The Sacramento Kings are planning to explore trade options for DeMar DeRozan this offseason, according to a report from Jake Fischer in the latest Stein Line update.
“The focus in the California capital shifts now to what sort of dealing we could see from the Kings’ new regime. There has been no shortage of rumbles, since the hiring of Scott Perry as general manager, that Sacramento is expected to gauge the trade market for veteran swingman DeMar DeRozan.”
DeRozan joined the Kings in the three-team deal in July 2024 that sent Harrison Barnes to the San Antonio Spurs. DeRozan is owed $24 million in the 2025-26 season and $25 million in the 2026-27 season.
Removing DeRozan from the roster makes sense if Zach LaVine and/or Malik Monk is going to remain on the team so there aren’t three ball-dominant rotation players. Additionally, it would free things up to let the offense run through Domantas Sabonis more and give Keegan Murray additional scoring opportunities, which he needs. That all depends on what happens with the roster of course, but moving DeRozan would probably be better for the Kings and for DeMar, who probably would prefer to be in a better position to compete deep into the playoffs at this stage of his career.
Please!
Maybe something like DeRozan for KCP and da Silva and a 2nd?
Or add a couple 2nds and try to get the Orlando #25 pick this year (Orlando also has the 16th pick this year). Their cap is goo g to rise with Paolo, Franz, and Suggs being on max contracts soon, soaybe the 2nd round picks would be cheaper options for them.
Kings need to use DeRozan to try and fill some holes on the roster and rebalance things.
Yes, Orlando, LAC, Detroit and even Houston all need some offense. They are all in win now mode and think that a single piece will get them over the hump
Lakers could also use DDR.
This might work
Though I am no fan of his fragility and would give serious care in a physical, Johnathan Isaac is the kind of player the team could really use. He’s a solid defender, low usage, a bit of an outside touch, and long.
I like Isaac. The injuries are concerning, and he played only 15mpg last season, but was a good defender. $15m for the “Lyles” role seems steep. If they retain LaRavia, they would have a decent SF/PF rotation with Keegan, da Silva, and Isaac (if they got both from Orlando)
I’m not holding my breath on LaRavia coming back. It’s a shallow free agent pool, he is young, and is likely worth more than what the Kings can pay him. Also, why would he want to come back to this current shit show?
Oh man, was just thinking about Isaac yesterday. It could be great if he stays healthy. The size, defense, and outside shooting would fill a huge hole.
Oh Geez – have you actually watched him play. A major under achiever.
Like that one…or for Cole Anthony and Isaac/Da Silva would be alright too.
The “rumbles since the hiring of Perry” comment make me wonder if DDR or his agent kindly asked the Kings to put him on the market and/or if their camp could explore trade avenues.
What about DDR to the Lakers for Rui Hachimura and Shake Melton and a second.
What about Hachimura and Vanderbilt?
You’re dreaming my friend.
I wouldn’t think the Lakers would want a ball dominant player like DDR to go with Luka and LBJ. Their targets this summer are likely a center and outside shooting. DDR provides none of that.
Yeah, they need shooting and a defensive center that is a lob target for Luka.
DDR seems destined to be a Clipper.
Maybe but I’d want some draft capital,
Or maybe its just fairly obvious that the fit isn’t great, he’s not maybe exactly happy, his contract to production is decent to above average and because he’s a “real” nba star people would probably like to see him going to a team with some actual hope for winning…
I’m sure the guy would like a title. The problem is, I really do see any contenders that need his scoring, which comes with not much defense. What team looking to play for a title can hide him on defense and let him cook when they need points? Clippers perhaps? The Cavs, especially if they go out in round 2?
Guaranteed DDR wants to get the hell out of Sac. He sees how fucked this ownership is.
I’d be willing to bet a bunch other players one out of there too.
if only they could trade the owner
Couple of odd “facts”. If Mavs beat Griz, the Kings would have gotten a draft pick high enough that it would not convey to Hawks.
Mavs and Kings had close to the same odds at getting the #1 pick (1.8% for Mavs)
SAS moved up from 8 to #2 on draft lottery. Great. Two ROY- Wemby, Castle and Fox and the #2.
Houston got a lottery pick
Griz still young.
Portland young.
IMO- and it is mine; Kings have 2 options 1. try to stay ahead of the young teams on the rise or deliberately take a nosedive and plan to follow them in a few years. I believe that the FO wants to take the first option -try to stay relevant and take the Indy approach (no stars but a team that fits) or the NYK’s. (Trade it all for now)
They own all FRPs and about half of the second rounders.
The current team is great in fantasy, lousy together on the court. Something has to go. DDR (and I love the guy) does not fit. Neither does Zach but DDR is easier to trade.
Kings have needs. Teams can play without a true PG (true PG= the player who handles the ball most of the time and distributes but can be a primary scorer too) but only in stretches. Many of the playoff teams go for long periods without a true PG.
Can Malik + Keon + Carter play the role of PG? (rhetorical- I doubt it)
Kings need a miracle but oh, the Mavs took that.
Houston, OKC and SAS are rising AND have tons of picks to restock the cupboard
Last years team should not run it back. Trade them all- I know there is an 8th grader out there who will, in time, be the miracle. I am being sarcastic
The Kings only real option is to tank even more so after what happened last night. They are absolutely dead in the water. If they try and run it back, they’re a bottom 10 team barring injury to other teams. Zach Lavine is a loser and has proven it over and over again so he’s not leading this team anywhere. I’d trade everyone who doesn’t play hard defense and bottom out. I’d try and trade Sabonis but I doubt you can get much for him. I’d hang onto Keon and Keegan and build around that until you get more viable top end talent. Right now we have none.
Maybe we can trade him for Barnes and get our 2031 unprotected pick swap back?
Yeah, right. Probably going to cost us more picks to move him
The swap is so far out that it doesn’t matter.
I will predict that this is a pure salary dump where we get nothing or almost nothing of value back. I won’t be mad at it because while Vivek owns the team, it’s irrelevant anyway.
Bingo. It was an incredibly stupid idea to bring him in in the first place. Just get rid of him for whatever. It doesn’t matter. Addition by subtraction in this case.
Getting rid of Levine would be awesome too but he’s making too much money. Who’s gonna want him?
And if you have to trade Monk, that’s fine too.
This 1000%
He’s going to be 36. Ball dominant that will mess up most teams offense.
Kings will be lucky to get a cpl seconds for him. At best. At this stage of his career, DDR has little value.
But we just traded real assets for him a year ago, surely he must be worth something.
One of the dumbest trades in Kangz’ history.
I hate to admit it, but I was wrong about DDR. I thought he was an ideal add. I also (admittedly) thought that he’d be willing to NOT be so ball dominant and kind of turn it on like Monk. He only had 14 games all year with under 13 FGA (and only 3 with single digits), and had 24 games where he took more than 14 shots while shooting under 45%. When he’s on, he’s really close to unguardable. There were times watching him when you knew the defender could just feel they were about to be shot right over the top of and were helpless. But I thought he’d be willing to support Keegan being the 3rd option, or that Brown/DC would figure out how to feed so many mouths with staggered lineups. That just didn’t happen.
I don’t forsee a situation where we start next season with Zack LaBeam or Domas traded. I think Monk (who I love and will always root for as a B-Jax style glue guy) and DDR are probably trade fodder and there are teams who would want them. They’re not on bad contracts, but they don’t fit with us. I also don’t see Lyles, LaRiva, Crowder, McBuckets or any of our two ways returning or playing meaningful minutes.
This means we’re probably starting next season with a starting five of (insert PG upgrade here)-Keon-Lavine–Keegan–Domas
and a bench consisting of Devin Carter-JV-and whoever we can find for bench movement.
Not inspiring without some serious blind optimism in Keon and Keegan. It really may just be time to burn it all down and get what we can at the next trade deadline.
Kudo’s for you to admitting this, because at the time everyone was coining him the best Kings free agent acquistion ever, stating that talent trumps fit (he is so much better than Barnes!) and that Brown would find a way to make it work.
Every form of mild criticism was drowned out in hyperbole, he was suddenly an underrated defender and a much better passer than he gets credit for, and he was almost as ageless as LBJ. The national press was lazy and only Kings fans knew that this was a great get…
Bottom line, the TKH collective braintrust is not infallible. We’re just less stupid than Vivek and Vlade, which is a very low bar.
I think many of us were washed in the purple haze at the time. “A swap of Barnes for DDR…what a clear upgrade!!” and “best free agent signing since Vlade!”
The reality is Barnes had the best complimentary shooting and role of his career in San Antonio and DDR was the catalyst that killed the chemistry and Kings careers of quite a few individuals. DDR is not a bad basketball player, in fact he is still quite good. It all came down to fit.
I went back and read the TKH archives. At the time of the rumor the Kings were interested in DDR, it was believed the Bulls wanted Huerter. Those were the reports. Ironically, they eventually got him in the Fox deal. I was lukewarm on the idea of adding DDR. I saw the appeal, but didn’t like the 3 year deal and the lack of spacing.
For anyone interested, here is the link to the TKH article on the Kings looking at adding DDR.
Exactly. I couldn’t understand it and borderline thought I was going insane for not buying into it. Like what was I not seeing that everyone else seems to be seeing.
I mean, from the Link Adamsite just shared…
There are even more receipts in the completed sign and trade thread, for those who care to look. Revisionist history is a bitch.
I still think that a lot of the virtues he brings are what was being described. The national press was pretty positive about it too. He’s just not the right fit for this roster. He’d be good in a place where an Apex scorer and veteran leader is needed. I think (speculation) the problem is that Fox and Sabonis didn’t need the leadership and mentorship. They are leaders. They are veterans. I think his struggles were akin to having good talent in the organization pipeline for any job and making a good external hire who doesn’t see what good is already there. Where he’d excel is in that Tobias Harris / Detroit Role. Honestly, in a weird way, he might be a really good fit for the Mavs. Flagg/Kyrie(out for a while)/Davis/DDR with Klay as a spray shooter? And DDR would defer to those other 3 as Kyrie healed and Flagg matured where he wasn’t doing that with Fox/Ox.
Further, DDR + Monk averaged 31.4 shots a game. Sabonis + Fox averaged 32.4
That seems too close, to be honest. Given how well Domas shot the 3, he needs to be taking more shots. I’d love to see him average 17 shots a game this year (Joker averages almost 20). Lavine was almost a straight match for Fox in that way, but at a much higher percentage from the field. If we built solid pieces around Lavine and Domas (good PG, solid Rim runner, defensive bull dogs), I can see a world where this is a more competitive team next year.
IMO from those above Jake LaRavia should stay on the team for various reasons.
Yeah. I just thought he was a talent upgrade versus Barnes and so we would figure out a way to be better.
Hashtag cold takes.
Best news of the
off seasonyear so far.I have nothing against the man, but DeRozan was the wrong fit for this team. He was a vacuum, completely eliminating all that was good and fun about the team. Run the offence through Domas, move on and off the ball, move the ball. All this went away as soon as he touched it.
I almost don’t care about the return we get for him. Addition by subtraction is the value I want.
Looking at trade proposals on Fanspo and found one that might work. A 3 team trade. Lakers get Klay Thompson and Daniel Gafford. Mavericks get Demar DeRozan, Shake Milton and Terrance Davis. Kings get Jarred Vanderbilt, Gabe Vincent and Dalton Kneckt. Might work.
I was pretty adamant about derozan being a bad fit. I’ve also been for years claiming the Sabonis trade just gave us a low ceiling with little room to improve. I wanted to be wrong, but sadly wasn’t. I’ve just seen a lot of champions and that’s the route I wanted to see us go which would be tearing it down. Hali was the one guy I thought should never be traded because his game just fits today’s game. He’s now in 2 straight ECF. I would prefer a long rebuild and actually doing it correctly brick by brick. Keon and Murray are the only 2 pieces that can play meaningful games on a contender. We can probably keep this current roster and be a bottom 10 team which I’m ok with, but reality says just bottom out and go through lean years with multiple stabs at the draft. Don’t worry about fit and get talent then trade what doesn’t fit the vision for better assets. Jazz and wizards are doing it the right way.
At this point fans that got it wrong just need to be honest with themselves, the FO has accumulated career losers as it’s core, it’s comical and sad at the same time. Bulls West.
Hopefully Perry can convince our idiot owner to tank next season.
Hilarious…from last year’s link. Getting fact checked twice in the same thread is a rough look
TheGrantNapear
July 6, 2024 9:11 pm
Big news always crashes TKH!
Having two of Fox, Monk and DDR on the floor majority of the time is going to put a ton of stress on defenses.
I think we’re a PF and a wing with size away from a much more balanced roster.
If MM can come away with J. Collins and DFS look out.
That’s a sick finishing lineup:
Fox
Monk
DeRozan
KM
Domas
At his age, and seeing him play like final game kobe all season, I’m not even sure what we’d get back of value. He could even be a we give up a 1st to get rid of type of trade for anything decent in return.
At least he won’t be on the team next year it seems like so there’s that. I honestly think subtracting ddr and going back to domas having a bit more playmaking should help the offense at the very worst.
He seems like a great dude. Probably got sold a bit of snake oil to come here and seen Basketball Hell, CA up close, but not a player I’ll miss watching
Good start, even though DDR has no value with his current contract. Now trade off everyone else. Zach, Sabonis, Monk, Murray – EVERYONE. This team is going nowhere. Trying to build around Zach is going nowhere. Trade everyone before they jump ship when their contracts expire. Get whatever picks/young talent we can and tank the next 5 years. That is the only way this team will ever become good.
I love watching NBA basketball, but I need a rooting interest, and unfortunately my rooting interest is the Sacramento Kings. I keep trying to get interested in the playoffs, but it hasn’t gelled for me yet…why mention this?
because I need a glimmer of hope to even be interested in the Kings, so a 3-5 year complete tear down and rebuild…my sports fandom would die (I really only follow the NBA, and even that only to see how it impacts the kings.
so I’m happy to see that the kings are shopping DeRozen. Good guy, but hate his style of play. My “hot” take is if they move DDR even for peanuts the kings are 3-5 games better next year. By my eyes, everybody but Keon regressed last year withDDR on the floor, for whatever reason. Move DDR and we get better. Full stop.
Find a point guard. Find some playable height. And I have hope-perhaps slim. I get that the consensus on this site is to blow it up. But I’d submit to you that this site doesn’t represent the average fan-and thank god for that! Many “normies”, though, are really pretty happy with a rooting chance, something that was missing for for over a decade. Honestly, I think Vivek understands this, and also understands he really doesn’t have the financial backing to get a championship. He saved the team for Sac, but he’s probably in the bottom 10% of richest NBA owners. So mediocre maybe the best we can hope for.
but what some see as mediocrity, I see as relevance and hope in the NBA world. Now, admittedly, I might change my tune with another couple of years of mediocrity , but for now, I’d love to hear what moves you all would make to move us to relavancy? Let’s talk about championships in a couple years…just my two, or in this case, twenty cents…
I don’t post a lot, but when I do there seems to be lots of words…sorry!
It’s a less is more thing for me. DDR is a great guy but his being here stagnates Keegan’s development and offensive flow. Just don’t give up assets to let him go. A player and a second would be Ok to me.
That 2031 pick swap is going to be brutal.
Many laughed at those of us who crtitisized the inclusion of it in a trade for an old on his last leg player and were high fiving that DDR is the best trade/signing in King’s history lol.
These Kangz headlines aren’t even headlines lol. Everyone knows he wants out and we want to get rid of him. Problem is the Kings think they should wait for good value rather than just tear this thing down so it’s the usual long and unsatisfying waiting game. They should really just be giving him away for nothing but will probably want some half decent return which will keep us mediocre. This franchise has no idea how to maneuver as a small market. The NBA places no value in us so we’re not getting any breaks or free agents. You either bottom it out or you pray for some random miracle which I’m not even sure what that would be. It would have to be a repeat of the Webber trade, with a good GM and coach, good luck with that.
I’m enjoying watching all these good teams play entertaining basketball in the playoffs now that the Kings are out of the way.
I like Derozan — he doesn’t whine and he is a steady scorer from mid-range, something we needed with Fox gone. But, if Scott Perry doesn’t use the assets gained for a PF or PG, I will (once again) say I am done with this team. No more combo guards or small forwards. Give me some beef and shot-blocking up front (as Sabonis is not going to intimidate anyone driving into the key) and someone to take the ball out of LaVine’s and Monk’s hands. I am tired of watching them turn the ball over by dribbling off their leg or making a bad, telegraphed pass.
I’ll say this for DDR, he’s a professional who brings his lunch pail to to work and doesn’t complain. It just comes down to the wrong type of fit for this roster. I imagine Houston or Orlando could have used his skillset during these playoffs, but that ship has sailed. Houston is gong big game hunting this summer (Giannis, Durant, etc) and Orlando can find better fitting pieces that fit their timeline (Simons, Dejounte Murray).
Good luck to Perry in righting this ship because he’s gonna need it.
I would actually like Zion on the Kings. Take the shot with top-tier talent and see what happens.
Monk and DDR + draft capital. Try to get the reclamation project and strike lightning in a bottle.
feel like it was just yesterday I was blasting not like us repeatedly when he signed….welp
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