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Luke Walton says Marvin Bagley is “not close to being ready to play”

Bagley reportedly is still wearing a splint on his injured hand.

Marvin Bagley rejoined the Sacramento Kings in Phoenix yesterday, but it doesn't sound like he'll join the team on the floor anytime soon. In his pregame media availability, Luke Walton explained that Bagley is back with the team but "not close to being ready to play". Walton also said that Bagley is still wearing a splint on his injured hand.

With Bagley still wearing a splint and not yet able to fully practice, it seems questionable whether Bagley will play again this season. The Kings have 16 games remaining, with their last game scheduled for one month from today.

Beyond the challenge of being cleared for full contact, Bagley would have little time to practice with the team, and would still need to get his conditioning back.

If Bagley doesn't play again this season, he will have appeared in just 112 of 236 possible games for the Kings, or 47.5%.

The Kings have yet to provide an official update on Bagley's status other than what Walton shared. The last update was four weeks ago, and set a timetable of four weeks before the next update.

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BeTheBall
April 16, 2021 8:27 am

It’s been that way since training camp his rookie year.

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April 16, 2021 9:49 am
Reply to  BeTheBall

Yep, pretty much unfortunately…

Hobby916
April 16, 2021 8:40 am

Hopefully during his time being injured he has been working on strength and conditioning. He can do many things to improve lower body strength, core, etc. that don’t involve his left hand. He should also be working to improve his right hand as much as possible.

My assumption is that he is just going through the lotions amd not trying to get better at basketball, as history has shown us since he was drafted. Time to cut bait and move on. Let him be someone else’s problem

aplumley
April 16, 2021 9:04 am
Reply to  Hobby916

Going through “the lotions”

andy_sims
April 16, 2021 9:06 am
Reply to  Hobby916

My assumption is that he is just going through the lotions (sic) amd (sic) not trying to get better at basketball, as history has shown us since he was drafted.

Never has the old saw about what happens when you assume been more on the nose.

TerzoM
April 16, 2021 10:26 am
Reply to  Hobby916

It’s fine. Bags is applying reinforced-glass-lotioncomment image

Carl
April 16, 2021 11:07 am
Reply to  TerzoM

Third movie was incredibly disappointing.

TerzoM
April 16, 2021 11:22 am
Reply to  Carl

Haven’t watch it yet. Maybe during Kangz broadcast 😁

Carl
April 16, 2021 12:12 pm
Reply to  TerzoM

It’s about the same as losing your 10th game in a row.

RikSmits
April 16, 2021 11:24 am
Reply to  Carl

Wait? There’s a second one?

Carl
April 16, 2021 12:14 pm
Reply to  RikSmits

Technically, if you’ve seen the trailer for Glass, I didn’t spoil the existence of the second movie!

PissedOffGorilla
April 16, 2021 3:07 pm
Reply to  Hobby916

Nah, like Vlade said, we just need a few more years to see he was the best player of the draft.

Ccc
Ccc
April 16, 2021 8:40 am

has played his last game as a king maybe?

Carl
April 16, 2021 8:46 am

Well I’m certainly glad he decided to grace the team with his presence.

andy_sims
April 16, 2021 9:09 am
Reply to  Carl

I was wondering if you could offer a single concrete reason as to why he should have been with the team while he was doing the harder part of rehab on his hand.

And please don’t start up with team unity/camaraderie crap, since as has been said here over and over, he’s a lockerroom cancer because he won’t publicly denounce his own father.

Ccc
Ccc
April 16, 2021 9:19 am
Reply to  andy_sims

Would think you could rehab a hand and still be with your teammates. But I’m sure they all know the season is over now anyway.

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April 16, 2021 9:39 am
Reply to  andy_sims

Metu was with the team during the entire time he was out, including road trips. I would see him in the huddle at timeouts, learning and paying attention. This would also mean, I assume, that he was at practice sessions and walkthroughs before games. Those kinds of actions speak volumes.

andy_sims
April 16, 2021 11:01 am
Reply to  Greg

Is there some reason he couldn’t have done that at the team facilities in Sacramento? Is there some information that suggests that he didn’t watch film while he was away?

Carl
April 16, 2021 11:56 am
Reply to  Greg

He has Coach Bagley tho

Adamsite
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April 16, 2021 12:54 pm
Reply to  andy_sims

He wasn’t in Sacramento, he was in Arizona.

RikSmits
April 16, 2021 10:14 am
Reply to  andy_sims

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Otis
April 16, 2021 10:27 am
Reply to  andy_sims

But the camaraderie has been so good since he’s been gone, Andy! Everything’s fixed!

andy_sims
April 16, 2021 11:02 am
Reply to  Otis

Can’t argue with that, they’ve been a well-oiled machine in his absence.

andy_sims
April 16, 2021 11:04 am
Reply to  andy_sims

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RORDOG
April 16, 2021 10:48 am
Reply to  andy_sims

it fits a pattern that he just doesn’t want to be a part of this team.

andy_sims
April 16, 2021 11:05 am
Reply to  RORDOG

I’m actually kind of curious if you believe that Marvin was asked by his employer to remain with the team during his rehab, and he defied the request. Suppositions like this are very definitely part of a pattern.

RORDOG
April 16, 2021 11:12 am
Reply to  andy_sims

I think he doesn’t want to play for the Kings. I also think he prefers to not interact with everyone if he doesn’t have to. I’m not going to answer your questions and go through that whole andy rigamarole. If you disagree great! I don’t care. But you’re not going to do your typical angry prosecutor shtick on this one with me.

Carl
April 16, 2021 11:27 am
Reply to  RORDOG
Sorry, Bratz.  Without irrefutable, documented proof, you are not allowed to have an opinion.

I agree with you. I don’t think Bagley wants to be around, and I’ll go so far as saying I think he requested a trade.

andy_sims
April 17, 2021 1:02 pm
Reply to  RORDOG

Funny how certain types of people get labeled as angry when they ask questions. Admittedly, that’s an easier thing to do than address the topic.

Carl
April 16, 2021 11:10 am
Reply to  andy_sims

I was wondering if you could offer a single concrete reason as to why he shouldn’t have been with the team while he was doing the harder part of rehab on his hand.

Otis
April 16, 2021 11:13 am
Reply to  Carl

Having watched this franchise for years, I feel pretty secure that someone in the Kings org would have gotten this info to the local media (that Bagley was staying home in contrast to the team’s wishes).

Carl
April 16, 2021 11:22 am
Reply to  Otis

Not forcing the issue also doesn’t mean the team was happy about it.

Otis
April 16, 2021 11:34 am
Reply to  Carl

Happy about what? I don’t want to go full Andy here, but it feels like we’ve made most of this story out of wholecloth.

I mean, this is Jason Anderson in the Bee, just over two weeks ago:

The organization has a plan in place for Bagley’s return and remains in constant communication as he recovers from the injury, a team source told The Sacramento Bee. Bagley is progressing well toward a full recovery and will rejoin the team at the appropriate time, the source said. An update on his status will be provided in two to three weeks.

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Roaddog
April 16, 2021 11:41 am
Reply to  Otis

What would you leak to the press if you had an asset you didn’t want to further devalue but can’t actually control? I would leak something like the above quote.

Otis
April 16, 2021 11:45 am
Reply to  Roaddog

I’m pretty sure the team learned at the trade deadline that Bagley doesn’t have much value on the market. At least, not enough value that it made sense to deal him (versus rehab him and get him back on the floor).

I guess I don’t see how Bagley can be “further devalued” at this point.

Dunno, you could be right – but this feels a bit like the Bagley-dislike here run amok.

Roaddog
April 16, 2021 3:11 pm
Reply to  Otis

you are definitely right about his value at the trade deadline. I was just looking at it from the perspective of his off the court value. No arguing his on court value or ability to stay on the court didn’t merit enough in trade. But if he was additionally a malcontent or difficult to coach or not doing things the team asked, those sort of things could also make him harder to trade imo. Not that I can prove the team asked him to be with them before now or anything, it’s just that statement wreaks of PR CYA to me.

Carl
April 16, 2021 11:58 am
Reply to  Otis

Fair enough. I don’t see why he needed to be away from the team, and not even in Sacramento for a month for a broken bone, and I don’t know why they would agree to it. It seems very suspect for a guy who can’t even answer a question about his future with the team. But that doesn’t necessarily mean it didn’t happen that way.

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Otis
April 16, 2021 12:04 pm
Reply to  Carl

I guess I just don’t get the angst in general – I may be misremembering, but I don’t ever recall caring much whether a player was traveling with the team when they are out with an injury.

Carl
April 16, 2021 12:08 pm
Reply to  Otis

It’s because it’s Bagley. His dad has been harassing the team for years, and demanded Marvin be traded, and Marvin wouldn’t address it. Marvin was asked about seeing his future with the team and he dodged the question. The team tried to trade him at the deadline, and now he’s disappeared for a month with an injury, for what might be no good reason, which looks like more evidence of a guy who doesn’t want to be here. That may be all wrong, but Marvin certainly isn’t refuting any of it.

Otis
April 16, 2021 1:44 pm
Reply to  Carl

I don’t fault Marvin for his dad any more than I fault Lonzo or LaMelo for their dad – by all accounts, Marvin has worked hard this year and has shown some improvement on the court (prior to the injury of course).

Now, I do believe he’d be happy to move on at this point, but that just makes him a smart human being.

And I’m not sure he needs to offer an answer to a question that hasn’t actually been asked of him.

andy_sims
April 17, 2021 1:03 pm
Reply to  Otis

Careful! you’re going to collect a lot of red thumbs saying things opposed to he accepted narrative.

BeTheBall
April 16, 2021 1:40 pm
Reply to  Carl

I’m admittedly chuckling at the idea of there being a “harder part” of rehab on his hand.

Amonk81
April 16, 2021 11:20 am
Reply to  andy_sims

Ridiculous. Most injured players are with the team for some or all rehab. Embid. Davis. LeBron. The list goes on and on.

Marvin not being Thera isn’t a good thing.

andy_sims
April 17, 2021 1:06 pm
Reply to  Amonk81

Being a volcanic island would definitely lower his market value.

aplumley
April 16, 2021 9:03 am

I’m pretty sure he’s two years away from being two years away.

Hobby916
April 16, 2021 9:24 am
Reply to  aplumley

Caboclo’d!!!

TheGrantNapear
April 16, 2021 11:01 am
Reply to  Hobby916

Speaking of which, where’s that basketballrehab commenter. I think he went by freecaboclo.

Marty
April 16, 2021 9:28 am

Luke Walton explained that Bagley is back with the team but “not close to being ready to play”.

That’s nice but I wish he had addressed the injury.

andy_sims
April 16, 2021 9:36 am
Reply to  Marty

Do you really want Luke Farking Walton to delve into medical diagnoses? The only injury he’s had in his life was a bad case of towel-wave elbow.

Marty
April 16, 2021 9:55 am
Reply to  andy_sims

Do you really want Luke Farking Walton to delve into medical diagnoses?

look up

(((((whoosh))))

Adamsite
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April 16, 2021 9:45 am
Reply to  Marty

What is interesting about that, is if he felt he needed to be away from the team to “recover” but now return to the while being “not close to being ready to play,” then what has changed? Did he cross some magical threshold of recovery that allows him to be with the team?

I’ll say this, the guy was obviously on the trade block at the deadline, which was after his injury. Could it be the Kings just told him to stay home until he could be moved (which didn’t happen) or did he chose to remove himself from the Kings for feeling unwanted? Maybe he is only back with the team now to avoid anymore smoke and not damage his reputation in the league? I’m thinking his agent is at play in the move to return to team…all my speculation.

Marty
April 16, 2021 9:57 am
Reply to  Adamsite

Seems like keeping him home during a pandemic is kind of smart.

Carl
April 16, 2021 11:29 am
Reply to  Marty

They didn’t do that with Metu, and I believe LeBron is still with the Lakers. I won’t argue it’s not smart, but I would guess that teams aren’t in general keeping injured players home.

TerzoM
April 16, 2021 10:18 am
Reply to  Adamsite

Speculative common sense. I like.

AmateurNerd
April 16, 2021 11:03 am
Reply to  Adamsite

The most simple explanation is usually correct, and IMHO, it’s that he was feeling “checked out” after almost getting traded, and so he went home.

andy_sims
April 16, 2021 11:13 am
Reply to  AmateurNerd

Haha, what a load of shit. Are you under the impression that professional athletes can unilaterally decide to wander away from team activities whenever they please? I would imagine standard contracts contain clauses dealing with such eventualities, and the consequences would range all the way up to the team being able to void the contract for being absent without permission.

Also, if you have any insight as to why Barnes, Hield, and Holmes haven’t “checked out” after being shopped around before the deadline, that might help me understand your theory. I’m also of a mind to think that the deal McNair offered to Detroit for Bey doesn’t rise to the level of “almost getting traded.” I’d not gotten the impression that there had been serious consideration or additional negotiation from the Pistons.

Carl
April 16, 2021 11:30 am
Reply to  andy_sims

From the perspective of the player, is there a difference between “almost being traded” and the team trying to trade you?

Marty
April 16, 2021 11:45 am
Reply to  andy_sims

if you have any insight as to why Barnes, Hield, and Holmes haven’t “checked out” after being shopped around 

Maybe they have something Marvin doesn’t.

Otis
April 16, 2021 11:48 am
Reply to  Marty

To be fair, Marvin Bagley is with the team right now, and Richaun Holmes is not.

Carl
April 16, 2021 11:55 am
Reply to  Otis

That’s a fair point though a hamstring injury is not the same as a broken hand (wrist?) in terms of travel.

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Otis
April 16, 2021 12:00 pm
Reply to  Carl

If Richaun’s expected to only miss a few games, we’re talking about a mild strain, most likely. And the rest is precautionary – the rehab shouldn’t be difficult to do on the road.

Regardless, I just don’t think we have enough info to really know what’s going on here.

Carl
April 16, 2021 12:05 pm
Reply to  Otis

Agree that we don’t have enough info. But it’s also reasonable to believe the medical staff doesn’t want Holmes walking around on a gimpy hamstring a bunch right now, even if it’s mild.

It may also be that the team has taken the position that injured players don’t travel due to Covid, except that they didn’t do that with Metu.

Last edited 1 month ago by Carl
Adamsite
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April 16, 2021 12:51 pm
Reply to  andy_sims

Are you under the impression that professional athletes can unilaterally decide to wander away from team activities whenever they please?

James Harden did exactly that with Houston.

Kosta
April 16, 2021 1:31 pm
Reply to  Adamsite

…I guess the conclusion we’ve all come to is that Bagley was away from the team watching a strip show with Harden.

AmateurNerd
April 16, 2021 1:35 pm
Reply to  andy_sims

Pretty sure he would ask permission from the team first (duh), and it would be granted. I figure the Kings wouldn’t care (b/c he’s basically a sunk cost at this point and the distracting Ghost of Luka follows him everywhere in G1C) and Marvin would save some face. You’re free to disagree with this hot-hot take, of course, and I suppose you’re free to drop as many obscenities as you wish, as well.

andy_sims
April 17, 2021 1:10 pm
Reply to  AmateurNerd

God bless you, fuckface, I appreciate your permission.

AmateurNerd
April 16, 2021 9:46 am

To be fair, has he ever been ready to play an NBA game, really? NBA-ready typically involves dribbling with both hands and understanding the basics of man-to-man defense.

HongKongKingsFan
April 16, 2021 9:58 am

No Bagley makes the team and all teammates happier, isn’t it ?

(Then why he come back, as he just cannot play and is still injured)

andy_sims
April 17, 2021 1:09 pm

They have seemed absolutely ecstatic during this nine-game losing streak.

Otis
April 16, 2021 10:29 am

Considering the team has a better record with Bagley in the lineup this season, hopefully he can get back soon to make that run at the play-in game!

RobHessing
April 16, 2021 11:06 am

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kings4ever
April 16, 2021 12:05 pm

In related news, Walton is “not close to being ready to coach.”

When Whiteside fouled out, he put in HB instead of Metu to check Ayton and immediately got punished for it. I can guarantee the GM and owner are watching this and thinking WTF. Fluke is thinking I moved HB down one spot maybe he won’t notice if I move him down one more.

Overall this was a very competitive well played game on the second of a back-to-back, minus Holmes minus Jones. We showed the talent disparity between us and the #2 seed is not the wide chasm you may think. If we had their coach, we’d be 5-10 games over .500.

Even Buddy, the typical party crasher whenever we try to do anything, played a good game after his 0-4 1st quarter, he did pretty good things, the hot streak was a rare sight to see.

At 8-15 FGs I am curious how games this makes it Buddy has made half his shots?

It is 12 in 55 games or about 25%. 3 out of 4 games, our alleged #2 scorer is mostly ineffecient. Sad! In 2018-19, Buddy made half his shots in 39 games, almost 50%.
It is important Buddy be kept off the ball in the 4th quarter, to dissuade his hero ball inclinations and this happened, so to the extent we were able to try to steal the win, this helped.

I perused the comments and noted not one nod or shout out to the outstanding game by Delon Wright. This guy is a keeper and his new hairstyle is looking pretty fresh!

Ty was only credited with two steals after 6 steals in the previous game, but I feel like he should have got credit for at least 3 steals, and he should play more than 23 minutes vs 25 minute from Moe Sparkless! Granted Harkless, did a pretty good job trying to make it hard on Booker to get his points.

Delon Wright was also a great spark plug, a real steal for us! I am impressed with this guy, he knows how to play. And it goes to show the number of unadulterated bums that have passed through SAC as back-up guards that this guy stands head and shoulders above names you would rather forget.

Take for example, Aaron Afallo. That guy was terrible. Or George Hill, who had twice the contract of Wright. Or Joseph outside of his revenge game. The havoc and calamity that Vlade brought onto franchise outside of passing on Luka is monumental. He could have had Brandon Ingram and more from the LAL (Julius Randle?) for Cousins instead of the crap deal he agreed to.

Ingram is averaging 24 PPG on 59% TS% but Vlade preferred Buddy!

On Bagley, the coach is signaling don’t expect him to play this year. He only turned out because his Mommy and Daddy and rap studio are in PHX so it was an easy commute for him. His choice of outfit was not becoming, a sloppy oversized sweatsuit with gaudy print. Is it so hard to put on a nice sports coat and nice (unripped) jeans for the team reunion and probable farewell? I think his choice of attire says it all, he doesn’t think much of SAC so he wore to the game what he rolled out of bed with.

The countdown is on until McGenius cuts out two cancers: Badly and Fluke, I am ready!!!!!!

RikSmits
April 16, 2021 12:09 pm
Reply to  kings4ever

His choice of outfit was not becoming, a sloppy oversized sweatsuit with gaudy print. Is it so hard to put on a nice sports coat and nice (unripped) jeans for the team reunion and probable farewell? 

Seriously?

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Carl
April 16, 2021 12:12 pm
Reply to  RikSmits

I don’t really read any of that, but agree that’s a silly criticism.

Marty
April 16, 2021 12:20 pm
Reply to  RikSmits

Seriously?

someone still reads those, confirmed.

Roaddog
April 16, 2021 3:15 pm
Reply to  RikSmits

Save your time and brain cells Rik, just scroll on by

JoeEnzyme
April 16, 2021 4:31 pm
Reply to  RikSmits

Is that you, Aileen?

PissedOffGorilla
April 16, 2021 3:05 pm

They called me Mr. Glass!!!

alec26
April 16, 2021 3:59 pm

Guaranteed, whoever is coaching the Kings next year is going to take his shot at Redeeming Marvin Bagley. Maybe it will work. The Kings could really use the player Vlade Divac thought he was drafting, or just an above average athletic big.

andy_sims
April 17, 2021 1:14 pm
Reply to  alec26

There’s no real reason not to. He’s under contract, and if he’s not making the kind of difference he needs to make, he’ll be on the market in 14 months. At this point, he’s a low-risk reclamation project, which would be much easier to take if not for his draft position.

rockbottom
April 16, 2021 4:17 pm

Marvin Senior will tell the Kings when his son is ready ! Nothing new !

JoeEnzyme
April 16, 2021 4:38 pm

When I saw the number of comments I knew the majority would be castigating Bagley. I have concluded it’s bull shit. He didn’t choose to be picked before LD. He didn’t choose to have these injuries. He didn’t choose to have his dad say maybe a half dozen idiotic things, one this year that I have heard of, the trade request. He is as good as he is, he has worked hard when not injured, and his game has shown progress. I agree he is probably a sunk cost at this point. I don’t hear about people ripping on JJJ in Memphis and he hasn’t played a minute this year, and his counting stats are similar. I don’t understand the motivation for ridiculing him and assuming the negative about him staying home. How does that offer anything meaningful? Criticize his right hand all you want, but the character assassination is unwarranted IMHO.

HongKongKingsFan
April 16, 2021 5:57 pm
Reply to  JoeEnzyme

HIs BBIQ is still very poor and as low as Buddy Hield, we need some high BBIQ player to help this team to win….(Bagley is not one of those)

High BBIQ players on this roster: Barnes, Tyrese….

JoeEnzyme
April 16, 2021 8:03 pm

That’s a fair criticism. Perhaps better coaching could help with this, perhaps not. Some of BBIQ is innate and some is teachable.

andy_sims
April 17, 2021 1:17 pm

BBIQ, sure, fine. That has what to do with his “outrageous” likely team-sanctioned absence while rehabilitating?

There are so many legitimate criticisms that can be made about Marvin Bagley, but for reasons of which I’m unaware, there’s still some burning need to also create fictional ones. Do you ever pause to wonder why?

JoeEnzyme
April 18, 2021 1:16 am
Reply to  andy_sims

We have an evolutionary trait called negative cognitive bias. It is adaptive to a point in that it helps us detect threats in our environment. it also fuels trolling on the Internet.

TheBaker
April 16, 2021 8:31 pm
Reply to  JoeEnzyme

I appreciate the opinion but I don’t think there’s much of a comparison between Bagley and Jaren Jackson Jr. I’ll take your word that some stats may be similar, but the eye test tells me I’d much rather see/have Jaren in my team. I would think 9.5 out of 10 scouts would take Jaren over Bagley.

JoeEnzyme
April 16, 2021 10:13 pm
Reply to  TheBaker

Thank you for your response. I don’t disagree. My point was about people ripping on him about his injuries, when JJJ is out because of an injury and is not getting trashed over it. MBIII may be too injury prone to stay in the league, but I am not qualified to make that assessment. I recall Brandon Roy being a great player, better than MBIII for sure, and he was limited by injuries, as was Oden. People weren’t blaming them and accusing them over it.

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