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Report: Talks between Warriors and Kings resume on Jonathan Kuminga trade

With training camp days away, Golden State and Sacramento remain locked in stalled negotiations over Malik Monk, a protected 2030 first-round pick, and Kuminga’s sign-and-trade deal.
By | 97 Comments | Sep 24, 2025

Oct 9, 2024; Sacramento, California, USA; Golden State Warriors forward Jonathan Kuminga (00) and Sacramento Kings forward Keegan Murray (13) jog up the court during the first quarter at Golden 1 Center. Mandatory Credit: Ed Szczepanski-Imagn Images

Well, here we are. September is coming to a close, fall has officially begun, Halloween decorations are slowly starting to pop up, NBA training camps are around the corner, and the Jonathan Kuminga offseason saga has officially spilled over from summer.

It’s been 7 weeks since we last heard much on the Kuminga front, with the previous big news being the most likely scenario was him returning to the Golden State Warriors. Sam Amick of The Athletic reported Wednesday that with only a week left until Kuminga has to make a decision on the Warriors’ qualifying offer, a deal with the Sacramento Kings is still in play.

“Yet, according to team sources, there’s still another scenario in play here: A sign-and-trade deal with the Sacramento Kings. While the two teams went more than a month without discussing the matter during the later part of the summer, team sources said the talks between the two sides were renewed earlier this week. And while no significant progress was made in the talks, it’s quite notable that the Kings — who have offered veteran guard Malik Monk and a lottery-protected, 2030 first-round pick for the chance to give Kuminga a three-year, $63 million deal — aren’t giving up on the prospect of bringing him to Sacramento this season.”

The same problems still exist with this proposed deal when we first heard about it though: Monk’s contract and how the Warriors view the protections of the 2030 first-round pick the Kings are reportedly including in the offer.

“The Warriors’ interest in Monk appears to be quite muted. His contract is the primary issue, as he has a player option for the 2027-28 season worth $21.5 million that does not fit with the Warriors’ future flexibility plans. There are concerns about his fit on the team as well.”

“The Warriors could create some of that desired salary cap space by trading either Buddy Hield or Moses Moody to stay under the first apron of the luxury tax, but have consistently messaged during this (painful) process that they refuse to do so, in large part, because of their affinity for both players. That messaging has grown even stronger in recent weeks.”

Now to the 2030 pick. Amick reports that if the Warriors were to change how they view the deal, the Kings would need to budge on the protections.

“It’s highly unlikely that the Kings would lift the protections entirely, but it’s fair to wonder if the prospect of them lowering them in the coming days might be enough to get a deal done. The Warriors’ unwelcome alternative, one in which they lose the seventh pick in the 2021 draft for nothing when he walks next summer, is staring them right in the face. So long as Kuminga is truly willing to take the qualifying offer, of course.”

So, the same sticking points remain, but the deal isn’t completely off the table.

You always have to wonder who is behind these reports and why, but what do you think? Are you still in favor of this going down?

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September 24, 2025 8:21 pm

Just my gut take, Malik is the deal breaker for the Dub here. They have zero need for his game, personality, and contract. I feel the holdup is a 3rd team that wants additional compensation for eating Monk’s deal. A team like the Nets could take on Monk’s deal in exchange for a few of their small contracts headed to the Dubs, but that would mean the Kings would need to sweeten the post of both Brooklyn and Golden State. I’d pass on a potential overpay like that.

I don’t think a deal happens and now I turn my attention to camp where Malik Monk, Dario Saric, and Devin Carter have all been linked to this Kuminga story. Gonna be an interesting locker room knowing 3 dudes were on the block for months.

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September 24, 2025 10:51 pm
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I know you just named them as an example, but I don’t see why the Nets would take on Malik when they just drafted young playmakers.

I agree about the locker room, but only regarding Monk. The other two have zero to little gravitas behind their voice, I would think.

The locker room will likely be interesting for many reasons, but Saric and Carter moping should be very low on the list.

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September 25, 2025 7:34 am
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Yeah, I only brought up the Nets because they have been eating deals to future assets all summer. Now that they have reached the salary floor, they likely don’t want to take on Monk’s deal.

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September 24, 2025 11:02 pm
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And 1. I don’t know if the Rockets can make it work, capwise (Eason?), but they could use Monk with Van Vleet down.

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September 25, 2025 7:40 am
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I thought about Monk to the Rockets as well, but I also don’t think they want his contract. Frankly I don’t think anyone wants his contract. It’s gone from decent to bad with how this summer’s free agency has played out. He now looks very overpaid.

I’d love Eason, but I imagine the Rockets value him more than Jabari Smith Jr. JSJ might be more availble, but he does have that PPP thanks to the extension he signed. Maybe the Rockets look to get out of his deal at the cost of taking on Malik?

Meh, I just don’t think the Rockets would want a guy like Monk to run their point. It didn’t work in Sac. They might be better served waiting until December and signing a guy like Westbrook to the vet minimum.

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September 25, 2025 2:49 pm
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Getting more than a little annoyed of hearing this for months on end now, take a crap or get off the pot already, lol. Don’t know what all the hype is anyway, another offense first dude that is a questionable team player. Would much rather move DeRo + a 1st, get a guy like J. Isaac.

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September 24, 2025 10:36 pm

Just sign Westbrook already and be over with this shitshow.

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September 25, 2025 7:35 am
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Narrator: The shitshow will never be over.

and be over with this shitshow.

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September 25, 2025 2:32 pm
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…and Ben Simmons.

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September 25, 2025 4:56 pm
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Do they know its 2025 Russell Westbrook and not the 2015 version 🙂

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September 25, 2025 6:39 am

Posted something like this a few days ago, but just still wondering… why not instead of Monk, can something be worked out for Derozan?

His contact expires at the end of next season, which seems to fit the warriors plans. The positional fit is better for them, as they have a glut of guards.

Would have to expand the trade a little to make the salaries work… but i for one am fine with removing protections on the pick if we are getting out from a poor fit here in DDR while at the same time bringing in young talent like Kuminga.

Would love it if Moody could be included. I mean shoot: DDR, Saric, Carter, 2026 top 10 protected, and 2030 UNprotected… for Kuminga and Moody… sign me up. Two young players that fit with Keegan and Keon.

Go all in on the players 22-26 years old… better than what we are currently doing.

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September 25, 2025 8:01 am
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There was a trade scenerio the other day where Keon goes to the Rockets with some draft capital for Tari Eason and some draft capital. I really like Eason and always have. IMO he is a better player and better fit than Kuminga. Keon would help in their front court but not as a starting point guard. Playing Eason with Keegan together would create a defensive duos that would really help with what Chrstie wants. Keegan goes back to small forward giving him more opportunities onoffense. Eason next to Sabonis also creates a great fit together.
Monk to the Magic for Anthony Black and Jett Howard. Black backs up Schroder for a year or two then becomes your future starter.
Carter and Saric and maybe a second or two for Jalen Smith. Backs up Eason and possibly Sabonis.
DeRozan?

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September 25, 2025 9:18 am
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Derozan to the Magic for Rozier and a first. This might work as the Magic gets rid of Rozier”s salary for an established players who could help out as a 20 plus scorer. For the Kings they get a first probably somewhere in the 20 to 25 range bur Rozier has an expiring contract of 26 million.

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September 25, 2025 8:51 am
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Yeah, really need to move on from DDR with or without Kuminga.

Schroder, Keon, Zach, Keegan, Domas is > Schroder, Zach, DDR, Keegan, Domas.

If DDR is still here and we guaranteed Kuminga a starting role, that moves Keegan to the bench which is silly.

Schroder, Zach, DDR, Kuminga, Domas is frightening.

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September 25, 2025 9:11 am
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In a perfect world, yeah moving DDR would be ideal, but I just don’t see it happening. He really doesn’t fit in the Dubs system and getting the math to work would be extremely difficult and would likely involve multiple teams. I feel he would really only be of use to a contending team that desperately needs scoring. The Bucks are the team I would look to to keep Giannis happy and take the scoring load off of him.

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September 25, 2025 11:05 am
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I’m with Adam, why in the world would any team trade for DDR, his age and his contract? Only the Kangz were stupid enough to trade for him and give him a fat contract in his mid-30’s.

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September 25, 2025 7:40 pm
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Kuzma would likely be included in a Bucks trade. I can see why the Bucks might want do that trade.

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September 25, 2025 8:28 am

Jonathan Kuminga to the Kings (with guarantee to start) for back up SG/PG Malik Monk and a protected 1st 2030 or worse of San Antonio or Sacramento 2031 pick…
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September 25, 2025 8:30 am

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September 25, 2025 9:03 am

I think the Kings blink because they’ve done nothing this offseason, and they need something, anything they can sell to casual fans as “progress.”

Kuminga doesn’t seem to be an especially good defender, isn’t a great rebounder and he can’t shoot past 10 feet. And he WILL get his shots. It’s another bad fit, shoot first player on a team chock full of them.

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September 25, 2025 9:13 am
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Maybe the only reason the Kings feel Kuminga is worth it is because they feel he can become the next Siakam, as opposed to the next Coke Machine.

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September 25, 2025 9:18 am
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The potential that he can grow as a player because he is 22 years old. I bet he remains close to the player he is now throughout his career. With the Kings current roster, that’s not really a great fit.

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September 25, 2025 9:30 am
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The Derrick Williams worries are very real. He came to Sac as a 22 year old as well. Minny gave up on him early and it’s eerily similar to how Ainge and Dubs don’t play Kuminga. The difference here, however, is that the Dubs are wanting a King’s ransom (pun intended) return on a failed investment while the Wolves simply cut bait on Williams.

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September 25, 2025 9:41 am
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Minny gave up on him early and it’s eerily similar to how Ainge and Dubs don’t play Kuminga.

And you have to wonder why the Dubs are letting Ainge make lineup decisions for them. 😀

Annoying SGs from the 90s all look the same.

But yeah, the “he can learn how to shoot, pass and play D” doesn’t seem to actually work out very often.

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September 25, 2025 10:02 am
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Sure, there are some rare outliers that make a solid careers after slow starts. Kyle Lowry comes to mind. Generally, however, if you haven’t learned to be a consistent outside shooter, defender, rebounder and passer after 4 years in the league, then that ship has sailed.

From all that, Monk and a protected first seems like an overpay, but I’m fine with Saric, Carter and some 2nds. I’m not on board with the protected first. Monk and Kuminga seem like a bit of a wash for me talent wise. They both can get a bucket and provide highlights, but they aren’t a lot of help elsewhere on the floor.

Here’s a pretty solid breakdown of the flaws of a Monk for Kuminga swap from the Dubs perspective.

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September 25, 2025 10:06 am
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We’re on the same page

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September 25, 2025 11:04 am
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I say forget Kuminga. IMO e doesn’t fit. Keegan right now is a better player than Kuminga. If you start Kuminga that aces out Keegan as a possible second or third option. If you could get Eason he is a much better fit plays defense which Christie is looking for and won’t hinder Keegan as an offensive player. If it takes Keon so be it. Starters: Schroder, LaVine, Murray, Eason and Sabonis. IMO this would be a good fit.

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September 25, 2025 11:07 am
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I agree, and I think Keegan’s ceiling is “Solid starter.”

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September 25, 2025 11:10 am
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From all that, Monk and a protected first seems like an overpay, but I’m fine with Saric, Carter and some 2nds. I’m not on board with the protected first. Monk and Kuminga seem like a bit of a wash for me talent wise.

Thank you. JK has been in the NBA for four years and hasn’t improved and efficiency wise seems to have hit rock bottom last year. If he can’t succeed with an organization like the duds playing alongside one of the all time greats, what makes anyone think he’s going to come here and light it up playing for a dumpster fire roster and franchise? He is not worth a future first and a contract. Perry seems desperate to make a move just to make a move.

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September 25, 2025 12:43 pm
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Nice web link, well written synopsis, IMO. Thanks, Adamsite

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September 26, 2025 8:07 pm
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Much closer to Derrick Williams , aka Coke Machine As a defender and rebounder .

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September 25, 2025 11:06 am
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I think the Kings blink because they’ve done nothing this offseason, and they need something, anything they can sell to casual fans as “progress.”

In that case, just sign Russ.

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September 25, 2025 11:01 am

I would just like the Kings to find some young talent that might have some upside. Mo Bamba signed with Utah, Emoni Bates with the Sixers, etc. They might not become amazing players, but they are the younger players that the team should take a chance on instead of Saric, Eubanks, McDermott, Crowder, etc. It’s frustrating year after year seeing “retreads” come through Sac and not contributing anything to the team.

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September 25, 2025 1:02 pm
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It sure seems like agents tend to get their washed and aging players one last deal on the Kings, while dudes with youth and potential upside stay clear. Sacramento is where careers go to die on one last paycheck and not a place to develop a promising career.

We are that ugly and awkward person at the end of the bar that no one wants to go home with up until it’s closing time and the last few patrons have more then their fair share of alcohol and finally give in.

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September 25, 2025 11:02 am

Giving up a future first in 2030, what could possibly go wrong? lol.
This FO is doing the opposite of what they should be doing, which is accumulating future assets, not giving up more like the dreaded pick swap with the Spurs to obtain DDR.

The FO will trade for Kuminga giving up that future first, and fans will call you dumb for being against the trade because the pick is soooo far out. Well, see the DDR trade and how quickly that trade and signing became an albatross. But those of us who thought it was a terrible trade at the time were vilified on this very site.
Kuminga is not worth a future first, a quality player (Monk) and the contract Kuminga will get.

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September 25, 2025 12:48 pm

for the 2030 pick, where was it protected? top ??

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September 25, 2025 12:58 pm

Kings would be grossly over-paying, losing Monk who fans (including me) love and wants to be in Sac, and Kings would have to play Kuminga over DeRozan at the 3, or relegate him to the bench–for $60+M?? The Kuminga ship has sailed. This has Vivek written all over it.

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September 25, 2025 1:12 pm

It appeaers the new CBA and apron rules have reset the market for quality role players. Gone are the days where 6th men are getting more than the MLE. This is why Monk’s deal is looking worse and worse. When dudes like Grimes and Kuminga may instead choose the last resort of the QO, it shows the NBA is changing.

The middle class of NBA talent is getting squeezed out when dudes at the top will soon be making $1M per ballgame and half of the roster is on vet-minimum deals.. It could be why a guy like Lyles chose to go overseas.

Here’s the latest I’m hearing on the Quentin Grimes ~situation~. Agent David Bauman told me the Sixers’ formal offer was for four years and $39 million, and he still believes Grimes should command $20-25 annually. So, yeah, far apart. Some sort of one-year deal seems most likely, at the moment.????????

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September 25, 2025 2:35 pm
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I think that your reasoning is sound.

But I also think that monk is a below average guard. Lots of guards can do what he does.

He has some flashy plays around the rim but overall an inefficient scorer, averagish ball handler and poor defender and he lacks size.

it looked like his career was on an upward trajectory during the playoff season, but last year was a huge step backwards

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Personally, I like this direction. As long as the salary cap isn’t equally enormous, I like the idea of bad teams overpaying for superstars and allowing other teams to moneyball the situation where they can get high-value guys who suddenly become unavailable to those superstar-laden teams because of cap situations.

If a team wants to use 80% of their cap on SGA, great. That leaves more quality players available for the rest of us.

It’s much better than if they limit superstars to, say, 20% of the cap so a team can literally scoop up 3/10 best players and not blink. Once a team can do that, really good players who already made all their money have no choice but to glom on for the vet minimum to chase the inevitable ring. This happened with Boston, Miami, and LA.

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September 25, 2025 4:10 pm

Never heard of the guy and didn’t know he was on the training camp roster. That being said, it doesn’t surprise me one bit that he is 6’3″ combo guard. We definitely need more guys like that.

The Sacramento Kings have waived Jon Elmore. He was signed to an Exhibit 10 contract. No cap hit for the Kings. Elmore is expected to join the Stockton Kings of the G League this season.

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September 25, 2025 4:13 pm
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I was going to say he could be the glue of the team but that’s Elmer’s. So close.

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September 25, 2025 4:17 pm

Would have been a great Jerryism!

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September 25, 2025 4:15 pm
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Undrafted in the 2019 season.

Played with Stockton some last season. He’s only 29 so still has downside!

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September 25, 2025 4:22 pm
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Wowzers, he turns 30 this December. There is no bottom left to the barrel. Kings now slated to have Terrance Davis and Elmore join the the Stockton Kings. They just may be the oldest “development” team in the league.

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September 25, 2025 4:32 pm
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Brings new meaning to the phrase “fiber optics.”

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September 25, 2025 6:51 pm
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Perry is worried that if Schroeder gets injured, the Kings will only have 15 guards left, so he made sure he can call up TD and Elmore from the G league.

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September 25, 2025 6:41 pm
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Vivek is wants to get that championship trophy…in the G league.

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September 25, 2025 6:49 pm

Since the Kings keep on moving the bottom, why dont they just go all out and trade DDR for Kuzma straight up? ESPN trade machine approves and Vivek gets another of his man-crush in the team. Then sign Westbrook and Ben Simmons/Al Horford and be a super team, just old. F this.

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September 25, 2025 8:51 pm

Monk got exposed last year, nice scoring punch and playmaking off the bench but not much else, not efficient. Doesn’t play much defense from what I know, so he’s just an overpriced role/bench player. Classic Kings overpay. He fits perfectly with the Kangz, keeps them in that average to mediocre sweetspot they love lol.
Kuminga sounds fun to watch but once again pretty much nails us down to being totally average for the forseeable future, Kangz will find a way to get him and ensure that happens.

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September 26, 2025 12:08 am

If Kuminga wants to play for us, I feel like it’s too good to be true. Who would want to join our circus?

Must be some back room deal between him and our glorious perfect owner V I smell fish.

Anyways let’s do it, if it works great and if it fails miserably then we should all just never go to the Kings game.

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September 26, 2025 12:51 am

I dont mind Kuminga coming in a trade. I don’t mind the risk of his contract. It’s a solid gamble for this franchise. The problem is, there seems to be beter moves out there that are possible if you are including a future 1st round pick in the deal with Monk. Eason is one example that I see floated around in here often. Monk plus a 2026 top 6 protected or 2030 top 10 protected for Eason seems like a good deal for both teams. Needs are filled for Rockets and Kings. It makes both teams better for this season. Vanvleet going down makes this trade idea make a ton if sense for the rockets. in my opinion. the fit is exponentially better for the kings in the now and the future.

DDR and a second round pick for Kuminga and any filler necessary also makes sense to me and makes both rosters better. fit for Warriors roster and their needs appears to be better in my opinion. fit for kings makes sense similar to Eason if DDR goes in the deal. If its Monk I’m confused and annoyed when as a fan I should be excited about the new acquisition and potentia. Keeegen, DDR and Kuminga together is a bad collection of talent. All talented but the politics, contract and timing make this an awkward fit that likely wont result in much good. sDDR has that layer of no commitment long term for warriors. They could get better now for this small window they have for championship hopes and not be committed long term to money which they are trying to avoid with Kuminga. Also DDR is tradable at the all star break if they so choose.

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September 26, 2025 7:02 am
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I need some answers from some of you. I’m I wrong if you acquire Kuminga and he starts where does that leave Keegan Murray? Murray IMO is a better player than Kuminga. He would be totally aced out even if you traded DDR. LaVine first option then Sabonis then Kuminga. That leaves at Keegan at #4 option. IMO if you trade for say Tari Eason then Keegan probably would be #3 option.Much better for Keegan and much better for the Kings.What’s your opinion?

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September 26, 2025 8:40 am
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My guess is that the preferred methodology would be to put Kuminga at the 4, Murray at the 3, and jettison either DDR or Monk in the deal (likely involving another team), with the other becoming the offensive 6th man/spark off the bench.

At this point in their respective careers, Eason is not substantially more versatile or effective than Kuminga offensively, so whether you place Kuminga or Eason on the floor at that end is sort of a garbage in / garbage out exercise (though Kuminga is a better and more willing passer than Eason). Eason is a clear tier above defensively (imo), both on the boards and when it comes to altering opposing shots.

The main issue when comparing these two players is their real availability. Houston has always purported to like Eason, so I don’t think that they will give him away. They have the cap space to re-sign him next season, depending on what the RFA offers are out there. Now, after losing FVV for the season, would they have any interest in Schroder/Eubanks or Carter/protected 1st for Eason/Adams or DFS? Not likely, and if they did, it would not happen for a few months due to the NBA rules regarding newly signed contracts.

There are dozens of players that I would take over Kuminga, but none of them have been remotely hinted as available. Tari Eason is among those players.

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September 26, 2025 8:49 am
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I should add that Kuminga is certainly going to shoot more than Eason, and can work the interior better. But from the spacing concerns that have been noted with Kuminga would not be demonstrably different than if you had Eason in there instead. The shot distribution for the other four players on the floor would surely be greater in volume, however.

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September 26, 2025 9:11 am
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Jerry mentioned some podcasts ago that if you brought in Kuminga and had him start over Keegan it would be, “pretty fucking stupid,” or something like that. As of today Keegan is the superior player to Kuminga so this notion of promising Kuminga a starting spot is something that worries me, because I don’t see DDR coming off of the bench.

As Rob stated above, I’m not sure Eason is even available, but I too would prefer him over Kuminga. My gut says they’d prefer to move Jabari Smith Jr. first due to his contract, but this is difficult with his extension kicking in next season. That poison pill provision makes a trade complicated. It’s $12M going out for Houston, but $22M coming in for any team that trades for Smith Jr.

Interestingly enough a trade that does work with Smith Jr.s PPP is Monk for Smith Jr. and Capela. The Kings would almost assuredly have to include draft capital and still find a taker for DDR. Attention Milwaukee: Scott Perry is on line one.

Keegan and Smith Jr. starting and Kuzma as your 3/4 off the bench? I like that a whole lot better than what we have right now.

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September 26, 2025 9:18 am
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I’d prefer JSJ over Kuminga as well.

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September 26, 2025 9:50 am
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He’d be a solid fit between Keegan and Sabonis.

From what I’ve read Houston is kind of kicking itself a bit for giving that extension before the Durant trade. They could have waited like the Kings have done with Keegan. Many would have preferred to send him off and keep Brooks instead. Once that extension was inked, it was impossible to include him in on the Durant deal. Many had Eason, Brooks and Thompson as their preferred keepers of Smith Jr. I wonder if he’d still be available despite his PPP.

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September 26, 2025 10:30 am
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To Perry. Their is only one way to find out. Go for it.

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September 26, 2025 9:51 am
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September 26, 2025 10:28 am
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I agree. I would take Smith Jr. over Eason. The reason I didn’t include Smith Jr. is I thought because of the extension he wouldn’t be available. Capela a good backup to Sabonis which probably means Raynaud is now a power forward which is okay. IMO the best you are going to get for DDR is Rosier with his expiring contract(26 mil.) and say first which I would take. Eason or Smith Jr. I would take over Kuminga. Either one would help Murray where Kuminga wouldn’t.

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September 26, 2025 10:33 am
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You mentioned in one of your comments awhile ago that Kuzma would probably be a King. As a backup at either SF or PF I would do this.

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September 26, 2025 11:11 am
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It just seems inevitable. The Kings have been rumored to have eyes for him for so long, just like they had for LaVine and Buddy. When I say Kings, I really mean Vivek.

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September 26, 2025 11:32 am
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Well scratch the Capela idea. I didn’t realize he signed a new deal as part of the Durant trade. He can’t be traded until Dec. 14th.

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September 26, 2025 10:53 am

OT:

Rick Carlisle on the Zach Lowe show today. Great interview.

He mentioned that Tyrese was shocked by the trade. Rick told him he understood how he felt, but this is his team. Handed him the keys to the franchise in their first meeting.

I haz a sad.

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September 26, 2025 11:02 am
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I have zero sadness, but with this organization I also have zero expectation. Had the Kings not traded Hali, they would have wasted his first contract, the team would have underachieved, the organization would have ultimately pissed him off, a large segment of the fan base would be blaming him for results stemming from mistakes made much higher up the organizational ladder, and he would finally be traded for pennies on the dollar and for substantially less than Domantas Sabonis.

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September 26, 2025 11:07 am
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Feel the same.
I liked Hali more than Fox, but I can understand the trade, why Indy wanted Hali, Fox’s big contract, etc.
When I hear people argue over who won the Hali-Domas trade, it seems kind of silly. Each team benefited from the trade. Indy got a floor general; Sac balanced its roster and got a center who could pass.
The way I see it is Sac lost the Siakam trade. Had Sac added Monk to the deal and paid Pascal, they probably would have continued to evolve with Fox and Domas and the rest of the team. Plus, Indy would NOT have Siakam.
Now, Kings don’t have Hali, Fox or Siakam, and apparently don’t want Monk.
Ugh.

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September 26, 2025 11:08 am
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Have to hope the franchise will learn at some point. And I was okay with the trade at the time, and it did give us the Beam season, which was very fun.

But Indy knew what they were getting. Maybe we should have gotten some picks out of the deal. Not just a 2nd.

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September 26, 2025 12:23 pm
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Have to hope the franchise will learn at some point. 

They will not. They will either luck into a superstar (which has happened twice in the last decade) but NOT screw it up for once, or Vivek will eventually cash out. I don’t see any possibility that guy ever learns a lesson or attains bare minimal competence.

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September 26, 2025 1:27 pm
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Have to hope the franchise will learn sell at some point.

Fixed it for you. 🙂

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September 26, 2025 1:38 pm
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Maybe we can include Vivek in the Kuminga sign and trade. They deserve him more than we do.

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September 26, 2025 11:11 am

I would propose a Levine for Markkanen trade.
Kings balance roster. Jazz get out of big contract two years earlier.
Throw in some picks.

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September 26, 2025 11:41 am

Brutal takedown of Kuminga’s game and why it hasn’t worked in Golden State. Must watch.

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September 26, 2025 1:31 pm
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I think the counterargument is that he is 22 years old and still rather young from a game experience standpoint. That said, he could certainly wind up being a healthier version of Marvin Bagley, which is not without its place in the NBA, but it’s not what you spend $25m+ a year on.

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September 26, 2025 1:59 pm
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You took the very words out of my brain. As I lay here “enjoying” my third day of the flu and after watching that video, I thought to myself, I really hope the Kings don’t overpay for a healthier version of Marvin Bagley. The Pistons gave Bagley a 3 year $37M deal because he too was young, raw and full of promise who just needed a fresh start. Kuminga wants near double that.

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September 26, 2025 2:24 pm
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Career stats:

A: 289 g 22.4 mpg 12.0 pts 6.5 trb 0.9 ast .518 fg% .290 3p%
B: 258 g 22.0 mpg 12.5 pts 4.0 trb 1.8 ast .507 fg% .332 3p%

Yikes!

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September 26, 2025 2:49 pm
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Yup, and that doesn’t take into consideration a possible low BBall IQ and an overinflated ego. I’m not saying Kuminga is 100% like Bagley, but if it quacks like a duck…

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September 26, 2025 4:29 pm
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But does he have a quick 2nd jump?

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September 27, 2025 11:40 am
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Damn, sorry to hear! Hope you get better soon, Adam!

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September 27, 2025 4:03 am
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Yeah, I would trade for Kuminga, e.g. Carter, Monk, and/or DDR (no Keegan no Ellis) and NO draft assets. I like the trade possibilities with Houston way better.

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September 27, 2025 7:27 am

Me too. I could go either way with either Eason or Smith Jr. Either one would be a really good fit next to Sabonis and neither one would limit Keegan”a role on the Kings. Keegan could now go to small forward where he would have a much better chance to shine.I don’t know if this would happen but to Perry go for it and see what happens. We would lose Keon but in order to get something you have give up something. Keon as of now is not a starter but either Eason or Smith Jr, would be.

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September 27, 2025 8:26 am
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I originally thought Eason would be off the table in Houston, but reading up on some Rockets blogs he might end up being squeezed out down there. The Durant trade really put their cap in a bind. They need to save room to extend Durant AND prioritize future space for Amen Thompson.

Eason is eligible for an extension right now and there is reportedly some grumbling from his camp on getting it done. They point to Smith Jr. getting his contract and feel Eason is deserving as well. The problem is the Rockets simply can’t afford to give him the deal he wants and have the space for Durant and Amen.

Maybe they let it ride this year and see how their squad performs, but the FVV injury really threw a wrench into their plans. I feel they may wait and see how the Reed Sheppard/Amen Thompson PG platoon works before they get itchy for something else.

Houston is all in this season so they may get desperate enough for a guy like Monk before Dec.14th, hell maybe even Devin Carter and a pick for Eason.

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September 27, 2025 9:53 am

BREAKING…The Kings have traded for Jaylin Williams!

Unfortunately it’s the Stockton Kings acquiring the Grand Rapids Gold’s forward, not Sacramento and OKC.

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September 27, 2025 11:15 am
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At least he isn’t a ln undersized combo guard!

They also signed some 6’11 French guy that will be going to Stockton. Progress!!!

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September 27, 2025 12:49 pm
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They also added 6’1” guard Jameer Nelson, Jr.

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September 27, 2025 2:36 pm
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Offset by the 2 taller guys! Lol

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September 27, 2025 3:35 pm

I wonder what the Kings could have gotten from Houston for Fox right about now…

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September 27, 2025 4:24 pm
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No shit…

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September 27, 2025 5:11 pm

NBA PreSeason starts Thursday 2 October
Kings: Wednesday 8 October (vs. Raptors)

Talk about RJ Barrett! DDR reprise!
Dinos have 6 SG, Kings 6.
The Kings need another SG!
Let the trade speculation begin!

On the Houston side – Russ to Rox makes more sense than Kings.

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September 27, 2025 5:25 pm

Yeah, it wouldn’t surprise me if the Rockets and Westbrook already have a handshake deal to sign him come Dec. 14th. Seems best for both parties. Rockets are playing just need to be ready for the playoffs so they can likely wing it for through mid-December.

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September 28, 2025 12:58 pm
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Spies!

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September 28, 2025 1:27 pm
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Interestingly enough, Kuminga is ranked #83 in ESPN’s top 100 rankings for 2025. Murray and Monk didnt make it. Of course, it’s ESPN so it doesnt weigh as much, but its the national perspective vs our purple-colored glasses and we might be so far off.

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September 28, 2025 2:54 pm
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FWIW, the Ringer doesn’t have Kuminga (or Murray/Monk) in the top 100.

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September 29, 2025 6:50 am

The next 48 hours could determine how foolish this team is going to be this season. Get your popcorn out.

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