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De’Aaron Fox Is a Land of Contrasts

Online drama and a fan base divided.
By | 101 Comments | Feb 17, 2025

Feb 10, 2025; Washington, District of Columbia, USA; San Antonio Spurs guard De'Aaron Fox (4) looks on during the fourth quarter against the Washington Wizards at Capital One Arena. Mandatory Credit: Reggie Hildred-Imagn Images

(The following is a reader submission. Enjoy! – Greg)

I can’t speak for the rest of Kings Internet, but I can confirm via on-the-ground reporting that Kings Twitter is in the throes of another one of its cyclical Major Schisms. The subject this time, unsurprisingly, is De’Aaron Fox, our erstwhile quasi-superstar, whose weird, uncomfortable exit (one of countless weird, uncomfortable personnel oopsies under the weird, uncomfortable Ranadivé regime) has hastened some unfortunate decisions from all concerned. Constant leaks throughout the player transaction process tend to be more or less standard fare for our dumb team, and this instance was certainly no exception. Whether the hints that were constantly dropping in the (utterly captured, more or less pointless) NBA media about Fox’s preference to be dealt, where to be dealt, and whom not to be dealt for turn out to have been Klutch maneuvering or just garden-variety janky Kings bullshit makes little difference. It all adds up to the same mess as always.

Fox has long been a somewhat polarizing figure, a natural outgrowth of the tension between his off-the-charts physical gifts, intelligence, toughness, and work ethic (some facet of his game has reliably improved year over year, a testament to his offseason commitment) and his limited leadership capabilities, increasingly frequent lapses in on-court focus/effort, and overall sourpuss demeanor. He’ll make a model pairing with surly Frenchman Victor Wembanyama in San Antonio, and I am genuinely looking forward to their Daria synergy for years to come.

Many of us were touched by his apparent affinity for the city, his fast embrace of the fanbase, his decision to start and grow his young family here. And many of us were put off by his persistent refusal to say the right things when fans’ feelings (very volatile things indeed amidst the endless unfolding disaster that is our lot in life) really could have used a firm hand and a steady voice. That’s a service max players are meant to provide, regardless of whether their franchise happens to be run by a series of clowns piling out of the same tiny car, and that’s something for which we were always left wanting with De’Aaron Fox at the helm. Your mileage may vary as far as the importance of the public-facing aspects of professional athletes’ jobs, but it’d be hard to argue that Fox’s clear hostility toward his responsibilities in that regard has ever reflected particularly well on him.

But given that the Luka Dončićes of the world were for whatever reason not forthcoming, the superstar vacuum had to be filled by someone. And, as with any role that confers power, that 1A status came with a built-in constituency. His champions are loud and numerous and they make many good points. He was the first-ever Clutch Player of the Year, and he more than earned it. He went toe to toe with Steph Curry in the playoffs before injuries limited him. He played hurt constantly. He scored 109 points in a 24-hour period earlier this season. For one glorious moment, he helped drag us out of the slime and into the first round. The Beam is lit, and he did the lighting. He’s Fucking Nice, no ifs, ands, or buts. Some of us will always love him for that. Some of us stop short of love and merely appreciate him for his many contributions. And some of us, apparently, forgot all about all of that and hate his fucking guts. And, thus, the schism.

Fox, for his part, has done little to stem the tide of antipathy headed his way from certain corners of the faithful. As always, our man loves to encounter a hater, and apparently finds his only true motivation in the resulting spite. On the court, that manifests in dazzling bursts of dominance after someone’s shit talk gets a little out of pocket or a cheap shot goes a little far. One might hope that such stimuli wouldn’t be necessary in order for a person who has been cast and paid as a 1A NBA superstar to do their best, but here in our wretched little Kingdom we peasants take what we can get. Off the court, he’s niche-notorious for name-searching himself online and picking petty squabbles with the unwashed masses who dare to criticize him. He’s not what you’d call enthusiastic about his adoring public, and they can tell.

And so we come to the news of the day: online bullshit piled upon online bullshit, just like most days. Fox, you see, unfollowed Domantas Sabonis on Instagram, and some intrepid gumshoe made the connection and posted about it, and people are asking questions, and aren’t we all having ourselves a nice Real Housewives experience with that information. But then came the kicker: Fox decided to weigh in. He descended into the comments to explain, in his typical 60% condescending tone rife with I’m-not-mad laughing emojis, that sometimes you just don’t need to follow your old coworkers anymore, because you’re not close, and it doesn’t matter, and who cares. Then he deleted the comments, because of course he did, because why on earth would he post them in the first place? A tiny, almost imperceptible non-story that would have vanished into internet ephemera in seconds was instead inflamed into further proof that this guy is a mercenary asshole who never really loved you like that. All of it was goofy, and all of it was preventable.

Fox has always been, shall we say, prickly. Maybe even a little haughty. He’s surprisingly thin-skinned for a guy so committed to a studiously-cultivated pretense of being above it all. Fans, who hang on every word, every detail, every sign, signal, and omen, pick up on that, and over time many have come to resent it. This is as understandable as Fox’s introverted ambivalence about constantly being on display in the first place. The fact that Fox looked around and determined that his relationship with this franchise had outlived its usefulness to him is something with which most fans, I think, can sympathize. All things being equal, nobody would choose to work for Vivek. But his manner of leaving, and his decision to engage the needling and wheedling of the sour-grapes subset of the fanbase on his way out instead of taking the graceful high road, will create a permanent bitter edge to the sweeter memories of his time here for some. C’est la vie.

And now we denizens of Elon’s hellhole find ourselves immersed in the tut-tutting of Fox’s defenders and personality cultists as it crashes into the unhinged, anarchic, possibly Gamergate-infused berserker attacks of Fox’s lunatic haters, creating a dizzying cacophony. Much like the trade saga that ended up carrying him out of town, none of it ever really made that much sense. The entire De’Aaron Fox experience seems to have left Kings fans in a position similar to J.K. Simmons’s CIA supervisor as he speaks to his subordinate at the end of the Coen Brothers’ Burn After Reading:

Supervisor: What did we learn, Palmer?
Officer: I don’t know, sir.
Supervisor: I don’t fuckin’ know either. I guess we learned not to do it again.
Officer: Yes, sir.
Supervisor: I’m fucked if I know what we did.
Officer: Yes, sir. It’s, uh, hard to say.

And so it goes, Kings fans. And so it goes.

 

Ty Foster has somehow managed uninterrupted Sacramento Kings fandom for the past 30+ years. He has been a fan and avid lurker of Sactown Royalty/The Kings Herald for about 20 of those. He hosts a podcast with his best friend Duncan Smith called The Purple & Black Pill, which can be found here: The Purple & Black Pill Podcast – Apple Podcasts

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Sirthomasedward
February 17, 2025 7:14 pm

Great article. Been a fan of the kings for a long time and a fan of Fox too. I am still a fan of both, although I always had the following thought in my mind. “Is Fox really the leader this organization or team needed?” Furthermore there is an overwhelmingly alarming trend in sports to equate talent with leadership. This seems to be sports wide.

What I mean is it oftentimes feels like a foregone conclusion that the most talented players should also inherently be the greatest leaders both off and on the court in this case. Maybe that was never true here with Fox. I have no ill will or anger towards him, but I never got the sense he really relished the alpha dog role when not on the court.

Of course I could be totally wrong and the lack of effective leadership from Vivek down maybe stifled his ability or desire to lead and he was looking for a way out for a while, I don’t know. What I do know is. That I hope he finds that joy and leadership in San Antonio and someone comes along in Sacramento that can rise above the noise and dysfunction and truly lead this team.

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February 17, 2025 9:31 pm

I agree that Fox was not the leader and did not desire to be the leader. Fox is going to be better off behind Wemby.

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February 18, 2025 8:24 am
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Fox is a 1A or a B…which is perfectly fine.

DannyG
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February 18, 2025 8:34 am
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San Antonio, a real basketball organization, put him at the two with Paul as the floor leader. It is working out just fine. Fox is a score first player. Not a ball distributor. Not the leader of the team. Not a coach on the floor.

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February 18, 2025 8:37 am
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Yep, an adult organization making simple, obvious decisions unlike the Kangz.

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February 19, 2025 8:17 pm
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Kangz got Monk to play the floor leader while Fox was moping.

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February 18, 2025 10:30 am
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working out just fine? they are 2-3 and not vs the hardest schedule lol

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February 18, 2025 11:30 am
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Fox stats are the same there as they were here. Point guard or a shooting guard he is the same.

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February 18, 2025 12:00 pm
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Yeah absolutely. I watched a couple games and wemby was fatigued in those games and haven’t played well. They are going to go on a massive win streak and most likely pass us up after the All Star break. Don’t be the bitter ex

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February 17, 2025 8:08 pm

Very entertaining article! Very vivid and accurate descriptions of the weird shit that’s surrounded the Fox exit. And as the article mentions, there’s no shortage of weird shit going on when Vivek is involved. What this organization can’t provide in terms of on-court quality it seems to try to make up for in off-court drama. This is more of a living soap opera at this point than a basketball team.

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February 17, 2025 8:09 pm

Damn. That was a wonderful, well written, all sides accounted for, article!

kingofjapan
February 17, 2025 8:24 pm

Hell of an article, purpleblackpill!

I’ve said it before and will say it again. I am awestruck by the quality of writing from both our TKH heroes and the commenters alike. I think you all know — this is like no other blog out there, in any sport.

We are undoubtedly cursed in the way that matters most (brutal incompetence at the ownership level). And yet, we have a consolation in TKH that is a rare gift indeed. From 6,000 miles away from my homeland Sacramento, I appreciate this.

As far as the Fox trade goes, the dude wanted out. I’m not thrilled with the take from the trade, and the process was nonsensical beyond belief. We got played… again. But it is better, far better, than waiting and getting nothing.

I don’t think our cupboard is bare, and while we are a fringe team right now, we do have a shot to move up in the world — something that could not be said for most of the past two decades. I’m not super-optimistic, especially since Monte continually refuses to balance the roster. But we are “in the middle” with a ton of other teams. So… it’s not impossible. It just depends on what we do now. At least that is interesting and fun to consider.

Dustysfgiants
February 17, 2025 8:42 pm

Really well written article and such a great synopsis of the situation and how many/most of us feel. Many thanks for sharing. Love what he did for this franchise, but it’s hard not to agree that as talented as Fox is and the great memories he has provided, he would never be the leader of a conference champion let alone an NBA champion Sacramento Kings team. He won’t be leading the Spurs to a championship either, in my opinion.

The only other weird thing not mentioned in this article, is his obsession with the big money. His advice to Monk was “to go for the big contract because it’s a business” and Vince Carter apparently told him you have to go for money when you can. But, honestly, how much frickn money does a guy need? He’s already got multigenerational wealth. So glad that Monk and Domantas didn’t have the same attitude, wanting their big pay days but not necessarily the absolute biggest contract they could have received by signing with another team. That makes them so much more likable and easy to root for as a Kings fan. Sacramento has a bit of an inferiority complex, but there aren’t many fan bases as passionate and loyal to “their guys.”

Thanks again for this excellent piece.

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February 18, 2025 8:26 am
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He won’t be leading the Spurs to a championship either, in my opinion.

Of course he won’t, Wemby will. But Fox will likely be the 2nd or 3rd best player on that championship(s) team, while we continue being mired in mediocrity thanks to Vivek.

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February 18, 2025 11:54 am
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I love when fans talk about NBA players having enough money lol they live different lifestyles and money can dry up fast. none of us will turn down money.

Monk did not have that many suitors lol 

If it was about money with fox, fox would have stayed. It’s obvious bridges were burnt by the kings

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February 17, 2025 8:53 pm

Glad I’m not on social media and don’t waste any of my valuable time on this useless blather. Too bad, I loved Fox as a player and leader of this team. I’ll still root for him, but we move on. It’s just NBA basketball, a form of entertainment, that’s all.

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February 18, 2025 8:27 am

Social media is the cesspool of modern technological civilization.

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February 18, 2025 6:27 pm

Sort of I’d argue pro teams mean more to cities than just entertainment. It does have an effect one the populace.

A bad owner and team doing stupid things/going nowhere messes with a city, and not just financially.

I’ve seen it in DC. Moral, $ is all different now that Snyder is gone and team has hope.

Yes, you may see it as just entertainment but it’s more than that to many.

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February 19, 2025 8:02 am
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Yes, you may see it as just entertainment but it’s more than that to many.

That’s fair and accurate, and I agree. However…

Expectations are a bitch.

I’m a third generation Eagles fan and I can say with full confidence the Eagles FO is INCREDIBLY competent. I see something like that, what it looks like to nail your moves year-after-year, and it just makes me look at the Kings and check my expectations at the door.

So I go to a few games, I watch many more, and I *try* to have a good time. I will admit though, the broadcast team talking over plays over-and-over is making it increasingly difficult to enjoy anything.

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February 17, 2025 9:29 pm

Enjoyed reading this opinion of the Fox situationship and how it ended. I do not agree with all of what was said but I do appreciate the opinion and it being shared here. It is also extremely refreshing to see comments on this article that are not from the same people saying the same thing. Great to see some variety here.

Most importantly Fox is gone. This team is not worse than it was with Fox. In many ways the team might actually improve now.

Fox did what he did. The Kings did what they did. It is done. Time to be in the present and look forward to improvement.

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February 17, 2025 10:04 pm

I wish Fox nothing but the best.

I wish the Kings were under new ownership.

I wish.

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February 18, 2025 7:33 am
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You can wish in one hand and….well, you know the rest.

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February 18, 2025 8:28 am
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Would Vivek handing off the day to day owner reigns (meddling) to Anjali be enough of an ownership change? At this point, that’s all we could really hope for.

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February 18, 2025 6:23 pm
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How? How can we get rid of the little shit? Or convince him to do a Dolan and back off.

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February 17, 2025 11:58 pm
  • De’Aaron Fox arrived as a result of a Vlade Divac trade mess – 4 months into his new GM tenure in 2015, The Kings traded Nik Stauskas, Jason Thompson, and Carl Landry’s contracts to the 76ers 
  • The Kings received the right to swap first-round picks with the 76ers in 2016 and 2017

In the 2017 NBA draft, A Swap-apolooza took place as Sacramento had lottery luck and moved from 8th position to 3rd! The Kings swapped spots with the Sixers who were at 5. The Sixers swapped spots with number 1 Boston. Markelle Fultz went Top of the Class, Jayson Tatum was wrapped in Celtic green at 3 and Sacramento had De’Aaron Fox who was selected and then jerseyed at number 5. (and thankfully, not Justin Jackson who went 4th)

De’Aaron arrived fresh faced and bushy tailed, ready to take on the World. Happy, energetic and smiling, he was a welcome counter to the sourpuss Boogie Cousins that had represented the team until the February prior to his draft.

To me, De’Aaron Fox was a great King to Sacramento. He gave it his all, whether you liked his All or not. He shared his life, with a charming bride, Recee, and young family. As players have come and gone, He had felt more connected here in SacTown than any of the others.

And it wasn’t enough. He status was both praised and dismissed as this team finally climbed and now has stalled, where their current record is cruising, not gaining altitude. We don’t know what was behind the scenes of the departure- for me, it’s easier to point the bigger blame on the folks that have had their heads up their collective asses that captain this ship than the star player who gave us nearly 8 of the best seasons a Sacramento King draft pick ever has.

After the dust has settled, I expect many will tip our hat to the Fantastic Mr. Fox and wish this organization had found a way to keep him here, surrounded by a long term coach and front office and a collection of teammates that competed for playoff glory season after season.

De’Aaron has moved on, and that’s not easy. If his media presence stumbles a bit on his new path, so be it. We fans will move on as well.

I’ll cheer him when he returns. Happy Trails to you, FoxForceFive, De’Aaron Fox.

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February 18, 2025 12:16 am

Great post!

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February 18, 2025 2:23 am

That 2015 trade to Sixers was sickening. It could’ve look a lot worst lol

If the Kings have done no trading what so ever since 2015. I think they would’ve been a lot better off right now.

In a karmic bizarro fantasy world…
Divac don’t make that stupid trade. Kings draft Tatum 2017. Divas wouldn’t have a stupid excuse of taking the balls out of Fox’s hand and draft Luka 2018. Then 2025, we go and trade Luka for AD and Tatum for Kawhi Leonard. Because we’re the Kings, that’s what we do. They ain’t like us.

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February 18, 2025 11:54 am

And what if Vlade had used the #10 pick on Bam Adebayo instead of trading it away for the two later picks that he used on Justin Jackson and Harry Giles?

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February 18, 2025 12:35 pm
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Let’s take it a different direction:
If Monte McNair was the GM ?

I would think he would have taken Donovan Mitchell at 5 (he was 20.8 yrs old and the first 11 picks were all freshman. Luke Kennard at #12, was a Sophomore as was #13, Spida Mitchell). He wouldn’t have traded the #10 pick for #15 and #20. He likely would have sold it to offload Kosta Koufos. The Kings had the #34 pick in this draft and there wouldn’t have been any changes there. Frank Mason III, the 6’0″ Senior out of Kansas would have certainly been his selection as well.

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February 19, 2025 10:00 pm

all guards, that sounds about right…

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February 18, 2025 8:31 am

Speaking of pick swaps, that 2031 swap owed to the Spurs could be really bad, how we didn’t retain it in the Fox trade is beyond me. The blow is lessened I suppose by obtaining the Minny 2031 swap.

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February 18, 2025 12:16 pm
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Can’t have Kings get both number 1 and 2 overall pick of the 2031 draft now…

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February 18, 2025 10:32 am

What are you complaining about? Markelle Fultz is on the team now.

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February 18, 2025 11:47 am

Fantastic post. This reminds me of the classic quote from the movie Cocktail: “Everything ends badly or else it wouldn’t end”

Obviously that is not always true, but it does apply in situations like this. At the end Fox didn’t seem to be giving 100% and the social media spats have given some ammo to fans already frustrated with him.

But Fox came into a messy organization with a dysfunctional FO. He went through multiple coaches, some good and some very very overwhelmed. He had coaches who were not on the same page as the front office. He kept a great attitude and gave 100% to this city and team through a myriad of losing season before things started to turn around.

Regardless of the ending, I 100% appreciate everything Fox did for this city and respect that after 7.5 years here he was ready to move on for the next phase in his career.

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February 18, 2025 6:08 am

On the one hand, what a nice article. Thanks.

On the other hand, it doesn’t really matter. It’s not going to make anybody feel better.

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February 18, 2025 7:45 am

Last night I dreamt that while the Kings were in the midst of another 20-year playoff drought, I was happily watching the Spurs as my backup team.

Nothing will change until Vivek is gone.

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February 18, 2025 8:03 am

Kings fans: “Our ownership stinks and is totally dysfunctional.”

(Fox gets traded)

Fox: “Kings are dysfunctional.”

Kings fans: “Screw Fox.”

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February 18, 2025 8:36 am
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I don’t think most King’s fan’s dislike Fox, it’s more of a whatever or meh. He certainly could have handled the situation better, but it is what it is. It’s on the FO that they didn’t get more in the trade in terms of juicy assets (ATL or SAS 2025 FRP, 2031 pick swap back). The FO holding out for a slightly better return would have made the Fox trade look amazing.
Ultimately, when it comes to fan disastisfaction, all roads lead back to Vivek and as an extension MM.

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February 18, 2025 9:12 am
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I like to keep it simple.

He probably bit his tongue about his employer’s dysfunction until he was traded, and then the filter was removed.

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February 18, 2025 9:30 am
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I also like to keep it simple.

I don’t blame him for his potshots, I don’t respect him for it either.

It would likely have been better and certainly more classy if he hadn’t removed the filter.

In any event, it makes his recent statements that he never asked to be traded and didn’t rule out resigning with the Kings sound a bit hollow to me.

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February 18, 2025 12:15 pm
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I agree with what’s Fox is saying now, makes him sound like he’s just spouting BS.

It would’ve been awesome on Fox’s part if he had said the Kings organization are dysfunctional while he was still with the Kings. Instead he’s on greener pasture and now throwing salt at the Kings. I know he’s not targeting Kings fan but yeah, it’s whatever. Sigh

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February 18, 2025 9:43 am
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Kings fans: “Our ownership stinks and is totally dysfunctional.”

(Fox gets traded)

Fox: “Kings are dysfunctional.”

Kings fans: “Screw Fox.”

So much this. I don’t get this idea that when things are bad, the classy thing to do is to shut up about it. I get not throwing the Kings under the bus while playing for the Kings, but if they don’t want Fox talking about their dysfunction, then don’t be dysfunctional.

And like Marty said here, we all acknowledge things are a mess with the Kings, but God forbid Fox actually say it out loud. It seems like this “I agree with you, but you’re not allowed to say it,” which, certainly context matters, but is otherwise 1+1=3.

I’m more along the lines of “Please do say it.” Maybe shining some light on it will help it change.

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February 18, 2025 9:54 am
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 I don’t get this idea that when things are bad, the classy thing to do is to shut up about it.

Yea, I’m not hard-wired to sugar-coat problems. In my personal life I’ve said many times, “I’m not afraid of tough conversations.” I suppose decades of Philly media consumption plays a factor here. I actually would respect Fox more if he simply said, “The front office dysfunction is the primary reason why I wanted to leave.”

I also always side with players who try to strong-arm themselves to better situations. The Jimmy Butler thing, prickly for sure, is not something I have a problem with AT ALL. Dude did what he could to advance his career.

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February 18, 2025 9:59 am
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I feel the same. And I always side with the non-billionaires when billionaires are the other choice.

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February 18, 2025 11:31 am
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Yes and yes.
1- Vivek is a piece of shit. Terrible owner

2- Fox got out. Good for him

3-Vivek, please leave. It’s the only way this team ever rights the ship

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February 18, 2025 8:23 am

Excellently written article…keep writing on this site!
And kudos on the purpleblackpill username, as someone who subsribes a bit to the blackpill itself, I love it.

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February 18, 2025 8:54 am

I’ve thought about this a bunch over the past month or so, as the outcome of the situation became inevitable, and through all the words of the pundits and the fans and the player, I think I’ve to come to what is (for me) a pretty simple, straightforward conclusion.

In world of sport where fans demand that a player gives everything they have to give, DeAaron Fox gave everything he wanted to give.

And it’s the gap between those two things where the schism lies that so many are struggling with.

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February 18, 2025 11:02 pm

Look forward to many posts and articles from you. You give all lurkers like myself and others hope and inspiration!

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February 20, 2025 1:58 pm

Pookey a.k.a pookeyguru changed his name back yo Kingsguru awhile back after multiple stabbings (longtime STR folks will understand this non-violent reference).

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February 20, 2025 4:09 pm

Us long time lurkers who never post have got to stick together. Thanks for the effort and the article, and I look forward to more. And, I’m already subscribed to your podcast.

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February 18, 2025 10:30 am

Interesting column. My sources for King’s info are King’s Herald, the occasional article in the Athletic, the Sacramento Bee, SacTown sports and Katie, Kyle, Morgan, Deuce et al before and after Kings games, so I didn’t have this personality take on Fox. Very few players play their whole career with one team. I was living in Lawrence, Kansas when Joe Montana led the Chiefs to their only AFC title game between Len Dawson and Patrick Mahomes. Kobe and Steph stayed with one team, but LeBron, Shaq, KD, now Luka have moved around. Fox is no different.

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February 18, 2025 10:31 am

While it sucks that Fox isn’t still here, in my opinion, I still respect the guy and wear his shoes. (Love the blue and orange!) Whether they still play on my team or not, there are still players I like on other teams – HB, Davion, and Fox are still guys I like to keep an eye on, even outside the black and purple. (KH – I wish you well, but I am glad that a portion of the Kangz’ yips have left Sac.)

One thing to keep in mind – you and I as fans aren’t the organization. I really don’t think that Fox has any beef with Sacramento as a city, or the Sacramento fans. I think it’s important to make the distinction. Even as fans, we criticize and take potshots at our organizations – even the players at times. But this is turning into an “only we, the true SacTown fanbase, can criticize our team” kind of deal. Let’s focus on why we enjoy this sport, rather than let one of our former players irritate us by saying what we Kings’ fans have been saying fairly regularly ourselves.

Hats off to you De’Aaron Fox. You and the type of ball you and the other guys ran at the genesis of the Beam Team totally hyped me for NBA basketball in a way that I hadn’t felt since Webber went down back in 2003. I will always be grateful for that.

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February 18, 2025 1:23 pm
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From my personal perspective, it’s not only ok for people formerly involved with the team to make fair criticisms of it, it’s a good thing for as many people as possible to draw attention to these management problems. Former team employees carry a level of credibility, especially when so many of them say the same thing.

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February 18, 2025 6:20 pm
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100. Horrible treatment by owners/rich folk needs to be called out. Always and often.

This is not an employee or Fox problem. This is like what’s going on in this country, somehow the billionaires have gotten people to believe that the employees are the problem.

Fox, Malone, all of them should be railing against Vivek and his horrible treatment….the way shit is run….always and forever.

That way, maybe the owner will get enough heat one day to have to leave or back off. Though I doubt it.

I just don’t understand how people can side with the fucked up organization and rich owner. Ridiculous.

Employee treated like shit. Employee calls out ownership. Employee is wrong? I don’t think so

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February 18, 2025 10:13 pm
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just don’t understand how people can side with the fucked up organization and rich owner. Ridiculous.

And yet, we are still here, following this organization, watching the game, cheering for the team to win or tank or whatever.

People find all sort of justifications or reasons or excuses to keep supporting the team, even when they know the organization is rotten and leadership is crap.

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February 18, 2025 11:43 pm
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People find all sort of justifications or reasons or excuses to keep supporting the team, even when they know the organization is rotten and leadership is crap.

Speaking for myself again but I feel like the team belongs to the fans, not to whoever the “owner” happens to be. The owner may have the top-level responsibility of managing team resources, including personnel, but he should be doing it on behalf of the fans. Even if the owner is failing to properly manage the team, it’s still our (fans’) team, and we still feel our affection for it, but we also have the right to call out and complain about the owner’s crappiness.

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February 19, 2025 12:16 pm
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Totally agree. I just think that the fans shouldn’t take it as “Fox is attacking us” and more that “Fox is being more vocal about the Kings’ organization/front office”. A lot of the responses to Fox’s comments seem to feel like they’re personally offended by Fox, rather than taking them as comments about the organization.

The whole Instagram thing aside – which to me doesn’t really mean a whole heck of a lot – Fox hasn’t said anything disparaging against the Kings’ team. He was reasonably upset that Brown was fired and how he was fired (a front office move) and the lack of support in the roster construction (a front office issue). Whether or not he had problems with people on the team, he hasn’t really said, and that’s a good thing.

Until Fox comes out and says something about Sacramento (the city) or Sacramento’s fans, I’m going to continue to keep an eye on Fox and hope he does well, except when he’s on the visitors’ bench. We are fans of this team. We are not the organization, nor do we need to be fans of the organization to be fans of the team. Sacramento has some of the best fans in the NBA, if not the world. Let’s keep it that way!

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February 19, 2025 1:50 pm
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Well said!

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February 18, 2025 1:55 pm

I don’t do social media, so I didn’t know until the trade went down just how, erm, “prolific” and “open” Fox is on Twitter/X, etc. After seeing some of his posts, it’s small wonder McNair didn’t feel the need to max-extend the guy. What a piss-poor, low-road, teen-whiny kind of [social media] attitude he shows online. The man is 27 years old with a family. There’s something to be said for acting like the traditional definition of “a professional” if you’re the supposed face of a multi-billion dollar enterprise. Athletes are human and are allowed to show their colors. In turn, teams and fans are allowed to judge them by what they show and react accordingly. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I lost a lot of respect for Fox when I saw his online activity, and I can’t say I’ll miss him.

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February 18, 2025 2:48 pm
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The Kings offered to Max extend De’Aaron last Summer. He declined the offer and decided to wait and see if he could qualify for a SuperMax, which would necessitate him acquiring All-NBA status or Defensive Player of the Year*. As this season progressed, we saw both indications of the possibility of All-NBA status (60 point game, 109 in 24 hours) and the futility of that pursuit (13-19 team record which was brought up to .500).

The only team that could offer the SuperMax would have been Sacramento. As that possibility ebbed away, along with the Mike Brown firing and other issues, so did his desire to remain with the Kings franchise (IMO).

*Hey – why are the awards always “Of The Year” and not “Of The Season”? It doesn’t follow the calendar, so why not make it more accurate?

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February 18, 2025 2:56 pm

I think the Brown firing was the first step of the Franchise pivoting from trying to keep Fox to trying to keep Sabonis.

I think this is why they didn’t bother correcting the blame being placed on Fox. They were happy to have that fall on him, since they were looking to move him anyway.

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February 19, 2025 12:56 am
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I don’t know if there’s any rhyme or reason to what they do. I suspect/fear that the major decisions they make, including the Brown firing, are just Vivek’s latest impulses.

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February 19, 2025 5:50 am
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Hmmm do you know the same popcorn vendor haha.

gonna be amazing to see this move be the most Kangz move yet, picking the wrong horse to back who’s also halfway out the door.

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February 18, 2025 6:14 pm
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Acting like a professional? You mean the way Vivek acted…like a complete unprofessional asshat?

The owner deserves your ire.

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February 19, 2025 4:10 am
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Amonk81, I agree, Vivek Randivé does not seem to be a good owner, but the number of times you call him a “shitty person”, “asshat”, … in your comments on this thread and on others is tedious. Someone else gently raised your repetitive verbal abuse in another thread already. You seem to have a lot of ongoing anger about Ranadivé, but taking it out this way on the site spreads bad energy (and does not seem to get you over it). Could perhaps you (or the site moderators) moderate those comments?

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February 18, 2025 6:31 pm
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After seeing some of his posts, it’s small wonder McNair didn’t feel the need to max-extend the guy.

Translation; Shut up and dribble.

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February 18, 2025 6:16 pm

I was digging the article until you brought politics into it .. come to TKH do get away from that crap…

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February 18, 2025 8:16 pm
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Where was the politics?

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February 19, 2025 6:53 am
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i am glad you asked because I went back and reread and believe I am mistaken , I originally took the statement

And now we denizens of Elon’s hellhole find ourselves immersed in the tut-tutting of Fox’s defenders and personality cultists as it crashes into the unhinged, anarchic, possibly Gamergate-infused berserker attacks of Fox’s lunatic haters, creating a dizzying cacophony.

as commentary about DOGE and when I reread it with a clearer mind it most likely refers to the craziness that of X

I had just left a crazy long rabbit hole of social media where I watched people on both sides of the aisle come up with the most comical, crazy stuff, defending or supporting, and had to get away from it, so when I read it, my mind went to politics.

I will issue an apology!

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February 18, 2025 8:55 pm
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Sports has always been a great escape and community passion. Too bad when that stuff seeps in.

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February 18, 2025 9:08 pm

appreciate the fan post. Not getting overly worked up about this. After all, it’s juxtaposition. jk. Looking forward to watching hoops soon.

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February 19, 2025 4:49 am

Hi Gang: I don’t post on here very often because of a physical problem, but I read all the posts, and I enjoy your thoughts on everything. The one thing I have to say about the whole Fox debacle is that it’s true Kings have Owners that are screwed up, but Fox blew the whole thing by not signing his Max Deal last year when it was presented to him. He’s not a Super Max Player. He proved to to himself, and the rest of us that this was true. He then became testy about what was being said about him, and forced his way out of town. I wish him the best, except when he plays us. I’m not sure how the rest of the season goes, but Doug Christie has his hands full, and some hard decisions to make. One or two of DeRoazan , Monk, and Lavine must find their was to the 2nd unit, and Keon must start, How DC does this will be essential for the Kings going forward. I love DC as a person, but does he have the guts and savvy to pull the string on some of these moves. We are getting killed to start games because we have so many bad, and I mean bad defensive players on the court to start the game. This must change, or there is no chance of this team being successful.

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February 19, 2025 6:57 am
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Fox had no reason to sign the three-year $165 million extension that the Kings offered him last summer. He (and the Kings) knew that by waiting till the end of this season he would qualify for a four-year $229 million extension even if he didn’t attain supermax status. Supermax would have qualified him for a five-year $345 million extension.

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February 19, 2025 7:02 am

Ty Foster a.k.a purpleblackpill
I owe you an apology, I made the statement about it being a great article or I was into it until the political comment. I went and reread it thanks to Adamsite and realized that I was mistaken, or I’m pretty sure I was mistaken unless you were doing a double entendre. I miss took your denizens of Elons hell hole as a political statement. And I now recognize that I believe you were referring to the hell hole of what X (Twitter) can be.

I realize that my mindset was skewed because of some rabbit holes I had gone down right before escaping them to come read my favorite sports blog. I allowed my mindset to cloud my interpretation and I am sorry for that. It was an incredibly well written article and thank you for the contribution and I am sorry.

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February 19, 2025 10:27 am

OT: I believe Daishen Nix’s 10 day contract is up either today or tomorrow. The Kings will need to sign him again or someone else to maintain the minimum 14 man roster.

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February 19, 2025 6:40 pm
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Per CBS Sports:

Nix became a free agent Tuesday after his 10-day contract with the Kings expired, Keith Smith of Spotrac.com reports.

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February 19, 2025 8:39 pm
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So the Kings are at 13. Do they get another 2 weeks to fill that spot? That would seem like some rule skirting tactic.

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February 19, 2025 9:14 pm
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Looks like they do have another two weeks. Here’s what I found:

During the regular season, a club isn’t permitted to carry fewer than 14 players on standard contracts for more than two weeks at a time — or more than 28 total days.

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February 20, 2025 12:42 pm
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Isaac Jones or…? Boogie Ellis…?

Mo Bamba, Robin Lopez, James Wiseman, Thad Young, Robert Covington, Reggie Bullock, TJ Warren, Jalen Hood-Schifino, Reggie Jackson, Dennis Smith, Jr. …. Isaiah Thomas ?

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February 19, 2025 1:31 pm

Good quality writing here, Fox was fun and his strange exit will be forgotten in the long-run. Cousins set the bar very low for me, I couldn’t stand him. Even though he probably wasn’t that bad. Fox was somewhere in the middle, a mix of strengths and weaknesses like most. His shooting and overall performance never sold me on him as a superstar but he still has the next 5 years of his prime to become one so he still has the potential. Sucks to see him go but it’s hard to keep a player around when all you have to show is one playoff appearance, his wanting to leave and win is understandable. Fox had a classy side and a petty side for sure and I never minded that about him. It just wasn’t meant to be for Fox and the Kings to have much success together, forcing a longer union would have been a mistake. All the animosity comes from losing, we Kings fans are sick of it and Fox got sick of it too. Fox is a top 5 all-time Sac era King for sure, grateful he stuck around as long as he did, and he wanted to win for the fans here.

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February 19, 2025 9:53 pm

Well said and good read.
You put a lot more nuance to what I would call a dude who’s kinda petty. I still like him, no doubt and I’ll talk very little ill about him, much the same as Kevin Durant. Their talent is undisputed and they’re very likeable humans. They are also very human, and have faults just like everyone else; they’re not aliens or gods no matter how many pedestals we put them on. If being petty is where the elevator gets off in terms of personal issues, I’ll take that vs the “threaten a ref / punch a teammate in practice” no matter how “passionate” or not a player may be.
Speaking of, one thing Fox and Demarcus had, in very different degrees, is a bit of a lack of accountability. Fox doesn’t like to have to be held accountable to his faults, especially when it had to do with his occasional lackluster play or milquetoast leadership style. To the point of just towing the NBA staples “we’ll study the tape, go out there with more effort” were painful to him. And that’s the difference between him and KD. Well, that and a championship. I’d love it if Vivek made it a personal vendetta to get a championship before De’Aaron. Maybe there’s a path to redemption for Ranadive after all.

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February 20, 2025 10:01 am

OT: Wemby missing the rest of the season.

Wemby to miss the rest of the season.

MarcJSpears (@marcjspears.bsky.social) 2025-02-20T17:47:24.908Z

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February 20, 2025 10:57 am
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I wonder if the Spurs will encourage Fox to have surgery on his finger before the end of the season as well.

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February 20, 2025 11:58 am
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That’s what a competent organization would do. There is no reason for him to continue playing.

An aside, this would have opened up another All-NBA spot had the Fox trade not occurred. Wemby will also be ineligible for DPOY. How ironic would it be if Fox continues to play and is given the green light in San Antonio to put up inflated numbers that still lands him All-NBA. Only now he doesn’t qualify for the Super Max. This should, however get Sabonis an All-NBA selection.

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February 20, 2025 1:11 pm
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Even if the All-Star snub, Domas probably has a good chance to make an All-NBA team. He made the second team last year despite not making the All-Star team.

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February 20, 2025 12:32 pm
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I think they will.

It’s like David Robinson sitting out so they could win the Tim Duncan sweepstakes.

SAS trying to capture the Flagg

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February 20, 2025 10:21 am

Wemby out for the rest of the season…might be a sign of big men collapse, unprotected spurs pick baby…unprotected is unprotected

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February 20, 2025 10:56 am
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These blood cloths are serious, dangerous things, no joke.

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Upper Extremity or UEDVT is fairly out of the ordinary (most lower extremity). The treatment is anti-coagulants. I don’t know how he eliminates that therapy for the both the short and long term.

(I’m not an expert on DVT, but I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express)

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February 20, 2025 3:11 pm
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That’s my point, isn’t it what ended Bosh’s career?

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February 20, 2025 3:41 pm
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The 2031 pick we got in the Fox trade is Minnesota’s first rounder, so not affected by Wemby’s situation.

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February 20, 2025 5:29 pm
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Kings own the Spurs 2027 pick.

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Yikes! There’s been so much talk about the 2031 pick being the only one of significant value that I totally dismissed any thought about the others. Good thing I have my annual wellness check coming up next week! Let’s see, that’s person, man, woman, camera, tv…

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February 20, 2025 2:24 pm

Ok, I have bitten my tongue multiple times already that it is about to fall off. I came out of lurking since the STR Tyreke Evans era after this Fox fiasco. Not even DMC’s antics pulled me out of the shadows to post, but, my eye test and limited NBA rumors opinion think that this move by Fox was started immediately after the 1st round exit.

Since he was drafted, Fox has been giving it his best to try to bring the team up to the playoffs, culminating in that Beam season. That was HIS season, where he gave it his all and really played his strengths i.e. driving to the basket, change pace, foul-bait, spray for threes, etc. After the Kings lost, he may have started to think “Hey, maybe I can be a super-max player, if things get better in the 23-24 season. But we need more help.” But Monte runs it back and does not improve the roster, and so Fox adjusts and decides not to jeopardize his future with injuries that could lower max level contracts here or somewhere else, so he starts to pull back from driving to the lane and starts to jack 3s to avoid contact. He also bets on himself and denies contract extensions this past summer hoping an improved roster (DDR?) might elevate him to supermax status. He gets more cautious driving to the rim because…you know, injuries and thinks 3s will bail him out, even if he goes 0-11 in a game. The Kings have a shitty record by December and he and Rich Paul think that he will never be All-NBA and decide for a change of scenery. For the record, Rich Paul admitted as much that Fox needed a change of scenery and it was time to move on. Kings FO go on the offensive and so Brown gets fired, throws shades at Fox, and that was the death knell.

And now comes the veiled (or not so veiled shots) at the Kings from a former player who parted not so graciously with his former team. I don’t hate Fox…I was a fan of his while HE WAS A KING, but the moment he stopped wearing Sac on the front of his jersey, thats where my fandom ended. I am a Kings fan for life, of the team, and its players, current and former, especially those who don’t burn bridges with the team.

Sorry for the long post, but that was 16 years of contained frustration. And I haven’t even talked about the FO.

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February 20, 2025 2:47 pm
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Thank you for letting out the ghost of Kangzmas past and weighing in. Hope your tongue heals up swiftly. Take a swig of this truth serum and stay clear of the Kool Aid brother.

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February 20, 2025 3:03 pm

At this point, I’m over it. Loved Fox’ talent but he didn’t want to be here. Got a decent return. Not exceptional but acceptable. Move in. My concern now is that we limp into the 9-10 spot, lose in the play-in, then lose our draft pick. The pick we gave up to get Huerter who’s no longer here.

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February 20, 2025 3:22 pm
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This is where I’m at too. Hope we can go on a run and land in the the 6-8 range and at least get a playoff series to offset the loss of the pick, but feel like your scenario is more likely.

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February 20, 2025 9:45 pm

I’m not even going to get into the comments. Good article, well written. I will say this…

Unfollowing Sabonis on social media was a dick move and stupid if your name is Fox. He did that. It was dumb to do. Period.

It wasn’t necessary and he knew it would stir up some shit. He is bringing all the drama onto himself for no reason. He is making decisions to alienate fans intentionally. For what? Why? You’re that dumb? Apparently he is indeed that dumb. I thought Fox was mature and smart. Clearly I was wrong. Actions speak, as do words. I’m still sad Fox is no longer a King. I am also disappointed that he’s handling his departure like 9 year old. It’s a bummer to see him tarnish his legacy here in Sacramento. I will always be a fan of Fox and appreciate what he did here but my god man…

Put your phone down and grow the F up!

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February 21, 2025 7:43 am

Nice article. You captured it well. Maybe too much to expect, but I had hoped that Fox would have handled the business side of this better. He leverage his way out of Sacramento and kicked his fellow teammates and fans in the balls as he left. How he did it gave his new team maximum leverage to limit what they had to give up in players and picks to get him. Give Fox, Klutch and the Spurs credit/blame. With Fox’s help they pulled off a masterful transaction that will help their franchise for any years. Call me naive, but if Fox had played it differently and involved a couple other teams in this, his teammates, fans and Fox would look back on this experience and his time here more favorably.

All his odd conduct with the Barling and CD damage control/spin interviews and the stuff on social media would likely not have happenend if he handled the business side of this better. As for Fox, I’ll be at the game in a couple weeks when he is back. No standing ovation from me, but no Buddy Hield, Spencer Hawes or Jason Terry treatment either.

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