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Is that “the eye test” or the “oy test?”
I mean, he wasn’t really a PG in college. I’m not sure why we would expect him to be one in the NBA. Maaayyybbbeee he has some secondary ballhandler upside as a combo guard, but he’s never showen anything close to the ballhandling or decision-making chops necessary to play PG in the NBA.
Yeah I haven’t understood all of the fuss over DC’s ballhandling/playmaking. He was drafted to be a Josh Hart/Caruso type. Long, athletic, high-motor, defensive-minded guard that makes the hustle plays, moves the ball, and helps on the glass. You’re not supposed to run your offense through him.
He’s an off-ball player. The biggest concern for me has been his 3pt shooting, which must be better for him to be a viable player.
LOL, Jerry on Doug McDermott:
“What are we doing here? The thing that bothered me the most…of all the talk of defense, defense, defense, and now you get an older guy who doesn’t play defense. Is it all bullshit?”
We love you, Jerry!
Vivek must hate JR at this point haha.
I don’t get it either. We can trade a player we aren’t even going to play for one of the best defensive players in the league for a song and dance even a short song and dance. Jared Vanderbilt is only 26 and at 6’8″ has a very high motor and never quites. He can rebound and protect the weakside rim. He is also a good passer. He doesn’t have an offensive game other than dunks but scores a lot on steals and great hustle. A different player than Issac Jones so both bring there skills. Just doesn’t make sense.
Depth Chart
PG: DS – Monk – DC
SG: Zach – Keon – Cliff
SF: DDR – Cliff – Doug
PF: Keegan – IJ – Dario
C: Domas – Maxi – Drew
Should the Kings even pick up DC’s rookie option(5.2 then 7.4) if they can’t trade him before the start of the season?
Why not?
That’s a lot of cash for a guy that looks destined for China
to be fair, I don’t think DC is thaaat bad. We’ll see how he performs in regular season, but even though his summer league as PG was disappointing, I’m not sure he’s out-the-league status yet. Even Davion to me seemed like he was a fringe nba player many times, but he seemed to have found some footing in Miami
Eh, it isn’t that much cash (especially since they’re yearly options) and I think it’s early to make that call. Ultimately, that kind of short-term, low-cost investment on young guys that COULD be useful (which I think DC may be as long as we stop trying to pretend he’s a PG) is one of the 2-3 strategies the Kings should be employing.
I like how Jerry subtly pointed out the Kings have a ton of 6’6″ and under off guards cosplaying as other positions. The reality is the depth chart looks more like this:
PG: Schröder
SG: LaVine, DDR, Monk, Keon, Nique, Carter, McDermott, TD
SF:
PF: Keegan, Jones, Saric
C: Sabonis, Eubanks, Maxi
When you’re right you’re right . Sadly !
The way I see it, we have some flexibility (SG, SF), some redundancy (SG) and at least 2 gaps (???):
PG Schröder, ???, Monk/Ellis, Carter
SG Lavine, DDR, Monk/Ellis, Carter
SF Murray, Lavine, DDR
PF ??? Murray, Jones/Raynaud
C Sabonis, Eubanks/Raynaud
*In theory* Ben Simmons could sort of fill both gaps … if he wants to play basketball.
… and I forgot Clifford!
Roster construction was difficult for Monte to comprehend and it seems as though Perry is following in that path.
It’s all about what Vivek wants at the end of the day. Thats why the same problem persists.
I would bet you that lineup won’t get you 35 wins next year.
This. They’re not making the play-in or winning 40 games with this team.
Based on Kings free agency history, I question anyone that willfully signs with the team (not including players extensions, like rookie scale or what Fomas did recently. Take the money!!!)
I get the Kings overpay, but is it worth the torture?
maybe it’s their last chance at a good contract and they figure they can be traded anyway
Vivek and this FO are going to quickly find out that not even the play-in will be attainable next season.
Nuggets
Wolves
Thunder
Duds
Fakers
Clips
Mavs
Rockegs
Grizz
Spurs
That’s ten teams that are clearly better than the Kings.
Blazers
Jazz
Suns
Pels
I think we’re only clearly better than the Suns.
It could get ugly this season and hopefully it does and by trade deadline our core is dealt.
Landing a top 3 pick in next year‘s loaded draft is crucial.
The Jazz are going to be bad. Pelicans are only good next season if Zion is healthy and plays. But still, that’s bottom of the barrel stuff right there.
If Perry doesn’t do anything to make this team better(McDermott isn’t the God send) then I will not be on King’s Herald next year. It just isn’t worth it. We’ll see. For what it’s worth I care a lot on every person who comments on this page. GO KINGS!
Jack, I think I can speak for many here…don’t let the Kings ineptitude kill your fandom and love of this community. Many of us here are frustrated to no end with the team, but we love this community and banter. TKH is a special place for our little niche enclave. Don’t give up, amigo.
I’ve been apart of this online group since ’08…I think, which spans many rosters, GMs, owners, and even site domains. We are a special group. Keep bringing it.
Rangz, Kangz, disgruntled Fanz. It don’t mean shit cause we are family.
What Adamsite wrote is so true!! I was a Bulls fan in Chicago for thirty years. I used to read Sam Smith on the Bulls religiously. Sam was good. But I found nothing in Chicago to compare with the many knowledgeable fans who comment on TKH. And the humor is better than the best comics!
The only west team we have more talent than are the Suns imo. All these young teams that have been rebuilding/tanking are looking to take the next step. The west is getting a lot more crowded this year and the mediocre vivek kangz are getting squeezed out.
So true. The commenters on TKH are the only thing I like about this franchise anymore.
With you. I would have packed it in years ago if it were not for this community.
OK I’ll hang in there just to see what Perry and company will do this summer and because your comment directly to me was taken the right way has convinced me that family is more important than just one guy who appreciates all those who stick in there. GO KINGS!
the real Larry O’Brien Trophy was the friends we made along the way
Yeah but that’s only one player and we don’t know if he is any good or not. I will be dead and gone if that’s our future.
What are you all thinking about the Blazers (my back-up team when I can’t take the Kings anymore)?
The return of the injured Dame, together with the trade for Jrue, as mentors for Scoot and Shae? The trading down and taking a swing at Yang Hansen, and how he looked in Vegas? The young defensive core of Camara, Avdija and Clingan?
So different from the Kangz approach.
I think there’s a decent chance they finish ahead of us. I think Billups has done a good job getting them to play the right way on both ends of the floor.
I’m rooting for Dario Saric to have a career year.
I’m rooting for him to have somebody, anybody’s career year other than his own.
We did it. We’re elite! ESPN.com Tier 1 worst personnel moves since 2020. ‘Franchise altering terrible trades’. We made #5: having both Fox and Haliburton and losing both within 3 years. ‘Just a couple of years after their best run in decades, the Kings once more possess an ill-fitting roster with no direction, and they’ve gone from two point guards to zero. Meanwhile, Haliburton… .’ You picked Fox/Sabonis over Hali. Then you couldn’t even keep Fox. As they say, ‘terrible.’
Expand it to seven years and drafting Bagley over Luka gets on the radar.
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