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Kings vs Raptors Game Thread

Go Kings!
By | 200 Comments | Nov 19, 2021

Jan 29, 2021; Tampa, Florida, USA; Toronto Raptors guard Fred VanVleet (23) makes a basket over Sacramento Kings guard Tyrese Haliburton (0) during the second half at Amalie Arena. Mandatory Credit: Kim Klement-USA TODAY Sports

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MillersCornrows
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November 19, 2021 6:51 pm

I don’t agree with TT’s point in his rant that coaches don’t inspire players. TT is “that guy” in the locker room? Mo called him the “vocal leader?” Come on. This narrative is crap. Is TT helping them win?

white.chocolate
November 19, 2021 7:19 pm

Kinda true. If they don’t need others to inspire them, then a vocal vet like TT should make no difference.

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November 19, 2021 6:56 pm

No crowd whatsoever to hear a great rendition of the star spangled banner and o Canada tonight. Let’s hope more fans start trickling in.

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November 19, 2021 7:07 pm
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They will announce 15000 regardless ! Too bad Mark Jones calls so few games ! Kyle is not half as good or near what Jim Kozimor was for that matter !

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November 19, 2021 7:08 pm
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Let’s see if the Kings show up tonight..

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November 19, 2021 7:10 pm
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The crowd doing great so far booing Walton as his name is announced. 🙂

white.chocolate
November 19, 2021 7:18 pm
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This should happen every single game until he gets canned. Make it known in no uncertain terms.

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November 19, 2021 8:23 pm
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I had my tickets posted for 1/3 of the price of face value, with no takers. 4th game in a row the seats have gone unsold at a 50-65% discount off face value.

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November 19, 2021 10:16 pm
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Do you have tickets available for the Portland game on Wednesday, the 24th?

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November 19, 2021 10:53 pm
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That one is actually taken by family, thankfully. Admittedly, I’ll actually be going more once the kids are fully vaccinated in a month. However, if the situation presents, I’ll definitely keep you in mind going forward, though!

(I also have no idea why italics happened for that first sentence on my mobile)

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November 19, 2021 11:57 pm
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Oh, no worries–I hope your family enjoys the game and the Kings win, BeTheBall!

Thanks for being willing to keep me in mind. 🙂

I reside in LA, so I probably won’t be able to go to many games (next week I’m home for the holidays)

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November 19, 2021 9:43 pm
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Good. I wouldn’t go either.

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November 19, 2021 7:05 pm

Walton said he likes having TT in the locker room because he’s a vet who’s been through some stuff. Wtf is Walton?

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November 19, 2021 10:17 pm

Hahaha! Good point.

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November 19, 2021 7:08 pm

Only one request from this game………..

NO BAGLEY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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November 19, 2021 7:46 pm

Would rather see him play, won’t make a difference in the outcome anyway.

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November 19, 2021 7:14 pm

Hali hustling

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November 19, 2021 7:20 pm
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I think all 5 guys on the court are locked in so far !!!!

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November 19, 2021 7:31 pm

Can we just have this Barnes every single night ? 

Just amazing effort, already 8 FTs

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November 19, 2021 7:35 pm

Good move to get siakam’s second foul.

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November 19, 2021 7:35 pm

That’s it Bagley is the greatest of all time.

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November 19, 2021 7:45 pm
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This kids got a bright future in this league

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November 19, 2021 7:37 pm

Back on the trade buddy bus

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November 19, 2021 7:37 pm

Bagley will never be a premier player unless he starts hitting his free throws

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November 19, 2021 7:52 pm
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Let’s just shorten this to “Bagley will never be a premier player”……….

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November 19, 2021 7:41 pm

Fox is terrible with the ball at the end of quarters. He used to be great at it…what happened?

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November 19, 2021 7:42 pm

okay…back to the Earth again…

We just need Barnes for 48 mins…

and this 2nd unit sucks

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November 19, 2021 7:43 pm

Didn’t you hear Kayte…the second unit is where the Kings have the advantage.

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November 19, 2021 7:47 pm
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Bagley’s defense just awful, left his man stragiht line drive into the lane for easy 2

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November 19, 2021 7:49 pm

He’s the great Houdini

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November 19, 2021 8:50 pm
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Didn’t you hear Kayte…the second unit is where the Kings have the advantage.

Where everyone is at least -15 tonight.

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November 19, 2021 7:47 pm

This team is hopeless..

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November 19, 2021 7:48 pm
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They really regressed, sad to watch.

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November 19, 2021 7:49 pm
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Just put back Barnes…

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November 19, 2021 7:50 pm

Considering their schedule for the next 9-10 games, the odds of a Walton firing within the next 2 weeks is very high. Finally something exciting to look forward to with this team.

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November 19, 2021 7:53 pm
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Yes, Monte will probably make Walton the scapegoat, but he hasn’t done much with the roster either.

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November 19, 2021 7:54 pm
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No he has not. The bigger concern with this franchise though is how badly Fox has looked this year. Any hopes of them trying to build any sort of competitive team goes out the window when your max player looks like this

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November 19, 2021 7:55 pm
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That is a huge concern, #1 on the list. Kayte’s not worried though.

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November 19, 2021 8:50 pm
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Fox is getting harder and harder to trade. What is he doing that is worth 30M a year?

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November 19, 2021 7:53 pm
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We can only hope…

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November 19, 2021 8:25 pm
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Nah, when he’s still here the excuse will be something about what a tough schedule they’ve had to play.

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November 19, 2021 7:50 pm

What is up with the atmosphere in Golden One? It’s seems empty, quiet, and is there no music playing or am I just unable to hear it on the broadcast?

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November 19, 2021 7:52 pm
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Well considering the product on the floor…

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November 19, 2021 7:53 pm
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Pretty empty today.

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November 19, 2021 8:04 pm
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Maybe your TVs muted. Try unmuting

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November 19, 2021 7:50 pm

Alex Len must have insulted Walton’s cat or something.

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November 19, 2021 7:56 pm
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Len has been so good this year. It’s really inexcusable

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November 19, 2021 7:54 pm

I hate when teams travel 3,000 miles and kick the crap out of us.

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November 19, 2021 7:54 pm

Go with me here. I’m thinking the Kings just aren’t good.

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November 19, 2021 8:26 pm
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Same shit, different year.

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November 19, 2021 7:56 pm

Kings need to drive it in every possession for the rest of the half. Foul out all the raptors.

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November 19, 2021 7:59 pm

Metu being better than Bagley is one of the saddest things about this team

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November 19, 2021 8:04 pm
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The sadder thing is Walton still playing Bagley over Len/Harkless/TT/Dones

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November 19, 2021 8:15 pm

Can’t understand why he would be giving Marv minutes unless we’re playing Detroit

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November 19, 2021 8:05 pm
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It is because some asshole thought he was worthy of a second overall pick.

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November 19, 2021 7:59 pm

Kings down 7….Kings 11/19 from the FT line. Of course

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November 19, 2021 8:03 pm
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Barnes, Buddy, Mitchell, Barnes, 3/17 from the field.

white.chocolate
November 19, 2021 8:07 pm

Possible next steps:
1. Fire Luke Walton.

Would be ok with any of the above options.

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November 19, 2021 8:08 pm

This is getting uglyyyy

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November 19, 2021 8:09 pm

Painful offense.

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November 19, 2021 8:09 pm

Raptors feasting on the Kings, wow!! Now I can hear the crowd.

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November 19, 2021 8:15 pm
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let Vivek and McNair hear the fans………

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November 19, 2021 8:11 pm

Fred vanvleet always been as annoying as chris Paul?

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November 19, 2021 8:14 pm

Kings just lousy enough to get a mid level pick, again.

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November 19, 2021 8:14 pm

I would rather watch Metu, Woodard, Jones, Ramsey, King, Queta (the summer league team) play

Fox just play no defense, easily blow by…….

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November 19, 2021 8:14 pm

You think Luke can inspire his players at halftime?

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November 19, 2021 8:16 pm
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Luke will self expire

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November 19, 2021 8:17 pm
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Luke will have them looking at film.

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November 19, 2021 8:25 pm
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Maybe TT needs someone to inspire him to something more than a 0 pts, 0 rebounds, 0 assists contribution!

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November 19, 2021 8:15 pm

Crowd more hyped for the sugar hill gang than the actual game.

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November 19, 2021 8:16 pm

Kings are 15 years away from being 15 years away from being an actual NBA franchise

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November 19, 2021 8:16 pm

The Kings were outplayed in every aspect of the game…just look at the stats.

Indolentdolt
November 19, 2021 8:16 pm

At this point I’m just showing up to games to boo.

At least I can watch the Cougars beat up on Arizona to gain bowl eligibility tonight.

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November 19, 2021 8:18 pm

You cannot say that the Kings use an NBA level offense or defense.

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November 19, 2021 8:19 pm

I’m liking Kenny. He tells the truth, not a homer. Much better than when he was a King’s player.

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November 19, 2021 8:23 pm
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What did he say ? 
(I cannot watch those post-game, as I am not in Sac-town)

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November 19, 2021 9:08 pm

He said the kings need to play Ramsey, King, Queso and Woodward

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November 19, 2021 8:52 pm
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I’ve noticed that, too. And very genuine, an appealing lack of staged pretense, too. Very comfortable with who he is.

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November 19, 2021 8:20 pm

The Kings are an embarrassment to the game of basketball.

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November 19, 2021 8:20 pm

Only thing to hope is that the Kings lose by 40+.

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November 19, 2021 8:22 pm
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Anything over a loss by at least 20 points is ok by me.

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November 19, 2021 8:20 pm

This team so quickly went from being okay and at least competitive in every game to being embarrassed in like 75% of them. How do you fall this hard from such a low perch?

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November 19, 2021 8:22 pm
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they got self-motivated for first 5 mins of the game…

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November 19, 2021 8:24 pm
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i think you forgot that you need to expect some slippage

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November 19, 2021 8:23 pm

If the Kings come out and lay an egg in the third quarter, Monte should fire Walton on the spot.

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November 19, 2021 8:25 pm
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as opposed to the brilliant second quarter?

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November 19, 2021 8:30 pm
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This quarter could be worse..

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November 19, 2021 8:30 pm
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It’s starting that way.

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November 19, 2021 8:31 pm
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Welp, they did. But Luke survived.

We need to come to grips with the fact that he’s not going anywhere. They can’t afford it, unless Gentry signed a 2yr assistant contract to interim.

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November 19, 2021 8:29 pm

Bench everyone, start Bagley to pump his stats and maximize value for a trade. Blow this team up.

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November 19, 2021 8:32 pm
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A trade for Simmons and building around that might help. I mean I’d rather have a prima donna on this team who led a first place team than this product.

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November 19, 2021 8:37 pm
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There’s no maximizing value for Bagley. The league knows exactly what he is at this point.

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November 19, 2021 8:30 pm

Put it in a good way…

We can use those garbage time to develop Ramsey and King and Queta

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November 19, 2021 8:31 pm

I think only Ramsey is with the team right now. The other two are in Stockton.

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November 19, 2021 8:32 pm

The players on this team are not that bad, it’s Walton…just fire his ass for god’s sake.

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November 19, 2021 8:33 pm
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It’s both.

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November 19, 2021 8:34 pm
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Uhhh…….they are not good either

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November 19, 2021 8:39 pm
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This

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November 19, 2021 8:40 pm
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They have about 4 above average players. That’s not gonna cut it, especially in the West. They don’t have a single star….they thought they did with Fox, but this season is putting to bed that thought unfortunately

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November 19, 2021 8:43 pm
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I didn’t say they were great, just not that bad. Yes we have no stars, but we’ll never know what they can do with an incompetent coach. That’s all I meant.

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November 19, 2021 8:50 pm
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Agreed. A better coach would certainly be getting more out of this roster than what Walton is currently doing. This is why I couldn’t muster any excitement for this year once they announced they were keeping Walton. Just signaled to me that they were throwing away another season. Fully expect him to be fired within the next 2 weeks because wins are gonna be hard to come by with the teams they’re facing and how pathetic they look

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November 19, 2021 8:32 pm

Another season of Kings basketball!

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November 19, 2021 8:35 pm

Fox is definitely no longer one of the fastest players in the league. He’s had serious issues getting by defenders he used to blow past.

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November 19, 2021 8:41 pm
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Something seems wrong. I wonder if he has long COVID.

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November 19, 2021 8:48 pm
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Or short effort.

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November 19, 2021 8:37 pm

This game is dumb….

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November 19, 2021 8:38 pm

I just turned to the game on. That was a bad idea, should’ve kept drinking

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November 19, 2021 8:39 pm

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November 19, 2021 8:43 pm

Bad, right. Used to be when the lead by the other team was 20 pts + I would just change the channel. Now with Luke on the hot seat I’m watching these games to see how bad it actually gets. This has added a new element to my Kings watching and made unwatchable games watchable.

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November 19, 2021 8:38 pm

Taking the long view, the front office has been screwing around doing nothing talking “patience” for over year. They’re going to have to actually take a swing at improving the team here pretty soon. I don’t see how that’s a bad thing.

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November 19, 2021 8:39 pm
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Absolutely. Wholesale changes need to be made.

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November 19, 2021 8:44 pm
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No players are off the table.

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November 19, 2021 8:42 pm
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They brought in TT and Len only to revert back to playing Bagley after creating more Bagley drama by actually pretending to deal with that clown.

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November 19, 2021 8:40 pm

We’re a 27-0 run from being right in this one!

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November 19, 2021 8:41 pm

7:14 left in the 3rd and people are starting to leave. Or maybe I just feel like I should go home.

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November 19, 2021 8:42 pm
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Make sure to boo Luke Walton before you go!

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November 19, 2021 8:56 pm
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I’ve being booing all night. This is pathetic. There’s a bit of a mass exodus starting.

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November 19, 2021 8:46 pm

Does anyone else have issues with the comments not being added here when I refresh? I’ve been having this issue since the site launched. It’s been stuck on 60 comments for the last hour and I want to read about the community losing their shit. Mines already lost btw

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November 19, 2021 8:47 pm
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I get that a lot too. I just refresh every 30 seconds to a minute.

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November 19, 2021 8:49 pm
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It’s so weird. It says106 comments but when I click on the comments it back to like 60. Finally just refreshed though

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November 19, 2021 8:48 pm

I hate to be the one to point this out, but Fox is piliing up meaningless stats in a blowout again. This has become a mini-trend this season.

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November 19, 2021 8:53 pm
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He’s a complete disappointment

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November 19, 2021 9:02 pm
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Yea, his high of the season, 37, was in a losing effort against SA.

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November 19, 2021 8:54 pm
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Fox is leading the league in empty stats that have no impact on the game.

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November 19, 2021 9:02 pm
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Really sucks having to come to terms with the fact that he simply does not look like that star player this franchise needed/hoped they had when they drafted him. Fox’s game regressing rather than elevating just puts this franchise in an even more dire situation than its already in. That contract only gets worse from here and now they don’t really have THAT GUY to build around. Essentially puts them back to square one where they need to hope to draft a star level talent again and then try to build off that

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November 19, 2021 9:11 pm
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In this game who should he defer to on offense? Metu (4-11)? Barnes (3-9)? Buddy (0-6 at the time)? Davion (1-7 at the time)?

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November 19, 2021 8:50 pm

Sheesh, it’s only 16 games. And I like Luke’s demeanor. This team is different.

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November 19, 2021 8:52 pm
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“We’re in a fantastic place as far as where our roster is.”
“Luke Walton is the coach that’s going to reach the playoffs”

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November 19, 2021 8:57 pm
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If only the fans understood that.

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November 19, 2021 8:50 pm

I thought maybe Doug Christie’s presence on the bench might help this year. Oh well.

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November 19, 2021 8:53 pm

Kings are waiting for the Raptors to give them their turn to score.

Raptors are mean to them.

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November 19, 2021 8:53 pm

I WANT RAMSEY NOW !!!!!!!!!!!

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November 19, 2021 8:55 pm

Davis at the buzzer, misses by a mile.

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November 19, 2021 8:55 pm

There’s $40 bucks of food and drink on the escalator

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November 19, 2021 8:57 pm

The Kings are bad, but I wasn’t optimistic about this game, anyway. I watched the Raptors beat the Kings at Golden 1 just before the COVID lockdown with patience, execution and smart team play on both ends on the floor. Exactly the kind of thing the Kings have serious problems with.

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November 19, 2021 9:02 pm
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I was at that game as well. What I got from that game is how teams take on the personality of their coach. Here comes Utah….

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November 19, 2021 9:03 pm

Buddy shows up for some late game chucks!

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November 19, 2021 9:06 pm

Now I get it. You need stops AND buckets. Inane comment

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November 19, 2021 9:07 pm

Anyone want a ticket to tomorrow’s game? Free parking across the street from the arena is also included.

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November 19, 2021 9:11 pm
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No, no I dont

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November 19, 2021 9:09 pm

Come on, Vivek. Just take your billion dollar profit and drive the fuck back to Marin already.

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November 19, 2021 9:09 pm

there are more people at the homeless encampment off 99 than at the arena right now

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November 19, 2021 9:15 pm
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💀☠️☠️

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November 19, 2021 9:11 pm

Bagley is the master at being just out of position for everything

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November 19, 2021 9:12 pm
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Not just on the floor, but in the draft too.

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November 19, 2021 9:13 pm
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Again, I don’t understand why Bagley got playing time 

(If you need rebounding, then play Alex Len/ Jones)

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November 19, 2021 9:14 pm

Fox is lost

Mitchell can’t shoot

Tyrese has not taken the next step

Metu is a good 10th man

Hield gets hot every fifth game

Harrison Barnes blew his wad

Alex Len is lost somewhere in West Sac

Richaun is fighting for scraps

BLOW. IT. UP.

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November 19, 2021 9:20 pm
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Luke is dumb.

Monte is scared.

Vivek is blind.

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November 19, 2021 9:23 pm
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That’s a heck of a t-shirt right there.

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November 19, 2021 9:16 pm

there is no way Luke isn’t canned after this game.

Right?

RIGHT?

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November 19, 2021 9:17 pm

Losing by 25 to a road-weary team at home is not a vote of confidence for the coach

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November 19, 2021 9:18 pm
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Looking forward to Lukes presser

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November 19, 2021 9:20 pm
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He needs to throw shit and call out players, then quit, take his pants off, and pee all over the podium

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November 19, 2021 9:23 pm
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You have a shaky grip on reality but I love your optimism

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November 19, 2021 9:24 pm
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I have a shaky grip, but I’m pumping

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November 19, 2021 9:20 pm

Ready for another TT pep talk.

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November 19, 2021 9:20 pm

Kayte, you talk wayyyy to much, you sound like my mother

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November 19, 2021 9:39 pm
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She never shuts up ! Of course working with that clown Kyle why would she ?

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November 19, 2021 9:21 pm

So disappointing. Here we go again.

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November 19, 2021 9:21 pm

“You have to give credit to the Raptors.” -Luke Walton.

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November 19, 2021 11:23 pm

did he really say that (again)??

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November 19, 2021 9:21 pm

What the fans don’t understand is………….

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November 19, 2021 9:26 pm
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Say what you will, this team is resilient. Did you see how they won that fourth quarter? I can’t wait for the next game.