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Breaking down the latest Kings draft and free agency news and rumors with Jerry Reynolds | TKHS Episode 19

We've got Kings draft rumors, Kings free agency rumors, non-Kings playoff talk, and more on this weeks episode of The Kings Herald Show!

The Kings Herald Show is back to break down all the latest news and rumors heading into draft and free agency season for your Sacramento Kings. On the podcast this week, Jerry Reynolds, Will Griffith, and Tony Xypteras talk about how the Kings are conducting pre-draft workouts, who they might select on draft night, Terence Davis' contract negotiations, and more!

 

Timestamps:
  • (1:20) Why are the Kings being so secretive about their pre-draft workouts this year?
  • (9:30) Draft rumors and draft promises.
  • (16:40) If the Kings trade their first round draft pick, are any of the reportedly available players a good fit?
  • (30:25) Terence Davis is a restricted free agent and wants to get paid this summer. Should the Kings bring him back?
  • (34:45) NBA Finals analysis and predictions.
  • (49:00) Team USA’s struggles and Olympic basketball talk.
  • (57:45) Early prediction: Assuming nobody unexpected slides, who will the Kings select 9th overall in the 2021 NBA Draft?

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Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
July 13, 2021 4:52 pm

I heard “willing to move Buddy for $.70 on the dollar” if you want to keep Davis and I found myself nodding in approval.

McNair has some choices to make. Currently Fox, Hali, Buddy, Wright make up the vast majority of the guard rotation. So when it comes to Davis and wanting/needing to match any offer he may get, McNair may need to a plan to move one of the other 4 guards first.

murraytant
July 13, 2021 5:02 pm
Reply to  Adamsite

Buddy currently has some value despite many here not liking him. In volume he is one of the top 3 point guys. Davis is a lesser player but a cheaper alternative if a young guy is waiting to develop or Buddy is converted to another position. I don’t like always selling at a 30% discount but that may be the way of the small market, bad teams.
A #10 from NOP could be used for a SF.

Adamsite
Nostradumbass 14
Nostradumbass 14
July 13, 2021 5:12 pm
Reply to  murraytant

Buddy makes a lot of sense for the Pels with Ingram and Williamson as their centerpieces, but he’s not worth the #10 regardless of who the Kings take back. Buddy for Adams and the #10 isn’t going to fly

All that being said, I wonder if it were Buddy and a 2023 lottery protected first for Adams and the #10 would interest the Pels.

murraytant
July 13, 2021 5:33 pm
Reply to  Adamsite

you are probably correct but I hope you are not. Buddy does make sense for them. Adams has fallen behind Hernangomez and Hayes. They do want to be rid of him. I hope that they see Buddy as worth a #10 because he can play now. and , in a sense, they are paying a premium to get rid of Adams who has, I believe, 2 years on his deal.
But how about a 2022 lottery protected? ( the trade timing has to be right)

TheGrantNapear
July 13, 2021 8:51 pm
Reply to  Adamsite

Given the Pels just fired SVG after one season, I think ownership has a win now edict, especially with Zion on his rookie deal. Buddy seems like he’d be a perfect fit next to Zion and Ingram.
The #10 pick and Adams in a Buddy trade isn’t so far fetched, especially if the Pels really want to get out of Adams’ contract.

WizsSox
July 13, 2021 10:43 pm
Reply to  TheGrantNapear

But I think it is very far fetched…One it’s just terrible value, two it doesn’t provide them any more cap room by taking Buddy back. They would only have 6-7 players (including Buddy) that played any real minutes last year, Hayes as their only big man and not a ton of money to work with. Hart, Ball, Hernangomez all FA’s.

If they are including 10, it’s to either sweeten a deal to get a name better than Buddy, or at least a better value contract or move Adams into someone’s cap space and not take money in return.

Otis
July 14, 2021 4:33 am
Reply to  TheGrantNapear

Not sure why New Orleans would want to move Adams’ smaller deal for Buddy’s larger (and longer) deal in the first place – but adding a first round pick?

I’d have to believe they could find better options out there, or at least options that wouldn’t require tacking on that first rounder.

Otis
July 14, 2021 4:35 am
Reply to  Otis

And I just saw that Wizs made this point much better than I. Disregard.

murraytant
July 13, 2021 4:59 pm

Good podcast.
Agree that Davis is not worth 9 million but someone has to be willing to pay that. Match a lower number.
Draft picks were interesting: Mitchell, Sengun and Moody.
At #9, Kings should get a good player- just have to avoid picking the bad one.
I am going to throw out an outrageous scenario here.
Trade Buddy to NOP for Adams or Hart + #10. NOP want shooters around Zion. If Holmes signs, consider moving Adams. With 9 and 10, get Moody or Bouknight or even Mitchell and Sengun.
Trade Barnes to Pacers for some filler + #13. Pacers want a vet. Filler might be Lamb but trade, cut or chop up his salary Houston wants to trade Gordon for #13- a vet but Barnes I believe has more value. At least he does not get hurt all the time.
Trade #13 down to OKC for 18 and 34. Take Vrenz with one of these picks.
Move 39 for future seconds.
This puts all marbles on the 2021 draft.
I do not think Kings are one vet player away from playoffs. Hence do not like moving #9 for a vet. This is a mini-step backwards and puts 4 players from 2021 on roster. That’s a lot. Better hire lots of development guys.
I would put MB3 into any of those scenarios but I doubt anyone really wants him. Perhaps if these don’t work, try for MB3 to OKC for 18 and 34 but doubt they go for that.

HongKongKingsFan
July 13, 2021 5:16 pm
Reply to  murraytant

I just don’t see we will be making numerous trade ………

But I love the trade with the Pels….

BestHyperboleEver
July 13, 2021 9:37 pm

I would assume most Kings fans do. Because it’s absolute highway robbery in favor of the Kings.

murraytant
July 13, 2021 10:25 pm

guys available at #10 are all young and no help in win now except maybe Kispert or Duarte.
Kispert may shoot enough 3’s to keep Zion open. He may but he may not.

Otis
July 14, 2021 4:37 am

It’s unfortunate these other teams have a say in those deals. 😭

TheGrantNapear
July 13, 2021 8:54 pm
Reply to  murraytant

Ending up with the #9 and #10 would be awesome. Would put the Kings in a position to move up as well if they are really targeting someone.

Bryant
Member
July 13, 2021 6:28 pm

I very much enjoy the draft thoughts, and can totally see why Davion Mitchell is Jerry’s type of player. Thanks as always for the excellent content, fellas!

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Kosta
July 13, 2021 8:02 pm

Kinda feels like even on draft night after we’ve made our pick, I still won’t feel happy or sad about our player whoever it is at 9. It’s so hard to tell who is the BPA at this point at that slot.

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rockbottom
July 13, 2021 8:44 pm

Enjoyed the podcast and hope a lot more is done than the pick ! Impossible to have any enthusiasm for coming season if it’s same team back !

BestHyperboleEver
July 13, 2021 9:39 pm

i haven’t listened to the pod, but I very much agree with the quoted text in the header.

murraytant
July 13, 2021 10:22 pm

the price Philly is asking for Simmonds is too high.
There are tank teams ( Houston, OKC, Orlando) and win now teams ( NOP, Memphis, GSW, LAC, LAL, Denver, Utah, Suns, probably Minnesota) and a couple vacillating- SAS and Kings. Kings ownership wants win now but realistically way too many teams above them even for a 10th seed. IMO take a pause on win now- move as many of the 3 player assets- Buddy, Barnes and MB3. as possible. Get either young guys ( tough to get) or draft guys. This draft could yield 3-4 “players” at9, 10 and 13. Get 10 from NOP, get 13 from Pacers who want to win now. Convert 13 into 2 lower picks. There could be some low end of round 1 players: Murphy, Duarte, Vrenz, Butler, or Hyland.
The win now teams may over pay for Buddy, Barnes and MB3. If you are the Pacers and want to win, would you take Kispert or trade for Barnes? If you are NOP and want outside shooting to help Zion and want to get rid of Adams dead weight, would you not want Buddy? I think NOP are more desperate than Kings. They have future first round picks, do they really think they need the Kings protected 2022?

WizsSox
July 13, 2021 11:13 pm
Reply to  murraytant

I love it! The Kings in these deals, just unloaded 30 million in salary and got back a starting center and the 10th and 13th picks.

This shit is soooo easy…comment image

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kings4ever
July 14, 2021 5:36 am

I understand where the French Lick Legend and Caucasion Comet Jerry Reynolds is coming from on Davion Mitchell, he’s Marcus Smart with better offense. He’s Donovan without the foul drawing ability (yet). There’s a reason he wears #45 too, it is to emulate the player he aspires to be.

Now, Terrence Davis. I described him long ago as Donovan-esque, or Bobby Jackson with regards to instant offense and bulldog defender. So if TD and Davion are reminiscent of the Jazz superstar, then TD and Davion are similar, so the question becomes, do you want a somewhat duplicate player “in the pursuit of BPA”, and then sort it all out afterwards?

I don’t think the Kings can afford that luxury, with gaping holes on the wing. Look at the Suns with Cam Johnson, Crowder and Miles Bridges. Look at the Hawks with Huerter, Collins, Hunter, even Gallinari. They are stacked and loaded. These are long active players who fill the gaps and facilate the job of the center and PG. Meanwhile we have Barnes and Louie King.

So we are going to use our BEST asset (#9 pick) on a 6’0 guard given these gaping holes?
The question is likely moot because Davion is going to go somewhere between #5 to #8.

The reason that Davion is going to be coveted is because he creates space for himself and teammates and refuses to let his man go where he wants to go with his lateral quickness and strength. Even when his shot is off, he can be valuable by breaking up the opponents playsets with denials and deflections. Unlike others I am not concerned about his age. There, I just described TD too.

With TD, so many times he was ice cold but the team was competitive with him on the floor because of his defensive energy and fundamental play. And yet he was getting good shots. And through this hot and cold he ended 57% TS%, quite impressive. With a training camp, comfort with system and teammates, refining his 3 ball, he is a 60% TS% with plus defense.

It boils down to ability to get clean looks at the rim, be a decoy for teammates, attack hard on closeouts, and able to ride out the inevitable cold spells with ironclad defender. This describes TD and Davion, not Buddy.

If your heart and mind is set on Davion, and some unlikely chance he falls to #9, you need sign and trade with Terrence Davis. I am not opposed to that. But the wing or big you get in a S&T is likely not going to be as good as the wing or big you can get with the #9 pick. That is why taking Davion at the #9 is dubious asset management.

A talent poor team with an imbalanced roster cannot afford to become more imbalanced without substantial talent upgrade. Could you do a S&T with TD to acquire Alperen or Isaiah Jackson later in the draft? That would appeal to me. But this becomes remote, (1) Davion lasting to #9, and (2) getting another player on your draft board with a TD S&T. This type of stuff usually only works in fantasy GM land

The more prudent and feasible course is draft Zaiare, the Unicorn or Alperen, or even Kai Jones, depending on who is the most impressive in your private workouts and interviews.
Simultaneously, you need Marvin off this team about coinciding with the draft or free agency. With Buddy it is 50/50, we do not have to move him with as much urgency. We can afford to be more patient, preying on teams desperation when their free agent or trade plans do not materialize.

It is exciting time to be a Kings fans because McGenius is about to strut his stuff!

rockbottom
July 14, 2021 6:15 am
Reply to  kings4ever

A lot of great points and some not so great in my opinion but appreciate and enjoyed the effort !

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