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Is this really the roster?

Is this really the squad the Sacramento front office thinks can compete in the Western Conference?
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Feb 21, 2025; Sacramento, California, USA; Sacramento Kings guard Zach LaVine (8) and forward Domantas Sabonis (11) look on during the fourth quarter against the Golden State Warriors at Golden 1 Center. Mandatory Credit: Sergio Estrada-Imagn Images

Another offseason has come and nearly gone, and the results for the Sacramento Kings look much the same as those of previous offseasons passed – a singular new veteran starter (Dennis Schröder) joins the squad, but otherwise all roster moves were just tinkering around the edges. Regardless of how active or inactive the front office was this summer, we’ll wait and see if that nearly-repeat roster can switch gears and turn into a cohesive, winning team.

On the surface, we shouldn’t have been surprised that there was no grand rebuild. Reports in April signaled that Scott Perry wasn’t planning a sweeping offseason teardown. But given the Kings’ embarrassing end to last season, a 40-42 record and a shellacking to the injured Mavericks in the play-in tournament, we all hoped that there’d be some moves that signaled Perry’s awareness that this was a roster that needed more restructuring. That maybe, sadly, the core of Domantas Sabonis, Zach LaVine, DeMar DeRozan, and Malik Monk needed MORE than just a competent starting point guard.

Maybe the biggest summer move got stuck on the negotiating table in San Francisco, where Jonathan Kuminga may want to join Sacramento but seems likely to stay with the Warriors for now. So the soon-to-be 32-year-old Dennis Schröder is the Kings biggest offseason addition, offering Doug Christie a proven capital-P capital-G Point Guard who fights on defense and can play with pace, but who also will be on his sixth team across the past four seasons.

We’ve seen rumors all offseason surrounding some of the Kings veterans. Malik Monk’s name came up in multiple rumored deals, but Mark Stein now reports on the Stein Line that “the Kings are not actively engaged in such trade talks now.” There were reports in May that the Kings were exploring trade options involving DeRozan, but here DeMar stays a King. Sam Amick of the Athletic reported in June that “there are no plans for the Kings to prioritize a new deal for [Zach] LaVine,” given that LaVine is on the last guaranteed year of his deal before a $48 million player option he can pick up next season – but there were never real rumors that the Kings were moving LaVine.

Keon Ellis will enter his fourth year in Sacramento after the Kings picked up the team option on his contract and kicked the chance of signing him to a longer-term deal down the road. Keegan Murray will also enter his fourth year with the Kings having spent the last two seasons as a defensive anchor and an offensive afterthought. And second year guard Devin Carter will hopefully have a chance to prove he belongs after his incomplete rookie season, although his performance at NBA Summer League left us wanting more.

The team did add two new rookies in guard Nique Clifford and center Maxime Raynaud, who both had standout performances in Summer League. How much time the youngsters will get is certainly a question; Clifford offers positional size and versatility, but the Kings glut at guards doesn’t offer him a clear and easy path to guaranteed minutes. Raynaud, meanwhile, may have a more clear runway since only he, Isaac Jones, and whatever Dario Saric has left in the tank represent the backup bigs on the roster.

Gone are both Jonas Valančiūnas and Jake LaRavia, the 2025 trade deadline additions who gave Kings fans a short glimpse at what it was like to have real backups in the paint and on the wing. Trey Lyles may also be gone, as there has been no news of any NBA team picking him up yet. The fact that Doug McDermott’s re-signing constituted the second biggest free agency move for Sacramento says something about the summer state of this roster.

Whatever the reason for the lack of bigger roster moves – Perry refusing to trade players for below his evaluation prices, or a true belief that this team was just Schröder away from improvements last year – I’m left with the same question from summers past. Is this really the roster Sacramento thinks can compete in the Western Conference? It’s the same question we’ve asked every summer since the Beam Team took their first step towards success in 2023, but two straight summers of inaction saw that squad’s success tank.

Here’s hoping the Kings aren’t repeating history again.

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ElRonToro
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September 1, 2025 10:11 am

If there are no more roster changes, this team, with many losses and multiple players complaining about playing time, will implode before Christmas.

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September 1, 2025 1:17 pm
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Perfect! They aren’t going to win with this roster.

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September 1, 2025 3:40 pm
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I only wish. Implosion would be the best thing possible for this team. To be so bad that fans would stop paying attention and Vivek might be forced to do something. So I doubt the piece of shit on her. I’ll ever do anything. He just cares about making money.

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September 1, 2025 3:58 pm
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If there are no more roster changes, this team, with many losses and multiple players complaining about playing time, will implode before Christmas.

This should be what King’s fans hope for. A forced tank job by year’s end, a sell off of as many players by the trade deadline and a top
5 pick in a loaded 2026 draft.

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September 1, 2025 10:17 am

Here’s hoping the Kings aren’t repeating history again.

Oh, I’m sure they’ll find new, embarrassing and unexciting ways to add to that fabled Kangz lore.

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September 1, 2025 10:33 am

What upsets me is that when I look at other teams that have changed GMs this summer (Denver and ATL) those guys made a significant imprint on their respective rosters, as new GMs tend to do. Denver pulled off a big trade for Cam Johnson, easily won the trade for JV, and brought in Bruce Brown and Tim Hardaway Jr. Those are significant moves. ATL made the trade for Zinger, chased down NAW, added Luke Kennard and moved on from Capela. All equally significant and improving moves.

Perry, on the other hand, has done little to nothing to improve the roster. Schröder is a moderate improvement over Monk at PG, he traded away one of the best backup bids for a shell of a player, brought back McDermott ,and now expect Eubanks to be a contributor. You can’t tell me that any relevant basketball mind out there thinks the Kings improved this summer. They appear to be a joke at the moment.

Maybe there is some rabbit in hat situation brewing before camp opens, but with each passing day, and left feeling majority disappointed with this franchise. If they end up adding Westbrook without doing anything else, it will tell me they are an incredibly unserious franchise that only cares about making money instead of winning.

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September 1, 2025 10:42 am
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…they are an incredibly unserious franchise that only cares about making money instead of winning.

This has been my take for some time – that Vivek wants to win just enough to keep the seats full and the $$$ rolling in, but not remotely enough to actually (horror of horrors) pay one single penny of luxury tax.

This is a money-making venture and a personal plaything/toy for Vivek. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Also, if it wasn’t clear before that the change of GM was just window dressing on the reality that Vivek was, is, and will always be, the de-facto GM of this sorry franchise, it should be crystal clear to everyone by now.

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September 1, 2025 3:43 pm
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Exactly. And it’s really gross about this owner and all these rich folk is that he has more than enough money then he’ll ever need for multiple lifetimes.

so why not try to win? Why not try to treat people with a modicum of respect. Because these fuckers are greedy.

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September 2, 2025 7:14 am
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I don’t really get that judging by his actions. I think he really wants to build a contender, but doesn’t have a clue how to do it. He overpays on middling guys not knowing Sacramento just isn’t a huge draw. He wants Sacramento to be a Mecca for players to want to come, but doesn’t understand you have to create that when you aren’t a big market like San Antonio has. The key for any small market teams is to develop a culture which requires a long term plan and sticking to “what it is to build a championship culture.” He comes from tech which is a culture of moving very fast or you are a dinosaur and gone when the nba is a years long process of acquiring a developing talent/culture. His ego is far too big to accept what’s obvious.

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September 2, 2025 7:16 am
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I also think you have somewhat a point on the money and him not wanting to go through the lean years of a rebuild. I just think Sacramento would show up for a rebuild though if we could see a brick by brick long term plan.

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September 4, 2025 10:35 am
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I agree with you about the fans. We’ve put up with some horrible seasons, but if the roster contains some young players to feel excited about (justified or not), we still show up.

After so many decades in the wilderness, Kings fans have a pretty low bar as it relates to feeling hopeful and excited about the team. I don’t mean that as an insult; I think that any team’s supporters ought to be able to stay fully engaged, even in years where the team isn’t likely to make the playoffs. Ownership’s responsibility is to throw the fans a bone, in whatever form that takes.

I think that Schroder was a good and necessary addition to the roster. Having an actual point guard isn’t even a little bit optional. His impact, however, is going to be highly dependent on the way that shooting guard minutes are distributed. DeRozan and Lavine make a lot of money, so they are going to play, but I’d put them at the wing to ensure that the unfortunately-perpetual odd man out, Keon Ellis, sees something like thirty minutes per game. Monk and Carter can share what’s left. I use Clifford both as a shooting guard and at the wing, and with his floor vision, I’d even let him spend time at the point.

As to the bigs, I’d say that there is the possibility that some of the not-Sabonis guys could develop into NBA players. I don’t expect very much from Eubanks and Saric, but Isaac Jones busts his ass and is a ridiculous athlete. If he’s given adequate minutes, he could show a ton of growth this season. Raynaud has a nicely-skilled style of play, should be able to stretch the floor when needed, could be the guy to spell Sabonis, and even share minutes with Domas.

So while it’s true that the roster is worse than it was a year ago, there are still some pretty compelling players who may make the losses a bit more palatable. That said, everything is dependent on what the rotations look like. What I’ve described, under the current circumstances, is my ideal for how things would go, and would include moving DeRozan (doable) and/or Lavine (not impossible). And while I love Sabonis, if the right combo of young players & picks can be had, I send him to the best-possible situation available, he’s earned that. If the season shakes out with some of these things happening, I’d feel pretty good about it, even if the Kings lose sixty games.

Will DC have the leeway to run rotations along these lines? That’s tough to say, but my guess is that he won’t be given an adequate amount of rope. Would DC run things as I’ve described if he does have the autonomy?

I don’t know. It’s not really possible at this point to suss out Christie’s philosophy as a head coach. The sample size is too small, and there were significant roster changes during the season. My guess is that he’ll lean toward the conservative and try to win as many games as possible. From a head coach’s perspective, winning thirty-five games does him more good than winning twenty-five, but as things stand, fewer wins offers more in the near-term than it does in the immediate.

Doug! You have a contract! If they fire you, the checks will still come! Show the NBA that you’re a big-picture thinker and play for the future! How good would it look if you were in charge when Ellis takes a massive leap, and when Raynaud and Clifford prove themselves to be NBA players? I’ve never asked you for anything, Doug! You and me: Let’s be great together!

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September 1, 2025 3:41 pm
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Because the general manager is the owner. Always has been. And always will be unless somehow he gets his head out of his ass. This is very Jerry Jones.

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September 1, 2025 3:59 pm
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Vivek is the dismissive little chap and to me Perry just comes off as a douche.
Quite the combo leading this org.

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September 2, 2025 7:34 am
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Perry just the latest yes man to be hired by Vivek that had no other options . Pete D , Vlade , and Monte all highly paid to be the front men . Rinse and repeat .

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September 1, 2025 4:00 pm
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Maybe there is some rabbit in hat situation brewing before camp opens

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September 1, 2025 4:01 pm
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I’m with you on everything you said. Perry was great as soon as the off season started, like the coaching choices and he made, but hasn’t done anything good since the draft in late June. Schroder, Saric, Eubanks & McD isn’t much to get excited about. Dennis is a slight upgrade in ball handling & passing maybe…and def better on D but that’s about it.
Hard for this team to get out of purgatory for the next 2 years until Zach & Demar are gone. There’s too much talent to win less than 40 gms and get a better pick than 14th, 15th range.

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September 2, 2025 7:26 am
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Not sure what you expect with few assets, little cap room and bloated contracts that don’t have much of a return. Monk is a good example. He’s nice, but at the price and with the rest of the leagues cap room, doesn’t create a lot of demand. Sabonis also is talented, but you have to create a certain team with his skillset. He also lacks the top end talent to desire another team to want to build around. Lavine is a 1 trick pony that’s worth probably half his contract which means you have to throw in assets just to offload him. Derozan on a fair contract, but his age and skillset don’t demand a very high return. The current assets with a decent return are just Murray and Ellis with the former not returning as much as the draft capital you used on him and the latter is more in the Dort range of he’s young and should be be a core piece. The problem is Dort had a free cap sheet by okc when they paid him to be the defensive guy/ culture set for the next core at the time which was cheap. That required foresight and vision on what the thunder wanted their identity to be. It would be best to follow the thunders blueprint, but the kings don’t have the assets to acquire picks or cap space to absorb contracts to turn into future picks.

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September 2, 2025 8:30 am
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Not sure what you expect with few assets, little cap room and bloated contracts that don’t have much of a return.

I would want them to not add more bloated contracts like Schroder’s.

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September 3, 2025 9:42 am
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Exactly!

But we are constantly told by the talking heads around the organization that the new GM/coach/whatever “needs time” and can’t be judged because everything that is wrong is the previous guys fault.

Meanwhile, around the league new people get hired all the time and start making significant changes to teams that are stalling or stuck in purgatory. You gave two great examples.

The reason for this is because with the Kings nothing really changes, no matter what yes-man Vivek puts in front of him.

We essentially have the worst GM in the league (maybe sports history) in Vivek… and nobody with any sway will hold him directly accountable. And there is no way to fire him.

This team is so fucked. How I wish there was some way there would have been a different owner that could have kept the team in Sac. Burkle? Mastrov? Hard to imagine anyone being worse than this dismissive little chap.

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September 3, 2025 11:21 am
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That’s because those GMs were not hired for the sole reason of being a proven yes man to the owner. Vivek just wants a good mouth piece for the media and Perry does that well.

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September 1, 2025 11:03 am

I canceled League Pass for a reason.

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September 1, 2025 11:58 am
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Speaking of League Pass, Ziller had a good piece today about the ever changing ways of watching the NBA. It’s likely gonna be expensive and challenging for hardcore NBA fans to take in every game they want to see.

Free newsletter of the fortnight is on the cost of watching the NBA in '25-26. For some fans (like me), cost might go down if you can drop the big bloated streaming bundle. But that depends on being able to get access to your local team in an efficient way. http://www.teamziller.com/nba-streamin...

Tom Ziller (@teamziller.bsky.social) 2025-09-01T13:38:07.553Z

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September 1, 2025 4:02 pm
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As a point of principle, fans should never pay to watch games. The NbA makes more than enough from ad revenue and tv deals.

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September 1, 2025 2:22 pm
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I cancelled Team Pass midway through last season, and based off everything that has happened since, I have no intention of renewing this season.

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September 1, 2025 11:47 am

Without having traded DeMar who is currently the 3, a trade for Kuminga would not have made sense. The best we can hope for is real leadership from Schroeder and a commitment to team Defense led by LaVine and Sabonis. I’m not optimistic.

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September 1, 2025 1:02 pm

If the lineup basically stays the same forget this year. A bunch of old timers starting won’t be fun to watch. Murray is the only starter that is young. I read an article the other day asking the question is Sabonis at is max? He is one of the best centers in the league but where have we gone. Nowhere. He is good in regular season but during the playoffs the other teams have him figured him out and he make no impact what so ever. Derozan doesn’t fit and neither does Monk. IMO I have no confidence in Carter. The front office basically went after one player Kuminga and spent nearly all summer trying to get him. GWS wouln’t budge and neither would Perry. So nobody got nothing.
IMO we need to trade Carter, Monk, Derozan and maybe Sabonis. We need to get YOUNGER not OLDER. Some ideas I favor none of which are mine but I could really support. Carter and a second to Denver for Peyton Watson. Monk and a first to the Magic for Antyhony Black and Jett Howard. I really like Black. DeRozan to the Clippers for Cam Christie and a first.
My starting line up with Lavine starting at small forward which he has done many times.
Starters: Schroder, Ellis, LaVine, Murray and Sabonis. Black (back up point guard and eventually the starter).Clifford and Christie at shooting guards.Peyton a backup to LaVine. Also could play Clifford. Jones, Howard and Raynaud backups to Murray. Raynaud and Eubanks as backups to Sabonis.
Lastly I would strongly consider trading Sabonis to the Pistons for Jalen Duren, Ron Holland, Tobias Harris and the 2026 and 2029 first rounders, Duren IMO can handle the starting center position and Holland either at SF or PF. Tobias Harris is as steady a player you can have. He has an expiring contract so trade him next year or let him go and save a lot of money next year for free agents or etc. And we get to early first round picks.

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September 1, 2025 12:43 pm

The Fox trade killed whatever hope this team had left–not because Fox himself left, but because the return was the opposite of what the remaining roster called for. It was an opportunity to turn an undersized, defense-challenged, offensively inconsistent team into a hard-nosed squad with the tough-as-nails Sabonis as its centerpiece. McNair/Vivek’s insistence on getting a single star of “equivalent value” for Fox instead of a plethora of assets that could remake the team’s image over the subsequent season was the final nail in the coffin of hope.

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September 1, 2025 12:55 pm
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Didn’t matter. LaVine was one of Vivek’s “guys”, and literally nothing else was considered.

Vivek must have his “guys” at all costs.

What Vivek wants is all that matters.

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September 1, 2025 1:02 pm
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This is why I think we will see Westbrook and/or Kuzma in a Kings uni before Thanksgiving. It’s painfully obvious the “front office” holds man crushes on certain players regardless of who the GM is.

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September 1, 2025 1:09 pm
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Westbrook? More old players. That’s what we need. I just don’t understand this FO. We could possibly trade for Anthony Black. Makes no sense.

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September 1, 2025 1:26 pm
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Anthony Black, or any other named non-famous prospect, doesn’t sell. Westbrook jerseys will move and casual Kings fans will buy tickets to watch Russ throw up bricks and provide the random highlight. It’s about the bottom line.

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September 1, 2025 2:35 pm
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^^^^ This 1000%

You have to let go of the idea that Vivek wants to win, or even be great.

He doesn’t.

He wants to maximize his revenue, and play with his toy.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

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September 1, 2025 5:01 pm
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I agree. This is the saddest time in Kings history. Going nowhere. I feel so sorry for the fan base who has supported the Kings faithfully.

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September 1, 2025 4:57 pm
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IMO if we keep what we have in old guys that will never improve then the fan base will figure this out and EVENTUALLY quite Vivek and not support his money grabbing scheme. If the Kings start making moves to bring in younger players that have potential to start a rebuilt then the fan base will see this as a starting point and again support the Sacramento Kings.

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September 1, 2025 2:33 pm
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It makes much more sense if you step back and try to understand that Vivek isn’t trying to build a great team.

He isn’t interested in:

1) trades that help the team do anything more than create a 38-45 win team and make the play-in so he can maximize butts in seats and money in his pocket.

2) doing anything other than bringing in his “favorites”, or “big names” that will contribute to #1 above.

If you look at it through that lens, it all makes perfect sense.

If you look at it through any other lens, you’ll drive yourself absolutely insane trying to figure it out.

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September 1, 2025 3:46 pm
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It’s easy to understand. The owner is the front office. End of story. Until he sells or backs off, this is how it’s going to be.

Oh, and fuck the owner

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September 1, 2025 3:59 pm
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So you’re saying it doesn’t really matter and that it wont make anybody feel better?

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September 1, 2025 12:59 pm
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It’s the Golden State roster method of building by retaining contracts and kicking the asset can down the road. It works, in theory, if you are a contender and you need those kind of “equivalent value” contracts to compete in the now. For the Dubs they turned Durant into a S&T for D’Angelo Russell, who was later traded for Wiggins, who was later traded for Butler all to keep the championship window open for Curry.

The Kings, of course, don’t have a star player to build around, are not a contender, target players for their fantasy stats rather than fit, are not willing to spend in the longterm to compete. It’s been amateur hour for 12+ years now.

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September 1, 2025 1:13 pm
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If its true and I have no doubts it isn’t then what Adamsite says we will be a terrible franchise for the next hundred years. So So Sad.

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September 1, 2025 2:39 pm
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But Vivek will make millions (to billions). That’s all that matters in our current era of history.

He will only do anything different when there are enough empty seats to affect his profit margins.

And at that point I expect the “different” will be for him to sell and cash out, not to actually try and make the team better.

The profit isn’t the main thing. It’s the only thing. That’s clear.

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September 1, 2025 3:49 pm
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I’m not even sure if empty seats will stop him because the value of the franchise will continue to go up and the TV deals are so huge that owners make money anyway.

maybe there’s a slim hope that sans could protest enough to make him uncomfortable.

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September 1, 2025 3:44 pm
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The moment Vivek became the owner killed all hope for this team.

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September 1, 2025 4:06 pm
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Fox was the King’s best asset and they got .50 cents on the dollar for him. My gut tells me MM was instructed to obtain ZL in a Fox trade by Vivek. But I also can’t absolve MM from not getting our pick swap with the Spurs back in that deal.
I’m expecting similar deals by Perry where Vivek is pushing trades behind the scenes and Perry has to do as told.

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September 1, 2025 5:04 pm
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Yeah like the Westbrook fiasco.

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September 2, 2025 2:40 am
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Trash return on Fox was a foregone conclusion once Rich Paul/Dearon leaked that Fox would only go to San Antonio.

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September 2, 2025 1:11 pm

At the time of the trade Fox had 18 months on his contract and he did not have a no trade clause . Simply put , Kings had time and flexibility to make a better deal . Seemed a case of Vivek not wanting to pay Fox and an owner crush for Lavine .

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September 2, 2025 1:26 pm
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Exactly!

We’d have been better off not involving the Bulls and just moving Fox to the Spurs for what the Spurs sent out to us and Chicago.

Sidy Cissoko, Zach Collins, Tre Jones, all the picks we got from the Spurs and Chicago’s 2025 1st round pick. Then move Huerter in another deal if we wanted.

Instead we didn’t want to pay Fox the Max so we moved him for the bloated unmovable LaVine contract.

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September 3, 2025 3:36 am
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… Of course he did not have a no trade clause, but his value was in his willingness to re-sign.I think it was fair Kings did not want to pay Fox. I wonder if SAS will want to be paying him 2 years from now, if Castle and Harper turn out to be their starting guards (fair chance of that). Maybe that contract is tradeable

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September 1, 2025 2:28 pm

The colossal stupidity of this ownership group and front office knows no bounds. This team as currently constructed will be lucky to win 35 games. Perry has done basically nothing to clean up Monte’s past sins, brought in a 32 year old pg, traded away one of the best backup 5’s for a has been and extended McDermott. We have a horribly imbalanced roster with a startling lack of front court depth. In fairness he brought in 2 decent rookies but it won’t be enough to move the needle this year. What a shit show.

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September 1, 2025 3:49 pm
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Monte did his best. He wasn’t the one who fucked this team up. It’s the owner. Stop blaming the general managers. All the folks in all the blame needs to be on the ass hole at the top.

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September 1, 2025 4:09 pm
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Yes Vivek is the primary problem and responsible for this mess. But I don’t absolve MM for his countless mistakes and for not having the stones to speak the truth about how the FO works under Vivek.
Just look at MM’s draft picks, pick after pick of undersized guards. The trash return in the Fox trade. Trading away Hali.
The list goes on.

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September 1, 2025 3:57 pm

Just wait until 2031 when Vivek trades the Minny pick for a 46 yr old Lebron James and he will declare “The Kings have the King!”

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September 1, 2025 4:15 pm

Vivek means “King” in Hindi…

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September 1, 2025 4:45 pm

38 wins, last spot in play-in here we come. yay (small y)

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September 1, 2025 5:07 pm
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If we keep the roster as is I would not be surprised we win 38 games,

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September 1, 2025 5:32 pm

Compete in the Western Conference? Nope.

Bring in money for Vivek? Yep.

It’s not about actually winning or competing for this team; it’s only about the appearance of the “play-in” that Vivek hopes will keep people buying tickets/merch/food so he keeps making money without having to spend to actually win on the court. Getting rid of JV for Saric this year is one of the best examples; a quality backup that we’ve desperately needed at C for a couple years, rent him for a couple months then send him out when the bill’s due. Makes me think the Beam Team overachieved and Vivek got scared that he’d actually have to spend money since they raised expectations, thus the “run it back” roster and we’re right back to where we’ve been since 2006.

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September 1, 2025 6:21 pm
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I do get a chuckle when I hear from different places that JV was too expensive of a backup for Sabonis who’s gonna get 35+ minutes a night. Then I hear from the same type of folks on how JV is such a great add to Denver…where he is backing up the best center in the league.

That JV for Saric trade is totally disgusting, especially when you consider that assets were given up to get JV. As to the math, the salary shed in the trade was NOT required to add Schröder. Maybe there was some later plan to use that space, but nothing has transpired yet.

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September 1, 2025 6:13 pm

This is a (rightfully) surly and spot-on group in this thread.

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September 2, 2025 1:05 pm
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Being a Kings fan for 40 years will make one surly.

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September 3, 2025 9:41 am
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Ditto.

They came to Sacramento my sophomore year of high school.

I’m 55 now.

Any human, even a fan(atic) can only take so much.

40 years. 4 ownership groups. 3 arenas.

And with one single, all-too-short exception (1999-2003) it’s been the same old, same old through it all.

At a certain point, even the most faithful among us begin to crack.

And I’m absolutely cracking right now.

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September 1, 2025 6:42 pm

Can you guys believe it’s actually worse now than the day after we traded Fox? F this team, I’m not putting a dollar in Vivek’s pocket by attending a game, buying a jersey, paying for League Pass, or anything of the sort.

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September 1, 2025 7:24 pm
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Unless Vivek steps aside and gives Perry full control this team is lost for eternity. Even if Perry has complete control what has he done. He hasn’t made this team better. He got Schroder. OK. He got 2 good draft picks. OK. DeRozan, Monk, Carter, LaVine and IMO Sabonis all should be moved. Not one has been moved. Kuminga, Kuminga, Kuminga! That’s all we have relied on this whole summer. Where are we on this NOWHERE. Josh Giddey is still a free agent. He would fit the Kings roster far better than Kuminga. There have been some pretty good hypothetical trades out there. NOTHING. Westbrook is a fiasco and will have no impact on this team’s chances to advance. Nobody wants him. Doesn’t that prove something? No Vivek wants him. Vivek has no idea how to be a general manager and so far Perry doesn’t either. I am almost ready to drop King’s Herals until something drastically changes the King’s roster. I’ll still be a fan decause of Murray, Ellis, Jones, Clifford and Raynaud. If it wasn’t for guys like Adamsite and Murraytant I probably would. Banging your head on a piece of wood just doesn’t do any good.

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September 2, 2025 2:57 am
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Giddey gets me giddy! Would be a great fit in my view, but where do we find 100M/4 years …?

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September 1, 2025 8:44 pm

Kudos to those who still think a disappointing first half will usher in a proper tank job.

It’s not all bad news though, I was finally able to evade the trademark police. Look for me at a Sacramento gathering near you.

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September 2, 2025 2:59 am

Yeah, nothing to expect a jump to 40-45 wins. I will just hope for progress from the young guys, Clifford, Raynaud, I Jones, …. also Keon and Keegan!

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September 2, 2025 9:21 am

Speaking of Keon and Keegan, I keep seeing this Sac Kings ad for tickets this season. I hadn’t paid too much attention to it when I realized that neither Keon or Keegan are anywhere in the ad. There is plenty of Domas, DDR, LaVine, and Monk…even a Devin Carter and McDermott sighting, but that’s about it. It’s likely nothing, but you’d think they’d be in the background somewhere or in a flash cut, but nope.

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September 2, 2025 1:15 pm
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Be afraid , be very afraid .

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September 2, 2025 4:10 pm
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Keegan, Keon & Monk for Kuminga at matching salary. We’ll probably end up adding an unprotected first as well.

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September 2, 2025 8:36 pm
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I’ve seen it reported that the Dubs would jump on Keegan or Keon being included on a Kuminga deal. I now fully expect the Kangz to do something like that.

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September 2, 2025 9:56 am

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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September 2, 2025 2:00 pm

All that Vivek hate…

He’s the reason we still have a team to root for. I’m just thankful.

And he also promised to bring the Monarchs back. That can happen any day now.

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September 2, 2025 4:12 pm
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He really F’d up on the Monarchs thing. Should have brought them back right away. WNBA teams are worth way too much now. Like more than the Maloofs paid for the Kings.

Never going to happen now.

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September 2, 2025 5:38 pm
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I am grateful that he helped keep the Kings here and I don’t have to root for a Seattle or Vegas team.

But if he as the owner is going to publicly make promises or statements about doing something, his actions will be held against him. If he as the owner is going to take credit and celebrate success, he needs to also be judged by the other years this team hasn’t been successful. One good year does not wipe away all the other years of failure under his ownership, and that’s what it is getting to be. He may be making money now, but he may find himself as hated if not more than the Maloofs and also run out of town. If this team performs like we think it might, the Beam Team will be ancient history in comparison.

That said, if he DID bring the Monarchs back that would get him some brownie points. Because F Golden State for taking their colors.

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September 3, 2025 9:30 am
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Rik, i digress. Vivek was part of the reason that the Kings stayed in Sac. The biggest reason(s) were the undying support Kings fan showed in wanting the Kings to stay, the Here We Stay Movement, the caravan that started in Sac all the way to NY, the support that the mayor (KJ) did, and the late David Stern.

Vivek was a business shark who saw blood in the waters and smelled an opportunity to make a buck and subsequently proclaimed himself as savior.

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September 3, 2025 10:46 am
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I was being sarcastic, Mr Montoya. I agree with you.

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September 3, 2025 10:57 am
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Why you….you made me fall in the chasm? Stabbing you with Pookey’s fork!

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September 3, 2025 5:43 pm
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Damn it Rik, you got me too!

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September 3, 2025 10:20 pm
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Come on, guys?

Have I ever been on the “we should just be grateful that we have a team and STFU” wagon?

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September 4, 2025 8:14 am
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Yes! And I quote your comment from 9/3/25

we should just be grateful that we have a team and STFU

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September 2, 2025 2:11 pm

Even if Scott Perry was given free reign would you have confidence that he could turn this roster around

That the Kings got picks for Fox, I just fear those picks will be dealt for meaningless short sighted moves that won’t really help the bottom line

To win in the NBA you need elite talent, there is not one player on this roster who is elite. there are lots of players I think playoff teams would want but would not be amongst their best

As an occasional fan I don’t know how the Kings will get an elite player anytime soon

I’m not sure I’d agree with some of your notions that Vivek is just about the money, I tend to see him as a meddler with grandiose ideas

Does the average fan really that excited if Westbrook is on this team

I wonder if the new economic reality of the collective bargaining agreement has put a chill on trades, so teams who signed guys like Monk/Lavine on the old system are stuck with them

Why did they resign McDermott

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September 2, 2025 4:16 pm
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Even if Scott Perry was given free reign would you have confidence that he could turn this roster around

Not after that contract he and BJ gave Schroder.

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September 3, 2025 9:34 am
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Even if Scott Perry was given free reign would you have confidence that he could turn this roster around

I’d rather watch a GM try and fail on his own, as opposed to watching a living, breathing meat-puppet for Vivek in action.

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September 2, 2025 3:20 pm

For the last few years now I at least hoped it might turn into a real season, although I never was actually confident in the rosters.

This year and with this group I have absolutely zero hope there might be a surprise.

Worst of all, I don´t even think I care anymore. After almost 20 years I just cancelled my league pass subscription, not only because the prize feels like an insult these days, but maily because I think this team just isn´t worth my money or time. To think how many 4am starts I watched live over the years when I was really invested…

It may take new ownership for me to turn around. Obviously I will continue to follow the development on TKH, but I´m not interested in watching this dumpster fire on an NBA roster.

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September 2, 2025 3:21 pm
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And 1
I really hope Sabonis makes it out quickly because I really hate the thought of him wasting his prime in a hopeless situation

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September 2, 2025 6:27 pm
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Somebody help me with two questions. One I read where the Suns minority owners are suing the primary owner for mismanagement, Can that happen here?
Second I read where a trade that would send LaVine to the Warriors for Jonathan Kuminga. How can that happen?

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September 2, 2025 8:42 pm
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I believe your first part is partially right. They are suing for access to financial records, not mismanagement. I don’t think it is any kind of coup to remove Ishbia.

Your second point on LaVine for Kuminga cannot happen financially.

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September 3, 2025 3:42 am
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What about a Lavine for S&T Kuminga + …?

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September 3, 2025 7:34 am

I keep hearing that who would start at the shooting guard position Ellis or LaVine? Could the rotation look like this: Schroder, Ellis, LaVine, Murray and Sabonis. LaVine has played plenty of games at small forward and I understand the thinking he has trouble playing defense. His offense overrides his defense and you now have Ellis to handle the defense on either SG or SF. This rotation allows the Kings to play both. What do some of you think on this?

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September 3, 2025 9:34 am
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Unless a miracle happens, i cant imagine Vivek would allow DDR to come off the bench as he is the “biggest catch” he’s had. Monk could be 6th man again, but not DDR, egos be damned.

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September 3, 2025 8:46 am

Still can’t happen. Warriors can not take on LaVine’s deal and still fill out a roster while staying under the apron. It’s just not possible.

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September 3, 2025 9:31 am
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Completely agree. Great player and seems to be an even better person. I would really hate to see him get Mitch Richmond-ed and spend all of his prime years wasting away in an organization that couldn’t care less.

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September 3, 2025 8:42 am

the Trap – a historic dive bar in Sacramento owned by former King’s owner, Gregg Lukenbill, and his daughter, Mariah, is hosting this wonderful event on Wednesday for anyone interested. Should be a good time!

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September 3, 2025 1:01 pm

OT: This Kawhi Leonard news of suppository taking $28M under that table for a no-show sponsorship orchestrated by Ballmer could be devastating to the Clippers. Rightfully so, if true. I don’t think fining them is enough to discourage an owner like Ballmer. Take their draft picks like the Joe Smith scandal.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kawhi-leonard-contract-nba-clippers-steve-ballmer-uncle-dennis-no-show-job/

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September 3, 2025 1:14 pm
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OT: This Kawhi Leonard news of suppository taking $28M

That’s a lot of Franklins to take up one’s butt.

They voided Joe Smith’s 1 year wink wink contracts too, so he couldn’t sign a large extension. They should take draft picks and void Kawhi’s contract. The story on this in the Athletic had this paragraph:

According to a 2019 report by The Athletic, the NBA conducted a formal investigation of complaints that Leonard’s uncle and chief business partner, Dennis Robertson, had asked for improper benefits from multiple teams when Leonard was a free agent that summer. Sources at the time said Robertson asked team officials for part ownership of the team, a private plane that would be available at all times, a house and a guaranteed amount of off-court endorsement money that they could expect if Leonard played for their team.

If this stuff is true, I think Kawhi should be suspended.

As for the Clips, it’s bad enough that large markets get the benefit of better local TV deals, higher ticket prices and offer an opportunity for better local endorsement deals for potential FAs without this kind of fraud.

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September 3, 2025 2:36 pm
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For anyone wanting further details on this. Pablo Torre absolutely knocked it out of the park with this journalism. He brought the receipts. Well worth the watch/listen

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OT: This Kawhi Leonard news of suppository taking $28M

That’s a lot of Franklins to take up one’s butt.

I think the shit is about to hit the fan.

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September 3, 2025 5:45 pm
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I’m interested to see how this plays out. I highly doubt only the Clippers engage in something like this for stars or superstars. Unless they just want to make an example of the Clippers for being the one’s so easily caught.

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September 4, 2025 8:47 am
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Its not like Leonard plays that much now 🙂

I’d love to know what punishment will be levied if this found out to be true, The NBA Commish works for the owners.

Balmer is rich well liked owner, will be curious as to where this goes

Its like when they college teams cheated like USC, the journalist part of the media system chased the story, but if your network had the PAC 10 contract you still wanted USC on TV as that’s ratings, so as such the investigation into USC took a long time to happen

September 3, 2025 6:58 pm
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This might just be the tip of the iceberg. Is Jalen Brunson up next?

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Do the Clippers have draft picks to actual be taken, I thought they had traded most of them away

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