 minutes per game. That needs to be reduced. With some recent PG injuries in the league I wonder if there is a market for him in places like Boston, Orlando or Memphis?
I think Hali is the Doug Christie role, with Buddy as 6th man.
My only pause with that is Buddy can’t run the offense like BJax could. It would all come down to your rotations. Start Fox and Hali, then sub in Buddy for Fox, then sub in Fox for Hali. Basically I’d want one of either Fox or Hali on the floor as much as possible.
Kings are still going to need a 4th guard in that set for spot minutes and right now I’d prefer to see those go to Guy or Ramsey as opposed to Joseph getting 20+ minutes.
I would suspect that this will be the case as the season winds down. Right now as CoJo is a vet and brings more to the table than Guy does, CoJo gets those minutes. And of course, there’s the trade deadline where CoJo might fit somewhere (Boston?) for somebody.
Yup. Seems likely.
I also think having a more knowledgeable player on floor helps other like Bagley get better. Having someone that is not as polished only hurts huts like Bagley developing
Tyrese needs to run the team at point with Fox off the ball as a scorer and Buddy back as 6th man ! Hali far more efficient than Fox as a playmaker ! It will become obvious very soon !
The thing is the Kings starters are actually playing well so far! That 5-man lineup has a net rating of +14.5 in 91 minutes this season. I think there’s some value in keeping Haliburton as the sixth man if the starters can continue to outplay their opponents.
And that number is with Bagley’s mediocre play and Buddy in a shooting slump.
I think Walton has done some interesting things with subbing Fox out so early, and blending the guard play. I do wish that GRIII got a few more wing minutes at CoJo’s expense.
Great article Tim. Not just one of the best Kings draft picks ever, but one of the best draft picks in the last five years or so in the entire NBA. I’m biased to team basketball, I’ll admit, so I find his ability to just step right in to a complicated league and EXCEL to be downright miraculous.
This…
When I watched Thybulle’s early play I was absolutely STUNNED at his ability to disrupt passing lanes. He became in my mind one of the best defenders in the NBA overnight. I’ve never seen anything like that from a rookie, and never thought I’d see anything like it again, and yet, here we are.
(Long post from a guy who couldn’t concentrate on the game last night, family in DC and MD roots and all)
Speaking of Thybulle, why is he playing less than 12 minutes per games right now? The rumors were that he was completely off the table in any off-season Buddy trade discussions which led to an impasse and now the guy is barely seeing the floor…
They filled holes on offense and he’s the odd man out. He’s been reduced to defensive specialist and even then minutes are tough. They’re real high on a rejuvenated Harris, Curry, Milton, and Maxey. In fact Maxey is quietly having himself a nice rookie season.
I think they scored drafting Maxey. He looks like he is going to be a very good player.
Kings FO should call Philly and make a reasonable offer.
Give’m Buddy and a future 2nd, maybe they’ll bite
Hah, a starter shooting 41% for his career from three and a second-rounder for a guy glued to the bench. Damned right they’d bite.
I love Thybulle, I just don’t think it’d take all that to get him.
Nope.
Monte calling his former boss in Philly:
Tyrese Haliburton is going to be our best player by next season. If we can draft one more player of Haliburton’s caliber, preferably a wing player, we’ll be a playoff team.
one thing I’m monitoring is Fox’s catch & shoot 3P%. Currently, he’s 5 of 11 (45.5%), but he was at 33.3% last season. This team will really be cooking with fish grease if Haliburton can handle a lot of the point guard chores to free up Fox as a scorer that’s a legitimate catch and shoot threat.
Interesting. With his quickness he could become an excellent cutter and off ball screen for a catch and shoot. Basically run off ball screens for Fox that have been reserved for Buddy and the Kings might net the rewards.
Great minds…
He is a joy to watch play. Plays smart, doesn’t force plays, and has more self- confidence than most of the Kings. An upgrade from Bogi imo – cheaper, younger, and driven. Can’t wait to see how he develops over then next few years.
He plays like Magic. And the first to celebrate when his passes lead to points as shown by his reaction to Buddy’s late 3. Reminds me of Magic’s first game and first NBA win ever, when Kareems buzzer-beater, patented hook shot beat the San Diego Clippers in 1979. He ran to Kareem and hugged him for minutes as if they have won the champioship! Although Kareem was quick to remind him that it was just the first of 82 games! But Magic’s winning attitude and team mindset were already showcased then. These qualities are never recorded on the stat lines but clearly Haliburton have them!
He’s undoubtedly a hell of an upgrade to Bogi just for the fact that Hali is never tentative with his decisions. Bogi (and other facilitators) oftentimes tend to take an extra 2-5 seconds before he can see the right plays. But Hali is almost always one play ahead.
Watch the 7:30 mark of the 3rd qtr last nite. He was at the baseline between the goal and the corner three, got a pass from Holmes and in a nanosecond whiffed the ball to a wide open Bagkey beyond the arc. He already knew that Bagley is open even before Holmes passed the ball to him. It was a good pass that led to a better pass for an assist. Fun to watch and great display of BBIQ that we have been lacking for a long time.
Tyrese Haliburton will be our next star.
This overemphasis on a player’s display of situational enthusiasm or lack thereof, is just needless bias to dump on players whose responses don’t conform to your own expectations.
Barry Sanders, one of the greatest running backs in history, scored dozens of touchdowns, and walked over to the ref and handed him the football almost every time. No dancing, no practiced routines, just business. Hell, Kawhi Leonard is as good as they get, and you rarely get any outward showing of emotion with him. Does it diminish his greatness?
With due respect Andy, I didn’t mean to overemphasize, I just liked what I noticed last nite as it brought back memories of Magic’s first NBA foray.
Don’t get me wrong, Barry Samders is one of my favorite athletes of all time in all sports. He is the epitome of humility in greatness.
I too have always praised Kahwi’s demeanor when discussing NBA with my buddies. He makes a great, game changing shot and barely shows emotion.
I’m with you on that respect.
It’s just that energy and enthusiasm is more contagious imho.
I think most often than not, a team feeds off of that.
But between a pair of great athletes, I can take either way.
Let us just hope Hali continues to help the team win games!
No argument from me, I just don’t think that a naturally unemotive player should force emotion.
That reminded me of a time in high school where I took a guy deep (a rare occurrence), and as I was rounding third, the coach there remarked, “it’s okay to smile, you know.” I couldn’t tell you what was on my mind at that moment, but I wasn’t about to perform on demand.
You may have noticed a contrarian streak in me. I promise it’s not just for its own sake.
“He plays like Magic.”
Exactly what I’ve been thinking over the last day or so. Except that he’s a great defender, too.
I also see a lot of Larry Bird in him as well. Always in the right place at the right time doing the right thing. His intuitive feel for the game is extraordinary.
Can I get a Wilt? Anyone? Pistol Pete, then?
I’ll give you a Dennis Johnson. Is that good enough?
We could be more succinct and just call him the perfect blend of every player on the Dream Team.
I’ve been characterizing him as a Magic/Pippen hybrid.
Burt reminds me more of Pippen than Magic. He is a do-everything-well player whose sum is greater than his individual parts.
More Pippen like for certain ! Hope he can become 80% that level player !
A great write up is one that is objective and tries to use the advanced metrics to help quantify what my eyes are seeing.
i don’t how much Hali’s game improves in the next few years, but having a mature game now is nothing to be ashamed of.
Thanks for all the hard work.
I’m not sure why, but a player that’s been popping in my head while watching Haliburton is Kevin Johnson when he was at Cal.
His all-around game on both offense and (especially) defense makes me think of Alvin Robertson.
He does have those same quick hands, doesn’t he. Interesting comp.
Effort. I looked it up in my dictionary this morning and there was a picture of Tyrese Haliburton and a link to his youtube channel.
Unselfish. I looked it up in my dictionary this morning and there was a picture of Tyrese Haliburton and a link to his youtube channel.
Useless. I looked it up in my dictionary this morning and there was a picture of my dictionary. Being held by Marvin Bagley’s dad.
I loved the last one.. I am hard on MB3 but do hope he starts to get it..
One thing that’s slightly OT, but I think is tangentially related is Bagley’s made shots last nights. Here’s the shot types: putback, c&s three, alley oop, putback, 4 ft 2P jump shot, c&s three, c&s three, alley oop.
If Bagley can just focus on opportunistic scoring, and improved guard play can provide Bagley with high quality opportunities, then he can consistently be a net positive on offense.
So not one of his made shots came out of him taking the ball down low with his back to the basket? Also no one on one contests? All came within the flow of the offense.
He made one shot in transition off of a Haliburton pass. He caught it at the three point line, and did a little euro step and banked it in the second quarter. It probably wasn’t the best shot since he was defended well, but it went in.
How in the hell did this kid drop to 12? It’s as though there was a team of Vlade’s picking before the Kings.
I have visions of Haliburton developing into a killer. With some added strength he could add a consistent step-back three to his arsenal, and impose his will even more forcefully on the defensive end.
Looks like luck and smarts converged for the Kings this past draft. Hoping for more of the same moving forward.
It’s not an unfamiliar story in the NBA, just one that doesn’t usually benefit the Kings!
Kawhi fell to 15. Giannis fell to 15. Booker at 13. Sabonis at 11. Jimmer at 10. Mitchell at 12. Bam at 14. PapaG at 13.
Tears are my only response to your list.
Wait, are you saying we should shoot for the late lottery this year? 😉
There’s 2 names on that list that aren’t like the others. For the life of me I can’t figure which 2. Low BBIQ
I think a lot of what it is is that he’s not a game changing superstar potentially, he’s just a phenomenal fit as a NBA player who is the ultimate swiss army knife (it’s stunning how much better he is than Bogi; with no shade being thrown at Bogi intended I assure you) on both ends outside of being that physical specimen who can impose his will on the game that way.
I think what we’re seeing is the biproduct of several things. One is that of all the teams in the lottery, the Kings are the best fit. And two, Tyrese Hallburton is checking all of those boxes from the jump.
It’s mind boggling, but I love it. Fuck it, we’ve earned this!
I think he is likely to become a game changing superstar, but not in the way that we are used to seeing. He looks like, to use Pat Riley’s phrase, a “basketball assassin”, a player with a killer instinct to make plays that win games, but one with an amazing versatility and feel for the game. The fact that he executes at a high level on both ends of the floor gives him a very high ceiling. He’s potentially a 1st or 2nd team NBA All Star and All Defensive team, and those kinds of players are extremely rare. Even Doncic, for all his greatness, will never be a great defender.
Love Tyrese Halliburton, but I’ll be shocked if any of this becomes true. Unless he does a Jason Kidd type of triple double every night, then I can see it. But that’s a very rare thing for a reason.
He has been reminding me of a young Grant Hill in his ability to be very good at every aspect of the game. It will be interesting to see how he matures physically, but he certainly seems like an incredibly easy player to build with.
That’s an interesting comp, Mike, but I’ll say this: Hill scored more. Alot more.
Brandon Roy.
We have REALLY earned this. Not the organization but the fans. WE have earned this.
Exactly FK&C.
Nate, what can I say mayne, when you’re right you’re right. And when you’re wrong……………not that that ever happens.
Happens every draft that top players go late in first round ! Klay at 11, Kwahi at 15 Giannis at 16, , Butler at 30 and Jokic in second rd ! Forgot Booker and D Mitchell, Gobert late firsts ! Every year !
Your right always are some…I think what is so surprising about this, is that Hali was projected to go top 5-6. All the guys above were not projected that high except maybe Kawhi. The shocking part to me feels that he fell into the Kings lap : )
The 2017 draft was ridiculously loaded in the lottery – Mitchell probably would have gone much higher in most other years.
Euro-prospects are weird – I still don’t think the NBA has a good handle on how to scout them, particularly with bigs.
Every GM in the league other than the one who grew up in that region seemed to have a handle on Doncic.
During the draft as he kept falling I was in total disbelief. I could not believe this kid wasn’t a top-5 pick. It was just so obvious if you watched him at all. He just does everything so well and sees the game at such a high level I really thought it was going to be nearly impossible for him to fail.
I’m thinking it’s at least partially because Iowa State took a solid step back in his 2nd year, and he wasn’t able to finish the season due to injury. He missed the last 9 or 10 games, and wasn’t able to showcase during tournament time, where players make their names. While many analysis and stuff had him a top 7 type player, maybe there just wasn’t recent taste of how he really can effect games. Also heard things about him and his agent were telling teams not to pick him up, and he wanted to fall to the Kings…but that doesn’t sound very reasonable to me, as much as I love the Kings. Also there were questions his funky looking jump shot would translate to the NBA, visions of Lonzo in there heads . There were some offseason training videos that leaked online kinda throwing shade on his form, and supposed new mechanics. Whatever it is, it’s a godsend that he fell. Dude’s got it.
I’ll be very interested to see how he plays once teams figure out his game and start to go at him offensively and defensively. Will he be able to raise his game to the next level?
I agree, he is still an unknown and I think teams aren’t ready for him, especially his defensive instincts. I highly doubt he is apart of opponents game plans right now. Word will get out and he will need to adjust.
And that’s when fox and Hield will need to step up their game… If defenses are focusing on Tyrese, then things will open up for other guards (at least theoretically).
If defenses are focusing on Ty, that’s a contribution to the Kings offense on its own.
Exactly.
Let’s jump off that bridge when we get there, okay?
Thanks for the feedback, okay.
Stay healthy. Avoid the wall. Keep playing so well that Joseph only finds the floor during garbage time. Collect trophy.
At the same time, he’s never played more than thirty-five games in a season. The rookie wall is real, physically and mentally. I think he’s good for 30-35 minutes a night, but sitting him during blowouts, or limiting his minutes in a back-to-back situation might be prudent.
Tyrese is a better playmaker and facilitator than Fox today !
Am I misreading this or is it a jab at Fox?
If so, can we just be happy about having more than one young competent NBA asset/prospect? It’s okay that they have different skill sets … at least I think, though I am no expert!
If not, carry on because Hali’s playmaking is so far ahead of the curve!
Not meant as a jab except in the sense of Fox being more scorer than true playmaker and ease of ball movement ! Seems Tyrese has that over a very gifted athlete like Fox !
I don’t read it as a jab at Fox. Haliburton just sees the floor better in ways few players can.
All Hail Hali!
It is so fun to watch Hali play. Him and fox are a great complement to one another!
ROY in my eyes as of now.
How often have we rolled out a Fox-Buddy-Hali-Barnes-Holmes/Whiteside line up? I believe I’ve seen it a handful of times and I dig it.
“Potential gets you beat” is a very old adage that is true. However; its very appealing to look at the potential of the Kings and salivate. If Bagley can become consistent and healthy (which is a BIG IF), there is a young core on this team that might be together for a long time. It comes down to development, making the salaries work, and buy in.
Imagine 8 years of development of-
Fox (23-30)
Haliburton (20-28)
Bagley (21-29)
Holmes (27-35)
Barnes (28-36)
Hield (28-36)
Draft Pick (unknown)
I always forget that Buddy and Barnes are the same age.
Sometimes those things are hard to believe, like Gianis being two years younger than Buddy and me being the same age as Carmichael Dave. It can’t be right, it just can’t!
You were both born in 1951?
I give it about a 30% chance that those guys are all still on the team next season. The chances that more than half of them are still on the team even 2-3 years from now are pretty slim. Personally, I think that’s probably a good thing. Obviously, depending who comes and goes and the circumstances.
Exc-Halibur?
Take your rightful place, King.

In my opinion he is much better than Tyreke Evans was as a rookie on defense. His instincts are so natural. Also, we have seen how he is not shy in big moments.
I had to do it. I took an oath as a Kings fan …I had to!
Say what you will about his basketball decisions, but Vivek the person has not made a single mistake as an owner off the court. I am proud to have him as the Sacramento Kings Majority Owner.
OT:
I missed the opportunity to be a part of that thread yesterday concerning the insane events of the day.
Just want to say to everyone please check on your children. My wife is a teacher and she is giving them the floor (on WebX) to speak their minds today and talk about their feelings. This particular class I’m currently overhearing are 12 year olds, and they are in pain.
“….how cruel this world really is…”, said one of the students through tears.
Is it not a tragedy that a 12-year old is saying things like that at that age?
These children are speaking to each other about their feelings so intelligently about what is going on. They sound more intelligent and informed than many adults I’ve heard who talked about yesterday’s events.
All through their passionate (and angry) speeches, they are crying together, consoling one another, and reaching out to each other.
If you haven’t talked to your kids about what is going on, at least ask them how they’re doing, listen to them and let them speak freely. They may very well be depressed.
Rant over/carry on…
Enjoyed the game yesterday and loved Haliburton and Holmes.
Thanks for the insight. My middle school aged son is a lefty kid. So, fortunately in a way, sad in another, he’s not that shocked.
Inthestarz having a field day with the dislike button
I’m sure it’s been said below but my fear is that he won’t win because so much of what he does well is not a traditional counting stat.. I am blown away at how well he’s doing especially without summer league and an extended training camp, I’m also on record as saying I’m not sure why everybody so excited about a player who is the 12th pick in what’s considered a week draft. I never would’ve guessed that he would’ve been this effective this soon he’s a pure joy to watch.
Great write up
Thread Jack: Carmichael Dave talking with Sam Amick this AM, and not saying good things about Joe Dumars. Sounds much like Chris Mullin 2.0, getting in Vivek’s head and making life difficult for the FA.
Oh, surprise surprise.
I mean if Bagley were to develop into a good player, with Fox and Hali’s exceptional playmaking, maybe we end up being better off without having drafted Luka? Maybe?
I’d trade all three right now at this moment for Luka…I couldn’t call it in to the league fast enough.
That being said De’Aaron would have still been on the team if Luka was drafted. So the “better off” question is really would you want Fox, Luka and say Josh Green or Precious Achiuwa from this draft as your 3 or Bagley, Fox and Hali. I think it’s pretty clear what most would prefer.
If you like the second group in that, then that’s the only way you get to a “better off” conclusion.
Eh, I love Haliburton as much as anyone, but you’re always better off having the All-NBA, fringe MVP 21-year-old.
Lol is this a joke??
I could see it. I think Halliburton’s play contributes more to winning than Doncic’s. They’re kind of opposites in lots of ways. Doncic needs the ball in his hands always, Halliburton does not. Doncic has an extremely high usage rate. Halliburton has very low usage rate. Doncic has lots of assists, lots of turnovers. Halliburton has a good amount of assists, very little turnovers. Doncic is a below average 3 point shooter. Halliburton is above average. Donicic is a below average defender, Halliburton is an above average defender that could blossom into an elite defender. Doncic will eat a box of twinkies and gain 10 lbs, Halliburton will eat a box of twinkies and lose a pound.
Man, if Haliburton’s play contributes more to winning than a guy that was the MVP and champion of the Euroleague and ACB as an 18-year-old, then added around 10 wins to his team’s win total each of his first two seasons in the NBA, then we are in for a real treat.
Puuuhleeeeese
I haven’t watched much bball this year.
What’s a good comp for Hali?
A young Andre Iguodala, but with more upside, more PG skills. His BBIQ is extraordinary, upside is Larry Bird level BBIQ. Keep in mind, I’m just talking about his BBIQ, not his overall athleticism and physical ability.
I was thinking of a less-athletic (not a shot; Iggy is a thoroughbred) Iguodala, with perhaps less ability to rack up points the way Iggy did in his prime. I’m not worried about the scoring, since Haliburton is already much better from deep, and his defense is only going to improve.
An absolute gem, this kid.
I like the sound of Larry Legend. If he’s half of Bird and most of Iggy, that’s a great find in the mid lottery.
That would be a great find in any twenty-year period.
I was gonna say…..
Yeah less athletic Iggy with a jump shot sounds pretty good. What I am positive of is that he will always impact winning more than his traditional stats show. It is not an accident that the team looked completely lost when he didn’t play for two games.
He’s basically a more clutch MJ…
Or a more polished LeBron
Busy with that new podcast?
Let’s give everyone some grades so far:
Haliburton: A+
Barnes: A+
Fox: B
Hield: D
Bagley: D (would’ve been a F before last game)
Joseph: C (F- as the primary ball handler)
Whiteside: C
Holmes: A+
Robinson: C
Bjelica: C+
Everyone else: Not enought PT
Agreed?
Holmes: A/A-, gotta cut down on those fouls. Barnes A, too many turnovers for my liking still. Everything else agreed pretty much.
Fox B+ and Robinson B
I’m not going any higher than C for Fox. Maybe it’s the expectations that $163M brings. His counting stats are about the same as last season, and his shooting percentages are down some.
But overall, when the team needs somebody to step up, lead possessions, be dominant, and put the team on their back, I’m not seeing any improvement and maybe slight regression from last year out of Fox. Our rook is doing a better job of this.
After the GS blowout Fox looked very content and chummy talking with Bazemore. I get it, you’re all friends, but if he’s the leader of this team I would think he should be at least a little pissed that his team got trounced for 48 straight minutes.
I’m not telling the guy how to feel, and overall I dig his personality and love that he’s in Sac, but I just don’t think that alpha-type dominance is innate in him, and it’s something I expect from a max player.
Agree !00 plus percent
I understand your points, the franchise player needs to be accountable. I just don’t take Fox for granted in our first three wins of the season, all against good oposition.
Please, watch the final minutes of the third quarter against Denver (2nd game). The team was struggling, offense was dead, then Fox entered the game and started to score, his attitude prevented the game to be out of hand before 4th quarter. Not to mention the block and his display against Denver in the opening night.
Don’t be mistaken, Fox was Kings’ best player in all first three wins and even changing Haliburton for Fox I think we beat Chicago, which is a bad team with scoring power.
Hali is great, I love him, but Kings played Chicago without Fox and played Golden State and Houston without Haliburton. I don’t think Draymond would let a rookie play that greatly.
Just to finish this, it’s already too long. Sac is a bad team with only one of them. This season the team was very good when had both. Give Fox and Hali a good coach and I think they will thrive toguether
(EDIT: The great 3rd quarter of Fox was against Denver, not Phoenix)
Great article. Wow does this kid check every box or what? Just a miracle of a #12 pick so far. Had no idea his scoring efficiency was so high among rookies alongside all the defense and ball handling and ultra-competent playmaking.
Tyrese inspired me to spend actual dollars on a Stathead account just so I could dive in to his numbers as thoroughly as possible. Check this out.
Here is the list of players in NBA history who have recorded a minimum of 28 assists while turning the ball over no more than 4 times in the first six games of their rookie season:
https://stathead.com/tiny/Zun9h
[OT: who knew Isiah Thomas attempted 60 (!) free throws in his first six NBA games!?]
And now here is the list of players who have a 28:4 assist-to-turnover ratio in their first six pro games while also recording 8 steals:
https://stathead.com/tiny/u5b0Y
Feast your eyes.
#ReseROY
#FTM
Laugh at me, but Haliburton is going to be a superstar.
As I’ve said, the game is slower for him, it’s like he’s the only one who knows the rules. For me, one of the closest comparables is Larry Bird. Like Bird, although not to the same extent, Haliburton is considered a lesser athlete with tremendous BBIQ, an unbelievable feel for team basketball. Bird was better offensively, Haliburton is better defensively.
Given that he is already so good, it may be hard to accept that Haliburton still has an upside. But he’s only played 8 games. There will be ups and downs, but he will get even better over the next couple of years, and become one of the most dominant players in the game. He has that special gift of improving the players around him. For him, the game is four dimensional when it is linear for many others.
Wow, Larry Legend !
The key thing here is the impact that Haliburton already has on the team winning games. The Kings are a mediocre team without him, much like the Celtics were bad before Bird. Of course, the Celtics improved about 27-28 games over the previous season with Bird, Haliburton doesn’t have anywhere near that level of impact. But the difference is still striking. If that continues, it will give us a good understanding of the uniqueness of his BBIQ.
The other thing to watch are Haliburton’s numbers going forward. If he continues to produce like this on both ends of the floor as a rookie, it would put him into a rarified group of players historically. Basically All Stars and superstars. Few rookies have entered the league and played the minutes that he plays right out of the box and performed like he has done. It will be interesting to see how he copes with the rookie wall and the adjustments that teams will make to deal with him.
Another comparable: Sidney Moncrief.
Maybe a close version of Scottie Pippen ! But Pippen was bigger and better as a rookie ! Being on a Pippen trajectory Top 50 All time is enough but Larry Legend at another level !
Ty is by far the best rookie I’ve ever seen on the Kings. There’s no years away for him. He’s a good guard right now. Its been 30 years of rooting for this team to see a young player this good. Passes like j will, defends like Christie, shoots (so far) like Peja. I’m in bball love.
No one passes like J-Will.
Its true, but I am reminded of him in those flashy quick passes.
He passes better than J-Will. Sure, Williams was flashier, but a quarter of his passes ended up in the fifth row. Halliburton is just always making the perfect pass, mistake free.
Not true ! Not fair and shows a lack of knowledge !
Ehem! Did you see BJelly’s pass the other night?
Surely you jest about passing like J-Will ! Not even close !
10-5-5!
Finally, the Kings CAN have nice things. You know how you get that feel in your stomach when you’re either worried or confident with certain players on the court? He’s the guy you feel like everything is going to be OK when he’s out there. Has the poise of an 8 year starter in his prime.
Jabari Parker’s season is off to a rough start. He’s been out with a back issue, then personal matters, and he’s out tomorrow due to health & safety protocols.
I hope he is well.
I might be going off on a limb. But, Hali has the potential to be more impactful than Fox. He is already. It’s a small sample size in a crazy new season. A lot of teams are still finding their way. Denver, Houston, Utah, Pels, Dallas. Can Hali be A number one scoring option. Not sure. He did ball out with 15 in the 4th Qtr last night. Sure, it was the Bulls. Hali won’t get much room to breathe once teams start watching film on him. Fox is what he is. Solid. It’s a league of Stars. Kings best chance is trading away assets and let Hali take over the 2 spot 35 min a night. Hield, Barnes, Bjelica, Cojo, Whiteside, and even Holmes. If it means the Kings can get in that Top 7-8 in this upcoming loaded draft.
Anyone have ESPN+ to share the article this morning titled NBA rookie surprises: Breakout skills and standout prospects? Interested to see the national media take on Hali.
Haliburton’s ultimate comp:
Lafayette.
Both Marie-Joseph-Paul-Yves-Roch-Gilbert du Motier de La Lafayette and Lafayette “Fat” Lever.
The first was a ridiculously intelligent, undeniably likable, incredibly underrated man that never got the hype of others but played at least as large a role as any in helping a plucky team beat the odds. The second, well, if you don’t know him take a look. A bit shorter than Hali, but overall their games have a ton of similarities. Fat is in the running for the most underrated NBA player of all time.
more like the siege of dorktown
(fun joke!)
Lafayette or Thomas Jefferson? I’m not sure which is which.
I’d be thrilled if Hali was the 21st century version of Fat Lever.
Kings fans, as an Iowa State fan I can tell you this guy is also just a great person as far as star athletes go. He is smiling and having fun the entire time he is on the court. No team drama at all in his DNA.
Badge Legend