And now the latest in the ongoing Jonathan Kuminga summer 2025 saga. Sam Amick reported a new tidbit of information Friday: the Kings current offer.
The Kings are offering Malik Monk and its 2030 first-round pick (lottery protected) pick to the Warriors and are willing to pay Kuminga $63 million over three years.
“As for the Kings, who last spoke with the Warriors earlier this week, team sources say they’ve offered a three-year, $63 million deal for Kuminga in a proposal that would send veteran guard Malik Monk and their 2030 first-round pick (lottery protected) to the Warriors (that deal would require the Warriors to move more salary elsewhere to stay under the first apron, likely Moses Moody or Buddy Hield). If that pick didn’t convey, then the Warriors would get the least favorable of the Kings or San Antonio’s first-round pick in 2031. Those protections have been the primary sticking point, team sources said, as the Warriors have insisted that the first-rounder be unprotected. Thus, the stalemate.”
Monk is still owed $59 million over the next three seasons. So, the sticking points are probably a combination of the pick being lottery protected and the money that would need to be sent out to make the deal work.
Amick also added this about this Kings: “The price point of their offer is tied to their desire not to be a tax-paying team this season.”
Amick also confirmed that the Phoenix Suns are willing to offer Kuminga $90 million over four years, but the Warriors are not interested in what the Suns are offering them in the deal. The Warriors have offered Kuminga $45 million over two years with a team option in the second season and “is now signaling an increased willingness to potentially accept the $7.9 million qualifying offer for next season.”
We’ll update you when the next report happens about Kuminga’s situation still being up in the air.
Perry will stop this pursuit as soon as he realizes Kuminga is not a shooting guard.
I don’t see why the Warriors would want Monk in return. It creates more problems (salary, shooting, etc.) for them than it solves. And no one should ever take a lottery protected pick from the Kings. Can we interest you in a over 30, ex-Bulls shot taker? We’ve got a store full of them.
This front office is an absolute cluster phuk.
I think this is a solid deal for the Kings. My only quibble would be getting a 4th year team option. Kings should not pay the tax for a 35 win team (which they’d still be after this deal). Perhaps the Ws are interested in a lightly used undersized shooting guard with poor shooting form and shoulder issues as a “sweetener”?
are you saying Monk + unprotected + Carter? of just Monk + Carter and protected?
The pick must be lotto protected, this is the Kings we are talking about. I’d throw in Carter and take back a small bad contract if the Ws have one.
Kuminga can get to the hoop. So could Gerald Wallace. He is an indifferent defender, a poor rebounder and does not know how to pass the ball. He could not get off the bench in dud-land until an injury. The duds don’t want him. As usual they over value their players and hold out forever until the trade partner just gives in. There are 2 offers out for JK- 2.
I like Monk. Not even sure if I would go straight up Monk for JK. But the FRP is ridiculous.
duds wil not sign him to long term deal, may sign him for 21 M per year but JK not interested. duds may not want Monk since they have Buddy and this deal raises their salary to the point where they have to dump guys.
They should just do a Monte McNair and give JK to the Kings and thrown in a second rounder to sweeten that deal. Standoff- who blinks? I hope not Perry since an unprotected pick + Monk is way too rich.
I’ve seen similar sentiments other places as well. I like Malik Monk…Malik Monk is fun…Malik Monk means “King” in Arabic if you hadn’t heard.
But he is not a a good player, I lean very average overall and he is especially not good at 3 more years for 60 million. He is a specialized bench spark plug/inefficient scoring combo guard. Those don’t cost 20 mill a year.
D’Angelo Russell Last 3 years avg – https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/russeda01.html#2023-2025-sum:per_poss
Monk Last 3 years – https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/monkma01.html#2023-2025-sum:per_poss
Pretty damn similar. Advanced stats are really similar too. Might argue Russell’s are actually better. Russell just got a 2 year – 11 mill contract. Somewhere in the 5-10 mill range is the value of this type of guy. There’s other examples around league too. Ty Jerome, etc.
I understand WHY the Warriors don’t want Monk for salary reasons, aprons etc. It’s a pretty bad contract looking back now. IF the Warriors magically took this deal even with a lotto protected 1st as well, you do it I think and don’t look back. If Kuminga is really in the 20-23ish a year range, trading a inefficient combo guard for a large inefficient wing, with more upside for the same money is a no brainer, Kuminga warts and all.
Add in that it helps clear log jam and open minutes for Keon and Nique, who I think we all want to see more of and evaluate. Deal is no brainer to me.
Which is probably why the Warriors are not interested.
I agree. As fun as Monk can be at times, he is equally as frustrating.
Kuminga is bigger, which balances the roster more, and like you said, allows Keon and Nique to grt more time on the court.
Fans have been clamoring for a larger wing/perimeter player that is athletic. Kuminga is that. And he is only 22. Take a chance and see what he can do.
But he can’t shoot. Doesn’t fit well with Sabonis, that’s for sure. Why have Sabonis if you’re surrounding him with non shooters and ball hogs.
Kuminga is just not someone a team should go looking for unless they have shooting everywhere, and certainly not a player to build around/with.
So, perfect for this kings ckusterfuck. Kinda nothing. Continuing to stay stuck.
i don’t want him but I’d take him over DDR.
Bingo! He’s a bad fit.
He may seem like a decent fit, because of the current logjam of SG’s on the roster, but other than unclogging that a bit, he’s just a bad fit.
We tried the ‘talent over fit’ approach with DDR, and we saw how that went.
But yes, he’s younger, bigger and more athletic than DDR.
I fear Perry will keep on going and the offer will only continue it get worse for the Kings, until it’s a near-term unprotected 1st, or an additional 1st gets added.
Get ready for us to get fleeced.
With this team, the fear of a dumb deal is ever-present.
It’s weird, because it decreases the chances for bringing in Westbrook.
Maybe someone can provide some clarity on the Kuminga base salary compensation status…I thought the Warriors could only take back 50% of what Kuminga signs for in a sign-and-trade. I hear James Ham mention every time a trade comes up for Kuminga.
If Kuminga signs for $21m/year. That means they can only take back %10.5m in any S&T, right? Monk makes like $18m, so how does that work?
Has anybody here (Perry hasn’t, obviously) considered that Kuminga would be the THIRD starting-caliber 3 for the Kangz? Murray and DeRozan are both undersized for their positions. So Kuminga’s a 4 because he jumps high? Drive and dunk is what he does. He’s not even a good pickup for Monk and NO picks. He demands to start. He would make as much as DeRozan. Who do you bench? Do you trade Murray? What a joke!
Kuminga is roughly the same size as others that player PF. He might be 5-10lbs less than some.
Tatum, Jerami Grant, Kawhi, OG, Eason, Aaron GordonTobias Harris are right around 6’7 or 6’8, and between 210-220ish pounds (per basketball reference).
There are outliers (Naz, Mobley, Chet, Zion, LeBron).
Yeah it’s funny how many players were seen as tweeners 20 years ago are the ideal 4 now
This off-season gets a lot worse if they give up an unprotected pick. Kuminga doesn’t really fill a need for this team and isn’t going to significantly improve next seasons performance…..
There are a lot of if’s here. IMO the offer on the table right now is a good offer and Perry should stand pat. If not then walk away. If Kuminga has the talent at 22 and if he can improve then with him as a starter I believe the Kings will have a better record than 35 a season. If the Kings have a handshake deal with DDR then he could be traded, for instance, to the Magic for Rosier and say 2 seconds then after next year they would likely have 26 mil to work with. If Clifford works out then Carter to could be traded. Maybe for a backup point guard. A lot of if”s.
Too many ifs for this FO in my opinion. I missed The Dutchman’s post above when I did mine yesterday. I could have just said of Kuminga, ‘yeah, bad fit.’ Even with the ifs. Nobody’s taking DDR, but even if they did, you’d have Murray/Kuminga at forward. What we need at the 4 alongside Sabonis is an unselfish, D-first guy. That ain’t Kuminga. He doesn’t solve the Kangz’ problems.
Can you name a couple of 4’s who the Kings could trade for that fit your above criteria? I sure would like to know.
IMO, this kind of thinking got us DDR.
“He doesn’t fit but he’s a relatively big name and it shows that we are trying something.”
If you decide to be a beggar, you won’t become a chooser soon.
If we can’t get the guys we want now, maybe we should be patient, work on develop our young guys, see if we can garner an asset ot two? It’s not as if we are going to be a serious contender next season anyway.
Warriors don’t want Kuminga…should be obvious why he’s not a fit despite his innate talents. Pass.
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