One of the larger off-court questions around the Sacramento Kings this season is the future of General Manager Monte McNair. There were calls from some fans and media members over the summer that McNair should have been extended to match the length of Mike Brown’s new contract. As it currently stands, McNair is entering the final year of his contract and there’s been no public indication whether the Kings will extend him.
The concern among those who want to see McNair extended is that he’s making big decisions that will impact the franchise for years to come, such as trading Tyrese Haliburton for Domantas Sabonis and hiring Mike Brown as the next Kings coach.
The argument against extending McNair is that, to put it simply, the Kings have still bill bad. McNair has reshaped this roster, but it has taken time. And although there’s a palpable level of excitement entering this season, we’ve been excited before only to see our hopes dashed within the first few months of a new year.
I’d argue the most reasonable course is to wait and see. Hopefully the Kings start the season strong, perform at or above expectations, and make it a simple decision to extend McNair in the middle of the year (GM extensions don’t have the same limitations as player extensions and can be done at any time).
Unfortunately this question will likely linger throughout the year, until McNair is either extended or fired. Either could happen midseason, or we may not see either happen until next offseason. I’ll be rooting for a McNair extension, simply because that likely indicates the Kings had a good 2022-23 season.
Oh yes, damn it. Of course. Give him the buckets of cash. This team’s winning record and improvement on the court proves his value.
You mean they haven’t proven shit or even shown the slightest hint they are ready to compete?
If they’ll extend him (they shouldn’t before the AS break); I hope they make the length of his contract coincide with the length of Sabonis’ contract.
If Sabonis leaves for nothing with nothing to show for it, Monte has failed, no matter how ell or bad Tyrese plays.
Give McNair some credit that the current roster does not have those “TOXIC” contract !!!
Sure. I’ll give him credit for that, but not an extension.
Teams don’t win championships (or play-off games, or reach the play-in) for not having toxic contracts.
W/L are all the matter.
The most popular name for newborns in the city of Sacramento so far in 2022 has been Monte. For both boys and girls. And okay, everyone suddenly naming their kids Monte willy-nilly might not necessarily mean that Monte McNair is amazingly popular in Sacramento, that indeed there may be other popular Montes in Sacramento that are contributing to this phenomenon, and sure, I may have just made all of that up, but I think that answers the question, whatever it was.
I know I’ll be in the minority here, but I’d extend him. Even if the Ws and Ls remained unchanged, he has accomplished flexibility and rid itself of bad contracts and loaded the team with young NBA players that are still on the upswing of their careers. There isn’t a single bad contract on the team, unless you consider the inherited Fox contract bad. A lot hinges on what happens with Sabonis at the end of his contract, but I’d have to say that McNair has been the best GM in the Sacramento era, outside of Petrie. Fans get frustrated at the pace of his moves and the lack of a BIG MOVE outside of Sabonis, but he also hasn’t rushed into bad moves or taken on bad contracts. He’s always said his goals were flexibility, shooting, and length. He’s continually moved the roster in that direction and drafted well if not extremely well. I’d extend him through Brown’s contract.
Consistency is an important part of a winning team and continually changing executive leadership is not a recipe for success. As long as the team is moving in the right direction and not stagnating, I’d keep the executive team in tact.
The Fox contract wasn’t inherited, unless I am mistaken. Monte signed him to it.
To be fair, I think the other 29 GMs in the league would have signed Fox to the same extension. He was coming off his 3rd year in the league, still on his rookie deal, and was arguably the best player on the team.
Amazingly he is only 2nd rookie of the Vivek era to sign a rookie extension, with DMC being the other. The Kings have had 12 first round picks in the Vivek era and Fox is the only one to sign AND was worthy of an extension. Horrible drafting.
It was a premature extension, and Jerry Reynolds repeatedly said that he didn’t understand why the FO didn’t let him play that final year before negotiating a new contract.
in the worst case, you let the market dictate his worth. Now we were once again negotiating against ourselves.
I don’t have the cap smarts like someone like Guru, but could they have waited another summer? Don’t those rookie extensions have a deadline to the summer of their 3rd year? Looking back at the rookie extension of that year, they were all from the 2017 draft. Last summer was the extension period for the 2018 draft, like Luka and Trae.
I’m not positive about this, but maybe the Kings couldn’t have offered that type of extension in the summer of 2021 because it was only available in 2020. It was extend him then, or gamble with RFA, like the Suns just did with Ayton. I think the concern with that is possible pissing off the player and his agent or you end up not wanting to match a max deal and get back pennies on the dollar in a S&T.
The last day to sign rookie extensions is the day before the season starts for their last option year. For Fox, that was the fall of 2020. Link (in table).
They could have not signed the extension with him then offered him a maximum qualifying offer in restricted free agency. That is five seasons at the max with 8% raises and no options, ETOs, or bonuses. Link (middle of answer in FAQ).
One reason to do that instead of signing a designated rookie extension (with 5 years at the new salary) is that you can only have two such contracts on the books. This may be why the Suns did not give Ayton one. You can theoretically have an unlimited number of players signed to maximum qualifying offer contracts. Just to note though the Suns did not offer the maximum qualifying offer AFAIK. But they may have been trying to avoid the two designated rookie max contracts.
I think most commenters at the time including myself didn’t like the extension. I doubt most GM’s would have given Fox the max, especially before it was necessary.
So you would have preferred to not extend in 2020 and let him become a RFA in 2021?
2 months into his tenure, Monte signed the best player and most likely all-star this team had at the time to a max deal.
I’m pretty sure any GM would’ve done the same thing. Especially with Vivek in their ear telling them how important Fox is to the team’s overall direction. A full season later, Monte said “ok, then I’ll just go ahead and trade this other all-star potential guard, then.” To which Vivek was like “yes, great idea!”
And now we have two potential all-stars, but one of them is a guard and the other is a big.
Balance. What a strange and frightening concept.
“Potential.” Also not at all the same as “actual.”
What’s a small market team to do? Kidnapping KD probably isn’t an option. And even then, half the fan base would be focused on the “yeah, but he’s a criminal” part instead of the team winning.
SHUT UP, Kevin! You’ll get to eat when you score 35 pts, don’t make me tell you again!!!
Kings win!!! Kings win!!! Kings WIN!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with all of this. I got on a 2-3 week high horse a few months back when the coaching search was going on and I’ll revisit that now.
This team, this franchise is in desperate need of consistency. And yes, even if that consistency doesn’t yield results in the W column. We have a competent GM in McNair. We have a competent coach in Brown and we have what might be the first competent roster construction in 16 years. This needs to be built off of. Not scraped or abandoned.
In my opinion, Brown and McNair should have matching contracts. If I were Vivek I would extend McNair to match with Brown and make a verbal commitment to all of sacramento –
“Win or lose, I’m 100% committed to these two guys for the duration of their contracts. We are going to trust these guys and I want to empower them to turn this around. If this approach fails then we’ll make adjustments and try something different 4 years from now but some consistency with these extremely qualified and experienced men is exactly what this franchise needs to put our trust and full support behind. There will be zero conversation or even contemplation about moving in a new direction while these two men fulfill their current contracts. Fuck your speculation to the contrary. Thank you, Vivek”
This month? I doubt it. But if the team does well and looks like a lock for the playoffs, by the ASB I could see it. Which brings up another question: What if that’s too late? By then, McNair might be happy to be a FA himself and see what is out there.
I think the smartest thing to do would be extend McNair a year beyond this season now, and then re extend him if the good vibes remain present come the ASB 2024.
What I would not do is play hardball on principle with McNair. That seems ill advised under the circumstances where you’re still generally seen as a bad place to ply your trade (for both coaches and GMs). The best way to show stability is to be stable and not just change someone out because fans make intellectual criticisms. The fans, no matter how smart they are, can never be trusted to run the organization properly. Fans are simply ill equipped to do so.
Vivek Ranadive is an absolute shitty owner for 2 reasons. One, he trusts the wrong people for the wrong reasons. Two, he listens to fans criticisms. IMO, he’s fixed #1. But #2…. he still is very guilty of and because of issue #1 he’s afraid to show faith because the path hasn’t been all rosy and pretty and simple. Vivek Ranadive has yet to learn how to listen to fans but at the same time ignore them.
Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe Ranadive can play hardball with McNair but I wouldn’t bet that it works in the Kings favor.
I think we will know what this team is by the end of December, which is round 35 games in. That may be the first real time to decide on Monte’s extension
I have had similar thoughts too. Like, I wonder if the Kings already made a low offer, and McNair said “no, thanks.” Making the play in this year followed by losing McNair and Wilcox over botched negotiations (and then Sabonis and Brown) would be the most Kangz scenario.
He will most likely not be extended this offseason. The time to do that was after the season ended or after the seemingly successful offseason moves. To do it now would be out of left field, but maybe it happens if there were some extensive negotiations happening behind the scenes.
It will happen mid-season if the Kings are winning. If the Kings are losing, it will not happen and we will get a new GM. Then good luck, Mike Brown.
I do not think it’s smart to unintentionally incentivize McNair to make the playoffs at all costs if that means he trades what little youth/prospects and picks we have for win-now players. RikSmits made the great point that Monte didn’t really do much his first year and a half when he had time on his contract. That was a fail IMO in retrospect, and I think Vivek needs to let him know that “maintaining flexibility” is not an excuse for an over-abundance of caution.
Before, I said I’d reluctantly extend him through the 2024-25 season end. I’m not sure how long Brown’s contract goes, but I’d probably just extend him through the end of Brown’s contract. If they fail, they can both be fired with one year left on their deals when they are not offered an extension. Then, hire the GM and the coach at the same time as has not been done in a while here. This is mostly about giving Brown a chance. If Monte is fired in the middle or at the end of the 22-23 season, Brown is probably doomed unless he can find a way to win a ton of games. The new GM will want to pick his coach.
Hot Take: McNair is a good GM and has made the roster better than the one he inherited with patient, thoughtful, and competent moves that could not be said of his predecessor.
I think you are right. No GM makes all the right moves, but Monte has been a net positive, which really can’t be said since Petrie circa 2010
That is setting a really low bar, but more importantly, it is the wrong standard.
The question is how good he’s been relative to all other current NBA GM’s. The fact that we’re talking about this team fighting for a play-in spot in a season where quite a few Western teams will be tanking for a generational talent, is quite telling.
It seems to me that at best, Monte is building a 6th seed with a bunch of first round exits. At worst, we’ll have a brief (play-in/play-off) burst of about two years before being overtaken by the teams that are now tanking.
I hope I am wrong.
If this were almost any other team, having GM McNair earn his extension by producing wins would be a reasonable goal.
Unfortunately, and this is just my opinion, the land of reasonable has no ships named Sacramento Kings in its harbor.
GM D’Alessandro, was first with Owner Ranadive until the GM Divac era took charge and then Monte McNair. Yes, that was 3 seasons ago – and the excuses of Vlade’s Mess and COVID NBA are valid,
But mostly, we look to the largest stain that marks all dealings with Sacramento- the owner and his circle – King Ranadive, Queen Matina and Prince Aneel.
They were able to hire GM McNair who has had to turn much of the owner’s Kings court into a more workable, typical franchise front office. One that other GMs and agents and the League can recognize as a reasonable front office. And for the first time since … a while. That’s not an overnight thing when Vivek still reigns. (and no Chris Mullin, Vlade Divac, Joe Dumars whispering in ears)
IMO, GM McNair and his team have forwarded this backward ownership into a better place. To not renew his contract would likely be disastrous. You still have Vivek & Co. in charge of hiring the replacement GM. /shudder. And then there is lack of stability that has been one of ugly hallmarks of the Ranadive ownership.
Unless this season is an abject failure from the start, just give the guy an extension. Let him run the franchise with his hired coach, Mike Brown.
Can anyone expect that a new GM with a coach he didn’t hire and Viv/Mat/Ane still in place will make a difference- in a year? two? three? (and no COVID). please -no.
Extend him at the start of the season with enough time to look at trades in mid-December, or a month before trade deadline or some such thing and for three more seasons. Provide stability, continuity and support. Not worry, not threats, not indecision.
If that’s the point of departure, there’s no use arguing moves in accordance with logic.
As I explain, it’s not an even playing field. And if you wish to presume that we judge the Sacramento Kings relative to an NBA standard franchise, then likewise, there is no use arguing in accordance with logic.
I share your frustration.
Comparing him to his predecessor lol.
Hopefully the Kings start the season strong, perform at or above expectations, and make it a simple decision to extend McNair in the middle of the year (GM extensions don’t have the same limitations as player extensions and can be done at any time).
Wouldn’t how they actually finish determine the simple decision of whether to extend him? What point is there in extending mid season and not waiting to see how the team finishes the whole season.
The roster configuration much of last year was a mess. If he had several options a few years ago, he would probably have passed on the Kangz for a better and safer job. Following a good off-season, the demand for him to take another GM job this June is still not particularly high. Let some or all of this season play out. That outcome should appropriately determine whether no, a short, or longer contact is offered. He’s an overwhelming favorite to take the extension offered.
The fingerprints of a nuanced GM are there even if there are overarching issues I have with the choices he’s made. The push for being competitive rather quickly I attach more to our owner considering past precedence than actually Monte’s longterm intentions. Or at least a path largely informed by the fact he was on a short deal.
It’s in that context I admit judging his job on a curve. The willpower, safety net to have a larger scope in relation to the franchise doesn’t seem evident anywhere around the Kings. I said I would have traded the whole roster besides Hali and they chose the inverse. They have pushed in poker chips for lower seed aspirations and I can accept it even if I think it was a mistake. But to the extent that he has saved face and made well from that path I think is equally worth noting.
If immediate impact star was necessary Domas was a good target to circle both in playing style and in retention eligibility. A decision that post this summers expenses for similar tier players looks all the more wise. Margin deals even from ones that have broken down at least shows he’s always active. The Hield Kuzma deal and the first Donte deal would have both been exceptional wins with almost no leverage. Similar diligence appears in garnering seconds and seemingly having good scouting deep into the 2nd round (imagine Keon Ellis under the last three GM’s coming into the door). The draft has been safe but he’s been proven right more than not. Add that with clean books relative safety with assets (a huge factor considering the current trend), the owners playoff first expectations and I think he’s threaded a narrow needle hole on more than one occasion.
I get going into the season without an extension, and I also don’t like settling when theres abstract alternatives I think maybe make more sense. That said I think he’s clearly the most competent GM we’ve had in a decade and over Vivek’s tenure. And when the owner seems to have an obsession with ex athletes based on repport, overruling managers stature and or hiring with no interview process I may suggests take the bird in the hand. Monte seems to extract a logic to choices even if he’s placating Vivek’s rashness. Decisions collectively that make us look like a comparable NBA franchise for the first time in a very long time. When the alternative is the Dumars type id be careful to let that seat become available again considering who might be making the decision.
A very logical response to what seems to be an overly emotional question in this forum.
Well said all the way around.
The K. Ellis point is one I find very interesting considering the backlash. We got our 2nd round target for half the price by trading the pick and waiting. Definitely a gamble but one that I’m fine with considering how few diamonds are actually found in 2nd round rough. For an argument, its pretty much a non-starter.
I also don’t trust the organization to hire a better alternative. I had another hundred words typed up but the point is a pretty simple one to make. Monte would likely have another GM job within the year if the Kings were to fire him. Because he’s actually competent in the role.
And I don’t really see a whole lot of GM prospects out there that would be able to toe the line between actual NBA respectability and whatever nonsense the owner is trying to push on the team every chance he gets as well as Monte has.
It doesn’t make much sense to me that he hasn’t been extended when the coach he hired has a 4 yr. deal. Vivek does stupid shit with his basketball team. How fun is it going to be to fire Monte, hire a new GM next year and then get to pay Walton AND Brown for not being here anymore? And continue losing our asses while every player wonders why the hell they agreed to play here. I’d much rather see what Monte can do with his coach and his players over the next 4.
FWIW, this is Walton’s last year of getting paid.
Thankfully. Thanks for the good news!
No rush , wait and see if team actually improves enough to at least make play-in .
No rush. He’s not exceptional at his job and he’s an overwhelming favorite to accept an offer to him this summer.
Related question: Will the playoff drought get an extension?
I would love the Kings to extend Monte to coincide Brown’s contract regardless of their record this upcoming season. I think he’s done enough to reshape the roster and would like him to continue to do so.
If they do not extend Monte and would let him walk next year, I believe Wes Wilcox would be the new GM thus promoting “continuity”.
Let’s see, they haven’t gone into rebuilding mode and they’ve openly stated they are trying to win now and they only won 30 games. In addition they are projected to win 33 games this year. IDK, but something better happen real soon because there’s nothing as of today that comes close to justifying an extension.
Has he earned an extension as of 9/12/22? No.
Would I like to see him extended? If the team shows any level of upward movement, yes.
While it has taken too long to get to even this point, where we are basically hoping that the team ascends to mediocre, the roster did recently add its best talent since Cousins (Sabonis). And Sabs may be the better/easier piece to build around/with. Couple that with the hiring of Mike Brown, and there are the makings of some organizational synergy.
Yes, it could all fail spectacularly, but if there is any positive momentum this season, I would extend McNair to match the run of Brown’s contract.
There was something to be said for extending him to match Mike Brown’s term right away as to give him the full offseason reigns without the “lame duck” badge hanging over him.
However there’s not a lot of sense doing it right now since the season is so close and they’ll have a pretty good sample size on what a Monte created team looks like very soon.
Thankfully, him not getting extended didn’t seem to effect how he ran the offseason and they made perfectly logical moves to go along with the trajectory that came with the Sabonis trade (surround Fox and Sabonis with young, semi established shooters on decent contracts that still upside still in their careers). If they are playing well in to January, extend the guy.
“Monte, I’m moving to Europe after buying Inter Milan. What do you think?”
Are we assuming he WANTS to sign an extension?
Prediction: Kings start OK and with a small sample size they extend Monty, then the rest of the season they suck as always but they run everything back again anyway.