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MONK IS STAYING

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Jan 3, 2024; Sacramento, California, USA; Sacramento Kings guard Malik Monk (0) celebrates after scoring a basket during the second quarter against the Orlando Magic at Golden 1 Center. Mandatory Credit: Sergio Estrada-USA TODAY Sports

MALIK MONK IS STAYING!!!!

ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski reports that Monk will re-sign with the Sacramento Kings for the 4-year, $78 million deal that was the maximum the Kings could offer. Monk will have a player option as well.

This is huge for the Kings. There was concern that another team would outbid the Kings, but Monk’s camp apparently didn’t like the landscape and moved quickly to lock in with Sacramento. This is huge, not just for next season and for Sacramento to have clarity entering free ageny, but also having clarity of Monk’s intentions before the NBA Draft next week.

Monk cannot officially sign his new deal until the moratorium lifts on July 6th.

This is awesome, awesome news. I am so glad Monk will be staying in Sacramento for years to come.

Hey, did you know “Malik” means King in Arabic?

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kgdobter
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June 20, 2024 8:18 pm

Hallelujah!!!!!!!!

Ellis5
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June 20, 2024 8:26 pm

Amazing Grace!!!!!

RobHessing
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June 20, 2024 8:26 pm

Can we now cross undersized guards off our draft list?

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June 20, 2024 8:41 pm
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“cross” I see what you did there.

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June 20, 2024 8:42 pm
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Ha. Yes please.

This is great and at a good number. The Kings don’t need stars now. They need a wing and a 4 who can play like Celtics all did- defend multiple positions- able to shoot and put ball on floor. Or at least first two.

Monte just has to find the right couple
guys for this team. The right fit.

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June 20, 2024 8:47 pm
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MM’s job just got a lot easier.
Go find a 4 to fit next to Domas and some rotational wings and let’s go.

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June 20, 2024 8:58 pm
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How many picks will it take to go get Lauri Markannen?

Could we absorb John Collins to grease the wheels?

Collins/Markannen for Huerter, Barnes, Sasha and Duarte.

Throw in #13 and a lotto protected 1st after the Hawks and call it good?

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June 20, 2024 9:02 pm

You’re not getting Lauri without giving up Keegan. And maybe Ellis. Plus picks. See Ainge, Danny,

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June 21, 2024 9:49 am
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in dictionary- Ainge, Danny is listed under unrealistic jerk

Dan Houlder
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June 20, 2024 9:19 pm

The Kings are not getting Lauri Markannen, imo.

And like RobHessing points out, the Kings wouldn’t even want him at any price acceptable to Danny Ainge.

Russ916
June 20, 2024 10:00 pm

Collins/Markannen for Huerter, Barnes, Sasha and Duarte.

Throw in #13 and a lotto protected 1st after the Hawks and call it good?

Ainge absolutely would not go for that, he wouldn’t even pick up the phone as far as I’m concerned unless it would be to laugh at the offer.

Realistically I think if we were to try and get Lauri we have to give up Keegan and at the very least two FRPs.

If we were to do that I say we might as well get Lauri, Collins & Clarkson, We’d probably have to offer 3-4 FRPs while sending out Huerter, Sasha, Barnes, Davion.

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June 21, 2024 2:55 pm
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Duarte is a deal breaker.

Russ916
June 21, 2024 5:18 pm

Alright, alright, fine Danny! We’ll include Duarte too, even though we’d “hate” to him go, but you’ll be very “impressed” with him.

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June 21, 2024 8:48 am

Ainge wouldn’t trade Lari for anything less than Keegan and 13 or Fox .

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June 21, 2024 9:51 am

That’s some pretty good melatonin you’re taking! Sweet dreams!

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June 20, 2024 9:20 pm
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Agree. They don’t need Ingram. Just two dudes that fit those roles. Josh Hart. Naz Reed types. Maybe even not as good.

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June 21, 2024 9:32 am
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Lauri is a dream. I’d love to hear people’s opinion of Kyle Kuzma. I think he could be better than he currently is in the right situation. It also seems like Jerami Grant might want to stay in Portland. Who are some younger 4s the Kings should be targeting?

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June 21, 2024 9:34 am
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Bobby. Portis.

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June 21, 2024 9:35 am
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Oops – he’s not “younger.”

Redwood Kings
June 21, 2024 9:34 am
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What would you be willing to give up for Kuzma, if you think the Kings should target him?

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June 21, 2024 9:38 am
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Here’s my thing with Kuzma. He had a chance to sign here last season, and he chose Washington. He had a chance to be traded to Dallas, and he declined the opportunity. I think that he now owns a string of coffee shops in and around DC. I think that he likes where he is. He has his ring already, and now he’s just living the dream of getting paid a crap ton of money to play basketball. I have my doubts that the competitive fire burns all that hot inside of him.

I could be 100% wrong about all of this, but Kuzma just gives me those non-serious vibes. The roster needs a good dose of nasty, and I think that Kyle Kuzma is the farthest thing from that.

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June 21, 2024 9:47 am
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this is all true. But he has to be guarded and this allows Keon to play more
Right now, opponents play off of Keon and HB and focus on just 3 guys.

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June 21, 2024 10:09 am
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We definitely need a guy that can create on his own. I consider Kuzma to be a viable option in that regard, but he would be on the lower end of my list. I’d rather have a guy like Bobby Portis, who creates less but has a nasty streak. Heck, I might prefer Wiggins and hope for a renaissance under Brown. Jerami Grant would be at or near the top of my list. John Collins would merit respect on the corner threes and would add length on D.

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June 21, 2024 11:01 am
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I’d love Wiggins!

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June 21, 2024 12:43 pm
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Wiggins and Moody would be great to get as a package. Send them Huerter and Davion.

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June 21, 2024 2:56 pm
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We cannot pretend Davion has that much value.

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June 21, 2024 4:17 pm

But pretending is fun.

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June 21, 2024 7:45 pm
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Davion is going to salary filler at best in a deal.

Scorliss_In_Sacramento
June 22, 2024 3:10 am
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I think you just described the entire Kings roster excepts for Sabonis and Ellis?

monk is a fun player but he’s not a serious player.

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June 22, 2024 7:36 am

I think that Monk takes winning & losing seriously, but his defense is less than adequate.

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June 21, 2024 9:45 am
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Have to match salary- any combo of HB, Huerter (but less so), Davion, Duarte and Sasha (please be so on the last 2) and the #13 but only if #26 comes back. Future picks? maybe but just one. and that one only.
Washington could get a second lottery pick this year to accelerate their re-build. No other team will offer that to them. and they get away from Kuzma but take back 2 years of Barnes
Kuzma’s value diminishes each year.

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June 21, 2024 4:05 pm
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Huerter, 13 and a future first might get it done. Honestly could be worth it! Moody and Wiggins would both make the Kings better now! It might depend on how GS values Huerter. I like Huerter, but Keon needs minutes to develop and Huerter also deserves those minutes! If we do nothing, I like our guards. Injuries at the position definitely hurt late. Draft day will be fun!

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June 21, 2024 9:41 am
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Lauri IS a dream. Great fit. High cost if even possible.
Kuzma- still youngish, can get hot, shoots too much, thinks he is a star, plays little defense but teams have to guard him unlike HB. This allows Kings to play Keon who teams lay off of and defense improves. Kuzma can go get a bucket- a talent that the Kings lacked last year. Clock going down- give to Hueter, to Keon, to HB and even to Keegan or DS–no !
Kuzma allow Kings to start Keon, to get a bucket late in the clock and makes other teams guard at least 4 players. I am not sure if he can curtail his “I need to shoot it” gene. But does help the team. Washington wants a second lottery pick and may be delighted with any of the prospective lottery picks that fall to 13. and they have #26.
Grant has never played on a team and made them better. And the cost for him is high

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June 21, 2024 1:54 pm
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Both of those are guys you’d have to be really confident in embracing a new role. Or, rather, re-embracing an old role. Both of them should be working with a USG closer to 18% or so. Kuzma, especially, needs to stop trying to “create his own shot” so much.

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June 21, 2024 7:49 am
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I like either John Collins or Kuzma. I prefer Collins. I think he is a better fit. Kuz can score but Collins is a better rebounder, rim protector(which we really need) and shoots the 3 better. We can IMO get Collins without using our #13 draft pick.

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June 21, 2024 8:51 am
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Agree on Collins . Not a big fan but would fit team needs much better and likely to be better playing with Domas .

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June 21, 2024 2:08 pm
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This 100%. Collins> Kuzma all day

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June 21, 2024 2:24 pm
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#13?!?

Collins isn’t the worst fit but he I don’t think he is much more than an above- average NBA player. Regardless of what one thinks of his talent or skills or fit in Sac, Collins is not in Utah’s future plans and he costs $25M/yr for the next 2 years, he should be available for a couple of 2nds. UTA got him from for a 36yr old Rudy Gay and a 2nd round pick. IMO, using the #13 on Collins is close to GM malpractice.

With that said, I’d much rather have Collins over Kuzma.

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June 21, 2024 3:36 pm
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I agree. Much better fit in what he can do to help the Kings and IMO won’t cost us the #13 pick.

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June 20, 2024 9:30 pm
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The Kings have enough G’s that drafting a G never made sense to me & it really wouldn’t make sense now.

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June 21, 2024 4:23 am
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Be interesting to see how the mock drafts change now.

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June 21, 2024 9:33 am
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yep.

The signing changes the draft. and the signing occurred before the draft which really changes it.
This means Kings should look to trade the pick (no need to “replace” Monk which was impossible anyway) or keep it and get size. (and not another guard)

Kings still need to make a move. The all-in moves are unlikely- cannot get a trade partner for that type of player it would be dumb to go all in for KD for example(this is not a serious trade but one used for an example). The next level of Bridges or Markenon is unlikely. So, the Kings are left with a third level trade (like Mavs and PJ+ Gafford). The least “expensive” players in this level are LaVine and Kuzma. Kings need upgrade at the 4 spot. Players like Collins (either one), J. Smith are just not needle movers for me.at least as an initial move.
Getting Monk relieves the pressure and clarifies the draft. Get size- Ware, Filipowski, TDS, Holmes. Grabbing any one of them at #13 is a “reach”. Is it possible to leverage the desire from others for the player that drops to #13- Carter, Holland or Dillingham, make a trade and still get the player with size? This requires multi-scenario pre-planning and quick thinking. For example, Holland (although Holland is the one guy I might want to keep at #13 even though he is a year away from being a year away), the NYK covet him and have 24- and 25.
DaRon Holmes looks enticing. He has a promise from Denver but at #28. Who picks between 13 and 28? Washington, NYK amongst others.
Kings do have expendable assets- HB, Huerter, Duarte, Sasah, Davion and future- way future picks I do think this years #13 is very valuable- Kings should not pick this high for years and next years is gone.
Kings have some options for free agents- get size and 3+D. Derrick Jones and O’Neil are unlikely but N. Marshall? J. Smith (not as big move but as a guess. and a hope)

Salaries are out pacing (pardon the pun coming) the rising salary cap. The deal Siakem signed with Indy is unbelievable. I am not sure why he would not commit to resigning here but that price would have been damaging.

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June 20, 2024 8:28 pm

The King of Kings

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June 20, 2024 8:30 pm

Hey, did you know “Malik” means King in Arabic?”

Yes. Mark Jones repeated this every game he called last season. (I’m hopeful we get Kyle Draper calling all the games instead!)

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June 20, 2024 8:31 pm

Now on to acquiring Brandon Ingram!!

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June 20, 2024 8:48 pm

Don’t think we have the assets. Seems like NO wants players as opposed to picks. Unless they happen to be high on KH and HB.

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June 21, 2024 8:02 am
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It’s all about the market. I mean they’ve put themselves into a piston where they will have to move him or risk losing him for nothing. The knowledge that he expects a superman to resign will lower the asking price.

With that being said, look around and see who else would want Ingram on a super.ax and what they’d be willing to give up.

That’s what we would have to beat in our offer.

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June 21, 2024 9:53 am
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they wanted Sengun from Rockets- Rafeal Stone cackled like and Ainge over that one.
NOP think they are in a position of strength, but they are in a position of weakness- don’t want to pay BI and think he does not fit with that out of shape always injured guy.

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June 21, 2024 1:37 pm

Ingram would be great but expects 40 million a year to play less than 60 games per over 8 seasons . Pelicans have no interest in more of the same .

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June 21, 2024 9:22 am

Jones has a checklist that he’s irrationally compelled to plow through over the course of each broadcast.

“Do you know what NBA stands for?”

“Oh, Mark. Please don’t say it ag…”

“Never Broke Again! SUCKLE AT THE TEAT OF MY GENIUS!”

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June 21, 2024 9:27 am
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For the life of me, I still don’t understand “First name: DeAaron, last name: HIM”.

I do love “This guy is hotter than fish grease!”

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June 21, 2024 9:25 pm
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That and using big words followed by a synonym wherever possible to make an exclamatory point.

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June 22, 2024 1:57 am

Made even better by one of the words not actually being a synonym. I’m grinding my teeth just thinking about it.

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June 20, 2024 8:33 pm

But I was told that we needed to expect him to sign for 25-30 a year and freak out over every social media post available…

Very similar to Holmes situation…as a fan base we overvalue our own guys. Let’s hope this plays out better than how that situation ended. Good news tho…fun player to watch and easy to root for.

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June 20, 2024 8:49 pm
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My guess is there were higher offers available but not substantially higher enough to leave the ideal situation he’s in on this team.

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June 20, 2024 9:11 pm
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Possible for sure. But that was the whole point. What the Kings could offer was pretty in line with what he might get on market. Paying 25 for a guy that has never proven to be a starter is not a move most teams were going to make.

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June 20, 2024 9:40 pm
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I hear you but Holmes is not Monk. Monk brings shooting, play-making, killer instinct, dawg attitude, leadership, a guy that checks in and can instantly catch fire. Does he have some flaws? Sure. But no signing by Monte McNair will come even close to the impact Malik has.

He just turned 26. He hasn’t even hit his prime. People wanted to sign bigger names @ more $ and we’d get much less than a Malik Monk.

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June 20, 2024 10:11 pm
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If you think I’m comparing Monk or Holmes as players you are missing the point. Discussion around their likelihood to return and the message boards reactions were almost exactly the same.

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June 20, 2024 9:42 pm
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Yeah i said this everywhere, no one was throwing a crazy bag at monk

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June 21, 2024 8:03 am
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If he agrees to sign an extension for that amount then IMO we should go after him.

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June 21, 2024 8:08 am
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But Richaun Holmes literally did get traded for a rim protecting big on the Fox/Sabonis timeline, who helped turn around his team’s defense… Just not by the Kings.

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June 20, 2024 8:34 pm

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June 20, 2024 8:37 pm

EVERYBODY GET IN HERE!!!!

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June 20, 2024 8:41 pm

This is huge and provides the Kings with flexibitly going into the draft, free agency and trade market. Malik gets a huge standing ovation at first opportunity!!!

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June 20, 2024 8:44 pm

Lots of people guessed otherwise. I’m sure they’re all glad they were wrong.

As for me, I’m incredibly relieved.

Without Monk, the Kings front office would have had to work their asses off just so that the team wouldn’t be significantly worse than the last two years.

Now hopefully with a little bit of juggling, the Kings can take another step up.

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June 21, 2024 5:50 am
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You nailed it. Resigning Monk means the Kings can spend this offseason building a better team, rather than desperately trying to cover their losses.

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June 20, 2024 8:47 pm

The Kings just acquired a star in free agency.

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June 20, 2024 8:48 pm

LET’S GO! HAPPY MALIK MONK DAY!

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June 20, 2024 8:54 pm

Wow!! That’s legitimately great news! He almost certainly would have gotten a bigger offer in free agency so this is huge. Now get a starting forward!

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June 20, 2024 9:55 pm

If so he would of tested longer

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June 20, 2024 10:34 pm
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I think the truth is that none of us knows.

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June 21, 2024 8:55 am
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He signed the best deal he was offered . Bet on that and great for the Kings .

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June 22, 2024 1:50 am
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It doesn’t seem at all like how you described it.

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June 20, 2024 9:00 pm

Re-signing Monk will make the Kings more desirable for free agents to come here. This Monk signing is huge. Kuzma anyone?

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June 20, 2024 9:17 pm
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Well said. It’s always a positive sign for a franchise when a player is willing to sign for less than his market value just to play there.

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June 20, 2024 9:20 pm
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The esrly period for incumbent teams is a huge component. Monk waits & maybe he gets a few dollars more or maybe he gets Bonzi’d. He chose the security of the bird in the hand.

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June 21, 2024 8:57 am
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History tells us that he and his agent knew what offers would be there and he took the best one .

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June 21, 2024 9:06 am
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My perspective is that Monk, not being the lead domino, was going to have to wait and see how the other dominos fell. Paul George, Maxey, Siakam (now signed), OG, DeRozan, Harden. These are the guys that would ultimately shape the free agent marking and spending this summer. Throw in guys like KCP and Klay Thompson and Tyus Jones and Tobias Harris and Nic Claxton, and suddenly the waters get a little murky. Remember, the new rule is that players can only talk with their current team until 7/1, so there is no real (legal) way of knowing what the shopping teams (or a lot of these premiere players) are going to do.

So it becomes a risk / reward thing for players when they are offered a deal by their incumbent teams. Monk had to weigh the upside (another $22m total?) vs. the downside (no chairs when the music stops and signing a 2/$40m or some such deal).

My arse-pulled guess is that Monk weighed the risk vs. the reward, sprinkled in that he likes his current coach, teammates and geography and determined to take $78m of what already works for him.

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June 21, 2024 9:07 am
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Not really, he was only negotiating with one team. His agent may have a notion, but he hasn’t been talking with any of them.

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June 21, 2024 2:31 pm
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His agent may have a notion, but he hasn’t been talking with any of them.

His agent knew what was going to be offered by other teams, at least any initial offers. Otherwise, he would be the only agent in the NBA who doesn’t know what teams are willing to offer his prize FA client.

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June 21, 2024 3:54 pm
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That doesn’t sound right at all.

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June 21, 2024 8:01 am
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Or John Collins.

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June 21, 2024 8:02 am
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Anyone BUT Kuzma. No thank you.

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June 20, 2024 9:07 pm

I hope Malik can severely outplay this contract like he did his last.

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June 20, 2024 9:16 pm

I expect the Beam for this!

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June 20, 2024 9:18 pm
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Malik the Beam!

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June 20, 2024 9:20 pm

Agreeing to terms with Monk is a FO
statement by Monte and his staff that the Kings are a serious organization with committed ownership to moving the franchise forward unlike few other signings in the past.

For Monte, Monk’s early commitment to the organization is a coup for the Kings who are too often portrayed as a team stumbling from one decisive issue to the next.

For the primary owner(s) it also sends a message, particularly from Vivek, that they are willing to spend on the NBA team while also taking on the costs and guaranteed contracts of an MLB team, perhaps for only a season or so, but a risk nonetheless to continuing to build the Kings into a contender.

Smartly done. I am waiting with anticipation to what the Kings and Monte do next.

Monk should start. Good on him. Good for the fans and season ticket holders who get to watch Monk do Malick for a good number of years to come.

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June 20, 2024 9:36 pm
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Well said JP

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June 20, 2024 10:02 pm
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All great stuff except monk should not start

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June 20, 2024 10:04 pm
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With you. Ellis should still be the one as a defensive specialist. Monk’s superpower is a spark off the bench in a Ginobili role.

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June 20, 2024 10:41 pm
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Yeah fox/keon and davion/monk (assuming huerter traded) pairs much better than putting fox/monk and davion/keon

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June 21, 2024 12:57 am
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Also the Keon/Monk backcourt still works well when Monk checks in for fox in those early parts of the games. He is one of if not the best 6th man in the league as is. He’s this generations bjax in my opinion

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June 21, 2024 9:26 am
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If the other starters were more stout as a group, you could start Monk. As things stand, Ellis is the right fit.

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June 21, 2024 9:32 am
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Yep. Just go full Manu with Monk. Bring him in early and often, and have him close when you need the offense (Ellis when you need the D).

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June 20, 2024 10:41 pm
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I generally agree but here’s my question. What if Devin Carter falls to 13?

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June 21, 2024 6:49 am
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I dom’t think we need to worry about that. IMO Monty will use #13 as a trade chip. Example: Huerter, Lyles, Duarte, #13 and 2 seconds for Keldon Johnson and Zach Collins.

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June 21, 2024 10:00 am
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my goodness, no

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June 21, 2024 10:11 am
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Why? Keldon Johnson started for the Spurs 4 years.He is a stud on offense. Watched highlights he can really drive to the rim. Not afraid of anything. Would be a major bench player for the Kings.
Collins, known as a poor man’s Sabonis would backup Sabonis at the 5. Young very aggressive won’t back down. With Jalen Smith next to hin at PF you have 2 guys off the bench that can replace starters at center and PF and fit right in.

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June 21, 2024 2:39 pm
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Collins, known as a poor man’s Sabonis

They are nothing alike, in any way (other than they are both bigs). I’m not sure what you meant by that so I assume I’m missing something.

I don’t dislike Johnson but he is also a pretty horrible fit in Sac and doesn’t offer anything the Kings need besides his aggression going to the rim.

I love Jalen Smith as a backup for Domas or even playing next to him if the team needs to go big. He and Fontecchio are the two players I hope the Kings bring in via FA should they be able to move off of Huerter and Barnes.

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June 21, 2024 3:42 pm
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When I proposed that trade above it was before Monk decided to stay. When comparing Monk with Johnson I was looking for a replacemnt for Malik. I now can turn my attention else wherer. At the time IMO that was a pretty good trade.

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June 21, 2024 5:10 pm
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Malik staying really makes the path to improving this roster much easier than if we also needed to replace his play-making from the bench. Lets see where MM goes from here.

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June 21, 2024 6:36 pm
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I don’t mind Zach Collins only out of your hypothetical trade. So you gotta go back to the lab and rework who we trade or what picks we trade. You gave it a try though.

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June 21, 2024 8:39 am
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If there is a team that values Carter at 13, trade the pick for wing / stretch 4 help. Or draft Carter if you have deals in your pocket that send Huerter and Mitchell out for wind / stretch 4 help. If neither of those things occur, pass on Carter and draft da Silva or someone that can crack the core rotation this year. Clock is ticking.

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June 21, 2024 9:31 am
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I saw a mock that had us taking Tyler Smith. An interesting prospect to be sure, but if there’s going to be a reach, I’d go with Holmes, whose defense is light years better than Smith.

I’m going to keep pushing Holmes for the near future, I simply must.

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June 21, 2024 9:40 am
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With you. Smith would be a great pick for Stockton. And I like Smith.

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June 21, 2024 10:06 am
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I like Holmes. potentially fits all the needs. But can #13 be leverage in such a way to get a player and to get Holmes later in the draft ( before the promise to Denver at #28.???

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June 21, 2024 5:15 pm
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I like Holmes too but I do feel like I’m talking myself into the best fit versus the best player available (not that I have any clue as to who the BPA would be anyway).

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June 21, 2024 5:42 pm
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Tyler Smith and Holmes are near 50/50 for me. It would be a luxury if Monte has a choice of either. I will point out, however, that Tyler’s resume is against grown men in the G-League while Holmes was a man amongst boys at Dayton.

Personally, I still lean towards Holmes.

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June 21, 2024 10:04 am
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Carter probably will not drop to #13 but Dillingham or Holland might. Somebody or somebodies will drop. Fact. And another team will covet that guy- let’s say it is Carter- then pre-plan for that, trade get a very good player-starter- and or another pick this year. NYK have 24/25, do they covet Carter or anyone else who drops. ?

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June 21, 2024 9:59 am
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yes

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Whether or not Monk starts is a non-issue solved with Brown’s handling of substitutions such that two of Fox, Monk, and Sabonis is always on the floor.

If Monk starting is a condition of his resigning with the Kings, he’s going to start.

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June 20, 2024 10:39 pm
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Good post! I appreciate Vivek forking out the dough for this. I don’t think there’s much risk involved in his decision, though. He’s going to be able to raise ticket prices while selling out 41 nights a year. Barring injuries [knocks on wood], the next four years look to be competitive for this team. How competitive depends on what MM does next.

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June 20, 2024 11:02 pm
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I understand the optimism and although I share some of it, allow me to give a slightly different take.

This deal was an absolute must (and baseline) to maintain the slim path to improvement. Kudo’s to Monte for pulling it off, but hard to see it as a statement or coup. It shows competence, which is an improvement against former regimes, but I grade the team and FO against their current opponents, not against it’s own past.

In that regard, we kept a core player of a team that missed the play-offs, while on of our conference foes just got Caruso and already took a step forward, while this move allowed us to stand pat.

I won’t even go into the idea that we should be happy that our ownership is willing to do the minimum of what should be expected from ownership. that’s a big meh for me.

And as much as I like Monk (he’s a very likeable person), his playmaking, energy and ability to create his own shot, he is quite far from perfect. His TS% is not great, makes regular boneheaded plays, and is one of our worse perimeter defenders. In other words, a mixed bag. And given the fact that he will resign, the rest of the league probably sees his worth as as such.

The main value of this resigning stems from the fact that the cap situation was such that if we would lose Monk, we wouldn’t have the financial room to easily replace him. Although still a significant signing, it is not ideal if this financial situation is one of the main drivers for making this deal a must for the FO.

Ultimately, for me, this signing is a good step to maintain our status as a fringe play-off, play-in team. And that is not something I can celebrate.

Now, if Monte can add pieces to bring us an extra level up in relation to the rest of the WC, it will be great. That remains to be seen, but this is at least a step that allows for that possibility.

Hope springs eternal. Go Kings!

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June 20, 2024 11:42 pm
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I’m with you on this- especially holding the Kings to a level of championship contention, not being ok with the Kings simply not being shitty.

The owner paying for a player?, the value of the player, isn’t anything to write home about.

While I’m happy this deal was done there is much more that needs to occur to have a serious title contender, which is what I want.

Enough of the sac fan base being ok with being ok rather than not settling for less then being run like a championship contender.

Winning franchises and markets expect greatness from their organization, so should we. Or at least the effort to be great.

This is a step. Last year they took none. Maybe even a step back. This summer should tell all.

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June 21, 2024 12:20 am
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How come RikSmits sucks now… The volumes of negative space is like ketoacidosis

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June 21, 2024 12:43 am
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Instead of insulting me, how about coming up with arguments to dispute my post?

Few things are more contradictory than posts whining about negativity.

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June 21, 2024 1:14 pm
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Yes. This is how it’s always been, when you point out what is wrong- with logic and reason those who can’t handle it get upset over negativity. But it’s not negativity, it’s accurate discussion.

what is the point of a discussion forum where people only want or allow positive statements?

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June 21, 2024 2:44 pm
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Sorry about that I was being facetious but I forgot that’s not allowed here. I’ll stop commenting.

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June 21, 2024 2:39 am
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Oh really? I got your back Rik, hold my Malik Monk jersey.

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June 21, 2024 6:42 am
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Resigning MM is huge and vital to this team especially given the CAP.
But let’s not forget, this is currently still the same team from last season. Which is a mediocre team with potential. Negativity turns into positivity once we land a starting 4 and some actual rotational pieces.

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June 21, 2024 9:02 am
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Rick made solid and accurate points . You didn’t .

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June 21, 2024 1:11 pm
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Are you being sarcastic? Otherwise, you seem to have a hard time handling logic and truth.

It’s ok for people to point out what’s not good enough with the Kings.

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June 21, 2024 6:39 am
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Well put RS 👌

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June 21, 2024 7:51 am
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Very well stated.

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June 21, 2024 9:34 am
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“Nice job, Monte!”

Way to not fuck it up, Monte!

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

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June 21, 2024 10:07 am
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yep.

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June 21, 2024 3:03 pm
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I agree with the sentiment of your post, but…

Ultimately, for me, this signing is a good step to maintain our status as a fringe play-off, play-in team. And that is not something I can celebrate.

The way that MM had to go about even retaining a key player on this roster was adept player management. He said the right things to the press about Monk, he re-signed Brown in a timely manner, and he offered Monk the “max” offer the team was capable of. If you really think Monk is just another “mixed-bag” player and doesn’t make an significant impact, then we differ greatly on what we think of the importance of table setters. Due to his elite playmaking Monk was in the 99th percentile in Ast%, and he was in the 95th percentile in Ast/Usage. Domas has to work significantly harder to get good shots at the rim without someone like Monk serving up dimes.

While I understand your point about the team itself not getting better, it was a bit of a feat that MM was able to prevent the Kings from getting worse given the contractual limitations he was dealing with in regards to Monk.

Competency coming from Sac’s FO is something I will always celebrate, regardless of my expectations of the team’s success.

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June 21, 2024 9:35 am
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I wonder what conversations were had with Malik about starting and this contract. We all know “roles” are massively important to Coach Brown and him and Malik conflicted on him starting a bit last year (in a good way IMO). Either way I hope Malik gets to start next to Fox at least every now and then just cause I love the dude and I cannot resist the SMF->Kentucky Connection.

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June 21, 2024 12:25 pm

They most definitely had those discussions and I think one likely result is Monk’s agent was told there would
be an open competition for the starting job.

Monk is one of the most creative passers on the team, he is relentless going to the rim and is first in the NBA passing off the ball while driving to the basket. Keon has positive starter qualities too. He is a 41% three point shooter, better defense than Monk, a little too reticent to shoot and defers to others a bit too much which is more a factor, in my mind,
of his newness to the starting lineup. He also has some shit bird in him, credit to Mr. Reynolds. The Kings lack that as others have noted in the comments and during game threads.

There will be plenty of minutes for all the guards and hopefully none of those come
from injuries, but we all also know that there will be injuries. Monk and Fox will play minutes together and Keon will slide
to the 3 at times in a small ball game.

In the end, commenters that believe the
better lineup is with Keon starting and Monk being the 6th man make a valid point. The team may be better with Monk in a Ginobbli role. Flexibilty. Monk has said he wants to start but will do what is best for the team. Good job locking up a player with that attitude. It’s a good problem to have.

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June 21, 2024 4:52 pm
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Monk has had a starter role in Charlotte, it didn’t work out.

First in LA and now is Sacramento, Monk’s game has excelled as the 6th Man for which he was runner up for the award this year. This confirms his usage is best aligned as 6th man.

I don’t believe he needs to be a starter anymore than Jamal Crawford or Terrence Ross were in their heydey.

I also believe that any of the teams that offered competitive contracts (Orlando, Philly) felt the same. If a Detroit or Washington offered more, their lack of playoff aspirations were of no interest, even at an elevated price.

Of course, we just don’t know. But, it’s fun to toss out our own individual theories now and again.

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June 21, 2024 6:45 pm

Didn’t he start for the Fakers? I could be wrong. They are not on my time so I don’t know what goes on over there until we kick their asses.

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June 21, 2024 9:25 pm

Monk only started one game with Charlotte….

Jamal Crawford was labelled a starter just like Lou Williams but both of them struggled with efficiency coming back from acl injuries .

monk started 30 plus games for LA shot 47 percent overall and 42 percent from 3 . 17 points per game 4 rebounds and 3 assist a game . his usage again ?

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June 20, 2024 9:27 pm

Woohoo!

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June 20, 2024 9:28 pm
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June 20, 2024 9:28 pm

Very fortunate for us. Let’s capitalize on our good fortune and push some chips in Monte!

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June 20, 2024 9:33 pm

Rik,

I feel certain you went to bed early tonight and made Malik’s signing a fait accompli.

You are the man!

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June 20, 2024 9:35 pm
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This was terrific news, wasn’t it? Monk is such a great fit for this fan base and franchise.

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June 20, 2024 9:39 pm
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Enormously impactful for the franchise. Especially so if Monte can bring in some
length, defense and shooting at the 4, and some legit 2nd team scoring and D.

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June 20, 2024 9:47 pm
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Hah! I did indeed.

But all credit to Monte and his assistant GM’s De’Aaron and Recee.

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June 20, 2024 10:21 pm
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Double Espresso this morning Rik. Good work.

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June 20, 2024 9:37 pm

Woohoo! And announced before the draft!

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June 20, 2024 10:05 pm
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The focuses the draft and free agency with days to spare. That can’t be stressed enough. No need for off guards at #13, or anywhere for that matter.

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June 20, 2024 10:40 pm
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Exactly

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June 21, 2024 6:43 am
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#13: Ware or Holmes!

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June 20, 2024 9:39 pm

I’m no less than shocked. I 100% underestimated what Monk was after. This is great news for the team at least having a chance to improve this offseason.

And it takes LaVine off the table.

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June 20, 2024 9:49 pm
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This once again shows that if there are rumors, a deal is unlikely. With Monte most deals come all of a sudden.

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June 20, 2024 10:15 pm
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I’m calling it now…LaVine for Ingram, because neither team is going to get what they want.

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June 21, 2024 10:11 am
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it moves LaVine way off the table unless the Bulls give the Kings a king’s ransom to take him (pun intended). Like a future first.
and it does not change the need for size at the 4 spot.

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June 20, 2024 9:44 pm

LV Summer League here I come.

You fellas enjoy the California Classic in Sacto. A standing ovation if Malik shows for one of the games.

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June 20, 2024 10:44 pm
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I believe it’s at Chase this year. I’m looking forward to its return here, though!

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June 20, 2024 11:16 pm
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I believe it is at both Golden 1 and Chase this year. “A” and “B” games in different arenas.

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Interesting, I heard them talking about the California Classic at Chase on KNBR recently and assumed it was still happening at only one arena. Thanks for the correction!

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Built,

I heard an add for tickets for the Golden 1 Center games July 6-9 start at about $46 for all the games played that day. Might be a nice way to slake the Basketball shakes. The LVSL games are just so cool in the way former
and current players are casually stopping and talking to fans and for the most part are very accessible. It’s in the Summer Leagues culture.

What I really enjoy is sitting with fans from other teams and listening to them and getting their read and takes on other teams players, their team’s strengths and weaknesses. It truly is a great mix of fans and everybody seems to have a relaxed opinion. I have met people from
all over the country who are really funny, others are gamblers, others are junkies like me, others are really long range thinkers and almost everyone there eats the chicken finger and French Fries too many times over the few days they are there. It’s a blast. I highly recommend it.

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June 20, 2024 10:57 pm
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I’m booked for Opening weekend at Vegas Summer League as well.

Coming up fast!

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June 20, 2024 10:00 pm

Excellent news that will resinate beyond Monk’s time as a Kings. This hints and a willingness of ownership to spend AND this should put the LaVine rumors to bed.

The best part, this has zero impact on the rest of the Kings free agency. They still have their full MLE and Bi-annual exception. Let’s get it done Monte!

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June 21, 2024 5:54 am
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My vote has always been to throw the full MLE at Jalen Smith. Just seems like the perfect fit at the 4 and we don’t need to give up any assets to bring him in.

Make him a serious offer upfront, tell him you expect him to compete for the starting job, give him an option after Year 3 once his bird rights are acquired, and hope he picks us over his other suitors. I’d bet he’d at least be intrigued.

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That seems like an overpay for a guy ended up being the 4th/5th big, not getting playoff minutes ahead of Isaiah Jackson.

I could see ~8m or so, basically what Lyles earns.

J. Smith would be an upgrade over Javale, and probably Len and Sasha, but the full MLE? Idk about that

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He’s only scheduled to make $5.4m on his player option. Offer him $6.5, then make it a sign and trade, sending the Pacers Sasha (or better yet send back Duarte).

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I think the Pacers let him walk for nothing and clear cap space now that they have Pascal locked up long term.

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