Sacramento Kings Vice President of Basketball Operations Scott Perry joined Adrian Wojnarowki on The Vertical podcast in an episode released Friday. The show was recorded in LA, suggesting Perry probably attended the Roc Nation workout with Vlade Divac. In the show, Perry talks about how he transitioned to the Kings, but he also talks about working with Kings owner Vivek Ranadivé.

There was one piece in particular that I found interesting. Woj and Perry talk about, even if they don’t address any specifics, the mistakes of Vivek as an owner and how Perry is going to help right the ship in Sacramento.

Personally, I can’t get enough of listening to Perry talk about basketball and building NBA teams. This segment is just a few minutes of the whole podcast, which I highly recommend listening to. But I think Perry nails the issues the Kings have had. The Kings have put together teams on paper, but without much regard with how pieces will interact. DeMarcus Cousins is a good player, George Karl is a good coach, but we know that adding them together didn’t work.

I’m very encouraged by this podcast. Not only does Perry know how an NBA front office should operate, it sounds like he’s being empowered and listened to. Things could always change, of course, but for now at least things are moving in the right direction.

The Kings have a difficult rebuild ahead, but I’m encouraged that they have Perry helping guide the way.